feffer: It's possible to change jobs, but there's a process. She didn't know, didn't care, or couldn't go through the process.

Oh, that's different. "PREYING UPON THE INNOCENT, IGNORANT AND LINGUISTICALLY CHALLENGED IS OKAY!"

I rented a large walk in closet/sewing room for a year back in college. I couldn't open my dresser drawers all the way and had about a foot of clearance on the side of my bed not occupied by the dresser or walls. It wasn't bad at all.

I have no sympathy for illegal aliens. None. Get in the country the right way and you can be like the Iranian that owns a gas station near my house. He came in legally and worked his ass off. Now he's making lots of money. And he's friendlier than most "white people" that run similar businesses.

bunner: feffer: It's possible to change jobs, but there's a process. She didn't know, didn't care, or couldn't go through the process.

Oh, that's different. "PREYING UPON THE INNOCENT, IGNORANT AND LINGUISTICALLY CHALLENGED IS OKAY!"

I believe you may have misunderstood me.

Cubansaltyballs: dericwater: A very Solomonic solution. I like it.

/She'll probably won't survive 24 hours in India. They'll rip her to shreds there.


She'd survive. Although her children would be someone's household slave and she would become one of those chicks working so fast the truck-drivers would think she was the god with 8 mouths.

Not sure of survival. Without money or power or connections, the indian locals will take her apart. Even the connections part is irrelevant if there's no money or power to enable the connection.

AirForceVet: Well, they did create a job, for God's sake.

Yeah, and now those pesky federal regulations will destroy it.

SchlingFocker: BMFPitt: // How do you think India would feel about your plan?

The slaver likely holds Indian citizenship, as she speaks the same language as the slave she owned. The last name George is not uncommon in Indians.

India wouldn't have much of a problem taking one of their citizens who'd been booted from the U.S.

She'd most likely have a call center job waiting for her as soon as she gets off of the plane.

dericwater: SchlingFocker: Simple solution to this case:

Give the slave the whole property, as well as all of the woman's monetary holdings. Give the slave U.S. citizenship.

Revoke the woman's citizenship and send her to India.

You want a farking caste system, you coont?? Here you go.

A very Solomonic solution. I like it.

/She'll probably won't survive 24 hours in India. They'll rip her to shreds there.

I can't tell you how absolutely heartbroken I'd be if that happened.

Cubansaltyballs: feffer: Cubansaltyballs: feffer: quoinguy: You know what the common denominator is with these types of cases? Illegal immigration.

TFA says she came here on a non-immigrant visa in 1998. Maybe the visa expired, I don't know. Maybe she couldn't renew it because she didn't have any money.

She became illegal when she changed "jobs"... which the new owner knew, and is why she treated her the way she did. She couldn't leave or fight or do anything because she was illegal... so why not treat her like an animal?

It's possible to change jobs, but there's a process. She didn't know, didn't care, or couldn't go through the process.

Or they said they would take care of it. But I don't believe that.... a family that has that much money is incapable of telling a lie.

LOL! Yeah, this to me is the most likely scenario. By "couldn't" I meant that she might not have had the money, the connections, or the transportation to do what was needed. Or her "employers" didn't do what was necessary on their end, trapping her.

So, nice white American girl is kidnapped and sold into slavery in a foreign country, it becomes a movie plot that has sh*t blowing up, madcap chase scenes and the bad guys are unceremoniously killed off like the vermin they are while is fills the viewer with righteous anger. Brown person is stuck in a McMansion as a slave and a surrogate mother for a weekly salary that equates to two cartons of off brand smokes, and c*ntzilla gets sent home to consider the error of her ways in a marble bubble bath. Outstanding.

feffer: bunner: feffer: It's possible to change jobs, but there's a process. She didn't know, didn't care, or couldn't go through the process.

Oh, that's different. "PREYING UPON THE INNOCENT, IGNORANT AND LINGUISTICALLY CHALLENGED IS OKAY!"

I believe you may have misunderstood me.

'k.

gweilo8888: Subby: "Illegal alien employed as a servant paid 85 cents an hour, slept in closet of 34-room mansion in upstate New York. The job creator is in trouble with Uncle Sam"

You've misspelled McMansion.

A McMansion is built on too small of a piece of property compared to a house that size, placed in a neighborhood where it is out of place for being far too large and far too ornate.

This has grounds. It's legitimately a mansion. It might not be a palace, but definitely qualifies...

The law she violated looks to be pretty impotent. Maximum penalty of a $3000 fine and six months in jail would qualify as a slap on the wrist even for a 99%'er. Seeing how she can afford a good attorney, I imagine she won't see a day of jail time and there's probably enough money to cover the fine in her car's change-holder.

Yakk: Someone get that woman a tax cut!

Stat!

That coward David Lopan: She had to sleep in a closet in a bedroom shared by the family's three daughters, the complaint alleges, because "Annie George required that V.M. be near the children at night."

What? The rich don't know about the existence of baby monitors?

Ummm that is a baby monitor.........oooooohhhhh you meant like they would raise their own kids...........hahahhahahahahha!

Because People in power are Stupid: This is just another case of big government overstepping it's bounds and trampling on the rights of working Americans.

Not an American. Not subject to our workers' rights.

Don't like it? Become a citizen.

And yes, string up the homeowner by his balls, etc. Etc.

Cubansaltyballs: In India, a lot middle-class people have household workers, and why not? All it takes is an extra bedroom and costs you $15 a month

I had a live in maid when I lived in Ecuador. It was great! We had a five bedroom house that was shared with three Americans teaching there and the children of one of the gals. The live in was a maid/nanny and was paid about $50 a month plus given the room/board.

I made $200 a month teaching and lived very well.

Just because you can make it work in a different country doesn't mean it is okay to pay them third world wages when they are here working for you in the U.S.

pete1729: At 30k square feet, it's a mansion. It is, however, an eyesore. It is seriously unattractive.

TommyymmoT: No, I've seen McMansions, and that's not one of them.
It actually has top of the line everything in it.
It's not just some over-sized prefab.
I know one of the plumbing contractors, and he said it looked like they just opened catalogs and bought the most expensive stuff they could find, and the architects fees alone were about a million dollars.

There's enough marble and granite tied up in that place to rebuild Athens, and there's not a spec of vinyl siding to be seen anywhere. Even the roof is slate.

Hey, if you're going steal people's life savings to spend on one singular object, it might as well be a nice one, with a beautiful view, on the river.

Admit it. You just like using the word McMansion. It makes you seem all informed and cutting edge and stuff huh?
It kind of says "I have impeccable taste, but live within my means, not like those nouveau riche hillbillies, and once my big idea takes off, I'm going to have a much nicer one!".

TWX: A McMansion is built on too small of a piece of property compared to a house that size, placed in a neighborhood where it is out of place for being far too large and far too ornate.

This has grounds. It's legitimately a mansion. It might not be a palace, but definitely qualifies...

None of the above. I quote Wikipedia:

"In American suburban communities, McMansion is a pejorative term for a type of large, new luxury house which is judged to be pretentious, tasteless, or - especially - incongruous for its neighborhood."

The McMansion in the article is quite clearly--from the aerial and street view imagery--both pretentious and tasteless. It is also surrounded on all sides by properties that are tiny by comparison, with valuations barely 10-20% of the McMansions.

It is hence by all three senses provided in the opening sentence of the Wiki article a McMansion.

Tip of the Iceberg.

This is not an isolated incident.

The uber-rich got a lotta skeletons in their closets. And some of them are still breathing.....and crying.....

The game is rigged---and once the Winners reach a certain point, Human Rights don't matter.

You are their property. Deal with it.

All you Farkettes out there Daddy McMoneybags is in the house I'm uppin the ante $.90 for 10 BIE VIE AIE pics....thats right ladies.....$.90....so step up and collect you hard earned money just send the pics and payment info and let the windfall be bestowed upon you!!!!

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SchlingFocker: The slaver likely holds Indian citizenship, as she speaks the same language as the slave she owned. The last name George is not uncommon in Indians.

I was wondering about this myself -- the vast majority of these domestic "slavery" cases involve immigrants exploiting other immigrants, tho' sometimes the victim is an immigrant of a different ethnicity (e.g. a Saudi couple exploiting a Bangladeshi). Such criminals are more likely to come from a part of the world in which such extreme oppression of an employee is taken for granted. True, this employer may have had ancestors come over on the Mayflower, but it seems a trifle unlikely.

/won't somebody please, please think of the brown people?!

I was living in what amounted to a utility closet with an en suite bath is some company store housing on an island where I turned in 70 hour weeks on a regular basis. The daughter of the couple who managed it agreed to come in and clean and do my laundry once a week and I paid way more than she asked. And she deserved it. Guess I'll never be a one percenter. Thank God.

I know where that place is. My parents live about 10 minutes away.
Llenroc is what the name of the mansion is. Cornell backwards.
The original owners were alum from Cornell.

42.831518,-73.86365 is where that place is.

gweilo8888: Subby: "Illegal alien employed as a servant paid 85 cents an hour, slept in closet of 34-room mansion in upstate New York. The job creator is in trouble with Uncle Sam"

You've misspelled McMansion.

No, this one was a true mansion. "McMansion" refers to the large but quite common houses that are built in nicer areas and often all look alike.

gweilo8888: pete1729: At 30k square feet, it's a mansion. It is, however, an eyesore. It is seriously unattractive.

TommyymmoT: No, I've seen McMansions, and that's not one of them.
It actually has top of the line everything in it.
It's not just some over-sized prefab.
I know one of the plumbing contractors, and he said it looked like they just opened catalogs and bought the most expensive stuff they could find, and the architects fees alone were about a million dollars.

There's enough marble and granite tied up in that place to rebuild Athens, and there's not a spec of vinyl siding to be seen anywhere. Even the roof is slate.

Hey, if you're going steal people's life savings to spend on one singular object, it might as well be a nice one, with a beautiful view, on the river.

Admit it. You just like using the word McMansion. It makes you seem all informed and cutting edge and stuff huh?
It kind of says "I have impeccable taste, but live within my means, not like those nouveau riche hillbillies, and once my big idea takes off, I'm going to have a much nicer one!".

TWX: A McMansion is built on too small of a piece of property compared to a house that size, placed in a neighborhood where it is out of place for being far too large and far too ornate.

This has grounds. It's legitimately a mansion. It might not be a palace, but definitely qualifies...

None of the above. I quote Wikipedia:

"In American suburban communities, McMansion is a pejorative term for a type of large, new luxury house which is judged to be pretentious, tasteless, or - especially - incongruous for its neighborhood."

The McMansion in the article is quite clearly--from the aerial and street view imagery--both pretentious and tasteless. It is also surrounded on all sides by properties that are tiny by comparison, with valuations barely 10-20% of the McMansions.

It is hence by all three senses provided in the opening sentence of the Wiki article a McMansion.

ALL mansions are pretty much pretentious and tasteless.

'McMansion' is slang. It describes those ridiculous large cookie-cutter houses, usually found in subdivisions lined up alongside countless identical houses, separated from the neighbors with eight-foot fences and tiny little yards.

Just check out the GIS for McMansion: Link (new window)

jabelar: gweilo8888: Subby: "Illegal alien employed as a servant paid 85 cents an hour, slept in closet of 34-room mansion in upstate New York. The job creator is in trouble with Uncle Sam"

You've misspelled McMansion.

No, this one was a true mansion. "McMansion" refers to the large but quite common houses that are built in nicer areas and often all look alike.

No, this was just a very big McMansion.

CapHwys: Llenroc is what the name of the mansion is. Cornell backwards.
The original owners were alum from Cornell.

I had no idea they taught "unimaginative douchebag" at Cornell. Seriously? This is the wit and wisdom of the usurious but erudite?

Because People in power are Stupid: This is just another case of big government overstepping it's bounds and trampling on the rights of working Americans RON PAUL!.


ftfy

LeroyBourne: Go through her cell phone, go to all her friends' houses. I'm pretty sure she gloated about this and encouraged her friends to get their very own brown person to slave for a few bucks a day.

It looks as if the employer was also "brown". So much for using this case as an indictment of capitalist America and evil Whitey.

/loves watching Farkers try to white knight for "brown people"

SevenizGud: jabelar: gweilo8888: Subby: "Illegal alien employed as a servant paid 85 cents an hour, slept in closet of 34-room mansion in upstate New York. The job creator is in trouble with Uncle Sam"

You've misspelled McMansion.

No, this one was a true mansion. "McMansion" refers to the large but quite common houses that are built in nicer areas and often all look alike.

No, this was just a very big McMansion.

Then what on earth qualifies as a 'real' mansion? Nothing smaller than the Biltmore estate?

Cubansaltyballs: They aren't just happy they're rich, they want to make sure they're the only ones who are rich.

When everybody is special, nobody is special.

OK. It's a mansion

That a hundred hour a week personal slave scrubbed clean for roughly the cost of a tank of premium in an Escalade.

But it's a mansion.

So she can't be all bad. I mean, it's a mansion. Only people who have done will at life get mansions. *sigh*

By job creator you mean an old widow?

SchlingFocker: Simple solution to this case:

Give the slave the whole property, as well as all of the woman's monetary holdings. Give the slave U.S. citizenship.

Revoke the woman's citizenship and send her to India.

You want a farking caste system, you coont?? Here you go.

You know?

I'm okay with this.

McMansion? What? What does a house have to have to qualify as an actual mansion? A moat?

bunner: So, nice white American girl is kidnapped and sold into slavery in a foreign country, it becomes a movie plot that has sh*t blowing up, madcap chase scenes and the bad guys are unceremoniously killed off like the vermin they are while is fills the viewer with righteous anger. Brown person is stuck in a McMansion as a slave and a surrogate mother for a weekly salary that equates to two cartons of off brand smokes, and c*ntzilla gets sent home to consider the error of her ways in a marble bubble bath. Outstanding.

If I could favorite you twice I would.

penthesilea: The house has a dick.

And a serious left hook on it's man batter issuance. "We named it Llenroc!" Why? Was Destrehan taken?

quoinguy: I say it all of these threads--being against illegal immigration isn't about "they're taking our jorbs!" as much as it is about the whole package of being a legal immigrant--proper payment of taxes, tightening the border from drugs and terrorists, and allowing the undocumented poor to have legal access to all the rights afforded to all American residents/citizens. Day in and day out they're abused by employers, abused by human-trafficking thugs, and cannot complain when they're paid less than minimum wage.

If you do some research into modern slavery you'll quickly find that many of the people who bring men and women like this to foreign countries to work often convince their victims that they will be helping them to become full, legal citizens of whatever country they are traveling to or at the very least get them working visas. However once they get to the US (or wherever they're going) their passports are confiscated (can't just go home), they aren't given any legal papers (no legal status), and the people holding them threaten them with all sorts of things including physical violence and--you guessed it--prosecution for illegal immigration. Their victims are usually too frightened to go to the police because of the very same laws you want to make stronger under the guise of protecting them.

I can see examples where your argument might be valid, like in the case of illegal immigrants who pick crops and are exploited horribly in the name of cheap labor, but those people are rarely actually *enslaved* by farm owners (i.e. kept in warehouses or forced to sleep in closets, forced prostitute themselves only to have their earnings stolen from them by pimps all while being threatened with bodily harm or arrest if they don't do what the master says). They're very different mechanisms of exploitation and they require different legal approaches to fix.

Also as some have already pointed out, the woman originally entered the country legally.

You guys clearly don't know the difference between a mansion and a McMansion. Good news, though!



I found a picture of a McMansion! You can use that to compare. This house is clearly smaller.

McMansion.

Annie George is a true american job creator!!
Suck it libs!
Frothy for LUBRICATION!!!