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2012-03-01 09:41:51 AM
Sorry, but unless they're playing in Israel, a Jewish basketball team is not going to win the state championship.

They're willing to not play because they know they stood no chance of winning.
 
2012-03-01 10:14:43 AM
And yet if this happened in the 1940s when Jewish athletes ruled the hardwood it'd be big news.
 
2012-03-01 10:17:50 AM
I don't ball on shabbos !
 
2012-03-01 10:42:33 AM
LOL religion.
 
2012-03-01 10:46:11 AM

Mugato: I don't ball on shabbos !


Beat me to it. Damn.

Not that I'm a religious guy, but I find it messed up that the league won't reschedule the game.
 
2012-03-01 11:08:37 AM

SchlingFocker: Sorry, but unless they're playing in Israel, a Jewish basketball team is not going to win the state championship.

They're willing to not play because they know they stood no chance of winning.



Hey, Lenny Schwartzman is the Jewish Michael Jordan, also don't forget about Manute Greenburg.
 
2012-03-01 11:22:52 AM

Sybarite: SchlingFocker: Sorry, but unless they're playing in Israel, a Jewish basketball team is not going to win the state championship.

They're willing to not play because they know they stood no chance of winning.


Hey, Lenny Schwartzman is the Jewish Michael Jordan, also don't forget about Manute Greenburg.


www.foxsportsohio.com

Frowning on your shenanigans.
 
2012-03-01 11:27:56 AM

SchlingFocker: Sorry, but unless they're playing in Israel, a Jewish basketball team is not going to win the state championship.

They're willing to not play because they know they stood no chance of winning.


My freshman year, my high school's basketball team had an all Jewish starting line-up and they made it to the state finals and won. This was a suburban Chicago public high school. Their lead player, Jon Scheyer, went on to play for Duke (Duke sucks) and now plays for Maccabee Tel Aviv.
 
2012-03-01 11:44:28 AM
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well....that was easy.
 
2012-03-01 11:46:54 AM

FreakinB: Not that I'm a religious guy, but I find it messed up that the league won't reschedule the game.


Why? There's no need to establish a precedent that they'll reschedule an event based on the religious beliefs of one team.

Everybody knew ahead of time when the games would be played. The fact that this particular team happened to go further than expected doesn't change that.
 
2012-03-01 11:51:39 AM

Yanks_RSJ: FreakinB: Not that I'm a religious guy, but I find it messed up that the league won't reschedule the game.

Why? There's no need to establish a precedent that they'll reschedule an event based on the religious beliefs of one team.

Everybody knew ahead of time when the games would be played. The fact that this particular team happened to go further than expected doesn't change that.


Then why even accept them in the league? Or if you do, at least acknowledge that this is a possibility and have a backup plan. I realize the school probably knew what they were getting into, and it's not like it affects me personally or anything, but I feel like this could have been handled better.
 
2012-03-01 11:55:19 AM
Haha +1 Subby
 
2012-03-01 11:57:18 AM
only impressive if they compete in football instead and win the gold metal.
 
2012-03-01 11:57:50 AM
I can see it now. They live long productive lives. They pass on. Their souls go to heaven and Yahweh is like "dudes... I saw what you did back there with that basketball championship and I was totally like YEEEAAAAH" And then they got to go to super secret heaven which is totally better.
 
2012-03-01 11:58:16 AM
medal dammit
 
2012-03-01 12:02:58 PM

FreakinB: Then why even accept them in the league? Or if you do, at least acknowledge that this is a possibility and have a backup plan. I realize the school probably knew what they were getting into, and it's not like it affects me personally or anything, but I feel like this could have been handled better.


Hey, being committed to your religious traditions and beliefs often requires sacrifice. I can't have a burger and wings on the first Friday night of the NCAA Tournament because of Lent.

I'm sure they'll be rewarded in the afterlife for choosing to sacrifice a basketball game for their God.
 
2012-03-01 12:11:20 PM

Yanks_RSJ: FreakinB: Then why even accept them in the league? Or if you do, at least acknowledge that this is a possibility and have a backup plan. I realize the school probably knew what they were getting into, and it's not like it affects me personally or anything, but I feel like this could have been handled better.

Hey, being committed to your religious traditions and beliefs often requires sacrifice. I can't have a burger and wings on the first Friday night of the NCAA Tournament because of Lent.

I'm sure they'll be rewarded in the afterlife for choosing to sacrifice a basketball game for their God.


Side note: Is it weird that Lent is the one Catholic thing I still do? I go to church only for Christmas and Easter, and that's more out of family tradition than actual religiousness (we have a history of twice-a-yearicism). But when it comes to Lent I'm giving stuff up and not eating meat on Fridays.
 
2012-03-01 12:17:26 PM

FreakinB: Side note: Is it weird that Lent is the one Catholic thing I still do? I go to church only for Christmas and Easter, and that's more out of family tradition than actual religiousness (we have a history of twice-a-yearicism). But when it comes to Lent I'm giving stuff up and not eating meat on Fridays.


I'm the same way, I consider myself a "World Series Catholic" in that I show up for the big stuff but can't be bothered the rest of the year.

I'm quite sure that if there is a hell I'm going straight there, yet here I am acting like the minimal sacrifice on a few Fridays is going to help Him forget that I'm a horrible human being who shows up to midnight mass half in the bag and can't go a day without committing some form of deadly sin.
 
2012-03-01 12:18:59 PM
Move the damn game up a couple hours - sheesh is this really something threatening the sanctity of the damn playoff system?

The newly invited team should decline....
 
2012-03-01 12:38:17 PM
No love for the headline? I thought it was pretty damn funny...

/not subby...
 
2012-03-01 12:41:53 PM
Man, you guys hypocrites.

"What's the big deal about moving the game?" Really? I thought religion was a running FARK joke and it should be obliterated every chance you get.

Playing on the Sabbath will not send them to hell. If they really wanted to play, they'd play. If they really want to be super-devout, then they take a pass. Not that hard.

/BUT, given it's a private-school league, it's worth it to ask for the move. They're usually more flexible than larger public school organizations.

//What would you guys say if all the Christian schools refused to play on a Sunday? Would you support the time change, or tell them to suck it up because the "imaginary sky-wizard" doesn't care?
 
2012-03-01 12:46:26 PM

quoinguy: Man, you guys hypocrites.

"What's the big deal about moving the game?" Really? I thought religion was a running FARK joke and it should be obliterated every chance you get.

...

//What would you guys say if all the Christian schools refused to play on a Sunday? Would you support the time change, or tell them to suck it up because the "imaginary sky-wizard" doesn't care?


You're equating Fark as a whole with individual Farkers.
 
2012-03-01 12:48:08 PM

quoinguy: Man, you guys hypocrites.


The only person bent out of shape over this appears to be you.
 
2012-03-01 01:14:04 PM
Nah, not bent. Just mentioning it.
 
2012-03-01 01:55:32 PM

Yanks_RSJ: FreakinB: Not that I'm a religious guy, but I find it messed up that the league won't reschedule the game.

Why? There's no need to establish a precedent that they'll reschedule an event based on the religious beliefs of one team.

Everybody knew ahead of time when the games would be played. The fact that this particular team happened to go further than expected doesn't change that.


Except they already set a precedent; A girls soccer team from a Mormon school in Dallas (also in TAPS) was allowed to have the "final four" of the soccer championship resceduled

Basically the reason given by the guy who sets the schedule as to why they denied was that some people watching apparently complained later that they had to change their schedule

/moot point anyway, as TAPS is going to change the schedule now (new window)
 
2012-03-01 02:17:12 PM

ATRDCI: moot point anyway, as TAPS is going to change the schedule now (new window)

Though Beren officials had opposed legal action, some players and parents filed suit in U.S. District Court alleging a violation of religious freedoms.


So, if I'm understanding, not rescheduling a basketball game violates your right to freely practice your religion?
 
2012-03-01 02:24:55 PM

Yanks_RSJ: FreakinB: Side note: Is it weird that Lent is the one Catholic thing I still do? I go to church only for Christmas and Easter, and that's more out of family tradition than actual religiousness (we have a history of twice-a-yearicism). But when it comes to Lent I'm giving stuff up and not eating meat on Fridays.

I'm the same way, I consider myself a "World Series Catholic" in that I show up for the big stuff but can't be bothered the rest of the year.


That's far from uncommon. You can call me a World Series Jew, in that I'll fast for Yom Kippur (it's one day of waiting until sundown to eat or drink anything) and that's about it for the whole year. Even my parents don't even bother with it anymore, yet I figure it's a small enough sacrifice, might as well go for it.
 
2012-03-01 03:15:42 PM

idesofmarch: Yanks_RSJ: FreakinB: Side note: Is it weird that Lent is the one Catholic thing I still do? I go to church only for Christmas and Easter, and that's more out of family tradition than actual religiousness (we have a history of twice-a-yearicism). But when it comes to Lent I'm giving stuff up and not eating meat on Fridays.

I'm the same way, I consider myself a "World Series Catholic" in that I show up for the big stuff but can't be bothered the rest of the year.

That's far from uncommon. You can call me a World Series Jew, in that I'll fast for Yom Kippur (it's one day of waiting until sundown to eat or drink anything) and that's about it for the whole year. Even my parents don't even bother with it anymore, yet I figure it's a small enough sacrifice, might as well go for it.


There are more out there like me!

/excited
//newsletter, subscription, etc.
 
2012-03-01 03:33:55 PM

idesofmarch: Yanks_RSJ: FreakinB: Side note: Is it weird that Lent is the one Catholic thing I still do? I go to church only for Christmas and Easter, and that's more out of family tradition than actual religiousness (we have a history of twice-a-yearicism). But when it comes to Lent I'm giving stuff up and not eating meat on Fridays.

I'm the same way, I consider myself a "World Series Catholic" in that I show up for the big stuff but can't be bothered the rest of the year.

That's far from uncommon. You can call me a World Series Jew, in that I'll fast for Yom Kippur (it's one day of waiting until sundown to eat or drink anything) and that's about it for the whole year. Even my parents don't even bother with it anymore, yet I figure it's a small enough sacrifice, might as well go for it.



I guess I'm kind of a "Cactus League Spring Training" Catholic, in that I pay just about as much attention to being Catholic as I do to Cactus League Spring Training.
 
2012-03-01 03:50:39 PM

Yanks_RSJ: FreakinB: Side note: Is it weird that Lent is the one Catholic thing I still do? I go to church only for Christmas and Easter, and that's more out of family tradition than actual religiousness (we have a history of twice-a-yearicism). But when it comes to Lent I'm giving stuff up and not eating meat on Fridays.

I'm the same way, I consider myself a "World Series Catholic" in that I show up for the big stuff but can't be bothered the rest of the year.

I'm quite sure that if there is a hell I'm going straight there, yet here I am acting like the minimal sacrifice on a few Fridays is going to help Him forget that I'm a horrible human being who shows up to midnight mass half in the bag and can't go a day without committing some form of deadly sin.


lol, world series catholic. I'm using that this weekend with my seriously catholic friend.

and +1 headline subby
 
2012-03-01 06:51:48 PM
Court order changes game time so they can play and be Shomer Shabbos:

Link (new window)
 
2012-03-01 10:04:00 PM
Looks like there may be more to this story. According to this article (new window), the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools, wich refused to reschedule the game had recently changed the scheduling of a game for a Seventh Day Adventists school (who also observe a Saturday Sabbath).

/During the `88 Olympics Israel would have won its first medal (in yachting) but one of the heats fell on Yom Kippur.
 
2012-03-02 01:05:51 PM

quoinguy: Man, you guys hypocrites.

"What's the big deal about moving the game?" Really? I thought religion was a running FARK joke and it should be obliterated every chance you get.

Playing on the Sabbath will not send them to hell If they really wanted to play, they'd play. If they really want to be super-devout, then they take a pass. Not that hard.

/BUT, given it's a private-school league, it's worth it to ask for the move. They're usually more flexible than larger public school organizations.

//What would you guys say if all the Christian schools refused to play on a Sunday? Would you support the time change, or tell them to suck it up because the "imaginary sky-wizard" doesn't care?


Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax...

Shomer Shabbos!

maybe someone forgot to tell the kraut in the front office?
 
2012-03-02 03:25:50 PM

jackandwater: quoinguy: Man, you guys hypocrites.

"What's the big deal about moving the game?" Really? I thought religion was a running FARK joke and it should be obliterated every chance you get.

Playing on the Sabbath will not send them to hell If they really wanted to play, they'd play. If they really want to be super-devout, then they take a pass. Not that hard.

/BUT, given it's a private-school league, it's worth it to ask for the move. They're usually more flexible than larger public school organizations.

//What would you guys say if all the Christian schools refused to play on a Sunday? Would you support the time change, or tell them to suck it up because the "imaginary sky-wizard" doesn't care?

Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax...

Shomer Shabbos!

maybe someone forgot to tell the kraut in the front office?



Tradition isn't fact. And besides, I also said it was worth a try to change the time. Glad it worked out for everyone.

/They still weren't going to Hell. Some religious scholars believe adhering to the Sabbath thing is only for Jews in the Holy Land. As a tradition--not fact.
 
2012-03-03 03:31:46 AM

quoinguy: Man, you guys hypocrites.

"What's the big deal about moving the game?" Really? I thought religion was a running FARK joke and it should be obliterated every chance you get.

Playing on the Sabbath will not send them to hell. If they really wanted to play, they'd play. If they really want to be super-devout, then they take a pass. Not that hard.

/BUT, given it's a private-school league, it's worth it to ask for the move. They're usually more flexible than larger public school organizations.

//What would you guys say if all the Christian schools refused to play on a Sunday? Would you support the time change, or tell them to suck it up because the "imaginary sky-wizard" doesn't care?

RTFA they don't play on Sundays, since a lot of the schools in the league are christian schools. Anyway the parents threatened to file a TRO against the league if the game wasn't rescheduled. They won....
Link (new window)
 
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