HOLA NAPOLITANO!

PlatypusPuke: If doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results is the definition of insanity, then what should we call the war on drugs?

Proof that the results that are ostensibly hoped for are a farce, while the real results are exactly what was intended. Minus some useful idiots that really are insane.

soup: Hopefully the ballot measures calling for the end of marijuana prohibition in Washington state and Colorado pass in November. Maybe it'll be the tipping point towards something big.

I hear that

This fly's in the face of anything resembling common sense and decency.

signaljammer: Don't you guys have any friends from rural Mexico? They port the water on their backs for miles. Typically ambient water supplies are very poor. This is outdoor stuff, grown by peasants. When circumstances are better they do grow good weed. The Mexican state of Mich. was producing stuff to rival the 'bo, back in the seventies.

The herb being produced today is far superior and stronger than anything they had back in the 70s

This doc gives a good explanation why


Basically, when they started cracking down on weed it forced growers underground where the mad scientists went to work creating new, stronger strains. It always makes me laugh when old hippies tell how great the weed was back in the day. They are soooooo full of it.

Barbecue Bob: Everyones comments referencing how completely farking stupid she and the entire War on Drugs is.
Why then do people keep electing cocksuckers who support these programs and people like Janet?

Fire EVERYONE in Washington DC first. Then clean up the insane mess that's been created with fresh minds.

Yeah, except the problem is you can't fire elected officials. Instead you have a media circus election between a giant douche and a turd sandwich, both of whom pander to the lowest common denominator. You you can't vote for a new drugs policy, because they both say the same thing.

It's going to be really ridiculous if Washington and Colorado legalize the devil weed this election. My uh friend already gets 8ths of really good chronic for thirty bucks and if you want to buy an OZ of it, it will only set you back 180. The past ten years the quality has skyrocketed while the cost has plummeted.

Mugato: Barbecue Bob: Everyones comments referencing how completely farking stupid she and the entire War on Drugs is.
Why then do people keep electing cocksuckers who support these programs and people like Janet?

Because people commenting on Fark don't represent dick as far as a voting block?

and this is bad, how?

Nappy is one of the worst appointments by Obama. But I am so glad it got her out of my state.

Maybe it's not a resounding success, but if we war harder we can make it one?

/and while your at it, bring back prohibition.
/That was bound to work if we had more federal gunmen chipping away at it.

Communist_Manifesto: It's going to be really ridiculous if Washington and Colorado legalize the devil weed this election. My uh friend already gets 8ths of really good chronic for thirty bucks and if you want to buy an OZ of it, it will only set you back 180. The past ten years the quality has skyrocketed while the cost has plummeted.

Hopefully the same thing won't happen to you guys that happen to us in California. A lot of people voted against it because they would lose money (the growers in norcal for example and all cops/lawyers/prison guard union members). Although to be fair it was a very convoluted bill

I haven't been able to visit family in Reynosa in years because of the drug war. Good jerb.

Literally every effort that's ever been described starting with, "The war on..." has been a failure.

Backwards Cornfield Races: Communist_Manifesto: It's going to be really ridiculous if Washington and Colorado legalize the devil weed this election. My uh friend already gets 8ths of really good chronic for thirty bucks and if you want to buy an OZ of it, it will only set you back 180. The past ten years the quality has skyrocketed while the cost has plummeted.

Hopefully the same thing won't happen to you guys that happen to us in California. A lot of people voted against it because they would lose money (the growers in norcal for example and all cops/lawyers/prison guard union members). Although to be fair it was a very convoluted bill

Yeah, Cali's bill was a mess. They asked for too much, including a bunch of business regs that brought a lot of corporate dollars into the fight in opposition. Colorado's bill is very simple and actually stricter than the MMJ law. In fact, there has been a lot of infighting among MJ activists about whether it is too strict. Basically, it would be legal to have 6 plants, one ounce, you must be over 21, and it doesn't touch employers ability to test or fire you if you smoke.

EMCGuy: "you can't vote for a new drugs policy, because they both say the same thing."

They both used to say the same thing about the separation of church and state, the voting rights act, griswold v connecticut, roe v wade and public education too. But a protest movement and some primary challenges later and suddenly the Republicans are partying like it's 1899.

There's no reason the left couldn't do something similar with regards to drug policy, personal liberties, corporate cronyism, deregulation, etc.
There's even a popular protest movement handy who would likely all agree that the left should return to progressive positions on those issues and could support said primary challenges.

I wouldn't want to bet money on how popular those positions would be in general elections. But it's absolutely doable and the evidence is in every news story and thread about the GOP's recent swing into barking moonbat insanity.

Janet Nipples = FAIL

Ow! That was my feelings!:
Yeah, Cali's bill was a mess. They asked for too much, including a bunch of business regs that brought a lot of corporate dollars into the fight in opposition. Colorado's bill is very simple and actually stricter than the MMJ law. In fact, there has been a lot of infighting among MJ activists about whether it is too strict. Basically, it would be legal to have 6 plants, one ounce, you must be over 21, and it doesn't touch employers ability to test or fire you if you smoke.

I agree, it is pretty restrictive. But I also think that full legalization is going to be happen in baby steps. Given what happened in Cali, it probably is best that they aimed low and went with something that a non-smoker might be more agreeable towards.

dywed88: TheJoe03: Oh Democrats, why can't you ever listen to your voters?

Because the Democrats don't really care about their base (which is the major failure of the current Republican party). It is the middle and moderate Republicans that matter. None of the Democratic base is going to ever vote for Mittens or Frothy.

If Romney hadn't gone full retard, I would have listened to an argument for his election. I have no issue with old school moderate "greed as policy" republicans. Ike was a pretty good president, and other than that whole "breaking and entering" thing, so was Nixon.

That he has turned himself into just another freak at the GOP carnival means he'll never get my vote.

She wears underwear with d1ck holes in them ...

The problem is, the Gov't will cover her ass by saying "we confiscated eleventy billion $$ off the street" and call it a win.

Meanwhile, parts of central and south america are going down in flames, tens of thousands of people are incarcerated, our liberties are being eroded under the guise of safety, and no one can stand up and say enough already.

scottydoesntknow: muck4doo: I haven't been able to visit family in Reynosa in years because of the drug war. Good jerb.

Are they safe?

/Seriously wondering
//Sucks man, good luck

They haven't been hurt, but they warn everyone over here that it's too dangerous to go over there now. Cartels have a liking to kidnapping Americans. Another relative in Monterrey who had lived in Reynosa recently did the illegal immigration thing. He had a dentist office there, and his son and daughter were kidnapped. He eventually got his daughter back, but not his son. :(

/Him I don't know very well. Only met him a few times when I was in my teens.

Ctrl + F "lying"
Only one hit?

She's not smoking anything. She's making shiat up to support her political leanings and protect her own job. In short: she's lying her ass off.

unyon: s
THIS. I'm a Canadian that's actually smuggled weed into Mexico. I'm not the only one. I have a friend that spends the winter down there that brings a good supply of hippie crack with him from Yukon Territory each year. We should probably just be bringing Canadian seed stock to improve the local growing quality.

FYI don't ask for hippie crack in the states unless you want some nitrous.

Would like to question this statement

2+2=5

BurnShrike: Ctrl + F "lying"
Only one hit?

She's not smoking anything. She's making shiat up to support her political leanings and protect her own job. In short: she's lying her ass off.

I'm not convinced that she is actually lying. She very likely believes every word she's saying. Out of touch, crazy, paid off, sadistic, or just plain wrong? I'd believe those.

FARK Janet Napolitano!

homegrown!

Who on Earth smokes Mexican "Ditch Weed"? If you bust open a key of that there's all kinds of stuff in it. Bugs, dirt, Mold, stems, and who knows what else.

Buffet: FARK Janet Napolitano!

Ohdeargodno.

scottydoesntknow: It's all about profits and they get the maximum profits off the shiattiest supply.

So the anti-establishment hippy movement icon is another sh*tty corporate cash cow soaked in blood. Far out, man.

unyon:
THIS. I'm a Canadian that's actually smuggled weed into Mexico. I'm not the only one. I have a friend that spends the winter down there that brings a good supply of hippie crack with him from Yukon Territory each year. We should probably just be bringing Canadian seed stock to improve the local growing quality.

God bless you, Canadian brother. I'm a Seattle native that is happy we have such wonderful and generous norther neighbors. I spent six years in San Diego, and while awesome, the drugs (except for the acid) sucked. "This is a bag of rocks and sticks," and also "you pay for 'shrooms here?" can sum up the pharmaceutics down there.

We who are not afraid to explore the dark underbelly of the interwebs know the cartels can give any other terrorist group lessons.
The money trail must lead to the A-holes who continue this insanity.

martid4: I can't think of one girl named Janet that I like.

Dammit!

STRYPERSWINE: She's the first Democrat I ever voted for. Her opponent was everything that sucks about the GOP so I couldn't vote for him. She was a good governor. She's been a laughable disaster of a Homeland Security director. Jan Brewer is better.

She may have been a decent governor in terms actual governing, but she has always been themworst kind of politician. An attention-whoring, bullying asshole (she has the distinction of being the only woman I would term an asshole).

Illustrative case: She wanted to rename a local mountain after a soldier killed in Iraq - OK, a little pandering (said mountain had an "offensive" native american name, and the soldier killed was from a local tribe), but whatever. The board in charge of geographic names informed her that the naming rules said that you could not name a geographic place after person until they had been deceased a certain number of years (to ensure thay they actually had the sufficient historical signifigance). She said she wanted it changed anyway, but the board voted to NOT change the name. She sent what can only be described as "henchmen" to show up at board members HOUSES to storng arm them in to either changing their vote, or leaving the board (which some did). She eventually got her way.

She also loved showing up at things like prison riots, wildfires, and even a gasoline pipeline break to hold press conferences and act like she persona
Ly was in charge of getting things done.

Piece of work, that one, glad she's Oama's problem now.

do you really think that legalizing the weed will correct everything? the problem for us (i'm from Monterrey, and still living here) is not the drugs, nor the executions... is the kidnappings and extortions, we can't have the relaxed live we had 4 years a go, we can't open a new business for fear of attracting unwanted attention, we can't have a decent car (i'm not talking bmw, or audi, i'm talking a rav4 or a crv for my wife) for fear that something happens to her...

Sure, if the drugs are legalized, the narcos will see their profits lower, but they will want to recover that profits with more kidnappings, and extortions and gun hiring. If you ask us mexicans, the majority will tell you that they support the war on drugs, with higher percent in the states with more narco problems.

bikerbob: Who on Earth smokes Mexican "Ditch Weed"?


Well, the world needs ditch smokers too.

ObscureNameHere: The real question for her is: will Concrete Blonde ever re-unite?

And we're done here.

mvpmiguel:
Sure, if the drugs are legalized, the narcos will see their profits lower, but they will want to recover that profits with more kidnappings, and extortions and gun hiring. If you ask us mexicans, the majority will tell you that they support the war on drugs, with higher percent in the states with more narco problems.

It wouldn't lower profits, it would eliminate them. There would be absolutely 0 market for Mexican gang drugs if I can simply walk down to 7-11 and pick myself up half an ounce of ganja I know is produced in a safe, clean, and regulated environment.

Legalization means there is no more illegal drug trade, so illegal drug traders have to find something else to do.

Oh really Janet?

15 tons of pure meth seized at Mexican ranch. Estimated value of $4 billion. Approximately 13 million doses. (new window)

Janet worried about the border and the drug violence when she was governor of Arizona. Then she got what she wanted and left. Thanks Janet. And thanks to all the users who keep the cartels flush.

Rent Party: Legalization means there is no more illegal drug trade, so illegal drug traders have to find something else to do.

It's that "something else to do" that has him worried. He ain't wrong about it either.

muck4doo: Rent Party: Legalization means there is no more illegal drug trade, so illegal drug traders have to find something else to do.

It's that "something else to do" that has him worried. He ain't wrong about it either.

Do you honestly think that kidnapping is going to generate the kinds of money that the drug trade makes now?

Hey, we can't sell crappy pot to Americans any more, lets see if Joe the Tourist is willing to cough up a million dollars to get his wife back!"

You think that's sustainable? Really?

Rent Party: mvpmiguel:
Sure, if the drugs are legalized, the narcos will see their profits lower, but they will want to recover that profits with more kidnappings, and extortions and gun hiring. If you ask us mexicans, the majority will tell you that they support the war on drugs, with higher percent in the states with more narco problems.

It wouldn't lower profits, it would eliminate them. There would be absolutely 0 market for Mexican gang drugs if I can simply walk down to 7-11 and pick myself up half an ounce of ganja I know is produced in a safe, clean, and regulated environment.

Legalization means there is no more illegal drug trade, so illegal drug traders have to find something else to do.

you didn't understand my post... drugs aren't the only way for cartels to get money (undoubtly, it is the biggest). My state is infested with zetas, who are not a big cartel in means of drug trade, but they get a big amount of money with kidnappings, extortions, stolen cars, gun hiring, smuggling people... if you cut the drug money, they will do the other, and more dangerous to normal people business, they won't get legal jobs once the drugs are legalized

Realize: legalize.

Rent Party: mvpmiguel:
Sure, if the drugs are legalized, the narcos will see their profits lower, but they will want to recover that profits with more kidnappings, and extortions and gun hiring. If you ask us mexicans, the majority will tell you that they support the war on drugs, with higher percent in the states with more narco problems.

It wouldn't lower profits, it would eliminate them. There would be absolutely 0 market for Mexican gang drugs if I can simply walk down to 7-11 and pick myself up half an ounce of ganja I know is produced in a safe, clean, and regulated environment.

Legalization means there is no more illegal drug trade, so illegal drug traders have to find something else to do.

They will always have meth to fall back on.