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(Media Matters)   "If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it, and I'll tell you what it is. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch." - The Republicans   (mediamatters.org) divider line 864
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2012-03-02 09:27:36 AM
Shaggy_C: If you don't want a religious psyscho boss prying into your personal life, you probably shouldn't get a job with an organization whose entire foundation requires belief in sky-ghost.

The Republicans are pushing to allow ANY employer to limit their employees coverage, not just religious institutions.
 
2012-03-02 09:28:21 AM
Alphax: Lucky LaRue: Alphax: Lucky LaRue: I am not criticizing you for pointing out hypocrisy, Dahnkster, I am criticizing you for being a hypocrite. I hope you are able to see that there is very little difference in publicly spewing hatred like "I hope Andrew Breitbart is sucking a flaming dung-demon cock right now as rodents gnaw his eye sockets and perpetual anal maggots bore into his brain." and Rush's despicable rant.

Yes, there is. If you can't tell the difference, the failure is YOURS.

So, what's the difference, then, Alphax? What makes your hatred a moral imperative yet relegates tea-bagger hatred as evil? Don't get me wrong, I think you both suck; Teahadist and Herbal Teahadist alike. This kind of thought process has no place in public dialogue.

One is deserved, one is not. Did your parents not teach you this?


Did my parents teach me to wish evil on another human being? Or to meet hatred with hatred? No, no they did not.
 
2012-03-02 09:28:24 AM
Shaggy_C: If you don't want a religious psyscho boss prying into your personal life, you probably shouldn't get a job with an organization whose entire foundation requires belief in sky-ghost.

Thankfully, the job creators have created infinite jobs as taxes plummet for them. Also, a chicken in every pot.
 
2012-03-02 09:29:06 AM
FTFA" Limbaugh went on to say that Fluke's testimony was part of a "Democrat plot" to "create a new welfare program and, at the same time, try to cast Republicans in an election year as anti-female.""

i dunno seems like limbaughs doods are doing that pretty well on their own without the help of a democratic conspiracy
 
2012-03-02 09:29:12 AM
MeinRS6: Right now the Dems Repubs are currently convincing their idiotic base that RepubsDems are going to ban contraceptionthe Bible, take away our guns or some such nonsense. If libtards republitards are stupid enough to believe that, then they probably understandably are were stupid enough to vote for one of the worst presidents ever again.

Fixed.
 
2012-03-02 09:29:13 AM
I think Rush and Ann Coulter have a bet as to which one of them can piss off the most women the fastest.
 
2012-03-02 09:32:05 AM
Shaggy_C: If you don't want a religious psyscho boss prying into your personal life, you probably shouldn't get a job with an organization whose entire foundation requires belief in sky-ghost.

Probably just as sensible to have the government mandate that businesses simply can't do that though.
 
2012-03-02 09:32:34 AM
PsyLord: I think Rush and Ann Coulter have a bet as to which one of them can piss off the most women the fastest.

Probably just jealous Santorum is winning.
 
2012-03-02 09:32:50 AM
Philip Francis Queeg: Shaggy_C: If you don't want a religious psyscho boss prying into your personal life, you probably shouldn't get a job with an organization whose entire foundation requires belief in sky-ghost.

The Republicans are pushing to allow ANY employer to limit their employees coverage, not just religious institutions.


I am convinced that Ferris Bueller's Day Off is their favorite movie. Take the Ferrari out for a spin (and then complain about American manufacturing), eat at the best restaurants (and complain about taxpayer waste), go to a Cubs game (talk about stupid), go to museums (and then look blankly at the paintings like the Philistines they are), go to parades and sing about being Thankful in that dirty Nazi language, and then come home, wreck the car, and say "Oh well, guess I'll have to answer for it" knowing full well they'll get off with a slap on the wrist.
 
2012-03-02 09:34:10 AM
PsyLord: I think Rush and Ann Coulter and Daniel Issa and Bob McDonnell and Roy Blunt and William Donahue have a bet as to which one of them can piss off the most women the fastest.

FTFY
 
2012-03-02 09:34:28 AM
Lucky LaRue: Alphax: Lucky LaRue: Alphax: Lucky LaRue: I am not criticizing you for pointing out hypocrisy, Dahnkster, I am criticizing you for being a hypocrite. I hope you are able to see that there is very little difference in publicly spewing hatred like "I hope Andrew Breitbart is sucking a flaming dung-demon cock right now as rodents gnaw his eye sockets and perpetual anal maggots bore into his brain." and Rush's despicable rant.

Yes, there is. If you can't tell the difference, the failure is YOURS.

So, what's the difference, then, Alphax? What makes your hatred a moral imperative yet relegates tea-bagger hatred as evil? Don't get me wrong, I think you both suck; Teahadist and Herbal Teahadist alike. This kind of thought process has no place in public dialogue.

One is deserved, one is not. Did your parents not teach you this?

Did my parents teach me to wish evil on another human being? Or to meet hatred with hatred? No, no they did not.


Their fault, then. But I find your Both Sides Are Bad bullshiat to be very offensive.
 
2012-03-02 09:34:53 AM
Are you surprised? Rush is an asshole who hates women. He's also a troll who makes money off his ranting.
 
2012-03-02 09:35:02 AM
Father_Jack: FTFA" Limbaugh went on to say that Fluke's testimony was part of a "Democrat plot" to "create a new welfare program and, at the same time, try to cast Republicans in an election year as anti-female.""

i dunno seems like limbaughs doods are doing that pretty well on their own without the help of a democratic conspiracy


We don't need Sandra Fluke in order for Republicans to be "cast as anti-female." The Republicans are doing that on their own.
 
2012-03-02 09:36:04 AM
Clearly, this is simply all about Freedom of Religion and a 1st Amendment Issue. This has absolutely nothing to do with the GOP being anti-woman.

Just like the Teabaggers don't hate Obama because he's black. They just hate him because he was born in Africa and forged his birth certificate, went to Harvard under Affirmative Action even though he didn't deserve it on his own merits, because an elitist snob (some could say uppity), met his wife who hates America (don't you think she kinda looks like a gorilla?). Joined a radical black activist Church and became a "community organizer" in Chicago (the South Side, specfiically). Learned and practiced "Chicago Style Politics". Stole the Presidential Election thanks to ACORN committing rampant voter fraud and the Black Panthers intimidating Real Americans from voting. And has since gone on to become the Food Stamp President.

Race has absolutely nothing to do with it. In fact, you're a racist for suggesting that it does.
 
2012-03-02 09:38:57 AM
First things first:

IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY!


There is no second thing.
 
2012-03-02 09:40:34 AM
t0.gstatic.com

Just don't criticize the pizza joint, Limbaugh.
 
2012-03-02 09:41:18 AM
BeesNuts: He doesn't piss me off in the least, fwiw. What pisses me off is the attitude that someone "pissing off the other side" is winning. And even that doesn't bother me all that much compared to the prevalence of that attitude and its permeation of nearly every politically motivated decision by right wingers in this country. Rush is a symptom of something much more destructive that calling some girl a slut. By name. Repeatedly. And not being roundly condemned for it.

/Weren't these the people who complained about how mean Obama was to Hillary, and how mean Biden was to Palin?


What I still want to know: At want point are his words legally actionable?

I took a few business/contract law courses in college. One thing that was mentioned was that for most states calling someone a whore or saying they can't pay their debts were considered easy to prove slander cases.
 
2012-03-02 09:42:30 AM
randomjsa: Hilarious and accurate.

If you want contraceptives, buy them, if you can't afford them because insurance won't cover them or because you don't have the money, don't have sex.

Don't sit around demanding that we subsidize you because you want to have sex but don't want to take responsibility for your own birth control.


You've missed the point that birth controll for women is prescriptive for cycle issues.

And you've missed that educating and providing birth control is cheaper than the cost of pregnancy and birth.

And most of all, don't intentionally go to a college that doesn't offer birth control to students then whine and complain about the fact that the college doesn't offer birth control to students. Don't freely and openly admit that you know full well that the college didn't offer it and act as if they've done you wrong by refusing to give in to your demands. If it was that important to you then you should have gone somewhere else.


You can disagree with the latter point (although the math works) but any reasonable person should expect an insurance company to cover the cost of a pill used to stifle cycle issues to save a possible ovary-ectomy and proven to do such for deades even if that pill is also used for contraception.
 
2012-03-02 09:42:48 AM
He's stretching the analogy a bit, at least in the "Prostitute" example - this latest one is a closer to being accurate. Happy they've switched from Freedom of Religion to it being an attack on Liberty.

Nobody is suggesting that contraception be banned, they're only stating that they shouldn't be forced to pay for it.
 
2012-03-02 09:43:37 AM
Viagra is covered by most insurance companies. That isn't a problem for them, is it?

The most ridiculous thing is that it is covered by Medicaid in North Carolina. Or was a few years ago.

/worked in a pharmacy
 
2012-03-02 09:44:25 AM
I'm more convinced than ever that Rush is a liberal. He and Fred Phelps clearly have secret meetings where they toast each other's rousing success at raking in the cash as they assrape the first ammendment wearing sandpaper condoms. The only difference between Rush and the WBC is the classification each uses: Phelps says he's a 'preacher', and Rush says he's a 'Republican'.

Rush got the attention he was looking for. His rating will spike. His advertisers will be happy.

...and then he'll go home and jerk off to his poster of Nancy Pelosi while rolling around in his bed stuffed with a mountain of Bejamines he's made while inciting hate and devisiveness.

No Reublican in their right mind would risk alienating moderates if they REALLY wanted their party to win. Rush is throwing napalm on the platform.
 
2012-03-02 09:45:30 AM
Rich Cream: First things first:

IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY!

There is no second thing.




lol, I really should read the article first.

/nah, forget it, knee-jerking is my style
 
2012-03-02 09:46:43 AM
Rush just gets more and more desperate with each passing month, doesn't he? Just flailing in an effort to be relevant again. he's the Kim Kardashian of political punditry.

He's like this episode of the Simpsons where Lisa takes on Malibu Stacey:

Doll: Trust in yourself and you can achieve anything!
Lisa: All right. Now all we need is a name.
Bart: How about Blabbermouth, the jerky doll for jerks?
Lisa: How about Minerva, after the Roman goddess of wisdom?
Stacy: Ehh, not enough commercial appeal.
Bart: Wendy Windbag? Ugly Doris? Hortense the mule-faced doll!
Stacy: I think we should name her after Lisa. We'll call her Lisa Lionheart.
Bart: No, Loudmouth Lisa! Stupid Lisa Garbage Face! [no one pays attention] I can't stand this any longer. Somebody please pay attention to me! Hello, pay attention to me! Look at me! I'm Bart, I'm Bart! Look at me, look at me, look at me! [waggles tongue]"


That's all he's doing, "Magic Negro! Women on birth control are sluts! [no one pays attention] I can't stand this any longer. Somebody please pay attention to me! Hello, pay attention to me! Look at me! I'm Rush, I'm Rush! Look at me, look at me, look at me!"
 
2012-03-02 09:46:46 AM
Rodrigo Hernandez: Viagra is covered by most insurance companies. That isn't a problem for them, is it?

The important word being "most" - it's not a government mandate that they cover it. There's a difference you see.
 
2012-03-02 09:47:03 AM
That...won't convince anybody...
 
2012-03-02 09:48:24 AM
i86.photobucket.com
 
2012-03-02 09:49:06 AM
Alphax: Lucky LaRue: Alphax: Lucky LaRue: Alphax: Lucky LaRue: I am not criticizing you for pointing out hypocrisy, Dahnkster, I am criticizing you for being a hypocrite. I hope you are able to see that there is very little difference in publicly spewing hatred like "I hope Andrew Breitbart is sucking a flaming dung-demon cock right now as rodents gnaw his eye sockets and perpetual anal maggots bore into his brain." and Rush's despicable rant.

Yes, there is. If you can't tell the difference, the failure is YOURS.

So, what's the difference, then, Alphax? What makes your hatred a moral imperative yet relegates tea-bagger hatred as evil? Don't get me wrong, I think you both suck; Teahadist and Herbal Teahadist alike. This kind of thought process has no place in public dialogue.

One is deserved, one is not. Did your parents not teach you this?

Did my parents teach me to wish evil on another human being? Or to meet hatred with hatred? No, no they did not.

Their fault, then. But I find your Both Sides Are Bad bullshiat to be very offensive.


If you want to be disingenuous and pretend that political ideology isn't a spectrum and that this is a fight between the far left and the far right, then I would have to disagree with you and argue that both sides are, indeed, bad. That kind of false dichotomy only works in ideological echo-chambers, though.
 
2012-03-02 09:50:06 AM
MeinRS6: And Farklibs are once again tweaked by a guy on the radio whose job is to tweak them. If only they could understand that they are the butt of the joke. Instead of listening to a Media Matters clip, listen to the entire show tomorrow and see how he is laughing at you as your anger builds. The point of the whole bit is 1) point out that people should pay for their own contraception and 2) make libs mad as hell and laugh at them as they fall apart in a wave of political correctness.

A lot of libs think Rush is a politician. He's not.


We're not mad, bro. We're flabbergasted, and slightly amused that he's exposing conservative thought for what it is to independent voters.
 
2012-03-02 09:50:08 AM
CanisNoir: Nobody is suggesting that contraception be banned, they're only stating that they shouldn't be forced to pay for it.

Which is stupid, health insurance covers all sorts of shiats for people who have made bad choices or choices you don't agree with. That's how insurance works. You pay to cover the choice someone else has made that you don't agree with, and someone else pays to cover your choice that they may not agree with.
 
2012-03-02 09:50:22 AM
CanisNoir: .

Nobody is suggesting that contraception be banned, they're only stating that they shouldn't be forced to pay for it.


desmogblog.com
 
2012-03-02 09:52:06 AM
CanisNoir: He's stretching the analogy a bit, at least in the "Prostitute" example - this latest one is a closer to being accurate. Happy they've switched from Freedom of Religion to it being an attack on Liberty.

Nobody is suggesting that contraception be banned, they're only stating that they shouldn't be forced to pay for it.


Guess what, ace? They don't have to pay for it. The insurance company does. Not the church, not the government. Where is the insurance company outrage? WHAR WHAR? Probably someone did the math and realized it was cheaper to cover BC than have a bunch of abortions they have to cover if they cover it. Also, BC has other health benefits.
 
2012-03-02 09:52:22 AM
Tommy Moo: We're not mad, bro. We're flabbergasted, and slightly amused that he's exposing conservative thought for what it is to independent voters.

Conservatives have this thing where they confuse mockery for anger.

I think it's because they only have ever experienced three emotions: anger, hungry, and sleepy.

Like my son when he was 3 months old.
 
2012-03-02 09:54:09 AM
People are dipshiats

/news at 11
 
2012-03-02 09:55:09 AM
MeinRS6:
A lot of libs think Rush is a politician. He's not.


You're right. He just sets the message and agenda for the politicians to follow. That's why he gets the keynote speaker position at CPAC ahead of the politicians. He's the general, the politicians are the dutiful foot soldiers.
 
2012-03-02 09:55:40 AM
CanisNoir: Nobody is suggesting that contraception be banned

That's kind of exactly what they're doing.
 
Bf+
2012-03-02 09:56:37 AM
violentsalvation: Thank you for attributing Rush Limbaugh's statement to all Republicans.


Because so many have come out to denounce his statements, right?
It's not like Rush Limbaugh is the head of the republican party, right?
 
2012-03-02 09:56:46 AM
Conservatives want to have it both ways with Rush, they say he not a politician when he says something like this but if a high ranking GOP politician says he is 'just an entertainer' he apologizes and grovels to him withing 24 hours. Rush has the power of the head of the Republican political party. Who in the GOP would defy his wishes?

Without a doubt Rush is a leader of the GOP, if not the most powerful leader within the party. As further evidence you will not even see one of the GOP presidential candidates even say something very reasonable like: "We don't need to sink to personal name-calling to make our case on this overreaching government policy." concerning Rush.

That being said, Rush was unfairly quoted out of context, you libs are twisting Rush's words by quoting them verbatim and recording him speaking.... dirty lib tricks. The context is important. As soon and Rush let's me know what I'm supposed to think about the context I will bury you libs with the mighty fist of Rush's logic. Stupid libs.
 
2012-03-02 09:57:16 AM
CanisNoir: Nobody is suggesting that contraception be banned, they're only stating that they shouldn't be forced to pay for it.

That is one way to frame the debate. Another would be to ask, when weighing the cost out of your pocket for contraception versus the cost out of your pocket for (as an example) publicly educating a child that would have otherwise not been added to our society, what value do you place on the moral consideration and is it worth it?
 
2012-03-02 09:57:23 AM
CanisNoir: He's stretching the analogy a bit, at least in the "Prostitute" example - this latest one is a closer to being accurate. Happy they've switched from Freedom of Religion to it being an attack on Liberty.

Nobody is suggesting that contraception be banned, they're only stating that they shouldn't be forced to pay for it.


And of course, you DO understand that the pill has medical uses beyond simple contraception right? I mean, otherwise you and your kind would just look like a bunch of ignorant, misogynistic assholes.
 
2012-03-02 09:58:22 AM
The Homer Tax: I think it's because they only have ever experienced three emotions: anger, hungry, and sleepy.

Like my son when he was 3 months old.


That just sounded bad. But I get what you're going for.
 
2012-03-02 10:00:44 AM
CanisNoir: Nobody is suggesting that contraception be banned, they're only stating that they shouldn't be forced to pay for it.

""One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country. It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be."

-- Rick Santorum
 
2012-03-02 10:01:15 AM
although it sounds outrageous. is he wrong? why?
 
2012-03-02 10:01:42 AM
Bf+: violentsalvation: Thank you for attributing Rush Limbaugh's statement to all Republicans.


Because so many have come out to denounce his statements, right?
It's not like Rush Limbaugh is the head of the republican party, right?


I've seen/heard more Muslims and Muslim leaders denounce terrorism than a Republican leader denounce even one of Rush's most ignorant/racist/sexist statements.

So what does that say about Republicans and Rush's power?
 
2012-03-02 10:04:13 AM
lazyguineapig33: although it sounds outrageous. is he wrong? why?

Because that means by extension your mom would probably be a slut too. Is that wrong? why?
 
2012-03-02 10:04:42 AM
CanisNoir: Nobody is suggesting that contraception be banned, they're only stating that they shouldn't be forced to pay for it.

Maybe next we can get insurance companies to stop paying for statins, metformin, and insulin since obesity is a personal choice. What about eliminating payment for NSAIDS, narcotics, and hip replacements for people who made the "lifestyle choice" of being too overactive? How about we eliminate payment for all pulmonary and cardiac care for all smokers? What about hepatic care for alcoholics? There is nothing ethical or right about starting up the slippery slope of morality based healthcare.
 
2012-03-02 10:08:13 AM
Bender The Offender: CanisNoir: Nobody is suggesting that contraception be banned, they're only stating that they shouldn't be forced to pay for it.

Maybe next we can get insurance companies to stop paying for statins, metformin, and insulin since obesity is a personal choice. What about eliminating payment for NSAIDS, narcotics, and hip replacements for people who made the "lifestyle choice" of being too overactive? How about we eliminate payment for all pulmonary and cardiac care for all smokers? What about hepatic care for alcoholics? There is nothing ethical or right about starting up the slippery slope of morality based healthcare.


Let he who is sinless among you take the first prescription medication.
 
2012-03-02 10:08:55 AM
Rodrigo Hernandez: Viagra is covered by most insurance companies. That isn't a problem for them, is it?



Viagra is not a contraceptive.
Or did you not know that?
 
2012-03-02 10:09:37 AM
Shaggy_C: If you don't want a religious psyscho boss prying into your personal life, you probably shouldn't get a job with an organization whose entire foundation requires belief in sky-ghost.

It's called employment, not slavery.
 
2012-03-02 10:10:30 AM
HotWingConspiracy: CanisNoir: Nobody is suggesting that contraception be banned

That's kind of exactly what they're doing.


Are you saying that every insurance plan has always covered contraceptives?
I didn't know that.
 
2012-03-02 10:12:05 AM
CanisNoir:
Nobody is suggesting that contraception be banned, they're only stating that they shouldn't be forced to pay for it.


If we are going to slowdown the rise or reduce the cost of healthcare in this country we need to do things that are smart, like pay for contraception.

I don't want to pay for a much more expensive unplanned pregnancy/child. Not only is the cost of a pregnancy and any complications many times more than the cost of contraception for every woman (that is why many health insurance companies give very cheap or free contraception already). So you are not really "PAYING" more for contraception, you are paying less for health insurance and in our taxes.

That is not even counting the cost of welfare, jail, and other problems that unplanned children have a higher rate of costing the taxpayer in later life.

I don't want to pay for ignorant people's mistakes that literally cost us taxpayers billions... the best way that I know to deal with that problem is to educate people and make contraception easily available as possible. You can't get easier than free, except paying people not ready to have a child to take contraception, which frankly probably would save us even more money.
 
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