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(Boston.com)   The only player in history to have played in the Little League World Series, the College World Series, the World Series, the Olympics, and the World Baseball Classic to call it a career. Teknically, he will still be with the Red Sox   (boston.com) divider line 89
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2012-02-28 09:32:25 AM  
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2012-02-28 10:18:20 AM  
We don't throw at .260 hitters.
 
2012-02-28 10:19:59 AM  

AtticusFinchEsq: We don't throw at .260 hitters.


what team do you play for?
 
2012-02-28 10:24:02 AM  
Fitting for him and Posada to retire in the same year. Those two were the epitome of professionals anchoring their teams.
Not a HOF candidate, but certainly a Red Sox icon.
 
2012-02-28 10:26:24 AM  

AtticusFinchEsq: We don't throw at .260 hitters.


But we do punch them in the face while wearing full catcher's gear.
 
2012-02-28 10:29:41 AM  
www.jedjacobsohn.com

Call me an optimist, but I've always preferred this one...

Don't forget "the only player in history to catch four no-hitters"! Gonna miss him good.
 
2012-02-28 10:34:22 AM  
I just hope he lands a job with Sox as a coach. I can see Tek becomming the Sox's manager someday.
 
2012-02-28 10:37:40 AM  

Publikwerks: I just hope he lands a job with Sox as a coach. I can see Tek becomming the Sox's manager someday.


Better get that "MGR" patch ready for his jersey. Otherwise, people not realize he's the manager.
 
2012-02-28 10:38:40 AM  
I guess he figured that with Heidi in California now he had no reason to come back.
 
2012-02-28 10:40:15 AM  
This has nothing to do with Boston removing beer from the clubhouse.
 
2012-02-28 11:00:06 AM  
Hell of a difference it made in Boston having a "captain" of the team. He really set the clubhouse straight last year.
 
2012-02-28 11:21:52 AM  
Imagine the Box Office Bonanza if Tek went down to coach the Paw Sox.
 
2012-02-28 11:22:25 AM  
He's a lock for the Hall of Meh™.

/b-b-but he calls a good game!!1!
 
2012-02-28 11:23:20 AM  

Publikwerks: I just hope he lands a job with Sox as a coach. I can see Tek becomming the Sox's manager someday.


How many catchers have become managers in the last couple of decades? It seems to be the perfect position to start from.
 
2012-02-28 11:23:28 AM  
Now, there's a guy that really likes beer.
 
2012-02-28 11:23:29 AM  

AtticusFinchEsq: We don't throw at .260 hitters.


He never actually said that.
 
2012-02-28 11:35:04 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: Better get that "MGR" patch ready for his jersey. Otherwise, people not realize he's the manager.


Wakka wakka.



Wise_Guy: He's a lock for the Hall of Meh™.

/b-b-but he calls a good game!!1!


He holds the record for catching no-hitters (4). While obviously no direct indication of his skill, it is impressive.
 
2012-02-28 11:41:53 AM  

unatnaes: Call me an optimist, but I've always preferred this one...

Don't forget "the only player in history to catch four no-hitters"! Gonna miss him good.


Look, that mask DOES come off!
 
2012-02-28 11:42:07 AM  

fatalvenom: Wise_Guy: He's a lock for the Hall of Meh™.

/b-b-but he calls a good game!!1!

He holds the record for catching no-hitters (4). While obviously no direct indication of his skill, it is impressive.


Exactly.
 
2012-02-28 11:48:56 AM  
Varitek did a ton of roids on that 2003 team with Giambi, Ortiz, Manny, Nixon, Gapler, et al, but he did manage to nail Erin Andrews, so you gotta give him some props for that.
 
2012-02-28 11:51:58 AM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Varitek did a ton of roids on that 2003 team with Giambi, Ortiz, Manny, Nixon, Gapler, et al, but he did manage to nail Erin Andrews, so you gotta give him some props for that.


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2012-02-28 11:54:28 AM  

fatalvenom: He holds the record for catching no-hitters (4). While obviously no direct indication of his skill, it is impressive.


Like many things that happen in the random world of baseball, it's a historical curiosity and nothing more.
 
2012-02-28 11:54:55 AM  
...and baserunners with only moderate speed from across the AL wept
 
2012-02-28 12:11:09 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: fatalvenom: He holds the record for catching no-hitters (4). While obviously no direct indication of his skill, it is impressive.

Like many things that happen in the random world of baseball, it's a historical curiosity and nothing more.


Exactly
 
2012-02-28 12:11:13 PM  
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2012-02-28 12:13:13 PM  

fatalvenom: Wise_Guy: He's a lock for the Hall of Meh™.

/b-b-but he calls a good game!!1!

He holds the record for catching no-hitters (4). While obviously no direct indication of his skill, it is impressive.


Thank you for the baseball equivalent to "I'm not saying it's aliens... but it's aliens."

If you want something that is a direct measure of catcher defensive skill, Varitek threw out 23% of base stealers in his career, and 28% in his best season. Over his career, the league average was 30%.
 
2012-02-28 12:15:45 PM  

chimp_ninja: fatalvenom: Wise_Guy: He's a lock for the Hall of Meh™.

/b-b-but he calls a good game!!1!

He holds the record for catching no-hitters (4). While obviously no direct indication of his skill, it is impressive.

Thank you for the baseball equivalent to "I'm not saying it's aliens... but it's aliens."

If you want something that is a direct measure of catcher defensive skill, Varitek threw out 23% of base stealers in his career, and 28% in his best season. Over his career, the league average was 30%.


But he was able to talk to the refs on the ice to argue penalty calls.
 
2012-02-28 12:16:21 PM  
RIP Skull Squadron

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2012-02-28 12:39:41 PM  

chimp_ninja: fatalvenom: Wise_Guy: He's a lock for the Hall of Meh™.

/b-b-but he calls a good game!!1!

He holds the record for catching no-hitters (4). While obviously no direct indication of his skill, it is impressive.

Thank you for the baseball equivalent to "I'm not saying it's aliens... but it's aliens."

If you want something that is a direct measure of catcher defensive skill, Varitek threw out 23% of base stealers in his career, and 28% in his best season. Over his career, the league average was 30%.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-02-28 12:43:26 PM  
For some reason, my fondest memory of Tek was the 2004 ALCS when he caught for Wakefield. Horribly.

For some reason, every PB made me think that the guy was just toughing it out, every time he looked like a fool was motivation for him to come up big swinging. I dunno if that was one of the games they won on 20OCT2004 (the end of Gm 6/start of Gm 7), but I was rooting hard for the Sox and that struck me just so.

// Braves fan
// good night, catchy man
 
2012-02-28 12:47:58 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Publikwerks: I just hope he lands a job with Sox as a coach. I can see Tek becomming the Sox's manager someday.

How many catchers have become managers in the last couple of decades? It seems to be the perfect position to start from.


I think it is. Catchers are used to managing pitchers and setting up plays. They have to know the strengths of their teammates and which opponents are likely to do things like steal a base. It's a relatively cerebral position so it's not hard for them to go from playing to managing a team.
 
2012-02-28 01:05:32 PM  
Varitek, who turns 40 in April, will leave behind a legacy few can match. He hit .256...

I stopped reading right there. Chowderhead pablum...
 
2012-02-28 01:13:11 PM  

Pontious Pilates: Varitek, who turns 40 in April, will leave behind a legacy few can match. He hit .256...

I stopped reading right there. Chowderhead pablum...


He gave the Red Sox a league-average bat at a premium position, which he played with overall average defensive ability. (His arm was always weak, but he was reasonably good at preventing PB/WP, and didn't make many throwing errors.) He stayed mostly healthy over a long career-- 30th all time in games behind the plate.

Wise_Guy: He's a lock for the Hall of Meh™.


I'd upgrade him to the Hall of Kind of Want®.
 
2012-02-28 01:16:43 PM  

greentea1985: UNC_Samurai: Publikwerks: I just hope he lands a job with Sox as a coach. I can see Tek becomming the Sox's manager someday.

How many catchers have become managers in the last couple of decades? It seems to be the perfect position to start from.

I think it is. Catchers are used to managing pitchers and setting up plays. They have to know the strengths of their teammates and which opponents are likely to do things like steal a base. It's a relatively cerebral position so it's not hard for them to go from playing to managing a team.


Of the current MLB managers:

Catchers: 10 (Girardi, Maddon, Yost, Leyland, Wedge, Melvin, Gonzalez, Matheny, Bochy, Scioscia)
Outfielders: 6 (Manuel, Hurdle, Roenicke, Baker, Gibson, Tracy)
Shortstops: 5 (Gardenhire, Guillen, Collins, Washington, Sveum)
First Base: 3 (Mattingly, Acta, Showalter)
Third Base: 2 (Ventura, Mills)
Pitchers: 2 (Farrell, Bochy)
Second Base: Johnson
Utility: Valentine
 
2012-02-28 01:17:09 PM  

chimp_ninja: He gave the Red Sox a league-average bat at a premium position, which he played with overall average defensive ability. (His arm was always weak, but he was reasonably good at preventing PB/WP, and didn't make many throwing errors.) He stayed mostly healthy over a long career-- 30th all time in games behind the plate.


And if he'd done all that in Seattle we wouldn't have this thread because nobody would care.
 
2012-02-28 01:17:51 PM  

greentea1985: UNC_Samurai: Publikwerks: I just hope he lands a job with Sox as a coach. I can see Tek becomming the Sox's manager someday.

How many catchers have become managers in the last couple of decades? It seems to be the perfect position to start from.

I think it is. Catchers are used to managing pitchers and setting up plays. They have to know the strengths of their teammates and which opponents are likely to do things like steal a base. It's a relatively cerebral position so it's not hard for them to go from playing to managing a team.


Very true. A good catcher is often an on-field manager, and one of the few positions where skill on the field can matter more than skill as a hitter.

So I make fun of Tek's .256 average (well, moreso the Globe's stroking of same), but I bet he'll make a very good manager.
 
2012-02-28 01:19:21 PM  
whoops, listed Bochy as a pitcher too for some stupid reason.. I meant Bud Black
 
2012-02-28 01:20:06 PM  

The Bestest: whoops, listed Bochy as a pitcher too for some stupid reason.. I meant Bud Black


Yeah, I was about to say... But still, cool breakdown, bro.
 
2012-02-28 01:21:11 PM  
Also, Ventura started his career as a catcher, but made the move to third, as many others have.
 
2012-02-28 01:27:56 PM  

Pontious Pilates: Also, Ventura started his career as a catcher, but made the move to third, as many others have.


I might be wrong there... Since I was a kid, I could've sworn he started as a catcher and moved to third, but I can't find anything confirming that, even from his college days. My mistake.
 
2012-02-28 01:55:33 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Varitek did a ton of roids on that 2003 team with Giambi Millar, Ortiz, Manny, Nixon, Gapler, et al, but he did manage to nail Erin Andrews, so you gotta give him some props for that.

 
2012-02-28 02:10:00 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: chimp_ninja: He gave the Red Sox a league-average bat at a premium position, which he played with overall average defensive ability. (His arm was always weak, but he was reasonably good at preventing PB/WP, and didn't make many throwing errors.) He stayed mostly healthy over a long career-- 30th all time in games behind the plate.

And if he'd done all that in Seattle we wouldn't have this thread because nobody would care.


I think you'd still sound concerned.
 
2012-02-28 02:13:36 PM  

PunchDrunkPanda: Yanks_RSJ: chimp_ninja: He gave the Red Sox a league-average bat at a premium position, which he played with overall average defensive ability. (His arm was always weak, but he was reasonably good at preventing PB/WP, and didn't make many throwing errors.) He stayed mostly healthy over a long career-- 30th all time in games behind the plate.

And if he'd done all that in Seattle we wouldn't have this thread because nobody would care.

I think you'd still sound concerned.


We're not concerned about career 98 OPS+ players.
 
2012-02-28 02:18:36 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: And if he'd done all that in Seattle we wouldn't have this thread because nobody would care.


If a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its booty when it walked.
 
2012-02-28 02:20:31 PM  

H31N0US: Varitek did a ton of roids on that 2003 team with Giambi


Look! We found Jeremy Giambi's fan!
 
2012-02-28 02:39:31 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: chimp_ninja: He gave the Red Sox a league-average bat at a premium position, which he played with overall average defensive ability. (His arm was always weak, but he was reasonably good at preventing PB/WP, and didn't make many throwing errors.) He stayed mostly healthy over a long career-- 30th all time in games behind the plate.

And if he'd done all that in Seattle we wouldn't have this thread because nobody would care.


And if he'd done all that in New York you'd be arguing he was one of the greats who deserved to be in the Hall ... and he'd probably get in, too.
 
2012-02-28 02:41:54 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: PunchDrunkPanda: Yanks_RSJ: chimp_ninja: He gave the Red Sox a league-average bat at a premium position, which he played with overall average defensive ability. (His arm was always weak, but he was reasonably good at preventing PB/WP, and didn't make many throwing errors.) He stayed mostly healthy over a long career-- 30th all time in games behind the plate.

And if he'd done all that in Seattle we wouldn't have this thread because nobody would care.

I think you'd still sound concerned.

We're not concerned about career 98 OPS+ players.


Just bitter? Gotcha.
 
2012-02-28 02:43:03 PM  

ghoulie_mask: And if he'd done all that in New York you'd be arguing he was one of the greats who deserved to be in the Hall ... and he'd probably get in, too.


Nah. He's clearly below Posada, and even I think Posada falls just short of qualifying.
 
2012-02-28 02:44:27 PM  

ghoulie_mask: And if he'd done all that in New York you'd be arguing he was one of the greats who deserved to be in the Hall ... and he'd probably get in, too.


Well if that's the case, you shouldn't have any trouble finding a direct quote from me saying as much about the vastly superior Jorge Posada in his retirement thread.

I'll wait...
 
2012-02-28 02:51:10 PM  
Ahhhhh, I remember now, this is Fark. Let the pissing match begin.
 
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