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(CNN)   Will the Mormons in Mesa and millionaires in Michigan help Romney regain status as the frontrunner? Can Santorum win in a Romney stronghold? Is Newt still in the race? Is RON PAUL still alive? Your Arizona and Michigan primary discussion thread   (cnn.com ) divider line
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2012-02-28 08:59:34 AM  
"Hello, I'm Leonard Nimoy. The following tale of republican primaries is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is no."
 
2012-02-28 09:12:06 AM  

Jmast7: "Hello, I'm Leonard Nimoy. The following tale of republican primaries is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is no."


Everything's true, especially the lies.
 
2012-02-28 09:18:53 AM  

Jmast7: "Hello, I'm Leonard Nimoy. The following tale of republican primaries is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is no."


Keep watching the poles. I mean, polls.
 
2012-02-28 09:19:52 AM  
Should be an interesting night tonight... because even if Romney wins (which Nate Silver gives him 4/5 odds) it is going to be Pyrrhic victory. Romney (and his SuperPACs) have had to outspend Santorum by an order of magnitude in order to win it, but he will not win enough delegates to put him far enough ahead for to create a buffer for Super Tuesday (which Santorum looks to be on the path to win).
 
2012-02-28 09:34:10 AM  
*yawn*
 
2012-02-28 10:03:55 AM  
RON PAUL IS NOT DEAD!
 
2012-02-28 10:17:38 AM  
Arizona looks to be easily Romney's unless something strange happens.

Michigan will be interesting to watch, I am suspecting something basically similar to Iowa in closeness, we might not even have a "definite" winner when most people go to sleep tonight.
 
2012-02-28 10:44:18 AM  

Amos Quito: RON PAUL IS NOT DEAD!



Just braindead.

Also, this race is getting frothy. I want Santorum to win so badly.
 
2012-02-28 11:22:10 AM  

logistic: Also, this race is getting frothy. I want Santorum to win so badly.


Same here... mostly just so I can see the stand-in symbol is that Garry Trudeau chooses for him in Doonesbury.
 
2012-02-28 11:45:08 AM  
Alas, that NC is so late in the primary season. It's almost like we don't matter.

/voting RON PAUL in hopes of a floor fight
 
2012-02-28 11:46:09 AM  

Amos Quito: RON PAUL IS NOT DEAD!


Not dead, just irrelevant.
 
2012-02-28 11:47:21 AM  
I'm rooting for whatever result will lead us to a brokered convention for the GOP. Then the party can nominate some person who hasn't spent a dime on the race so far. I mean, how amazing would it be to get to the convention without a candidate and have the party pick Pawlenty or Hunstman or some other random person and send Romney/Santorum/Gingrich/Paul out to pasture?
 
2012-02-28 11:49:19 AM  

miss diminutive: Keep watching the poles. I mean, polls.


Especially the religious Vatican followers.
 
2012-02-28 11:49:35 AM  

Code_Archeologist: logistic: Also, this race is getting frothy. I want Santorum to win so badly.

Same here... mostly just so I can see the stand-in symbol is that Garry Trudeau chooses for him in Doonesbury.


Probably a sweater vest. I'm pretty sure major newspapers frown on poop references.

And I, too, am rooting for a Santorum victory. This election season will be hysterical.
 
2012-02-28 11:50:07 AM  
My friends are telling me to vote for the Frothy one in order to sew more chaos in the GOP. I refuse to vote for any of them on fear that they might actually end up being elected.
 
2012-02-28 11:50:45 AM  

Derwood: I'm rooting for whatever result will lead us to a brokered convention for the GOP. Then the party can nominate some person who hasn't spent a dime on the race so far. I mean, how amazing would it be to get to the convention without a candidate and have the party pick Pawlenty or Hunstman or some other random person and send Romney/Santorum/Gingrich/Paul out to pasture?


Sarah Palin just looked up and smiled for no apparent reason.
 
2012-02-28 11:51:06 AM  

Code_Archeologist: Should be an interesting night tonight... because even if Romney wins (which Nate Silver gives him 4/5 odds) it is going to be Pyrrhic victory. Romney (and his SuperPACs) have had to outspend Santorum by an order of magnitude in order to win it, but he will not win enough delegates to put him far enough ahead for to create a buffer for Super Tuesday (which Santorum looks to be on the path to win).


Meh, at this point it looks like no one will have 50+% of delegates by convention time no matter what.
 
2012-02-28 11:52:22 AM  

miss diminutive: Jmast7: "Hello, I'm Leonard Nimoy. The following tale of republican primaries is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is no."

Keep watching the poles. I mean, polls.


You know who else was watching the Poles?
 
2012-02-28 11:52:23 AM  

Phineas J Whoopee: Derwood: I'm rooting for whatever result will lead us to a brokered convention for the GOP. Then the party can nominate some person who hasn't spent a dime on the race so far. I mean, how amazing would it be to get to the convention without a candidate and have the party pick Pawlenty or Hunstman or some other random person and send Romney/Santorum/Gingrich/Paul out to pasture?

Sarah Palin just looked up and smiled for no apparent reason.


She does that pretty much independent of stimuli. I wouldn't read too much into it.
 
2012-02-28 11:52:27 AM  
What's going to be really strange is when the NotRomney pulls ahead of the Romney, and then everybody freaks out when they realize how crazy the NotRomney is and then Romney becomes the NotNotRomney. That's gonna be crazy.

What if Gingrich becomes the NotNotRomney? Then what? Palin as the NotNotNotRomney? One things for sure, it's never gonna be Ron Paul, and that's the funniest part of all.
 
2012-02-28 11:53:35 AM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: What if Gingrich becomes the NotNotRomney? Then what? Palin as the NotNotNotRomney? One things for sure, it's never gonna be Ron Paul, and that's the funniest part of all.


RONPAUL is the table!
 
2012-02-28 11:54:09 AM  
Go Santorum! Continue the upset!!
 
2012-02-28 11:55:39 AM  
www.8bitdad.com
 
2012-02-28 11:57:45 AM  

justafarkingchef: My friends are telling me to vote for the Frothy one in order to sew more chaos in the GOP. I refuse to vote for any of them on fear that they might actually end up being elected.


You could always vote for Herman Cain as a Colbert vote - even though they only did that for South Carolina... Cain IS on the ballot.

Also - you could vote for Buddy Roemer, Gary Johnson, Fred Karger, or Jon Huntsman. Messing with their totals can be done in a way that won't make Santorum a possibility.
 
2012-02-28 11:58:09 AM  
Well, I guess the media has picked its candidates. I think they should rotate who starts the primary season so that ALL Americans are included in the process.
 
2012-02-28 11:58:13 AM  

Amos Quito: RON PAUL IS NOT DEAD!


He wants to go for a walk!

 
2012-02-28 11:58:58 AM  

Amos Quito: RON PAUL IS NOT DEAD!


He's just coughing up blood.
 
2012-02-28 11:59:23 AM  
George W. Bush won twice pandering to Christians, Rick Santorum is the real deal. People who think he's too 'extreme' haven't been paying attention.
 
2012-02-28 11:59:25 AM  
As a conservative....

images.wikia.com
 
2012-02-28 12:00:31 PM  
It's Stupid Tuesday, again?
 
2012-02-28 12:03:50 PM  
If we're going to elect a Republican as president, we might as well elect the one that will cause the most damage to the country in the shortest amount of time and convince people that GOP now stands for gruesome, old punks. Frothy Substance all the way.
 
2012-02-28 12:04:01 PM  

Jesus the 33rd: Fred Karger


I read that as "Fred Kruger" and thought "Well, if he can keep his homicidal tendencies in check..."
 
2012-02-28 12:04:47 PM  

DarnoKonrad: George W. Bush won twice pandering to Christians, Rick Santorum is the real deal. People who think he's too 'extreme' haven't been paying attention.


George W. was able to pander to Christians without alienating everyone else. It was pretty deftly done by the Bush campaign, IMO.
 
2012-02-28 12:05:56 PM  

DarnoKonrad: George W. Bush won twice pandering to Christians, Rick Santorum is the real deal. People who think he's too 'extreme' haven't been paying attention.


You're revising history.

Bush was a Christian...who you could have a beer with. He was a known coke snorter and frat boy. His brand of friendly, "Jesus loves America" Christianity was more palatable. He talked a little shiat about abortion but he did nothing when Republicans controlled all three branches of government (probably to keep the option available for his daughters). Santorum's faith is much more judgemental and intolerant.
 
2012-02-28 12:07:03 PM  

qorkfiend: Jesus the 33rd: Fred Karger

I read that as "Fred Kruger" and thought "Well, if he can keep his homicidal tendencies in check..."


HAHA, that's awesome. Unfortunately, it's the REPUBLICAN primary, so I'd guess not...
 
2012-02-28 12:07:14 PM  

Code_Archeologist: logistic: Also, this race is getting frothy. I want Santorum to win so badly.

Same here... mostly just so I can see the stand-in symbol is that Garry Trudeau chooses for him in Doonesbury.


I'm strictly rooting for Santorum to fuel months of epic Colbert/Stewart jokes.
 
2012-02-28 12:07:19 PM  

justafarkingchef: My friends are telling me to vote for the Frothy one in order to sew more chaos in the GOP. I refuse to vote for any of them on fear that they might actually end up being elected.


I agree. Plus it just seems so jaded and disingenuous to cast votes that way. And later it leads to cries of victimhood and sabotage. We dont need to do that. They will do a much more thorough job of imploding if they are left to their own devices.
 
2012-02-28 12:08:42 PM  
I hope Romney wins the nomination, because if, god forbid, the GOP wins the Presidency, he's the least batshiat insane of the bunch. But I want Santorum to win Massachusetts just for the lulz.
 
2012-02-28 12:08:45 PM  

quickdraw: justafarkingchef: My friends are telling me to vote for the Frothy one in order to sew more chaos in the GOP. I refuse to vote for any of them on fear that they might actually end up being elected.

I agree. Plus it just seems so jaded and disingenuous to cast votes that way. And later it leads to cries of victimhood and sabotage. We dont need to do that.


Oh, yes we do.
 
2012-02-28 12:09:06 PM  

Jmast7: "Hello, I'm Leonard Nimoy. The following tale of republican primaries is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is no."


"Let me, uh, just get something out of my car."

/I don't think he coming back
 
2012-02-28 12:09:14 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: DarnoKonrad: George W. Bush won twice pandering to Christians, Rick Santorum is the real deal. People who think he's too 'extreme' haven't been paying attention.

You're revising history.

Bush was a Christian...who you could have a beer with. He was a known coke snorter and frat boy. His brand of friendly, "Jesus loves America" Christianity was more palatable. He talked a little shiat about abortion but he did nothing when Republicans controlled all three branches of government (probably to keep the option available for his daughters). Santorum's faith is much more judgemental and intolerant.


I never understood how people could be so cruel as to want to have a beer with a recovering alcoholic.

/Republicans are even dicks to their own.
 
2012-02-28 12:09:18 PM  

Serious Black: If we're going to elect a Republican as president, we might as well elect the one that will cause the most damage to the country in the shortest amount of time and convince people that GOP now stands for gruesome, old punks. Frothy Substance all the way.


I used to think that until I read Animal Farm.

In Republican-Land, liberals are their Snowball. President Santorum could run this country completely into the dirt, and they would blame liberals, unions, teachers, atheists, etc. Their plans are always flawless and correct. The screw ups are because of liberals or conservatives being "not conservative enough". That tint of any position deemed liberal is enough to cause them to screw up.
 
2012-02-28 12:11:24 PM  

sprawl15: quickdraw: justafarkingchef: My friends are telling me to vote for the Frothy one in order to sew more chaos in the GOP. I refuse to vote for any of them on fear that they might actually end up being elected.

I agree. Plus it just seems so jaded and disingenuous to cast votes that way. And later it leads to cries of victimhood and sabotage. We dont need to do that.

Oh, yes we do.


Or what? It's short term lulz. It takes away from a much larger pay off just a short bit down the road.
 
2012-02-28 12:12:14 PM  
Santorum is slippery, he might just slide by Romney and insert himself into the top slot, but there would definitely be a big stink from the GOP establishment accompanied by the sudden release of delegates all over the state, and that would be messy.
 
2012-02-28 12:12:39 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: DarnoKonrad: George W. Bush won twice pandering to Christians, Rick Santorum is the real deal. People who think he's too 'extreme' haven't been paying attention.

You're revising history.

Bush was a Christian...who you could have a beer with. He was a known coke snorter and frat boy. His brand of friendly, "Jesus loves America" Christianity was more palatable. He talked a little shiat about abortion but he did nothing when Republicans controlled all three branches of government (probably to keep the option available for his daughters). Santorum's faith is much more judgemental and intolerant.



But he was fake. He didn't push the culture war once in office. Sure he outlawed public funding for embryo research, but his supporters were expecting * a lot * more.

All of us political junkies that think this is all a big game are a minority; the general electorate is not nearly so sophisticated. Santorum has the ability to pick up the same people who voted for Bush in 2004. Romney sure doesn't.
 
2012-02-28 12:12:42 PM  

quickdraw: Or what? It's short term lulz. It takes away from a much larger pay off just a short bit down the road.


You do know the difference between a primary election and a general election, right?
 
2012-02-28 12:13:49 PM  

heinekenftw: I hope Romney wins the nomination, because if, god forbid, the GOP wins the Presidency, he's the least batshiat insane of the bunch. But I want Santorum to win Massachusetts just for the lulz.


He'd still be a rubber stamp for the hideously regressive legislation that would emerge from the GOP-controlled Congress. Think Wisconsin/Ohio on a federal level, with no option for a recall or ballot referendum.
 
2012-02-28 12:14:25 PM  

qorkfiend: George W. was able to pander to Christians without alienating everyone else.


There's a lot to be said for W, but "not alienating" people isn't one of them.
 
2012-02-28 12:17:58 PM  

qorkfiend: heinekenftw: I hope Romney wins the nomination, because if, god forbid, the GOP wins the Presidency, he's the least batshiat insane of the bunch. But I want Santorum to win Massachusetts just for the lulz.

He'd still be a rubber stamp for the hideously regressive legislation that would emerge from the GOP-controlled Congress. Think Wisconsin/Ohio on a federal level, with no option for a recall or ballot referendum.


Oh I'm not saying I want Romney to be president. I just think he'd do the least amount of damage. He'd be a terrible president.
 
2012-02-28 12:18:21 PM  

DarnoKonrad: But he was fake. He didn't push the culture war once in office. Sure he outlawed public funding for embryo research, but his supporters were expecting * a lot * more.


I kinda think that Terri Schiavo was a test balloon for the anti-abortion movement, actually. If the government could set a precedent where they were the final arbiters of whether or not the plug could be pulled - that they could make the medical decisions, and not the family - it could open up several avenues to restrict abortion. Of course, it exploded in their faces and probably cost the GOP the Senate in 2006.
 
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