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(KSAT San Antonio)   If you're raped, be sure to tell the police, so that they can PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE   (ksat.com) divider line 358
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2012-02-29 09:55:53 AM  
First rule of Post Rape Rape Fight Club....
 
2012-02-29 09:56:43 AM  

Gunther: Why would a cop decide to punch a severely injured (enough to have been rendered unconscious for several hours) and "not combative or aggressive" woman in the face?


when in doubt, blame the person with the broken face
 
2012-02-29 09:57:43 AM  

KiplingKat872: It happens in every thread about rape on Fark. Every. Single. One.


See also: Roman Polansky, Jerry Sanduski, etc. There have been many, many examples of Fark coming to the consensus that a rapist is a guilty piece of shiat and his victims are telling the truth. Just because we don't do it 100% of the time doesn't mean we're being thoughtless misogynists. You're the one who thoughtlessly arrives at a guilty conclusion. YOU EVEN ADMITTED THIS EARLIER IN THE THREAD.
 
2012-02-29 10:03:34 AM  
I don't believe it. Cop shouldn't have punched her hard enough to give her a black eye let alone fracture her skull, but she probably made up the rape claim.
 
2012-02-29 10:04:26 AM  

FraggleStickCar: the vague and confusing article automatically makes the vast majority of posters assume that she must be lying


No, our life experience leads us to believe she's lying, and the article doesn't do anything to disprove that. What it's not vague about (knocked unconscious, wakes up four hours later totally fine) is either impossible or highly unlikely. Her skull would be severely fractured. She'd still be hospitalized, drifting in and out of consciousness.

The part where she got jacked in the face is the believable part, cops are assholes and she probably said something really farked up (also not out of line with my experience) and the cop was like "fark it, I'm a cop" and punched her out.
 
2012-02-29 10:05:00 AM  

Tommy Moo: KiplingKat872: It happens in every thread about rape on Fark. Every. Single. One.

See also: Roman Polansky, Jerry Sanduski, etc. There have been many, many examples of Fark coming to the consensus that a rapist is a guilty piece of shiat and his victims are telling the truth. Just because we don't do it 100% of the time doesn't mean we're being thoughtless misogynists. You're the one who thoughtlessly arrives at a guilty conclusion. YOU EVEN ADMITTED THIS EARLIER IN THE THREAD.


She also admitted it in the last rape thread I followed her antics in.
 
2012-02-29 10:05:14 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: So lemme get this straight, it's a complicated, or partial, or just plain wacky story... so the chick automatically is either not sane, or lying. The story is partially unintelligible (for whatever reason) so she's no longer a victim. Got it.


Careful calling it "wacky", KiplingKat872 might chide you for not taking it seriously enough.
 
2012-02-29 10:06:34 AM  

Tommy Moo: See also: Roman Polansky, Jerry Sanduski, etc. There have been many, many examples of Fark coming to the consensus that a rapist is a guilty piece of shiat and his victims are telling the truth.


Roman polansky admitted to drugging and sex.

Jerry has been accused by a number of boys.

Anyone who thinks those two are innocent are scum.
 
2012-02-29 10:06:39 AM  

Tommy Moo: KiplingKat872: freewill: KiplingKat872: But a significant number of people here are ready to condemn her (not the rapists, they're focus is not even the cop who admitted to hitting her) on a third hand report in the media.

I'm not going to disagree that that happens in plenty of cases, but in this case, people are ready to condemn her because she is lying through her teeth. She didn't even have the decency to come up with one that would take a few minutes to unravel.

It happens in every thread about rape on Fark. Every. Single. One.

All right, here you go:

Story (new window)

That right there is a victim who was clearly telling the truth and a piece of shiat perp who is going to jail, getting exactly what he deserves. Are you happy with this? Everyone in the thread please read this story and comment on it. Let KiplingKat872 know whether or not you automatically side with the accuser and think the victim is lying every single time there is a rape case discussed on Fark.


Horrible story, can't believe he only got 6 years, should have got life.
 
2012-02-29 10:07:50 AM  

FraggleStickCar: The problem as I see it here is not so much that her claiming rape makes her unassailable, but rather that the vague and confusing article automatically makes the vast majority of posters assume that she must be lying.


Oh, sure, blame the article, and not the person interviewed for it.

The article is the victim, here.
 
2012-02-29 10:08:12 AM  
Girl is all bloody, clothes torn, she goes in to a police station and says to the officer "GRAPE GRAPE GRAPE".

Officer says "Ma'am, I think you mean RAPE".

Girl says "no officer, there were a BUNCH of them".
 
2012-02-29 10:08:48 AM  

proteus_b: Gunther: Why would a cop decide to punch a severely injured (enough to have been rendered unconscious for several hours) and "not combative or aggressive" woman in the face?

when in doubt, blame the person with the broken face


The point of my post was that this story is filled with inconsistencies, and those are either due to shiatty journalism or lying... So you decide to quote that one sentence out-of-context so you can accuse me of victim-blaming. How constructive of you.

I've already said that the cop is clearly a dick, but even the most dickish of people don't just randomly punch severely injured women for no reason and then brag about it to nurses - for one thing, you're unlikely to pass even Texas's standards for police if you're that obviously unbalanced.
 
2012-02-29 10:09:33 AM  

TenJed_77: Horrible story, can't believe he only got 6 years, should have got life


I would hope that is at least one thing Fark can agree on. You rape a kid you get more than 6 years.
 
2012-02-29 10:13:07 AM  

serial_crusher: She said she walked back to her apartment and grabbed some clothes.
ok, so presumably she put some of the clothes on...

When officers arrived, Gibson said she was hiding in a closet naked. She said the officers ordered her to leave the closet.
So um, how did she end up naked in the closet again?

My money's on "she's crazy and wanted to make her boyfriend jealous by banging two other dudes, made up the rape allegations when that didn't work out so well." Not saying that alone is justification for hitting her in the face, but I sure as hell wish there had been video cameras there while it was going down.


That is the way I read it too.
 
2012-02-29 10:14:38 AM  
In another twist to this plot, the victim tell a news crew in a video that after she got raped, "she went to her boyfriend's northwest-side home to look for her daughter" WTH? She did not know where her daughter was??? Her side of this story is starting to stink to me. I cant justify the officer punching her lights out for resisting arrest....could he have just tased her like in the Vegas PD in The Hangover????

Link (new window)
 
2012-02-29 10:16:36 AM  

liam76: TenJed_77: Horrible story, can't believe he only got 6 years, should have got life

I would hope that is at least one thing Fark can agree on. You rape a kid you get more than 6 years.


Depending on the state, you can get up to 16 years.
 
2012-02-29 10:16:55 AM  
Bottom freaking line...it doesn't matter if she's lying about the rape. There is no reason a naked girl refusing to leave a closet should suffer a fractured freaking eye socket at the hands of a cop that was bragging about it according to an unconcerned 3rd party!!!!!

Wether she was raped or not has nothing to do with HER FRACTURED EYE SOCKET! A a good for nothing bully with a badge bragging about it.

Hey Cops!!! If you want the "cop bashing" to end, stop protecting the bad eggs in your profession and instead drum them outta the force.
 
2012-02-29 10:18:10 AM  
Punching an bragging about it = bad/needs a good, unpaid suspension

Acting all crazy and refusing to obey commands from the police = you're going to be treated like a criminal.

Why ask for a female officer? She's going to also be pissed off that you won't leave the closet of the house you aren't welcome to be in....

If he doesn't want you there, he's not your boyfriend. If the cops tell you to do something, then do it. If you spend a night out whoring around to make your boyfriend jealous, expect him to be a bit upset about it.
 
2012-02-29 10:19:34 AM  

liam76: TenJed_77: Horrible story, can't believe he only got 6 years, should have got life

I would hope that is at least one thing Fark can agree on. You rape a kid you get more than 6 years.




I disagree. When you rape a kid, you should not live anymore.
 
2012-02-29 10:20:13 AM  

calbert: AverageAmericanGuy: Lots of "blame the victim" going on in this thread.

the cop shouldn't be blamed for this


I say we blame the cop for the rape.
 
2012-02-29 10:20:39 AM  

serial_crusher: She said she walked back to her apartment and grabbed some clothes.
ok, so presumably she put some of the clothes on...

When officers arrived, Gibson said she was hiding in a closet naked. She said the officers ordered her to leave the closet.
So um, how did she end up naked in the closet again?

My money's on "she's crazy and wanted to make her boyfriend jealous by banging two other dudes, made up the rape allegations when that didn't work out so well." Not saying that alone is justification for hitting her in the face, but I sure as hell wish there had been video cameras there while it was going down.


Also, wouldn't being knocked out for several hours result in serious brain damage/possible coma?
 
2012-02-29 10:23:10 AM  

Tommy Moo: KiplingKat872: It happens in every thread about rape on Fark. Every. Single. One.

See also: Roman Polansky, Jerry Sanduski, etc. There have been many, many examples of Fark coming to the consensus that a rapist is a guilty piece of shiat and his victims are telling the truth. Just because we don't do it 100% of the time doesn't mean we're being thoughtless misogynists. You're the one who thoughtlessly arrives at a guilty conclusion. YOU EVEN ADMITTED THIS EARLIER IN THE THREAD.


Ding ding ding!!!

This is not exactly open and shut case for the woman claiming rape. Lots of inconsistencies in the story...and because I've brought that up, I'm a rapist-supreme.
 
2012-02-29 10:23:14 AM  

crispyone: Bottom freaking line...it doesn't matter if she's lying about the rape. There is no reason a naked girl refusing to leave a closet should suffer a fractured freaking eye socket at the hands of a cop that was bragging about it according to an unconcerned 3rd party!!!!!

Wether she was raped or not has nothing to do with HER FRACTURED EYE SOCKET! A a good for nothing bully with a badge bragging about it.

Hey Cops!!! If you want the "cop bashing" to end, stop protecting the bad eggs in your profession and instead drum them outta the force.




Many do.... but you just don't see it on the news. They only like to report on the "exciting" stories. Good cops do their jobs without taking it personally... it's just a job. And they generally will not tolerate the bad ones for too long.
 
2012-02-29 10:24:26 AM  
don't make me tell you again.
 
2012-02-29 10:25:27 AM  
Sounds like the biatch got what she deserved 3 times that night!

Raep / GTFO / Punch in the Face (justified because she refused to show tits)

Ultimate COMBO
 
2012-02-29 10:25:40 AM  

tukatz: you should not live anymore.


Well that is more than 6 years, in my humble opinion.
 
2012-02-29 10:26:51 AM  

tukatz: liam76: TenJed_77: Horrible story, can't believe he only got 6 years, should have got life

I would hope that is at least one thing Fark can agree on. You rape a kid you get more than 6 years.



I disagree. When you rape a kid, you should not live anymore.


I'm not one for extreme justice or capital punishment, but:

THIS

There is no rehabilitation. There is no penance. String em' up.
 
2012-02-29 10:26:52 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Lots of "blame the victim" going on in this thread.


You're right. Way too much hate for the guy who called the cops after some crazy chick broke into his house and got naked in his closet.
 
2012-02-29 10:29:18 AM  
serial_crusher...

So um, how did she end up naked in the closet again?

My money's on "she's crazy and...

Oh well then that totally justifies punching her in the face so many times it breaks her orbital socket.
 
2012-02-29 10:33:07 AM  

Greek: Gunther: serial_crusher: My money's on "she's crazy

Yup.

AverageAmericanGuy: Lots of "blame the victim" going on in this thread.

She's claiming that she was raped, then was knocked unconscious for several hours, then woke up in a landromat half a mile from her apartment, then walked home naked, got dressed, went to her boyfriends' place, who then called the cops on her for not calling him for a single night, and then the cops showed up and punched her in the face. While she was naked and hiding in a closet.

Does that SERIOUSLY sound like a likely chain of events? Or does it sound like the sort of bullshiat a crazy person would make up to justify acting crazy?

Or... And not saying her story seems off... but there's a possible explanation. Girl gets bashed in the head and knocked out. While knocked out, girl gets drugged (she wouldn't know this) and raped, then left naked at laundromat. The rest of the events unfold while she's still recovering from whatever drug was given to her. Now you have a drugged woman who's just had the most horrible night one can imagine, including the POS boyfriend being a POS, and who knows WHAT she might do in her state.


Yeah, that is a credible theory. I guess even without drugs the head trauma might cause naked-in-the-closet levels of craziness.
 
2012-02-29 10:33:32 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Lots of "blame the victim" going on in this thread.


Sometimes the victim isn't. Fortunately what we do here changes nothing.
 
2012-02-29 10:34:46 AM  

OnlyM3: serial_crusher...

So um, how did she end up naked in the closet again?

My money's on "she's crazy and...
Oh well then that totally justifies punching her in the face so many times it breaks her orbital socket.


Who says it took more than one?
 
2012-02-29 10:37:48 AM  

vegasj: I bet I know what happened...

1. she went out w/o her boyfriend & got drunk with some other guys.
2. under her drunk spell she banged a group of them
3. felt guilty about it & went to her boyfriend's once she started sobering up
4. he's no dummy, wasn't believing her BS... (it probably has happened before)
5. to "persuade" him she used the only thing she knows might work... her VAG
6. got nakid to try & sucker her BF back into her VAG spell
7. BF said, nu uhn... honey badger doesn't play that shiat... calls cops
8. she hides from cops and refuses to come out so they resulted in using force

9. makes up the whole rape story to put her into a more victim's role.

Check you local listings... this may be on Lifetime soon


Here's my issue with that story. How does the she know she does not now have herpes or HIV? Did she think he wouldn't think of that? I dunno, all seems fishy.
 
2012-02-29 10:38:19 AM  

OnlyM3: serial_crusher...

So um, how did she end up naked in the closet again?

My money's on "she's crazy and...
Oh well then that totally justifies punching her in the face so many times it breaks her orbital socket.


It's time for another rousing game of "pretend people said things they didn't"! Thanks for playing everybody.

Crazy people do frequently deserve to be punched though. Especially when they're naked in some dude's closet and refusing to leave. I'm not enough of a punching expert to determine how hard or how many punches are justified in a case like that though.
 
2012-02-29 10:40:06 AM  

serial_crusher: Crazy people do frequently deserve to be punched though. Especially when they're naked in some dude's closet and refusing to leave. I'm not enough of a punching expert to determine how hard or how many punches are justified in a case like that though.


I wonder if the boyfriend lives in a castle law state?
 
2012-02-29 10:41:26 AM  
the cop should have whipped out his weener and shook it at her like he was offering a sugar cube to a horse.
 
2012-02-29 10:43:28 AM  

sprawl15: serial_crusher: Crazy people do frequently deserve to be punched though. Especially when they're naked in some dude's closet and refusing to leave. I'm not enough of a punching expert to determine how hard or how many punches are justified in a case like that though.

I wonder if the boyfriend lives in a castle law state?


FTFA: San Antonio Police Department
 
2012-02-29 10:44:07 AM  

Theaetetus: 9beers: This story makes no farking sense. That being the case, lets just blame the cop victim and be done with it.

You forgot, this is Fark.


Which most definitely leads us to the obvious conclusion...the cops raped her.
 
2012-02-29 10:44:08 AM  

sprawl15: serial_crusher: Crazy people do frequently deserve to be punched though. Especially when they're naked in some dude's closet and refusing to leave. I'm not enough of a punching expert to determine how hard or how many punches are justified in a case like that though.

I wonder if the boyfriend lives in a castle law state?


Kind of irrelevant if police are the ones doing the punching. However TX is a castle law state, but it doesn't really apply in this situation if he let her in willingly. However IANAL so take my view with a grain of salt.
 
2012-02-29 10:45:34 AM  

rockforever: It doesn't matter if shhe e was raped or not, it doesn't matter what actually happened. There is no possible story that would necessitate the cop punching her in the face.


Wrong, either because of drink or drugs or head injury or emotional breakdown due to an assault she could have become combative enough to require physical subduing and in the close confines of a closet any of the pepper spray or tazer options may not have been available.

What isn't explainable and calls into serious question this cops judgement about the necessity of force is the fact that he seemed proud of this action and was apparently bragging about it afterwards according to a reliable eyewitness.

And reliable witnesses is the problem here. The bizzarre nature of her other behaviours that night make her claim that she wasn't being combative or abnormal in the closet very suspect. The fact that this cop found his actions something to enjoy and be proud of call in to question his ability to judge what level of force to use in a situation. No matter what the ultimate story with this girl the cop needs not to be a cop
 
2012-02-29 10:47:05 AM  

serial_crusher: sprawl15: serial_crusher: Crazy people do frequently deserve to be punched though. Especially when they're naked in some dude's closet and refusing to leave. I'm not enough of a punching expert to determine how hard or how many punches are justified in a case like that though.

I wonder if the boyfriend lives in a castle law state?

FTFA: San Antonio Police Department


mcbain.jpg
 
2012-02-29 10:49:59 AM  

sprawl15: serial_crusher: sprawl15: serial_crusher: Crazy people do frequently deserve to be punched though. Especially when they're naked in some dude's closet and refusing to leave. I'm not enough of a punching expert to determine how hard or how many punches are justified in a case like that though.

I wonder if the boyfriend lives in a castle law state?

FTFA: San Antonio Police Department

mcbain.jpg


Well it was a pretty shiatty joke then, and not in the "That's just bad taste" sense.
 
2012-02-29 10:52:15 AM  
As I am sure others have pointed out there are some issues with the story as it is reported.

1) two men in a truck pull up and one of them knocks her on the back of the head and she is out for presumably several hours.

I am a little unclear on the sequence of events for the truck kidnapping part. At least one would have to get out of the truck to hit her on the back of the head and it is somewhat difficult to imagine her allowing a stranger to get to the back of her to deliver such a blow. Most people would probably adjust their position to avoid losing sight of either.

The second part where she is knocked out for several hours is difficult to believe as such a blow would be life threatening. Waking up with sufficient cognizance to walk home or do anything requiring any sort of thinking is unlikely.

2) Gibson said she woke up in a laundry facility about a half-mile from her apartment complex. She said she walked back to her apartment and grabbed some clothes.

I am inclined to think that a laundry facility that is open at 4 in the morning(unless they broke into dump her there which leaves its own set of complications) probably has at least the owner/operator in it. I would bet it would be difficult to miss a naked woman being dragged in.

It would seem that she walked a half mile naked which even at 4 am in the morning would probably have some witnesses but even if it was entirely without any other people there is still the matter of how someone suffering from a severe blow to the head manages to do this.

So she arrives at her apartment and gets her clothes and presumably puts them on and then goes to her boyfriends apartment and has an argument with him. She then strips off her clothes and hides in the closet and the police arrive.

Now it is possible that she merely grabbed her clothes when she stopped at her apartment rather than put them on but that seems unlikely. So she probably had them on then took them off while in the closet.

With the exception of the police man using excessive force which is totally believable, this story seems a little bit fishy.
 
2012-02-29 10:53:50 AM  

Digitalstrange: And reliable witnesses is the problem here. The bizzarre nature of her other behaviours that night make her claim that she wasn't being combative or abnormal in the closet very suspect.


Drama continually surrounds people like this. I'm surprised they didn't list her police record.
 
2012-02-29 10:55:23 AM  

redmid17: sprawl15: serial_crusher: sprawl15: serial_crusher: Crazy people do frequently deserve to be punched though. Especially when they're naked in some dude's closet and refusing to leave. I'm not enough of a punching expert to determine how hard or how many punches are justified in a case like that though.

I wonder if the boyfriend lives in a castle law state?

FTFA: San Antonio Police Department

mcbain.jpg

Well it was a pretty shiatty joke then, and not in the "That's just bad taste" sense.


img51.imageshack.us
 
2012-02-29 11:01:13 AM  

sprawl15: redmid17: sprawl15: serial_crusher: sprawl15: serial_crusher: Crazy people do frequently deserve to be punched though. Especially when they're naked in some dude's closet and refusing to leave. I'm not enough of a punching expert to determine how hard or how many punches are justified in a case like that though.

I wonder if the boyfriend lives in a castle law state?

FTFA: San Antonio Police Department

mcbain.jpg

Well it was a pretty shiatty joke then, and not in the "That's just bad taste" sense.

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journeymangm.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-02-29 11:06:07 AM  
Where did this chick's clothes keep going? She get's knocked out in an alley and they're gone. I get that one. Then she went home, dressed, went to her abusive boyfriend's place, got in an argument, locked herself in a closet and her clothes were gone again?

Sounds like a psycho drama queen.
 
2012-02-29 11:24:50 AM  

KiplingKat872: But a significant number of people here are ready to condemn her (not the rapists, they're focus is not even the cop who admitted to hitting her) on a third hand report in the media.


I don't know the facts of the matter, but there's enough inconsistencies in the story to make me cautious of judging the cops, the "two guys", her boyfriend, or the "victim."

I will, however say this: If she lied about being raped, she deserved to have the snot beaten out of her by the police.
 
2012-02-29 11:28:29 AM  

Gergesa: I am inclined to think that a laundry facility that is open at 4 in the morning(unless they broke into dump her there which leaves its own set of complications) probably has at least the owner/operator in it.


That doesn't seem likely to me. Coin-operated laundry machines don't require a lot of babysitting. The owner probably just comes by a few times a day to check up on the place, and probably not in the middle of the night.
 
2012-02-29 11:32:51 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: Weird points of the story:

1) She gets hit on the back of the head and wakes up naked 4 in the morning...after several hours without clothes and cellphone. Which is weird, because if you are knocked out for that long, you are looking at sever head trauma or even death.

2) She goes to her apartment to get clothes (Not sure how she got in without keys, but might have had spare set somewhere) Then goes to boyfriend.

3) They get into an argument- he calls police

4) She's naked in the closet.

How the hell did she get naked again? Why did she get naked again?


It's possible the article is poorly written. It says she went to her apartment to get clothes, the realized she didn't have keys. At which point she may have gone to her boyfriends and tried to get clothes there, while still naked.
 
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