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2012-02-28 12:08:14 PM  

Thunderpipes:
Tell that to Greece. So who will bail the US out when we are about to default? Canada? Our debt to GDP ratio is rising extremely fast, best case by Obama is we ONLY add 6 trillion or so more in this decade. Realistically we will easily surpass 20 trillion in debt, and no way in Obama's butthole our GDP will rise to match. You don't "save" money by only adding 6 trillion to the debt instead of 8 or 10. We need cuts to balance the budget and even get a little reduction, now.


Yet people are still lining up to buy t-bills and loan us money at essentially 0%

Comparing our economy with Greece's is like comparing Wal-Mart with the guy on the corner selling oranges. Despite what you may have heard on Fox News, we still have a strong manufacturing base, silicon valley etc... I guess you might say that the fundamentals of our economy are strong.
 
2012-02-28 12:08:40 PM  

sid244: Crunch61: The crushing power of a turd is highly over-rated.

Made me think of this...
[mispeled.net image 500x211]


You know Santorum's not the douche, cause he doesn't want to be anywhere near vagina unless it's for makin' babies.
 
2012-02-28 12:10:13 PM  

manimal2878: The deficit is not a real issue.


Bingo. The deficit is a concern, not a crisis. Unemployment is the real issue. Fix that and you'll fix your deficit, not the other way around.
 
2012-02-28 12:11:31 PM  

manimal2878: Thunderpipes: manimal2878: Thunderpipes: trotsky: Most of the Moderates I've talked too will, if Frothy gets the general, sit out the election, go third party or, remarkably, pull for Obama.

I think we're overestimating the GOP's love of Santorum, frankly. There's alot of moderates who are not the loud, overbearing Tea Tard assholes IRL and on the internet. They don't speak up like that and have privately decided who to vote for. And it's not Santorum.

There are a lot of folks who are also just flat out pissed at Obama and will vote for anyone else. No different than all liberals voting for "anyone but Bush". Heck, the Messiah got a Nobel Peace Prize for not being Bush. independents are pretty rare, true ones at least. Many people here for instance, call themselves that, but they are about as left leaning as one can get outside an Occupy movement.

I would say maybe 10% of all Americans even care about the real issues. The deficit is the biggest issue we have, nobody seems to care on either side. It is simply liberal v conservative with a tiny amount of people who really think. Our idiotic two party system pretty much ensures we will never have truly good people to vote for. Too Jesusy or too socialist/Nazi is our choice.

The deficit is not a real issue.

Tell that to Greece. So who will bail the US out when we are about to default? Canada? Our debt to GDP ratio is rising extremely fast, best case by Obama is we ONLY add 6 trillion or so more in this decade. Realistically we will easily surpass 20 trillion in debt, and no way in Obama's butthole our GDP will rise to match. You don't "save" money by only adding 6 trillion to the debt instead of 8 or 10. We need cuts to balance the budget and even get a little reduction, now.

We are not part of the europeon union for one. So comparing greece and the US is asinine.

We only default if we threaten not to pass new budgets that include paying off those debts through continued deficit spending. Note that deficit spe ...


Fewer and fewer Americans as a percentage pay any income tax at all. That number continues to rise and they overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Democrats push more hand outs and that money has to come from somewhere. That causes slowed growth as business owners and investors don't want to take risks. That makes the deficit grow more as a percentage of GDP. Next 4 years, more welfare bums come to voting age, vote for more Democrats, cycle starts anew.

You cannot debate that. fewer Americans pay taxes, our deficit is growing fast, our growth is slowing. Nobody wants to make real cuts. Credit card comparison is perfectly apt.
 
2012-02-28 12:11:46 PM  

qorkfiend: thought he would.

I would wager that that's the entire problem. He's been running for nearly a decade, has had his campaign and finance teams in place for years, and still cannot break 30% of the vote. The only possible explanation is that their strategy is unworkable and they are unable to make effective changes.


Actually, the explaination is quite easy. It has nothing to do with strategy or calculations ..... Romney is just unlikable. It's not just this year or this election, he's a lifelong political loser. He's always been the great candidate on paper, never in the real world. He's always been the candidate of choice for poiliticos, jounalists and pundits, never for voters. People have created this revisionist history of 2008 that McCain was the "establishment" favorite. In actuality, Romney had all the machinery and money behind him in 2008. McCain had burned all of his bridges within the GOP estblishment by being a pain in Bush/Rove's arse for 8 years. McCain had to completely fire and rehaul his entire campaign staff in the summer of 2007 because they were almost bankrupt from their inability to raise money. Romney went all in on New Hampshire and crapped the bed. Guilianni went all in on Florida and crapped the bed. The GOP had nowhere else to turn to but McCain after he had beat both of their establishment candidates on their home turf. Romney is just not good at this, and never has been.
 
2012-02-28 12:11:47 PM  
Romney's awful but Santorum may be the worst not-Romney so far. A Catholic politician who doesn't understand Kennedy's speech would have to have a dangerous level of self-delusion and simple hatred for "the opposition." Sadly, more likely but even worse, he's just tarting up his "faith" and shoving her out on the street to turn tricks for votes. Perry dumb, Bachmann crazy, Cain huckster, but I didn't think I'd ever see a more cynical panderer than Gingrich.

Santorum is just a walking, talking piece of sh*t. If he's still in the race after next week the GOP is finished as a national party.
 
2012-02-28 12:17:00 PM  

Thunderpipes: Fewer and fewer Americans as a percentage pay any income tax at all. Citation Needed That number continues to rise and they overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Citation Needed Democrats push more hand outs Citation Needed and that money has to come from somewhere. That causes slowed growth as business owners and investors don't want to take risks Citation Needed. That makes the deficit grow more as a percentage of GDP. Next 4 years, more welfare bums come to voting age, vote for more Democrats, cycle starts anew. Citation Needed

You cannot debate that. fewer Americans pay taxes, our deficit is growing fast, our growth is slowing. Nobody wants to make real cuts. Credit card comparison is perfectly apt.


I can debate it pretty easily, all you have presented is hyperbole and baseless claims of what you think will happen. Why does a growing deficit matter? It hasn't mattered for hundreds of years why does it matter now?
 
2012-02-28 12:17:34 PM  

Zerochance: kim jong-un: I honestly believe that Dan Savage's attack on Santorum helped Rick's campaign more than it hurt his his campaign.

I disagree. I think Santorum's public image has actually been largely defined by Dan Savage.


Certainly. I wouldn't have been aware of that Jesus-freak cretin if it wasn't for the internet spreading the definition of 'Santorum'. Otherwise he would have just been another Republican in my mind.
 
2012-02-28 12:17:47 PM  
Rick Santorum campaigns in Michigan -

www.empireonline.com
 
2012-02-28 12:24:17 PM  
is it me or is the daily show website farked right now?
 
2012-02-28 12:26:12 PM  

The Bird Is The Word: Each day I come here and see more and more liberals frothing (see what I did there?) at the mouth over Santorum. Fear? Out and out hatred?

Either way, it confirms in my mind that I'm supporting the right guy. If I needed a moral compass in my life, "opposite of Fark" would be a good way to go.


If you don't mind I would like to save this. Then at some point in the future when someone asks "How can republicans/right wingers be so stupid as to support (insert candidate name here)", I can show them your post.

I believe others will find it as instructive and illuminating as I did.
 
2012-02-28 12:26:48 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: sokrayt: HeartBurnKid: sokrayt: Santorum doesn't have the Gingritch hate or the Romneycare albatross. Perfect GOP man.

He has plenty of hate on his own. There's a reason he has that Google problem.

Old people don't care about the "Google Problem". Neither does anyone else.

Of course there's the "Santorum is a hatefilled loon who hates American religious freedom" factor that inspired the "Google Problem" in the first place...


Don't underestimate the problem that "Santorum is a Catholic" can cause. I live in a very anti-Catholic area. There are people here who believe the Biblical beast is the Catholic Church. Lest you think this is a weird geographic phenomenon, keep in mind that places like Bob Jones University are anti-Catholic by policy. Many protestants are anti-Catholic by reflex. Michigan, of course is one of the most Catholic states in the union after Louisiana. But the rest of the country? Not so very Catholic.

Sure, Kennedy was elected president, but Kennedy did this by making a speech that basically assured the public that he would not be imposing Pope's Rules on America. Santorum has assured us that Kennedy's speech made him want to throw up. So, yeah, evangelical Protestants, this is your guy.
 
2012-02-28 12:28:19 PM  

Hobodeluxe: I think the biggest problem the base has with Romney is the Mormon thing.
The moderates just don't trust him and think he's a con man who will say or do anything for a vote. He's twisted positions so fast and furious that there's no telling what he might do in office.
The elite establishment of the party love him though. He's their guy.

Santorum is exactly the opposite.
The base loves him.
He's rigid in his positions.
The moderates think he's too right wing socially.
The establishment doesn't like him but they would support him if they thought he could win.


Indeed, the Santorum is batshiat crazy, but he stands and falls, unrepentant and unashamed, by his batshiat crazy. For what that's worth.

The Romney is a salesman. Nobody trusts a salesman.
 
2012-02-28 12:28:46 PM  

Thunderpipes: manimal2878: Thunderpipes: trotsky: Most of the Moderates I've talked too will, if Frothy gets the general, sit out the election, go third party or, remarkably, pull for Obama.

I think we're overestimating the GOP's love of Santorum, frankly. There's alot of moderates who are not the loud, overbearing Tea Tard assholes IRL and on the internet. They don't speak up like that and have privately decided who to vote for. And it's not Santorum.

There are a lot of folks who are also just flat out pissed at Obama and will vote for anyone else. No different than all liberals voting for "anyone but Bush". Heck, the Messiah got a Nobel Peace Prize for not being Bush. independents are pretty rare, true ones at least. Many people here for instance, call themselves that, but they are about as left leaning as one can get outside an Occupy movement.

I would say maybe 10% of all Americans even care about the real issues. The deficit is the biggest issue we have, nobody seems to care on either side. It is simply liberal v conservative with a tiny amount of people who really think. Our idiotic two party system pretty much ensures we will never have truly good people to vote for. Too Jesusy or too socialist/Nazi is our choice.

The deficit is not a real issue.

Tell that to Greece. So who will bail the US out when we are about to default? Canada? Our debt to GDP ratio is rising extremely fast, best case by Obama is we ONLY add 6 trillion or so more in this decade. Realistically we will easily surpass 20 trillion in debt, and no way in Obama's butthole our GDP will rise to match. You don't "save" money by only adding 6 trillion to the debt instead of 8 or 10. We need cuts to balance the budget and even get a little reduction, now.


Wish you Teabaggers were saying these things before instead of voting for Bush twice and cheerleading his policies, you know those unfunded wars you love so much?

Republicans have no ground to stand on.
 
2012-02-28 12:30:40 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: The Romney is a salesman. Nobody trusts a salesman.


And a real life Larry the Liquidator.
 
2012-02-28 12:35:02 PM  

manimal2878: Thunderpipes: Fewer and fewer Americans as a percentage pay any income tax at all. Citation Needed That number continues to rise and they overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Citation Needed Democrats push more hand outs Citation Needed and that money has to come from somewhere. That causes slowed growth as business owners and investors don't want to take risks Citation Needed. That makes the deficit grow more as a percentage of GDP. Next 4 years, more welfare bums come to voting age, vote for more Democrats, cycle starts anew. Citation Needed

You cannot debate that. fewer Americans pay taxes, our deficit is growing fast, our growth is slowing. Nobody wants to make real cuts. Credit card comparison is perfectly apt.

I can debate it pretty easily, all you have presented is hyperbole and baseless claims of what you think will happen. Why does a growing deficit matter? It hasn't mattered for hundreds of years why does it matter now?


FarkCons have to make things up in order to make their dumb points.

There is not one Contard here that can defend their position with facts. Its all hyperbole and conjecture. For big tough guys, they sure refer to how they are feeling and what their gut is telling them.

/Free GaryPDX
 
2012-02-28 12:35:12 PM  

Raspil: You are as scary as he is because you don't know how scary he is.


Santorum is *not* scary. All this time I thought it was Republicans who were gullible enough to fall for fear mongering.

Voiceofreason01: Romney is far from "Obama lite" although he by far the most centrist of the Republican candidates and I think a lot of Republicans see him that way.


Centrist = Obama Lite. Again, given the choice between Romney and Obama, I think more people would go for Obama because he would be the "real deal" not to mention Romneys problem with sincerity in his positions.


/hell, I'd wager that neither Santorum or Gingrich could lock up the Republican base in a general election


I disagree, I think Gingrich could lock up the Republican base in a General simply because he is more moderate when it comes to social conservative issues. Santorum loses many of the Fiscal Conservatives simply because he is focusing too much on social issues and is very far right when it comes to them. As far as beating Obama, I think Gingrich has as much chance to do so as any of the other candidates, once the party coalesces behind one and the general campaign begins.

/Mind you, I'm biased as betwixt the three standing Newt is my choice.
//Santorum wins I vote Libertarian - Romney wins, I would probably vote for him, but might still go Libertarian simply because Romney seems a little too "Used Car Salesman" like to me.
 
2012-02-28 12:38:02 PM  

Hobodeluxe: because Republicans are not snobs?


That one has always baffled me. That would be like the plantation owner saying they can relate to their slaves.
 
2012-02-28 12:41:55 PM  

Thunderpipes: You cannot debate that. fewer Americans pay taxes, our deficit is growing fast, our growth is slowing. Nobody wants to make real cuts. Credit card comparison is perfectly apt.


If by perfectly apt, you mean completely daft, then I'd agree. I'd love to know where you bank that allows you as the borrower to set the rates that you pay.
 
2012-02-28 12:42:35 PM  

Thunderpipes: manimal2878: Thunderpipes: trotsky: Most of the Moderates I've talked too will, if Frothy gets the general, sit out the election, go third party or, remarkably, pull for Obama.

I think we're overestimating the GOP's love of Santorum, frankly. There's alot of moderates who are not the loud, overbearing Tea Tard assholes IRL and on the internet. They don't speak up like that and have privately decided who to vote for. And it's not Santorum.

There are a lot of folks who are also just flat out pissed at Obama and will vote for anyone else. No different than all liberals voting for "anyone but Bush". Heck, the Messiah got a Nobel Peace Prize for not being Bush. independents are pretty rare, true ones at least. Many people here for instance, call themselves that, but they are about as left leaning as one can get outside an Occupy movement.

I would say maybe 10% of all Americans even care about the real issues. The deficit is the biggest issue we have, nobody seems to care on either side. It is simply liberal v conservative with a tiny amount of people who really think. Our idiotic two party system pretty much ensures we will never have truly good people to vote for. Too Jesusy or too socialist/Nazi is our choice.

The deficit is not a real issue.

Tell that to Greece. So who will bail the US out when we are about to default? Canada? Our debt to GDP ratio is rising extremely fast, best case by Obama is we ONLY add 6 trillion or so more in this decade. Realistically we will easily surpass 20 trillion in debt, and no way in Obama's butthole our GDP will rise to match. You don't "save" money by only adding 6 trillion to the debt instead of 8 or 10. We need cuts to balance the budget and even get a little reduction, now.


Ok. I propose cutting the military budget by at least 50% (so we only spend 3 times as much as China does as opposed to 6 times) and legalizing MJ (and maybe other drugs), prostitution, and on-line poker (and taxing all of the above, as well as firing all the police officers, prosecutors, prison guards, judges, court reporters, baliffs, probation officers, and public defenders in charge of arresting, trying, convicting, and guarding the people arrested for such). I also propose taxing capital gains as ordinary income and instituting a new, higher tax rate on those who make more than a million dollars a year (there's no way to reduce the deficit via cuts alone).

What, you don't want to do any of that? I guess you don't really want to reduce the deficit then.

In any case, the US ain't Greece. For one thing, we contol our own currency, unlike Greece. For another thing, we are the large, powerful United States of America, not the tiny, weak Greece.
 
2012-02-28 12:49:35 PM  

CanisNoir: Raspil: You are as scary as he is because you don't know how scary he is.

Santorum is *not* scary. All this time I thought it was Republicans who were gullible enough to fall for fear mongering.


Santorum is scary if you are not Catholic or extreme-conservative. As an atheist I am frightened of people who want to create laws based solely on religious texts and beliefs and not on any rational grounds.
 
2012-02-28 12:51:43 PM  

DeaH: Crotchrocket Slim: sokrayt: HeartBurnKid: sokrayt: Santorum doesn't have the Gingritch hate or the Romneycare albatross. Perfect GOP man.

He has plenty of hate on his own. There's a reason he has that Google problem.

Old people don't care about the "Google Problem". Neither does anyone else.

Of course there's the "Santorum is a hatefilled loon who hates American religious freedom" factor that inspired the "Google Problem" in the first place...

Don't underestimate the problem that "Santorum is a Catholic" can cause. I live in a very anti-Catholic area. There are people here who believe the Biblical beast is the Catholic Church. Lest you think this is a weird geographic phenomenon, keep in mind that places like Bob Jones University are anti-Catholic by policy. Many protestants are anti-Catholic by reflex. Michigan, of course is one of the most Catholic states in the union after Louisiana. But the rest of the country? Not so very Catholic.

Sure, Kennedy was elected president, but Kennedy did this by making a speech that basically assured the public that he would not be imposing Pope's Rules on America. Santorum has assured us that Kennedy's speech made him want to throw up. So, yeah, evangelical Protestants, this is your guy.


Bear in mind I was thinking of the situation that preceded Santorum's "Google situation", though you are right, he keeps giving voters reasons NOT to vote for him at a rate slightly higher than Romney is.
 
2012-02-28 12:53:00 PM  
Right, the U.S. doesn't really have to worry about other countries not loaning us money. We are like the Travis of the Cosmos of the world stage. People like us! Because we force them to! With violence.

i28.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-28 01:05:55 PM  

The Bird Is The Word: Each day I come here and see more and more liberals frothing (see what I did there?) at the mouth over Santorum. Fear? Out and out hatred?

Either way, it confirms in my mind that I'm supporting the right guy. If I needed a moral compass in my life, "opposite of Fark" would be a good way to go.


I couldn't possibly hate Santorum more than I do (being from PA will have that effect), but you might have a point there...
 
2012-02-28 01:07:57 PM  

markb289: sid244: Crunch61: The crushing power of a turd is highly over-rated.

Made me think of this...
[mispeled.net image 500x211]

You know Santorum's not the douche, cause he doesn't want to be anywhere near vagina unless it's for makin' babies.


That's always been the problem with that metaphor; douches actually have a useful medical function.
 
2012-02-28 01:18:12 PM  

rebelyell2006: Santorum is scary if you are not Catholic or extreme-conservative. As an atheist I am frightened of people who want to create laws based solely on religious texts and beliefs and not on any rational grounds.


Then you're an idiot.

Let me post something that someone posted in another thread that I think illuminates why I think your position is idiotic.

vygramul: The problem is that it is impossible to divorce religion from politics. Separation of Church and State is not intended to tell people that they have to leave their beliefs at the threshhold of the state house, but that the state has no business telling you what you should believe. Everyone acts on their beliefs, including you and me. We may consider what we believe an ethos, or a philosophy, or a moral code, or something else, but really, "religion" is just another classification of beliefs, and it's beyond fruitless to pretend there is somehow this other code to which legislators can adhere that is anything but another type of belief system.


Every politician creates laws based upon a belief system, deal with it.
 
2012-02-28 01:22:10 PM  

CanisNoir: Every politician creates laws based upon a belief system, deal with it.


so it's ok to condemn Santorum's policies because they're fascist but not because they're "Christian"; because religion?

establishment clause (pay close attention to the introductory paragraph)
 
2012-02-28 01:23:01 PM  
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with, "Because Republican primary voters are retards."

Also, Romney's a Mormon. To a lot of Republican Jesus freaks, that's as bad as being a Scientologist.

A lot of them don't like Catholics, either, but I guess that's no longer the problem it once was. That's progress, sort of.

I continue to be kind of surprised Paul isn't the front-runner. He must not be Jesusy enough. We know it isn't because his positions are as nonsenscial as Santorum's. That hasn't been an obstacle for Republicans for at least 25 years.
 
2012-02-28 01:25:27 PM  

CanisNoir: rebelyell2006: Santorum is scary if you are not Catholic or extreme-conservative. As an atheist I am frightened of people who want to create laws based solely on religious texts and beliefs and not on any rational grounds.

Then you're an idiot.

Let me post something that someone posted in another thread that I think illuminates why I think your position is idiotic.

vygramul: The problem is that it is impossible to divorce religion from politics. Separation of Church and State is not intended to tell people that they have to leave their beliefs at the threshhold of the state house, but that the state has no business telling you what you should believe. Everyone acts on their beliefs, including you and me. We may consider what we believe an ethos, or a philosophy, or a moral code, or something else, but really, "religion" is just another classification of beliefs, and it's beyond fruitless to pretend there is somehow this other code to which legislators can adhere that is anything but another type of belief system.

Every politician creates laws based upon a belief system, deal with it.


By shooting the Bible thumpers? I'd hardly think that would be legal. The nature of the United States, as set forth by the Constitution and the founders, was to form a nation along rational lines and not arbitrary religious moral codes (else we would have been established under a national church instead of a country with a separation of church and state). Creating national laws that are based upon irrational beliefs would be against the very nature of this country. What is rational about creating laws that ban abortion? What is rational about banning contraception or sodomy or masturbation? Remove the invisible friends from the argument (which is the only reasonable thing to do), and what justification is there for social conservatism and the laws they suggest?
 
2012-02-28 01:25:41 PM  

Hickory-smoked:

That's always been the problem with that metaphor; douches actually have a useful medical function.


FYI, no, they don't.
 
2012-02-28 01:34:09 PM  

Thunderpipes: Fewer and fewer Americans as a percentage pay any income tax at all. That number continues to rise and they overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Democrats push more hand outs and that money has to come from somewhere. That causes slowed growth as business owners and investors don't want to take risks. That makes the deficit grow more as a percentage of GDP. Next 4 years, more welfare bums come to voting age, vote for more Democrats, cycle starts anew.

You cannot debate that. fewer Americans pay taxes, our deficit is growing fast, our growth is slowing. Nobody wants to make real cuts. Credit card comparison is perfectly apt.


So then there's an excellent reason for the republican rich to spread the wealth around and generate more taxpayers, but do they?
 
2012-02-28 01:36:25 PM  

CanisNoir: vygramul: The problem is that it is impossible to divorce religion from politics. Separation of Church and State is not intended to tell people that they have to leave their beliefs at the threshhold of the state house, but that the state has no business telling you what you should believe. Everyone acts on their beliefs, including you and me. We may consider what we believe an ethos, or a philosophy, or a moral code, or something else, but really, "religion" is just another classification of beliefs, and it's beyond fruitless to pretend there is somehow this other code to which legislators can adhere that is anything but another type of belief system.

Every politician creates laws based upon a belief system, deal with it.


Much of this is true, but its also why the seperation of church and state exists. When religious doctrine becomes the basis for secular law, the freedom of religion we are all so proud of goes out the window. That is why Santorum is scary. "My way or the highway," has never been a solid basis on which to build policy.
 
2012-02-28 01:36:35 PM  
Because Romney seems to be doing what was thought to be impossible and making John Kerry seem more charismatic than him by comparison.
 
2012-02-28 01:44:25 PM  
Anyone have another link to the video, not working on this end in the office.
 
2012-02-28 01:48:26 PM  
Santorum is crazy, Romney is a slimeball, Ron Paul is crazy like the rest of them, but at least he's fair and a Constitutionalist.
 
2012-02-28 01:54:24 PM  

VW_Factor: Anyone have another link to the video, not working on this end in the office.


Here ya go: HuffPo (new window)
 
2012-02-28 01:59:53 PM  

rebelyell2006: ...Santorum is scary if you are not Catholic or extreme-conservative. As an atheist I am frightened of people who want to create laws based solely on religious texts and beliefs and not on any rational grounds.


For the record, his idiotic beliefs don't represent all (or even most?) Catholics. There is a huge disparity between the Catholic church 'of the Vatican' and that 'of the people'. Catholics aren't nearly as old, white, and stupid as the Vatican would make it appear. We use birth control, think rape is actually a bad thing, think priests should be able to marry, etc., and rape...

/you said rape twice
 
2012-02-28 02:04:04 PM  
Just going to leave this here:

chzdailywhat.files.wordpress.com

source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-02-23/swing-states-h e alth-care-obama/53260222/1

The big issue? Mandatory purchasing of healthcare.
 
2012-02-28 02:07:05 PM  

dan1101: Santorum is crazy, Romney is a slimeball, Ron Paul is crazy like the rest of them, but at least he's fair and a Constitutionalist.


Ron Paul is a "Constitutionalist"; the quotes are important since it helps to signify that Paul's beliefs may more closely reflect what he thinks(or wants to believe) the Constitution says rather than what it actually says.

/his economic ideas are not constitutionally based nor are his attitudes about isolating the US
 
2012-02-28 02:12:11 PM  
p.s., I firmly hope that the reason why the Republicans field is so crazy is because, at the time of declaring their nominations, all the moderates decided they couldn't win against the incumbent (who holds a massive advantage) so decided to keep their powder dry until 2016 when the field will be more open.

/it's a hope.
 
2012-02-28 02:12:15 PM  

CatfoodSpork: I hate the fact that democrats have a little laugh to themselves that Santorum, that frothy senator, is doing so well in the polls. Even my own friends and family gleefully proclaim that they hope he wins the republican nomination so that Obama will have an easier re-election.

To this I say no. Rick Santorum's positions are so utterly distasteful, so ridiculously bigoted, hateful, retarded and ignorant that I cannot agree in any way that his being Repub. nominee would be a good thing. Rick Santorum and his political values should be utterly repudiated in the harshest possible terms. He should be getting almost 0% of votes and should be persona non grata among even among republicans.


I very much like the cut of your jib. I offer you a laurel and a hearty handshake.
 
2012-02-28 02:14:07 PM  

Balrog: VW_Factor: Anyone have another link to the video, not working on this end in the office.

Here ya go: HuffPo (new window)


Much thanks.
 
2012-02-28 02:14:10 PM  
Smelly Pirate Hooker: Also, Romney's a Mormon. To a lot of Republican Jesus freaks, that's as bad as being a Scientologist

I can definitely confirm this. I was raised Southern Baptist, and we were taught that Mormons were a cult. We even had special workshops on how to witness to those evil Mormons and bring them to Jesus through the proper use of the proper bible. Mitt will never get the endorsement of any of the evangelicals. Having a Mormon in office terrifies them nearly as much as having a Muslim. I seriously doubt if they care much about his fiscal policies. Being Mormon is the real deal-breaker for them.
 
2012-02-28 02:17:19 PM  

Thunderpipes: manimal2878: Thunderpipes: manimal2878: Thunderpipes: trotsky: Most of the Moderates I've talked too will, if Frothy gets the general, sit out the election, go third party or, remarkably, pull for Obama.

I think we're overestimating the GOP's love of Santorum, frankly. There's alot of moderates who are not the loud, overbearing Tea Tard assholes IRL and on the internet. They don't speak up like that and have privately decided who to vote for. And it's not Santorum.

There are a lot of folks who are also just flat out pissed at Obama and will vote for anyone else. No different than all liberals voting for "anyone but Bush". Heck, the Messiah got a Nobel Peace Prize for not being Bush. independents are pretty rare, true ones at least. Many people here for instance, call themselves that, but they are about as left leaning as one can get outside an Occupy movement.

I would say maybe 10% of all Americans even care about the real issues. The deficit is the biggest issue we have, nobody seems to care on either side. It is simply liberal v conservative with a tiny amount of people who really think. Our idiotic two party system pretty much ensures we will never have truly good people to vote for. Too Jesusy or too socialist/Nazi is our choice.

The deficit is not a real issue.

Tell that to Greece. So who will bail the US out when we are about to default? Canada? Our debt to GDP ratio is rising extremely fast, best case by Obama is we ONLY add 6 trillion or so more in this decade. Realistically we will easily surpass 20 trillion in debt, and no way in Obama's butthole our GDP will rise to match. You don't "save" money by only adding 6 trillion to the debt instead of 8 or 10. We need cuts to balance the budget and even get a little reduction, now.

We are not part of the europeon union for one. So comparing greece and the US is asinine.

We only default if we threaten not to pass new budgets that include paying off those debts through continued deficit spending. Note tha ...


READ: Who hell is letting the minorities vote?
 
2012-02-28 02:21:04 PM  

ansius: Just going to leave this here:

[chzdailywhat.files.wordpress.com image 500x409]

source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-02-23/swing-states-h e alth-care-obama/53260222/1

The big issue? Mandatory purchasing of healthcare.


Why don't you leave the rest of todays polls here too? Yours seems to have "unique" quality....

RCP Average 2/8 - 2/27 -- 49.7 43.8 Obama +5.9
Rasmussen Tracking 2/25 - 2/27 1500 LV 46 43 Obama +3
Politico/GWU/Battleground 2/19 - 2/22 1000 LV 53 42 Obama +11
USA Today/Gallup 2/20 - 2/21 881 RV 46 49 Santorum +3
Associated Press/GfK 2/16 - 2/20 1000 A 52 43 Obama +9
Quinnipiac 2/14 - 2/20 2605 RV 47 44 Obama +3
CNN/Opinion Research 2/10 - 2/13 937 RV 52 45 Obama +7
CBS News/NY Times 2/8 - 2/13 1604 RV 49 41 Obama +8
PPP (D) 2/9 - 2/12 1200 RV 49 44 Obama +5
Pew Research 2/8 - 2/12 1172 RV 53 43 Obama +10
 
2012-02-28 02:24:29 PM  

Thunderpipes: Fewer and fewer Americans as a percentage pay any income tax at all. That number continues to rise and they overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Democrats push more hand outs and that money has to come from somewhere. That causes slowed growth as business owners and investors don't want to take risks. That makes the deficit grow more as a percentage of GDP. Next 4 years, more welfare bums come to voting age, vote for more Democrats, cycle starts anew.

You cannot debate that. fewer Americans pay taxes, our deficit is growing fast, our growth is slowing. Nobody wants to make real cuts. Credit card comparison is perfectly apt.


Farked the quote.

READ: Who the hell is letting the minorities vote?

You're cute with the non committal "welfare" and "democrat" , you would be better off telling everyone you are a peckerwood and just being honest.
 
2012-02-28 02:39:54 PM  

Paul Baumer: ansius: Just going to leave this here:

[chzdailywhat.files.wordpress.com image 500x409]

source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-02-23/swing-states-h e alth-care-obama/53260222/1

The big issue? Mandatory purchasing of healthcare.

Why don't you leave the rest of todays polls here too? Yours seems to have "unique" quality....

RCP Average 2/8 - 2/27 -- 49.7 43.8 Obama +5.9
Rasmussen Tracking 2/25 - 2/27 1500 LV 46 43 Obama +3

Politico/GWU/Battleground 2/19 - 2/22 1000 LV 53 42 Obama +11
USA Today/Gallup 2/20 - 2/21 881 RV 46 49 Santorum +3
Associated Press/GfK 2/16 - 2/20 1000 A 52 43 Obama +9
Quinnipiac 2/14 - 2/20 2605 RV 47 44 Obama +3
CNN/Opinion Research 2/10 - 2/13 937 RV 52 45 Obama +7
CBS News/NY Times 2/8 - 2/13 1604 RV 49 41 Obama +8
PPP (D) 2/9 - 2/12 1200 RV 49 44 Obama +5
Pew Research 2/8 - 2/12 1172 RV 53 43 Obama +10


If even Rasmussen and Real Clear Politics are polling Obama to win, just who in the fark is USA Today asking?
 
2012-02-28 02:56:40 PM  

hawcian: If even Rasmussen and Real Clear Politics are polling Obama to win, just who in the fark is USA Today asking?


The highest bidder?

I work for a hotel, and I glance at the front page when the USA Todays come in, and some days I wonder 'Who paid for that story?'
 
2012-02-28 03:09:55 PM  

Paul Baumer: ansius: Just going to leave this here:

[chzdailywhat.files.wordpress.com image 500x409]

source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-02-23/swing-states-h e alth-care-obama/53260222/1

The big issue? Mandatory purchasing of healthcare.

Why don't you leave the rest of todays polls here too? Yours seems to have "unique" quality....

RCP Average 2/8 - 2/27 -- 49.7 43.8 Obama +5.9
Rasmussen Tracking 2/25 - 2/27 1500 LV 46 43 Obama +3
Politico/GWU/Battleground 2/19 - 2/22 1000 LV 53 42 Obama +11
USA Today/Gallup 2/20 - 2/21 881 RV 46 49 Santorum +3
Associated Press/GfK 2/16 - 2/20 1000 A 52 43 Obama +9
Quinnipiac 2/14 - 2/20 2605 RV 47 44 Obama +3
CNN/Opinion Research 2/10 - 2/13 937 RV 52 45 Obama +7
CBS News/NY Times 2/8 - 2/13 1604 RV 49 41 Obama +8
PPP (D) 2/9 - 2/12 1200 RV 49 44 Obama +5
Pew Research 2/8 - 2/12 1172 RV 53 43 Obama +10


now that's a lot more comforting. At least it seems American voters haven't gone completely crayon-eating stupid. And this is without Obama starting to campaign.

Perhaps USA today polls the Holiday-Inn staying travelling white businessman from Idaho set?
 
2012-02-28 03:10:37 PM  
You can't stop the tsunami!

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It would be funnier if it weren't so sad. I would be stunned if he made it until November. It's not improbable, but many Republicans don't seem to like him.

It really appears they are divided three ways, Good Old Boys are backing Gingrich, Centrists and Traditional Republicans are backing Romney, and Tea People and Religious Righters are backing Santorum after all their other guys got kicked out.

In any circumstance, there's going to be massive butthurt in the GOP shortly.
 
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