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2012-03-01 01:36:30 PM
She suggests perhaps a medium-size teen at a computer terminal for not enough exercise, or a thin youth wolfing down lunch on the run for gluttony.

And I suggest giant oinkers with shirts that don't cover their bellies as they lop over their genitalia.

I'll bet these assholes end up killing more kids than NAMBLA. Probably without raping them first but they'll end up being just as dead when they die with that 1200 Calorie Starbuck's frappuccino in their mits.

i164.photobucket.com
 
2012-03-01 01:43:04 PM
Apparently, it's not a small world after all
upload.wikimedia.org

it's a world of laughter, a world or tears
its a world of hopes, its a world of fear

It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small, small world

Bwhahahahahahaha Get that song out of your heads...If you CAN!

(Just the right side)
It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small world after all
It's a small, small world
 
2012-03-01 01:49:42 PM
Am I the only person who doesn't think the complaint was so unreasonable?

FTFA

As Disney and the insurance company respond, Howell would like to see them include people of all body sizes demonstrating bad habits. "We all have them," she said. She suggests perhaps a medium-size teen at a computer terminal for not enough exercise, or a thin youth wolfing down lunch on the run for gluttony.

Reading the article, it did seem a bit insensitive and possibly counterproductive that most if not all of the "bad" characters were fat. The growing trend toward obesity is concerning, but I think a better way to make kids healthier is to encourage everyone to be healthier, rather than singling out and making fun of larger kids. Does mockery really help anyone lead a healthier lifestyle?

For that matter, does ignoring that thinner people can also have unhealthy habits help anyone? Even if you are able to stay relatively thin drinking beer and eating pizza, you should try to exercise regularly and eat a balanced diet.
 
2012-03-01 01:58:29 PM
I've got a soft opening for you



/giggity
 
2012-03-01 01:59:36 PM

lelei: Diogenes: OK. Let's drop the stereotyping and show them the real deal. Kids giving themselves insulin shots. Kids having to get a gastric bypass. Kids needing heart surgery at 16.

I think it wasn't negative enough.


Ugh, the insulin shot remark really irks me. The kids giving themselves shots are the ones with Type 1 Diabetes, not the fatty-induced type 2 that results from diet.

My healthy-weight daughter is type 1 and has to do daily shots, it has nothing to do with weight or diet, it's autoimmune. Kids like her have enough to deal with, without people being led to believe they, or their parents, caused the disease.

The other type 1 kid at her school is skinny as a rail, and does the daily injections too. They really should have named the fatty version of the disease something completely different instead of just branding it as "Type 2." For those who have type 1, its frustrating having to deal with people who think it was caused by too much soda or eating at McDonald's, and my daughter doesn't deserve to be lumped in with the lazy, unhealthy people who typically end up with type 2.


Anyways, the fatties on scooters irk the hell out of me at Disney as well. On trip boards, its common to hear about people being injured or having very close calls due to fatties using the scooters as motorized ramming-rods. They act like the crowds should magically part for them to get through, and the drivers seem to be the most self-centered jerks around. Personally, I've had to push my kids out of the path of motorized psychopaths three times in our two trips down there.


I understand she's your kid so you have to stick up for her.

But, maybe if you kept her away from all the Soda and Twinkies she wouldn't have developed Type 1 Diabetes.

If your kid gets Type 1 Diabetes that young it's just bad parenting IMO.
 
2012-03-01 02:05:19 PM
That it's at Epcot really sucks. You go vacation places like Epcot and Disney for fun and fantasy, pure entertainment and wonder. It's no place for learning important life lessons. If the healthy habit encouraging exhibit was a traveling exhibit that went to schools and such, that would be fine. That's where you send your kids to learn stuff that will help them have better lives. But when you're on a family vacation, you don't want or need anything possibly negative. You aren't paying for a reminder of real issues. Vacation is for exceptions from the real world. You don't go to school. You don't do chores. You don't have to eat your vegetables. It's for rides and games and candy and escaping from all the harsh realities of real life that you can.

It shows how out of touch with a lot of families execs at places like Blue Cross and Disney are. They forget how hard ordinary people work to take their families there. It's not just something to do on the weekend like a trip to the movies or the city park. It's a great big thing they save up for all year or longer or max out the credit cards for and they use the only vacation days they're going to have all year to make the trip. It's the huge thing the kids are worked up for months about and talk about for years afterwards. For lots of families, it's the one and only big fantastic family vacation of the kids' childhoods. Real ordinary families don't want anyone pushing any life improvement ideas on the kids. Just the fun they paid for. If Blue Cross ponied up enough money that they could make Epcot tickets free if you went through the health exhibit first, that'd be okay. But it's not adding value to the tickets parents are paying for the way it is now.
 
2012-03-01 02:19:08 PM

redstarr01: You go vacation places like Epcot and Disney for fun and fantasy, pure entertainment and wonder. It's no place for learning important life lessons.

.

You just made Walt Disney's corpse roll over. You do know what that was supposed to be, right?
 
2012-03-01 02:21:13 PM

Ivnabru:

I understand she's your kid so you have to stick up for her.

But, maybe if you kept her away from all the Soda and Twinkies she wouldn't have developed Type 1 Diabetes.

If your kid gets Type 1 Diabetes that young it's just bad parenting IMO.


You are confusing Type 1 and Type 2. Type 2 is largely caused by the bad diet, Type 1 is when they have an autoimmune reaction and their bodies kill off the cells that create insulin. With type 2, they become resistant to insulin due largely to the twinkies and soda. With Type 1, they have no insulin so their diet has no real effect on the diabetes.

A Type 1 could be on a healthy, sugar free diet their entire life and still die due to insulin issues because their bodies can't create it at all. A Type 2 can control their disease by changing habits because they still produce insulin, a Type 1 just doesn't have the insulin to begin with. With Type 1, there is nothing you can do diet-wise to prevent it. It's the immune system going nuts that causes it, not eating a diet of twinkies and coke and sitting around all day.

Skinny, healthy kids don't typically get type 2, but they can get type 1. We are a soda-free, pretty healthy diet family, so the type 1 was a huge shock to us until they explained the differences and that it wasn't caused by her diet or exercise levels.

They are completely separate diseases, and unfortunately most people don't know the difference. Type 1 kids like my daughter end up getting lumped in with the fatties that develop type 2 because they decided to call insulin resistance type 2 diabetes instead of something original. It's frustrating because people like yourself really don't know there is a huge difference in the two diseases and her's is not caused by neglect, bad diet or being a lazy fark.

The type 1 kids are the ones doing the injections for the rest of their lives. The type 2 fatties are the ones that end up taking pills or cutting out the coke and candy and end up pretty much cured.

The type 1 kids shouldn't get roasted because unhealthy fatties end up with a disease that shares part of the name of their condition.
 
2012-03-01 02:23:55 PM

redstarr01: You go vacation places like Epcot and Disney for fun and fantasy, pure entertainment and wonder. It's no place for learning important life lessons


God forbid you actually learn things at a theme park. EPCOT also has attractions that teach kids about our advances in space travel, the histories of cultures from around the world, how cars and spaceships are made, the underwater world and sea life, where our food comes from and in that big ball, the history of the world. But fark all that noise, your snowflake might be suggested to that they eat a carrot.

Take them to the Magic Kingdom then.
 
2012-03-01 02:33:29 PM
Oompa Loompa, do-ba-dee-doo,
I've got a perfect puzzle for you.
Oompa Loompa, do-ba-dee-dee,
If you are wise you'll listen to me.
What do you get when you guzzle down sweets?
Eating as much as an elephant eats.
What are you at getting terribly fat?
What do you think will come of that?
I don't like the look of it

Oompa Loompa do-ba-dee-da,
Given good manners you will go far.
You will live in happiness too,
Like the oompa loompa do-ba-dee-doo.
Do-ba-dee-doo!
 
2012-03-01 02:53:00 PM

Diogenes: OK. Let's drop the stereotyping and show them the real deal. Kids giving themselves insulin shots. Kids having to get a gastric bypass. Kids needing heart surgery at 16.

I think it wasn't negative enough.


Type 1 hereditary diabetic here, and I grew up giving myself insulin shots. I usually had this plastic injector thingie, but sometimes I'd forget it when I went to a restaurant, and have to go to the bathroom stall and shoot up insulin there. I always felt really weird doing it.

/csb
 
2012-03-01 02:53:11 PM
Of course, after readin the whole thing, one of the loudest criers about this is some Dr. who specializes in fattie surgery. What a shock. Shame on Disney for giving in to these fat bastards and those who would take advantage of them.
 
2012-03-01 02:54:21 PM
Hey! Fat girls need love too. They just have to pay.

/ I keed, I keed
 
2012-03-01 03:02:03 PM

Rapmaster2000: A GIS for fat disney brings up some interesting pics.

[www.milliontalks.com image 470x427]


Goddammit. Commence eyebleach.

images2.fanpop.com
 
2012-03-01 03:08:41 PM

MadHatter500: What struck me at the parks was how many more fat lazy bastards there were. Wasn't a single minute execpt on the monorail were I couldn't see a morbidly obese person on a hoveround "personal transport". That and the number of strollers - even kids in the 5-7 year old range had strollers. Outside many attractions was now a "parking lot" full of both strollers and electric fat movers.

Guess we're just getting 'em used to never moving around for themselves - got to prepare the next generation of hoveround fatasses.


Ok, my CSB:

In Austin, we have a lot of Segway Tours for folks too lazy to actually walk around our downtown and Capitol.

Two weeks ago we had our Marathon + 1/2 Marathon, well, pretty much all over town, but the finish line was on 11th Street and Congress.

The race organizers had Congress cordoned off from 11th through 7th street, so the runners could cross the finish line, get their medals, finish pictures, water, possibly medical assistance, ect before being swamped by the crowd.

Late in the race, the crowds had thinned and my coach and I were looking for one of our team mates, so we walked back to 7th street to see if she had finished. As we are standing at the exit to the cordoned area a Segway tour* of about 10 people moving at least 10 mph go zipping into the finish corral as a farking short cut to get to the Capitol. A group of volunteers had to chase them down to get them out of the finish line corral. Seriously, there are people coming in who had been running for over 5 hours, and the Wall-E folks were ready to run over them so they didn't have to roll one block left or right!

I farking hate Segways. They are the epitome of laziness. They are always being driven my morons, they too big and fast for the sidewalk, but fark, they don't belong on the roads either. The only thing I find they are useful for is the Airport Police.

*And the Austin marathon is kinda a big deal in town, you'd think a Segway Tour company might know it was going on.

/Anyway that's my CSB.
//Hate, hate, hate Segways.
 
2012-03-01 03:14:31 PM

tiamet4: Reading the article, it did seem a bit insensitive and possibly counterproductive that most if not all of the "bad" unhealthy characters were fat unhealthy. The growing trend toward obesity is concerning, but I think a better way to make kids healthier is to encourage everyone to be healthier, rather than singling out and making fun of larger unhealthy kids. Does mockery really help anyone lead a healthier lifestyle?


I don't think showing the thin kid who doesn't get off his ass and gets no exercise playing video games all day is going to help fatty get off his ass and get to sweating.
 
2012-03-01 03:22:42 PM

JackieRabbit: Whatthefark: Here's a pic of the NAAFP spokesperson.

[i44.tinypic.com image 320x244]

That's a whole lotta Rosey right there.

And you're accepting, right? Don't fap too hard!


Fap? I tried, but everytime I tried grabbing my dick, it jumped the other direction and told me it wouldn't let me fap to that.

I suppose it's for the best. He's never led me wrong before..
 
2012-03-01 03:28:27 PM
"National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance"

I saw it as "NAtAFA" and thought of this:

www.netbrawl.com

So, ve should EAT moose and skvirrel?

Anyone?
 
2012-03-01 03:41:56 PM

Rapmaster2000: Epcot lost me once it stopped being about the future.

[progresscityusa.com image 490x193]

Futuristic shiny city on a hill? Nah, we're going with "don't get fat" now.


You win, with The Prologue And The Promise. We almost found it, too. (lost treasure hunt. And no, the designer does NOT know the present location of it)...yet
 
2012-03-01 03:57:12 PM

RedT:
I farking hate Segways. They are the epitome of laziness. .


Segways: paying $5,000 to do something your legs will do for free.
 
2012-03-01 04:08:33 PM
Cosmic harmonic convergence, the place was.
 
2012-03-01 05:24:33 PM
If the NAAFA is so gung ho about acceptance, why do they hide so much of their chins on their own website?

www.naafaonline.com

www.naafaonline.com

Are they ashamed of something??

/double order of hot links
 
2012-03-01 06:31:28 PM
Wow, the fat scooters at Disney Land really are something. The one that stands out most to me from our last trip was in the tomorrowland section right outside of the pizza joint. In the water misters right outside the entrace there was a fat lady scooting through the mist section, driving around in circles, you know, to cool off.

CSB
 
2012-03-01 06:42:23 PM

Bronson Gigabit: Wow, the fat scooters at Disney Land really are something. The one that stands out most to me from our last trip was in the tomorrowland section right outside of the pizza joint. In the water misters right outside the entrace there was a fat lady scooting through the mist section, driving around in circles, you know, to cool off.

CSB


I still think those scooters should be methane powered with direct-to-ass plug-in.
 
2012-03-01 06:52:06 PM

trappedspirit: tiamet4: Reading the article, it did seem a bit insensitive and possibly counterproductive that most if not all of the "bad" unhealthy characters were fat unhealthy. The growing trend toward obesity is concerning, but I think a better way to make kids healthier is to encourage everyone to be healthier, rather than singling out and making fun of larger unhealthy kids. Does mockery really help anyone lead a healthier lifestyle?

I don't think showing the thin kid who doesn't get off his ass and gets no exercise playing video games all day is going to help fatty get off his ass and get to sweating.


Being overweight isn't the only way a person can be unhealthy. The way the exhibit appears to be designed may or may not help an overweight kid (I would still argue that shame is not the way to teach people to live a healthy lifestyle) but it certainly won't help the thinner kids realize that it's not just the obese who get heart disease, diabetes, etc and that there is a benefit to leading a healthy lifestyle independent of your physical appearance.


redstarr01:
It shows how out of touch with a lot of families execs at places like Blue Cross and Disney are. They forget how hard ordinary people work to take their families there. It's not just something to do on the weekend like a trip to the movies or the city park. It's a great big thing they save up for all year or longer or max out the credit cards for and they use the only vacation days they're going to have all year to make the trip. It's the huge thing the kids are worked up for months about and talk about for years afterwards. For lots of families, it's the one and only big fantastic family vacation of the kids' childhoods. Real ordinary families don't want anyone pushing any life improvement ideas on the kids. Just the fun they paid for. If Blue Cross ponied up enough money that they could make Epcot tickets free if you went through the health exhibit first, that'd be okay. But it's not adding value to the tickets parents are paying for the way it is now.


Also THIS
 
2012-03-01 07:56:21 PM

Digitalstrange: Obesity does have genetic causes and predispositions. I have a friend with a child who is very obese. She and this poor kid spend most of their time obsessing over this kids diet trying to fix the problem. I know for a fact the kid doesn't overeat.


So where's all the chubbiness coming from - photosynthesis?
 
2012-03-01 09:12:14 PM
img267.imageshack.us
 
2012-03-01 11:34:58 PM

lemortede:

This guy was my example.

/Anyone else think that the spokesman looks like Jabba the hut?
//What do they do, roll him in there?


WOW, thanks for the link!
 
2012-03-01 11:42:12 PM
Ya know, do ya, that the reason for the "obesity epidemic" is that the Government changed the definition of "fat" about a decade back, instantly making many normal people "overweight"? Look, people! A crisis! Possibly something shiny!

/Am fat. Still bemused at how readily people fall for this bullshiat.
 
2012-03-02 02:01:09 AM

lizaardvark: Ya know, do ya, that the reason for the "obesity epidemic" is that the Government changed the definition of "fat" about a decade back, instantly making many normal people "overweight"? Look, people! A crisis! Possibly something shiny!

/Am fat. Still bemused at how readily people fall for this bullshiat.


No, people are fatter now. Look around. Just because they all look like you, doesn't mean they always did.
 
2012-03-02 09:55:05 AM
National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance.??? LMFAO (fatass) I am overweight. But the thought of a group that wants me to stay that way is damn scary. I substitute teach and the number of little butterballs that come into the middle school classes is very sad. They can't run the mile in the time allotted and this association wants to maintain that? BS
 
2012-03-02 11:01:47 AM

Ivnabru: lelei: Diogenes: OK. Let's drop the stereotyping and show them the real deal. Kids giving themselves insulin shots. Kids having to get a gastric bypass. Kids needing heart surgery at 16.

I think it wasn't negative enough.


Ugh, the insulin shot remark really irks me. The kids giving themselves shots are the ones with Type 1 Diabetes, not the fatty-induced type 2 that results from diet.

My healthy-weight daughter is type 1 and has to do daily shots, it has nothing to do with weight or diet, it's autoimmune. Kids like her have enough to deal with, without people being led to believe they, or their parents, caused the disease.

The other type 1 kid at her school is skinny as a rail, and does the daily injections too. They really should have named the fatty version of the disease something completely different instead of just branding it as "Type 2." For those who have type 1, its frustrating having to deal with people who think it was caused by too much soda or eating at McDonald's, and my daughter doesn't deserve to be lumped in with the lazy, unhealthy people who typically end up with type 2.


Anyways, the fatties on scooters irk the hell out of me at Disney as well. On trip boards, its common to hear about people being injured or having very close calls due to fatties using the scooters as motorized ramming-rods. They act like the crowds should magically part for them to get through, and the drivers seem to be the most self-centered jerks around. Personally, I've had to push my kids out of the path of motorized psychopaths three times in our two trips down there.

I understand she's your kid so you have to stick up for her.

But, maybe if you kept her away from all the Soda and Twinkies she wouldn't have developed Type 1 Diabetes.

If your kid gets Type 1 Diabetes that young it's just bad parenting IMO.


Wow...someone failed at Google today. She's type 1, Dr. Smartypants....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_mellitus_type_1
 
2012-03-02 03:54:39 PM

Ivnabru: I understand she's your kid so you have to stick up for her.

But, maybe if you kept her away from all the Soda and Twinkies she wouldn't have developed Type 1 Diabetes.

If your kid gets Type 1 Diabetes that young it's just bad parenting IMO.


You're thinking of Type 2, also called "insulin-resistant diabetes." This is where the body develops a tolerance for its own insulin. This is the version typically associated with fatties, because their bodies have to produce so much insulin in an attempt to counter all the sugar they're taking in.

Type 1, "insulin-dependent diabetes" is an entirely different beast. With this one, the body can't produce insulin, at least not in the amounts that a healthy person can. It has nothing to do with being fat; in fact, one of the symptoms of Type 1 diabetes is weight loss, not weight gain. Unlike Type 2 diabetes, there is currently no known way of preventing Type 1: diet has nothing to do with it, and many people who have Type 1 have no other medical problems.

This said, one sad indicator of just how bad the obesity epidemic has gotten is the abrupt change in the culturally-assumed default meaning of the term "diabetes" when used alone. As recently as the mid-1990s, one tended to assume that "diabetes" referred to Type 1: references of this kind can be seen in contemporary literature (including children's literature) and even some video games. Nowadays, of course, people hear "diabetes" and think Type 2: that much is common knowledge. You yourself seem to have fallen into that trap.

Finally, a quick note about your "insulin shot" quip: most users of insulin are Type 1. Type 2 diabetes can be treated with insulin shots, though it's not common: Type 1, by contrast, requires insulin.
 
2012-03-02 04:58:08 PM
we must accept the fatties.
 
2012-03-03 02:15:28 PM

RedT: MadHatter500:

In Austin, we have a lot of Segway Tours for folks too lazy to actually walk around our downtown and Capitol.

Two weeks ago we had our Marathon + 1/2 Marathon, well, pretty much all over town, but the finish line was on 11th Street and Congress.



I farking hate Segways. They are the epitome of laziness. They are always being driven my morons, they too big and fast for the sidewalk, but fark, they don't belong on the roads either. The only thing I find they are useful for is the Airport Police.

*And the Austin marathon is kinda a big deal in town, you'd think a Segway Tour company might know ...


If I had the scratch, I would buy a Segway in a minute. I've been on a couple of Segway tours, and there is no way you can do the same amount of sightseeing any other way. I'm not lazy and I enjoy walking for exercise, but the Segway tour is still one of my favorite vacation attractions.

Does driving somewhere make you lazy, or just aware of the fact that you don't have the time to walk?

No argument about Segway riders sometimes being assholes, though. But that's not the fault of the technology.
 
2012-03-04 01:18:23 AM

MasterYong: I don't get it.

I'm fat. I know it. It's my fault.

This was true 2 months ago: I spend 4+ hours a day watching TV, and I work in an office. I have a dog that I don't walk (a lob nonetheless, so he's INSANE). I eat huge portions of food just because I can afford to, and I drink 4 to 6 dark beers a day (stouts or porters mostly).

I have lost over 50 lbs in the last 2 months. How? I stopped drinking. Started walking the dog. Got a standing desk at work. Quit watching TV so much and went back to my old hobbies: hiking, playing music, gardening, and lifting weights. I changed my eating habits, and only include meat in dinner now. I have a smoothie for breakfast that's mostly vegetables like spinach, carrots, and celery, with just a tiny amount of fruit for flavor (typically 3 blackberries or 8 blueberries). I have carrots, celery, and cucumber for lunch. I eat whatever the hell I please for dinner (to avoid LOSING MY MIND eating all the health food LOL).

I have lost six inches off my waist and dropped two t-shirt sizes.

I'm still fat, but getting better. And, it's all my fault. I gained the weight due to a shiatty lifestyle, and now I'm losing it due to a decent lifestyle. I'm actually happier too.

Then ASSHATS like this "obesity club" (or whatever they're calling themselves) that are too fat, lazy, and stupid to get off the couch and DO something about their lifestyle spend so much time and energy crying and screaming about how fat people have "bad genetics" or "poor metabolisms" etc etc etc. There is a teeny, tiny, smidgen of the population that is fat because of genetic predisposition. The VAST majority of fat people, ESPECIALLY fat children, are fat because they are lazy and have irresponsible lifestyles.

W.

T.

F.

/OK I'm done being serious.
//I realize that being serious is not really appreciated around here.
///I'm so sorry.... uh... BOOBIES!!!


Fark it, I'll give it a shot. 20 lbs. to lose, creeping up on me in my *gasp* mid-30s.
 
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