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2012-02-29 11:39:09 AM
One of the best things he's ever said.
 
2012-02-29 11:58:13 AM
Banksy is, and always has been, completely full of shiat. Some of his vandalism is interesting, but his politics and ethos are so ill-informed its embarrassing.
 
2012-02-29 12:22:05 PM
I appreciate the thought, but here's the sticking point:

Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours.

Banksy's a professional graffiti artist. Does his opinion of "public space" include private property? If an ad is truly in a public space, petition your local government to ban ads in specific public spaces. It's been done before.
 
2012-02-29 12:57:27 PM
laist.com

BANKSY, THE MOVIE!!!
 
2012-02-29 12:58:05 PM

Actual Farking: Banksy is, and always has been, completely full of shiat.


Care to point out how he's full of shiat?

Lumpmoose: Banksy's a professional graffiti artist.


Actually he's a professional artist. He does stuff besides the graffiti.
 
2012-02-29 12:59:23 PM
How does Banksy make money?
 
2012-02-29 01:01:30 PM
What a farce. All Banksy does is advertise, only without the decency to pay for his ad-space. Cute stencils, but really, he's not the noble anti-hero suburban white kids make him out to be.
 
2012-02-29 01:01:39 PM

Swoop1809: How does Banksy make money?


He's actually sold work legitimately.
 
2012-02-29 01:02:04 PM

WhyteRaven74: Actual Farking: Banksy is, and always has been, completely full of shiat.

Care to point out how he's full of shiat?

Lumpmoose: Banksy's a professional graffiti artist.

Actually he's a professional artist. He does stuff besides the graffiti.


If he's doing it to someone else's property without the owner's permision, he's a vandal. Him saying that an ad on a bus is "his" to "modify" is a statement that illustrates his being full of shiat. It's not his ad and it's not his bus. If he paints on it he's as much of a vandal as any street thug "tagger".
 
2012-02-29 01:02:25 PM
Banky? Isn't he just a tracer?
 
2012-02-29 01:03:12 PM

Swoop1809: How does Banksy make money?


He does actual paintings and sculpture, which can be bought.

Here's one of his better known paintings

i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2012-02-29 01:03:55 PM
I'm certainly not into defacing private property.

But I think Banksy's work is awesome.

But his views are a little crazy.

But I *detest* advertisement... I think it's actually a problem with me. Ads are just about the only thing on the planet that both offend me and make me incredibly uncomfortable.

I think Banksy touched upon the very thing I hate about ads, so I got to give him credit for that.

Lumpmoose: If an ad is truly in a public space, petition your local government to ban ads in specific public spaces.


Can we petition government to remove all advertising from TV, internet, and all public spaces, everywhere, for eternity?
 
2012-02-29 01:04:47 PM
His name is synonymous with cool therefore this generic manifesto speaks to me more than all the other bullshait I read all day online.
 
2012-02-29 01:05:16 PM
imokwiththis.jpg
 
2012-02-29 01:05:25 PM

Swoop1809: How does Banksy make money?


People buy his art for obscene amounts of money whether he likes it or not. Also who is to say that he doesn't have a cushey desk job at some ad agency in his "normal" life that pays his bills. This could just be a rant of self loathing or an attempt to keep his street cred intact. Maybe he is about to be outed. Who knows.
 
2012-02-29 01:05:55 PM
Banksy's blog and vandalism suck.

Also, if you don't like advertising, be prepared to pay a ton of money for free content that you get now, such as news sites, Facebook, FARK, etc...
 
2012-02-29 01:07:09 PM
Trademarks, intellectual property rights, and copyright law also have nothing to do with the point he seems to be trying to make.

One does not gain ownership of something because it may exist in the public space at a given point in time. By that logic, I hotwire a car that is parked on a public street and do I want with it using the sole justification that it is parked on a public street.

If he is only using that logic with respect to advertisements, what about the person wearing a Nike T-shirt, wearing their Banana express jeans, wearing the branded Doc Marten shoes, drinking a latte from Starbucks? All of those are a form of advertising and a clearly visible. Does this mean Banksy wants me to tag or "take, re-arrange, and reuse" these people?

We get it Banksy. You don't like advertisement. It doesn't mean your illogically defined thoughts on property rights is any less illogical.

/you can't own property, man
//I can. But that's because I'm not a penniless hippie!
 
2012-02-29 01:07:10 PM

WhyteRaven74: Swoop1809: How does Banksy make money?

He does actual paintings and sculpture, which can be bought.

Here's one of his better known paintings

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 620x400]


I'm a bigger fan of his prehistoric work. Very subtle, and when it gets dropped into the odd Natural History museum, it usually takes a few days for anyone to notice.

drettworlb.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-02-29 01:07:53 PM
I don't call myself a fan but me and Mr. Banks can agree on one thing. Marketers are deplorable scum.
"You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing. You especially don't owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have rearranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don't even start asking for theirs."
 
2012-02-29 01:08:16 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What a farce. All Banksy does is advertise, only without the decency to pay for his ad-space. Cute stencils, but really, he's not the noble anti-hero suburban white kids make him out to be.


Yeah, really -- no one wants you throwing rocks at our heads either, Banksy. Still, far less offensive than Shepard Fairey's bullshiat.
 
2012-02-29 01:08:19 PM

titwrench: Maybe he is about to be outed.


The quote about advertising is several years old.

PowerSlacker: Banksy's blog and vandalism suck.


I'm sure you contribute something infinitely more worthwhile.
 
2012-02-29 01:09:35 PM

Actual Farking: Banksy is, and always has been, completely full of shiat. Some of his vandalism is interesting, but his politics and ethos are so ill-informed its embarrassing.


Care to elaborate on that diatribe?
 
2012-02-29 01:09:58 PM

berylman: I don't call myself a fan but me and Mr. Banks can agree on one thing. Marketers are deplorable scum.
"You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing. You especially don't owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have rearranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don't even start asking for theirs."


Years ago I read something that pinpointed exactly why I hate advertisers. It was something like "we (advertisers) inform people about things they don't know they need yet".
 
2012-02-29 01:10:53 PM

KatjaMouse: drettworlb.files.wordpress.com


I love that in the case of that piece, the curator of ancient art at the museum had a laugh and had it added to the museum's collection. A sense of humor being a very rare thing in the art world. It's one of the fun things about Banksy, he has a sense of humor.
 
2012-02-29 01:11:38 PM

DeltaPunch: But I *detest* advertisement... I think it's actually a problem with me. Ads are just about the only thing on the planet that both offend me and make me incredibly uncomfortable.


I feel this way when I'm watching tv or looking at the internet, but I moved to an area where signs and billboards are basically banned and it's 1) boring and 2) annoying when you want to find a place.
 
2012-02-29 01:12:13 PM
Someone remind me why I should care about his opinion or anyone else's for that matter?
 
2012-02-29 01:12:30 PM

WhyteRaven74: I'm sure you contribute something infinitely more worthwhile.


Since when does legitimate criticism come only from a peer or similarly accomplished person? That's not how it works.
 
2012-02-29 01:12:59 PM

DeltaPunch: I'm certainly not into defacing private property.

But I think Banksy's work is awesome.

But his views are a little crazy.

But I *detest* advertisement... I think it's actually a problem with me. Ads are just about the only thing on the planet that both offend me and make me incredibly uncomfortable.

I think Banksy touched upon the very thing I hate about ads, so I got to give him credit for that.

Lumpmoose: If an ad is truly in a public space, petition your local government to ban ads in specific public spaces.

Can we petition government to remove all advertising from TV, internet, and all public spaces, everywhere, for eternity?



Sure, but good luck getting it past a 1st amendment challenge in the United States.
 
2012-02-29 01:13:02 PM

Glenford: Banky? Isn't he just a tracer?


What's a nubian?
 
2012-02-29 01:13:02 PM
www.dullneon.com

This never ceases to amuse me.
 
2012-02-29 01:13:21 PM
Exit through the Giftshop was pretty good.

Mr. Brainwash (if he's real) is completely insane.
 
2012-02-29 01:14:27 PM

CthulhuCalling: Someone remind me why I should care about his opinion or anyone else's for that matter?


Because it helps one to keep an open mind and allows others to care about your opinions, too?

/like a rock to the head
 
2012-02-29 01:14:58 PM

WhyteRaven74: KatjaMouse: drettworlb.files.wordpress.com

I love that in the case of that piece, the curator of ancient art at the museum had a laugh and had it added to the museum's collection. A sense of humor being a very rare thing in the art world. It's one of the fun things about Banksy, he has a sense of humor.


It will be pretty valuable to if they want to sell it to a private collector too. You know... when they're in some lean times.
 
2012-02-29 01:15:20 PM
The third paragraph comes from his book "wall and piece," so we can assume at least that part of it is legitimate.
 
2012-02-29 01:17:34 PM

KatjaMouse: Swoop1809: How does Banksy make money?

He's actually sold work legitimately.


Well, that validates him as an artist then.
 
2012-02-29 01:17:43 PM

moothemagiccow: DeltaPunch: But I *detest* advertisement... I think it's actually a problem with me. Ads are just about the only thing on the planet that both offend me and make me incredibly uncomfortable.

I feel this way when I'm watching tv or looking at the internet, but I moved to an area where signs and billboards are basically banned and it's 1) boring and 2) annoying when you want to find a place.


Dublin Ohio?
 
2012-02-29 01:17:56 PM

RocketRod: CthulhuCalling: Someone remind me why I should care about his opinion or anyone else's for that matter?

Because it helps one to keep an open mind and allows others to care about your opinions, too?

/like a rock to the head


Again, why should I care about what this person said?
 
2012-02-29 01:19:00 PM

Mirrorz: Exit through the Giftshop was pretty good.

Mr. Brainwash (if he's real) is completely insane.


I'm of the theory that it was completely fictionalized and brilliantly manipulated by Banksy. So following around the artists and the various gallery showings were all true. I just don't know if I could really believe that Mr. Brainwash was all that genuine as the film started wrapping up.

/One of the best opening credits I've ever seen for a movie

I used to encourage everyone I knew to make art; I don't do that so much anymore.
You bet I lolled at that.
 
2012-02-29 01:19:33 PM
I don't need to like him or his art to know the sentiment of this resonates with me. In fact, I could hate his art and consider him a douche, and it would still resonate with me.
 
2012-02-29 01:21:41 PM

Gelatinous: Since when does legitimate criticism come only from a peer or similarly accomplished person? That's not how it works.


Saying someone sucks, without articulating why they suck, is not criticism.

KatjaMouse: It will be pretty valuable to if they want to sell it to a private collector too. You know... when they're in some lean times.


That is always hard for museums to do. Especially European museums. Of course, they all have so much art the public never sees and they make no attempt to put it online either, which is kind of irksome. Funny thing is, Banksy doesn't like art museums either and I totally get why he doesn't. And I agree.
 
2012-02-29 01:22:23 PM
The statement, standing alone, makes a tremendous amount of sense.
 
2012-02-29 01:23:14 PM

annitabonghit: DeltaPunch: I'm certainly not into defacing private property.

But I think Banksy's work is awesome.

But his views are a little crazy.

But I *detest* advertisement... I think it's actually a problem with me. Ads are just about the only thing on the planet that both offend me and make me incredibly uncomfortable.

I think Banksy touched upon the very thing I hate about ads, so I got to give him credit for that.

Lumpmoose: If an ad is truly in a public space, petition your local government to ban ads in specific public spaces.

Can we petition government to remove all advertising from TV, internet, and all public spaces, everywhere, for eternity?


Sure, but good luck getting it past a 1st amendment challenge in the United States.


Of course.

Most people like to say "we have all that violence and gore on TV, but we can't show a naked breast". I'd like to take it futher: we have "family values" people trying to censor profanity and nudity -- which don't offend in me the least -- yet I have to sit through TV commercials where some ditzy housewife is bouncing around her kitchen with the latest brand of Sani-Clean Kitchen Wipes, which I find infinitely more offensive, not just to my intellect but also to all generations of humankind.

/go figure
 
2012-02-29 01:24:11 PM

Mishno: If he's doing it to someone else's property without the owner's permision, he's a vandal. Him saying that an ad on a bus is "his" to "modify" is a statement that illustrates his being full of shiat. It's not his ad and it's not his bus. If he paints on it he's as much of a vandal as any street thug "tagger".


A lot of times his vandalism is funny and clever, but it is still vandalism.


WhyteRaven74: Actual Farking: Banksy is, and always has been, completely full of shiat.

Care to point out how he's full of shiat?


There is the above mentions problems with his views on property and what people should be allowed to do with it (apparently not advertise or you own it). I also have a problem with his definition of an open air prison.
 
2012-02-29 01:24:20 PM

KatjaMouse: Mirrorz: Exit through the Giftshop was pretty good.

Mr. Brainwash (if he's real) is completely insane.

I'm of the theory that it was completely fictionalized and brilliantly manipulated by Banksy. So following around the artists and the various gallery showings were all true. I just don't know if I could really believe that Mr. Brainwash was all that genuine as the film started wrapping up.

/One of the best opening credits I've ever seen for a movie

I used to encourage everyone I knew to make art; I don't do that so much anymore.
You bet I lolled at that.


Pretty much this. ETTGS was really a head-trip of a film, trying to figure out what was "real" and what was "put on," so to speak. I thought it was really well done, as a piece of art, regardless of what was true or false about it.
 
2012-02-29 01:24:23 PM

moothemagiccow: DeltaPunch: But I *detest* advertisement... I think it's actually a problem with me. Ads are just about the only thing on the planet that both offend me and make me incredibly uncomfortable.

I feel this way when I'm watching tv or looking at the internet, but I moved to an area where signs and billboards are basically banned and it's 1) boring and 2) annoying when you want to find a place.


Sounds like they swung too far in the right direction. Having the name of the business on a sign out front is helpful. It's all the rest that's mostly useless crap.
 
2012-02-29 01:24:41 PM
Yes, lets get rid of all advertising. And when every webpage becomes pay-per-view just to afford the cost of operating, and those city busses, no longer littered with inconvenient advertising, raise their charges, your cable bill becomes subscriber based, including local news, we'll all be much happier, not being afronted with the images of things that we may or may not be interested in buying. This is your typical BS argument not based in any form of reality.

/Money makes the world go round
//advertising makes money
 
2012-02-29 01:25:30 PM

WhyteRaven74: Saying someone sucks, without articulating why they suck, is not criticism.


HEYYYYY whoa, this is Fark, we can't have any of that kind of sensibility round here, mister!
 
2012-02-29 01:25:58 PM
He's an artist.

His art is very well known.

Some of it makes good points.

Some of it doesn't.

Some people think it's great.

Some people think it's shiat.

It's all subjective because it's art.

/I think I covered all the bases here.
 
2012-02-29 01:27:06 PM
"These art Galleries are just trophy cabinets for a handful of millionaires. The public never has any real say in what art they see"
 
2012-02-29 01:27:39 PM

WhyteRaven74: [www.dullneon.com image 520x340]

This never ceases to amuse me.


Had that one as a desktop for a while at my old job.
 
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