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2012-03-01 09:34:57 AM
fta: Pope John Paul II High School

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/Oblig and hot like a fiery furnace.
 
2012-03-01 09:37:10 AM
Suburban douchebag husband of the HS assistant principal/AD versus a soon-to-be-retiring middle school health teacher. I'm guessing that the health teacher is gladly done with education and has had quite enough of the guy who calls himself "Dewayne" and cracked. "Dewayne" is probably some ex-football star who considers himself God's gift and ruler of the little leagues because of his athletic ties, and lives out his glory through his kids, who probably will end up moving to NYC and becoming liberal hipsters because of him.
 
2012-03-01 10:47:25 AM
Exactly why I have started to hate youth sports after many years of coaching little league football. Nothing as dramatic as what is described in the article, but just a constant series of complaints from certain parents about their "superstar" snowflakes and regularly seeing coaches going off on referees as if a call just cost them the Super Bowl.
 
2012-03-01 11:50:55 AM
Fighting at a kids sports game is one of the biggest proofs that you have failed as a human being.
 
2012-03-01 12:19:43 PM

Aarontology: Fighting at a kids sports game is one of the biggest proofs that you have failed as a human being.


Definitely. And don't think this kind of stuff doesn't leave a lasting impression on the kids. I still remember several parental fights at my midget football games 20 years ago.
 
2012-03-01 01:24:31 PM

themeaningoflifeisnot: Exactly why I have started to hate youth sports after many years of coaching little league football. Nothing as dramatic as what is described in the article, but just a constant series of complaints from certain parents about their "superstar" snowflakes and regularly seeing coaches going off on referees as if a call just cost them the Super Bowl.


I'm glad I am not the only one. I get the same shiat for youth swimming. Some of these parents are just bonkers, like they think their kids belong in the Olympic Trials or something (spoiler alert: they don't).
 
2012-03-01 01:24:33 PM

Actual Farking: Aarontology: Fighting at a kids sports game is one of the biggest proofs that you have failed as a human being.

Definitely. And don't think this kind of stuff doesn't leave a lasting impression on the kids. I still remember several parental fights at my midget football games 20 years ago.


Just a guess here, but I'd say 1/5 of the basketball games I was the scorekeeper for featured one parent verbally threatening another. 1/10 ended with the police being called. Select teams and private leagues too. People are nuts.
 
2012-03-01 01:32:32 PM
When I was in rec league in about 5th grade, my dad (who was our coach) almost got into a fight with a ref.

To be fair, my dad did ride the refs pretty hard for grade school basketball. He wasn't wrong, though. For example, it's called the 3 second rule (or was it 5 in kids' league). Not the "count to about 4 and then tell the player to get out of the paint or you're going to call something" rule.

Anyway, after a game, the ref comes storming up to my dad and gets in his face. My dad just wanted to get out of there, and the ref asked him if he wanted to "take it outside." Pretty sure he got fired.

/csb.
 
2012-03-01 01:35:18 PM

Dafatone: Pretty sure he got fired.


Doubt it. The list of guys willing to get paid minimum wage to referee 5th grade rec ball is pretty small.
 
2012-03-01 01:44:31 PM

Actual Farking: Aarontology: Fighting at a kids sports game is one of the biggest proofs that you have failed as a human being.

Definitely. And don't think this kind of stuff doesn't leave a lasting impression on the kids. I still remember several parental fights at my midget football games 20 years ago.


I congratulate you on beating the odds and playing sports like a regular kid.
 
2012-03-01 01:56:22 PM
There was a dad that used to get tossed from my youth summer league basketball games. It is awsome think back to the 15 year old referee giving him the heave-ho, "Mr. Smith please leave the side line. And tell John I will call him later." Later in life we found out the guy was an alcoholic coke head. That made sense.
 
2012-03-01 02:00:58 PM

Treygreen13: People are nuts.


They really are, but for some reason, I don't ever remember any issues at my Little League games, even though a lot of the same kids were in both leagues. Maybe basketball and football being contact sports contributes to the overall parental retardation level.
 
2012-03-01 02:13:26 PM

Actual Farking: Treygreen13: People are nuts.

They really are, but for some reason, I don't ever remember any issues at my Little League games, even though a lot of the same kids were in both leagues. Maybe basketball and football being contact sports contributes to the overall parental retardation level.


I don't recall any real issues with parents at Little League unless the kid wasn't playing. Or if a player made the "All-Star" team in spite of being terrible because he was a coach's son. Now, when I got up to kid pitch, that was when things tended to get heated at games. That first year nobody has any control, so kids are getting beaned and umps aren't calling a fair strike zone because if they did everyone would walk all game.
 
2012-03-01 02:20:00 PM

Actual Farking: They really are, but for some reason, I don't ever remember any issues at my Little League games, even though a lot of the same kids were in both leagues. Maybe basketball and football being contact sports contributes to the overall parental retardation level.


I used to umpire little league games and it wasn't too bad. At that level the kids fail a lot more than they succeed so I think it calms the parents down, if you can't deal with your snowflake striking out you're going to flip out all the time.
 
2012-03-01 03:27:08 PM
CSB, time..and I swear to it's veracity.

My old man was an undercover cop in the 70s. Picture a Serpico type look. I was the youngest of three kids. My middle brother was in a little league with the most typical of these type of douche bag coaches as his coach. All of the parents disliked him but he was kind of aggressive and I think made a lot of them nervous in regards to confronting him. Most of the kids were brought by moms anyway. My dad didn't make too many games due to his work, and the ones he did make I think most people thought him a drug addled hippie. Hair to his ass, wild looking peasant type shirts,etc.

My middle brother has a lot of my father's personality. One game that my dad happened to be at my brother made an error (he was probably 11 so I'd be 7) and the coach started ripping into him in the dugout. And this is not kindly correction, this is 'what are you stupid?' type things. My brother starts to leave the dugout and my mom is hollering out 'Christopher get out of that dugout and off the field' He begins to walk out of the dugout but the coach blocks his way to exit the field via fence opening. My dad gets up and walks to a fence on the third base line and tells my brother to come to him.

My bro takes off towards my dad and for some reason the coach gives chase. From the dugout on first base line, across the pitchers mound, across third base line where he vaults onto a 4' chain link fence and my dad hoists him over. As my dad drops my brother to the ground the coach wheels up to the fence and begins to vault it. He had already bore down on my brother in the dugout and said something like 'can it, lady!' to my mom when she asked him to leave the dug out.

As the coach hits the top of the fence and gets one leg over my dad hits him in the temple with a closed palm heel strike. He goes off the fence, hard on his back and goes 'OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFF' as he hits the ground and lays there. The crowd, largely women bringing their kids erupts in cheers. My brother never came back to the team and nothing ever happened in regards to my dad.

We retell that story now, my dad nearing 60, and two things always happen. We laugh like maniacs now, and I think "I still would not want to fark around with my dad'.

I know..probably not a CSB..but I like it.
 
2012-03-01 03:27:51 PM

beantowndog: Actual Farking: They really are, but for some reason, I don't ever remember any issues at my Little League games, even though a lot of the same kids were in both leagues. Maybe basketball and football being contact sports contributes to the overall parental retardation level.

I used to umpire little league games and it wasn't too bad. At that level the kids fail a lot more than they succeed so I think it calms the parents down, if you can't deal with your snowflake striking out you're going to flip out all the time.


That's a good point. Kids largely suck at baseball until at least teener league, but football, 10-12 year olds can definitely play proper smashmouth, I formation, running football.
 
2012-03-01 03:30:05 PM
We retell that story now, my dad nearing 6070, and two things always happen. We laugh like maniacs now, and I think "I still would not want to fark around with my dad'.

FTFM
 
2012-03-01 04:05:38 PM
I had coached youth football and baseball from 1999 until 2010. Also umpired baseball at the 10,11,12 year old "travel team" level. A few things I have observed to be gospel truths.

Former professional athletes are THE biggest jerks to coaches and referees.

Football parents cannot help themselves. They may be church-going, bake sale, PTA people who volunteer at the homeless shelter and visit with the elderly in nursing homes....during the week. But on Saturday afternoon, when the snowflake puts the pads on, they become raging lunatics who would embarass Charles Manson with their vulgarity and unruly behavior.

CSB to validate those assertions.
I had to seperate and eject a former major league baseball player and a well known local police Lieutenant from a football game involving their 10 year old kids. The two "adults" began by lobbing water bottles across the field at each other. Then the verbal taunts. Then the referee warns me and the other coach that we'd better do something to get these two idiots under control. I approach my idiot and tell him to leave the sidelines. The other coach approaches his idiot and I assume tells him the same thing. The two idiots then charge each other at midfield and start chest bumping and shoving each other. The other coach and I charge out there, split them up and physically escort both of them to the parking lot. All of this while approximately 36 kids are standing around watching this rather than playing football. (2 of the kids were probably especially mortified)

Have many other stories but I really should get back to work.
 
2012-03-01 04:10:19 PM

Udontknowme: Have many other stories but I really should get back to work.


I had the oposite experience with proathletes (baseball, basketball). They were usually reserved and offered a lot of help after games (to the coaches, players, and refs)
 
2012-03-01 04:19:31 PM

Gunny Highway: Udontknowme: Have many other stories but I really should get back to work.

I had the oposite experience with proathletes (baseball, basketball). They were usually reserved and offered a lot of help after games (to the coaches, players, and refs)


I would agree with you about the pros who actually got involved and helped coach. They were great. It was the guys who didn't have time for that stuff and just ranted and raved from the sidelines at practice and games who were the problem. Baseball guys were the worst. Never really dealt with hoops guys( that I knew of anyway.)
 
2012-03-01 04:25:50 PM

Udontknowme: Gunny Highway: Udontknowme: Have many other stories but I really should get back to work.

I had the oposite experience with proathletes (baseball, basketball). They were usually reserved and offered a lot of help after games (to the coaches, players, and refs)

I would agree with you about the pros who actually got involved and helped coach. They were great. It was the guys who didn't have time for that stuff and just ranted and raved from the sidelines at practice and games who were the problem. Baseball guys were the worst. Never really dealt with hoops guys( that I knew of anyway.)


That makes sense.
 
2012-03-01 05:38:49 PM
PEE WEE BASKETBALL IS SERIOUS BASKETBALL!
 
2012-03-01 08:19:56 PM

Udontknowme: Baseball guys were the worst.


In my neck of the woods, it's common knowledge that the biggest asshole of all Little League coaches is, in fact, Greg Gagne, shortstop of the two Twins World Series teams.
 
2012-03-01 08:22:40 PM
when i was in second grade, my basketball coach got kicked out of the league for assaulting a referee

/my little league coach also got kicked out of the league that year.
 
2012-03-01 08:34:55 PM
When I was 16 or 17, I was reffing a soccer tournament in my hometown. I never had any problems from players, parents or coaches because I let the kids play, always explained my calls, and never power tripped. I was the ref everyone wanted to have because they knew they'd get a well called game.

So the first game of the day was a couple of teams from out of town. It was a good game, except for this one woman who would not shut up. Halfway through the game, I asked her son's coach, politely and calmly, to get her to stop. He apologized and said he would.

About 10 minutes later her son pushed someone in a battle for the ball. Unfortunately it was in the 18 yard box, which required a penalty shot.

This woman flips out! I ignored her for the first few minutes after, until she swore at me. I tolerate almost anyting, but swearing a youth soccer game, it really grinds my gears.

So I yelled at her and kicked her out of the park. She picks up her lawn chair, yells at me, and throws it and says, GOOD!!! WHILE I"M LEAVING YOU CAN KISS THIS!!!! And slapped her ass.

At this point, I'm in front of their team bench. Upon hearing this, I smirk, and say, quietly, but loud enough,that her team could hear it, that her ass was quite large and I'd probably get lost in all the fat.

I really heard swear words after that. Her husband followed me around for like an hour after the game throwing rocks at me trying to pick a fight. Her son apologized for parents behaviour.

/cool story, bro
 
2012-03-01 08:49:50 PM

themeaningoflifeisnot: Exactly why I have started to hate youth sports after many years of coaching little league football. Nothing as dramatic as what is described in the article, but just a constant series of complaints from certain parents about their "superstar" snowflakes and regularly seeing coaches going off on referees as if a call just cost them the Super Bowl.


totally agree. youth sports would be so much better off if parents were not allowed to watch the games in the facility. just the kids, maybe 2 coaches max for both teams, and the refs. just because you pay the fees, doesn't give you the right to be an obnoxious, ignorant ass
 
2012-03-01 11:22:13 PM
Parents were worse than coaches 99 percent of the time.

/Former little league umpire
 
2012-03-02 12:51:00 AM
I got into a fight with a dad at one of my (then) step-kid's little league games.

What're you looking at? You want some?
 
2012-03-02 12:55:03 AM

Pray 4 Mojo: I got into a fight with a dad at one of my (then) step-kid's little league games.

What're you looking at? You want some?


Good job setting an example for the kids
 
2012-03-02 01:03:11 AM

UncleStumpy: Pray 4 Mojo: I got into a fight with a dad at one of my (then) step-kid's little league games.

What're you looking at? You want some?

Good job setting an example for the kids


Thanks!
 
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