The band Belly was founded by this guy: Fred Kendal Abong (new window)

Not the best video but I promise you he is worse than he sounds. He was kicked out before their big album was released. I would like to thank RI Public Access' Center Stage for introducing me to this musical disaster.

fusillade762: Won? Sorry, all those bands (with the possible exceptions of Pink Floyd and Faith No More) sucked with the old singers and still suck with the new ones.

2/10

List is missing Dream Theater and Killswitch Engage. Which is understandable.

muck4doo: The same think kind of happened with Black Sabbath when they went from Ozzy to Dio. Listen to Sabbath songs with Ozzy. He tends to just sing to whatever tune the guitar is doing(Iron Man being a good example).

Yeah, that Ozzy, no career at all after Sabbath.
/what?

list fails by including Fleetwood Mac

Technically Kamelot belongs on this list, but I doubt they can do it AGAIN now that Roy is gone.

Kurmudgeon: muck4doo: The same think kind of happened with Black Sabbath when they went from Ozzy to Dio. Listen to Sabbath songs with Ozzy. He tends to just sing to whatever tune the guitar is doing(Iron Man being a good example).

Yeah, that Ozzy, no career at all after Sabbath.
/what?

I love Ozzy. Compared to Dio though, Dio was the more talented vocalist. Ozzy is the better stage performer.

Peter Gabriel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Collins

I do like some of the Collins Genesis songs though, and Phil is an awesome drummer.

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: list fails by including Fleetwood Mac

In what way? They sold a lot of records with a new lineup, which appears to be the criterion.

Surprised Joy Division / New Order didn't make that list.

Michael McDonald joining the Doobie Bros.?

fusillade762: Won? Sorry, all those bands (with the possible exceptions of Pink Floyd and Faith No More) sucked with the old singers and still suck with the new ones.

This. Mike Patton is the shiat

Black Flag, Joy Division/New Order and Fleetwood Mac. Triple fail.

Yeah, I agree that DLR was the shiat with Van Halen. But go back and watch Eddie and Sammy at Farm Aid when they came out and played some Led Zep. And just kind of messed around. That was rock N roll.

They forgot Jefferson Airplane who had Signe Toly Anderson before they had Grace Slick then again I wouldn't call Jefferson Starship winning though.

Does CSN count? They change lead singers all the time often within the same song. Sometimes there's even 3 lead singers.

And they also sometimes perform in various configurations adding a 4th singer or subtracting 1 or even 2.

what about the Beatles replacing Paul so seamlessly?

as for Van Hagar... funny thing is i love van halen w/Roth, can't stand most Van Hagar era stuff, but when Roth went on his own? meh, sucked. but i absolutely love most pre-van halen hagar(but not montrose).

rickycal78: Yeah, I expected the "waaaaah Van Hagar!" whaargarble. Suck it haters, I won't say he was better than Roth, but he wasn't as bad as all you whiny bastards make him out to be, the band just went a different direction with him.



makes me laugh all of the "Roth!" "Hagar!" stuff.

1984 was basically just like anything they did with Hagar, and "Finish What You Started" "Poundcake" "Judgement Day" are a Roth songs all the way.

I think all the butt hurt over Hagar is because they had a lot of commercial success when he was in the band.

formerfloozy: GonzoNihilist: Alice in Chains

Am I the only one who deeply dug Layne Staley's unholy howl? Jerry Cantrell has a great voice, but without the matching harmonies, it just doesn't have that visceral sound.

Layne is Alice in Chains, Cantrell is a decent musician but his vocals are weak, they should have changed the name of the band instead of recording as Alice in Chains if they are just going to be a neutered version of the band.

And good god that early version of AC/DC was farking awful, I would have had that lead singer killed on the spot, Bon Scott was probably the greatest singer to die too soon, Brian wasnt bad but everyone loves Bon.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I personally don't think Velvet Revolver counts. Nothing they've put out comes close to Apetite for Destruction or Use Your Illusion.

Well neither does Chinese Democracy.

piney: rickycal78: Yeah, I expected the "waaaaah Van Hagar!" whaargarble. Suck it haters, I won't say he was better than Roth, but he wasn't as bad as all you whiny bastards make him out to be, the band just went a different direction with him.



makes me laugh all of the "Roth!" "Hagar!" stuff.

1984 was basically just like anything they did with Hagar, and "Finish What You Started" "Poundcake" "Judgement Day" are a Roth songs all the way.

I think all the butt hurt over Hagar is because they had a lot of commercial success when he was in the band.

No, it's that the whole attitude of the band changed.

pelzo63: what about the Beatles replacing Paul so seamlessly?


Beat me by 15 minutes...

You could argue Dave Gilmour did Pink Floyd an enormous favor getting them away from blatant psychedelia and into a slightly more mainstream sound (even if it took four more albums to hit it big). Had Barrett made it through '68 I'd bet that Pink Floyd had broken up by 1971.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: List fails without RATM (Audioslave).

Audioslave = RatM + Soundgarden - any of the creativity of either. So while the list fails for various reasons, this isn't one of them.

piney: 1984 was basically just like anything they did with Hagar, and "Finish What You Started" "Poundcake" "Judgement Day" are a Roth songs all the way.

Yeah I could picture DLR singing a lot of the same songs that Hagar sang in VH, Sammy is given way too much shiat and is a super nice guy........LEAVE HAGAR ALONE!

What I really loved was that the biggest complaint that supposedly split the band was that the songs were getting too soft with the use of keyboards so Dave leaves to record covers of........an old standard and a Beach Boys song???? WTF Dave.

wildcardjack: pelzo63: what about the Beatles replacing Paul so seamlessly?


Beat me by 15 minutes...

muck4doo: Billy Shears was also a better singer than that McCartney guy on The Beatles.

I beat you both by over an hour.

muck4doo: No, it's that the whole attitude of the band changed.

From a top 40, hard drinking, womanizing band into a top 10, hard drinking, womanizing band?

Ken VeryBigLiar: You could argue Dave Gilmour did Pink Floyd an enormous favor getting them away from blatant psychedelia and into a slightly more mainstream sound (even if it took four more albums to hit it big). Had Barrett made it through '68 I'd bet that Pink Floyd had broken up by 1971.

I am one of the few that also will admit that the syd barrett era was one of the weakest of their works, sure if it was the 60s and I wanted to trip but its not so just leave it on the shelf.

muck4doo: piney: rickycal78: Yeah, I expected the "waaaaah Van Hagar!" whaargarble. Suck it haters, I won't say he was better than Roth, but he wasn't as bad as all you whiny bastards make him out to be, the band just went a different direction with him.



makes me laugh all of the "Roth!" "Hagar!" stuff.

1984 was basically just like anything they did with Hagar, and "Finish What You Started" "Poundcake" "Judgement Day" are a Roth songs all the way.

I think all the butt hurt over Hagar is because they had a lot of commercial success when he was in the band.

No, it's that the whole attitude of the band changed.

and I hate Hagar's horrible voice.

RodneyToady: King Crimson? Lake for 2 albums, Haskell for 1, Burrell for 1, Wetton for 3, then Belew for 3 decades.

Rodney! Your tea is ready.

muck4doo: piney: rickycal78: Yeah, I expected the "waaaaah Van Hagar!" whaargarble. Suck it haters, I won't say he was better than Roth, but he wasn't as bad as all you whiny bastards make him out to be, the band just went a different direction with him.



makes me laugh all of the "Roth!" "Hagar!" stuff.

1984 was basically just like anything they did with Hagar, and "Finish What You Started" "Poundcake" "Judgement Day" are a Roth songs all the way.

I think all the butt hurt over Hagar is because they had a lot of commercial success when he was in the band.

No, it's that the whole attitude of the band changed.

really?

You mean they went from a rock band that was high all the time and turned into a rock band that was drunk all the time?

hubcity: Surprised Joy Division / New Order didn't make that list.

They might have been left off because, unlike the rest of the list, they didn't bring in a new singer. The guitar player just started doing the singing himself.

stoli n coke: hubcity: Surprised Joy Division / New Order didn't make that list.

They might have been left off because, unlike the rest of the list, they didn't bring in a new singer. The guitar player just started doing the singing himself.

at least 1 band on the list did a similar thing...phil collins was the drummer for genesis and became the singer

stoli n coke: hubcity: Surprised Joy Division / New Order didn't make that list.

They might have been left off because, unlike the rest of the list, they didn't bring in a new singer. The guitar player just started doing the singing himself.

Genesis didn't bring in a new singer either, so that can't be the reason.

stoli n coke: hubcity: Surprised Joy Division / New Order didn't make that list.

They might have been left off because, unlike the rest of the list, they didn't bring in a new singer. The guitar player just started doing the singing himself.

Maybe it's because of the name change. If that's the case, Love and Rockets/Bauhaus would fit in there too.

stoli n coke: hubcity: Surprised Joy Division / New Order didn't make that list.

They might have been left off because, unlike the rest of the list, they didn't bring in a new singer. The guitar player just started doing the singing himself.

Wouldn't that be a new singer?

Also the list mentioned Phil Collins

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: list fails by including Fleetwood Mac

In what way? They sold a lot of records with a new lineup, which appears to be the criterion.

because the new FM sucks ass compared to the original

Ant: stoli n coke: hubcity: Surprised Joy Division / New Order didn't make that list.

They might have been left off because, unlike the rest of the list, they didn't bring in a new singer. The guitar player just started doing the singing himself.

Maybe it's because of the name change. If that's the case, Love and Rockets/Bauhaus would fit in there too.

That could be the case.

Le Bomb Suprize: AC/DC with Bon Scott is vastly superior to the Brian Johnson version and I will gladly take a beating while trying to pummel anyone who says different. Highway to Hell > Back in Black.

I agree, but I'll still give credit to Brian Johnson as he was probably the best replacement they could have gotten. Also, Powerage > Highway to Hell

Faith No More is being included in that list, why?

A bunch of big bands and one group of nobodies.

What about when Snotty Scotty and the Hankees dumped frontman Hocking Scott Lewis, and replaced him with Jersey shiatstache Malone?

Drrr

FunkOut: Phil Collins voice makes me depressed.

I Wish It Would Rain Down makes me want to kill myself.

steamingpile: muck4doo: No, it's that the whole attitude of the band changed.

From a top 40, hard drinking, womanizing band into a top 10, hard drinking, womanizing band?

Ken VeryBigLiar: You could argue Dave Gilmour did Pink Floyd an enormous favor getting them away from blatant psychedelia and into a slightly more mainstream sound (even if it took four more albums to hit it big). Had Barrett made it through '68 I'd bet that Pink Floyd had broken up by 1971.

I am one of the few that also will admit that the syd barrett era was one of the weakest of their works, sure if it was the 60s and I wanted to trip but its not so just leave it on the shelf.

I think my favorite PF stuff is the Gilmour stuff. I love Division Bell and Momentary Lapse. But, the really can do no wrong IMO.

When Joe Bob replaced Gunnar Bob, that was the biggest win in the history of wins.

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: list fails by including Fleetwood Mac

In what way? They sold a lot of records with a new lineup, which appears to be the criterion.

because the new FM sucks ass compared to the original

Of course. It would have been nice if Peter Green hadn't lost his farking mind. But the product sold well, which appears to be all the listmakers gave a shiat about. Genesis was not improved by the subtraction of Peter Gabriel, either.