SkunkWerks: Your Average Witty Fark User: Hey look, it's the bulk of Fark.

...of which you're just an average, witty user?

Aphoticamy: I'm more or less impervious to trolls, because to respond to them gives them what they want. To claim "I was bullied" is a load of crap. I was farking tormented until 10th grade and you don't see me driving a hearse down the street of a little girl who is dying or--you know what, I'm not even going to give this woman any more talk time. I'm so glad I don't live within sane driving distance of that coont. Every day would start like "Amy, you are NOT going to jail today, riiiiiiiiiight?" from my husband, because I would want to murder her.

You sound Ironic.

Don'tcha think? IT'S LIKE RAAAAAAAAAIN ON YOUR WEDDING DAYYYYYYYYYYY IT'S A FREEEE RIDE WHEN YOU'VE ALREADY PAID IT'S THE GOOOOD ADVICE THAT YOU JUST. CAN'T TAKE.

And who would have thought? It figures.

doubled99: Truly don't understand why people get all worked up calling out trolls. If you don't feel they're genuine or are posting idiocies just to anger you, then simply ignore them.
If you spent time arguing or debating with them and were into the discussion, then what's the difference if they were "trolling" or not? You came here to bullshiat and kill time. Mission accomplished.

Wreckless use of Internet logic, you will be penalized 10 Internet yards for that comment.

Farkers, behold the art of trolling:

Farkers can only dream of achieving this skill (new window)

Why is this the pinnacle of trolling?

Because it comes from everywhere:

-Major news site posts almost all anti-union articles, and allows for people to vote on comments since major transit strike began almost a month ago
-Private business offers to run a ferry service after 3.5 weeks into a major transit strike, and thus makes the news, and is trolling the bus drivers on strike
-90% of the commenters sit on major news site to post ridiculous comments all hours of the day against bus drivers, and 90% of those commenters don't even live where the transit strike is occuring, and thus get any pro-union people worked up in a tizzy, and make them look like they are trolls.

The CBC is glorious. I can only wish to aspire to the level of troll-fu those commenters have.

Aphoticamy: And who would have thought? It figures.

Your humps make figures.

Aphoticamy: And who would have thought? It figures.

AAAARRRgggghhhhh. I have 10,000 spoons, and all I need is a goddam knife!

/there should be a word for that

Skr: That is awesome. I have deepest respect for those that scam the scammers. The ones that get money from the Nigerian scammers are also high on my respect list.

What makes it even better is that a lot of them thought I was still actually their real friend even after I changed their passwords. I can't count how many times I had scammers tell me that they were going to kick my ass the next day at school.

--- more or less the ridiculous conversation went like this

Me : "hey so and so this is one of your friends, can you guess who I am?"
Victim : "says a friends name"
Me : "nope guess again" (I'd usually wait till the 2nd or 3rd guess in case they threw out a fake name)
Victim : "says 2nd friend"
Me : "ding ding ding, you win! What's goin on?"
Victim : "hey man"

//small talk for about 10 mins

Me : "hey I have tons of new gear, do you want to log on to my mules while I hop on your main to see if there is anything you want to transfer?"
Victim : "Sure, my acct name/pass is ***/***"
Me : "Cool, my mules are ***/***"

//We both log off, I change his password, he logs in and finds out it is a real account but after checking the inventory and stash he finds nothing

victim on my empty account : "WTF?! hey there is nothing here"
me on victims account : ":)"

//Victim tries to log in to his account, invalid password, then logs back into the empty mule

victim : "OMG, I'm going to kick your ass at school. this is farking bullshiat"
victim : "Why would you do this to your friend? and so on"

I'd just let it fester in them that I was playing on their account at that point but not responding, the pleas would keep on coming :)

/sorry if any of you had a scammer friend in D2 kick your ass, it was probably my fault.

untaken_name: Aphoticamy: And who would have thought? It figures.

AAAARRRgggghhhhh. I have 10,000 spoons, and all I need is a goddam knife!

/there should be a word for that

Yeah, that's all he/she/whatever managed to do is get that farking song stuck in my head...time for a channel change. CLICKCLICKCLICKCLICK

Trolling: what ugly people do for attention.

I love to agree with people and start this whole love fest where everyone is agreeing with me, but secretly I totally disagree, and I laugh all night at the idiots who think I'm agreeing with them when I actually think what they believe is totally stupid. Hah.

/not really but that makes as much sense as any other kind of trolling to me

NFA: "BEN spends up to 70 hours a week on the internet getting high on other people's anger and despair."


Then I would say there is a high probability that BEN is an undiagnosed sociopath.

Sociopaths are almost always undiagnosed, because they are freaky paranoid about avoiding anyplace they could possibly be diagnosed. If they have to go someplace they could possibly get diagnosed, they typically try to keep their mask firmly in place and avoid diagnosis.

Usually sociopaths only end up in therapy if cornered or court ordered.

They and narcissists are one of the reasons I have the saying, "Just because he's not diagnosed doesn't mean he's not diagnosable."

There are a lot of people walking around out there without a diagnosis that qualify for one.

This "the internet made them do it" that the journalist implies in the article is a bunch of crap. The people she quotes didn't get their lack of empathy on the internet. What they got on the internet was a consequence-free source of social victims.

And as for picking victims, trolls do what sociopaths and narcissists usually do---they go after the low-hanging fruit.

This article actually confirms how I always imagine the trolls:

"The unemployed 19-year-old from Victoria... doesn't go out much and doesn't have many real friends..."

"...he probably wouldn't have started trolling if he had not been bullied at school."

"Sarah, like Ben, attributed her trolling to years of bullying she suffered at school."

"You're far more likely to be a troll if you're a relative weakling elsewhere..."

"The internet is kind of a Wizard of Oz type setting, where people can feel big, whereas in another social setting they can be, well, pissheads frankly."

Kind of hard to get angry when you see how sad their lives really are.

Keeve: This article actually confirms how I always imagine the trolls:

"The unemployed 19-year-old from Victoria... doesn't go out much and doesn't have many real friends..."

"...he probably wouldn't have started trolling if he had not been bullied at school."

"Sarah, like Ben, attributed her trolling to years of bullying she suffered at school."

"You're far more likely to be a troll if you're a relative weakling elsewhere..."

"The internet is kind of a Wizard of Oz type setting, where people can feel big, whereas in another social setting they can be, well, pissheads frankly."

Kind of hard to get angry when you see how sad their lives really are.

No it isn't. They're still responsible for their own behavior. Just because they have sad lives doesn't mean that it's acceptable for them to be flaming dickheads. That kind of namby-pamby, "Oh, those poor things, no wonder they lash out" bullshiat is not helping. They need therapy and possibly medication, not a pat on the head and an "Awwww, you poor wittle victim."

"Help me mummy, It's hot in Hell" is over the line. However, I find 'How's it hanging guys' to be hilarious.

I created this alt just for this thread: it's acceptable for them to be flaming dickheads.

Yes, it is. Being a dickhead isn't a crime in this country... yet.



Even being a flaming dickhead is only a misdemeanor.

Maybe putting up a memorial for a loved one on the internet for all the world to comment on isn't a good idea.

doubled99: Maybe putting up a memorial for a loved one on the internet for all the world to comment on isn't a good idea.

Considering how often "IRL" memorial sites (most notably, grave sites) are routinely vandalized, you'd think more people would consider this.

I live in the styx here in New England- a few thousand people in a 20 square mile area that is mostly state forest. Yet, somehow, kids still seem to find a way to bust, topple and otherwise deface grave sites.

Oddly enough, they target the little out of the way family plots (the kind you can't have anymore, but are preserved for historical significance)...

...containing two-to-three-hundred year old graves.

So just what the hell do you think people (yes, they're still members of your species and you ought to know them better than this) are going to do to a MySpace or Facebook memorial page, hmm?

I created this alt just for this thread: Keeve: This article actually confirms how I always imagine the trolls:

"The unemployed 19-year-old from Victoria... doesn't go out much and doesn't have many real friends..."

"...he probably wouldn't have started trolling if he had not been bullied at school."

"Sarah, like Ben, attributed her trolling to years of bullying she suffered at school."

"You're far more likely to be a troll if you're a relative weakling elsewhere..."

"The internet is kind of a Wizard of Oz type setting, where people can feel big, whereas in another social setting they can be, well, pissheads frankly."

Kind of hard to get angry when you see how sad their lives really are.

No it isn't. They're still responsible for their own behavior. Just because they have sad lives doesn't mean that it's acceptable for them to be flaming dickheads. That kind of namby-pamby, "Oh, those poor things, no wonder they lash out" bullshiat is not helping. They need therapy and possibly medication, not a pat on the head and an "Awwww, you poor wittle victim."

Yes, I kind of mis-spoke because that's not how I feel about them at all. Replacing "sad" with "pathetic" in my original post might be more accurate. I don't see them as a victim at all, nor do I see them as someone with any semblance of power. I just see them as pathetic.

Mugato: This kid should be tracked and monitored. I guarantee lives would be saved eventually.

And trolling is not an art. It's a sad, annoying habit.

He needs to be isolated and studied so that it can be determined what nutrients he might have that could be extracted for our personal use.

/best solution for trolls
//and old people

JohnAnnArbor: I pointed out it was basically evolution in action AND extreme irony ("look how safe this is, guys!" *splat*), which as you can imagine did not go over too well.
I guess that fits with trolling. But I was genuinely perplexed as to why the various enthusiasts couldn't grasp that she was, alone, to blame. Trying to blame the authorities and/or her equipment was just lame. She blew it, and paid with her life. It's a sad fact, but it's a fact, and avoiding that fact is foolish.

You weren't trolling then, unless you went to the meeting specifically to piss people off. If you went because you were interested in it, then said what you said because that's what you believed, it's not trolling.

I think that trolling is saying things that you don't believe, or ramping up some minor statement about something just to piss others off.

NFA: "BEN spends up to 70 hours a week on the internet getting high on other people's anger and despair."


Then I would say there is a high probability that BEN is an undiagnosed sociopath Farker.

FTFY.
/What's his handle?

Keeve: This article actually confirms how I always imagine the trolls:

This article actually confirms how I always imagine the trolls:

THIS x 1000

Sad, sad, sad pathetic little lives they CHOOSE to live.

Gothnet: Sunny Ray, now there was a troll. These arseholes in TFA are just that, hateful arseholes.

Sunny was the real deal. He'd drag people in, he'd say things that were contentious and just slightly wrong, he'd catch multiple people in his net and draw them in, slowly turning up the heat until they were *fuming* and ranting at him, all the while he kept his cool. Never resorted to insults, namecalling or belittling people.

Sunny, the account, had to move on when people got to know him and (I was guilty of this once or twice) would post "Oooh, let's seit back and watch, this oughta be good" whenever he showed up. But while it lasted it was awesome entertainment.

Sunny Ray [TotalFark] 2007-05-18 01:24:50 PM
I think Ms. Coulter definitely believes everything that she writes and says in her political musings. Nobody would seriously want to waste their time and the time of others by trolling just for sport.

Julie Cochrane: Usually sociopaths only end up in therapy if cornered or court ordered.

Therapy actually worsens sociopathic behavior in these individuals.

There's pretty much zero chance of reforming them.

I never understood the whole 'memorial' thing. I mean honestly, was the person that died so important that the rest of the world needs to stop, reflect on how that person lived, and realize how much was lost when this person died?

It's like the memorial on one of the roads that has claimed many lives, yet it's just the one memorial that is there, that specifically mentions one person that died. All I could think of was how insulting it was to the rest of the people that died in the spot, but deserves no mention.

I like how they all say they only troll because they were bullied in highschool. GTFO. What a pathetic excuse. Nearly everyone is bullied sometime in their life, one way or another. You're just a dick on the internet.

SkunkWerks: I created this alt just for this thread: it's acceptable for them to be flaming dickheads.

Yes, it is. Being a dickhead isn't a crime in this country... yet.



Even being a flaming dickhead is only a misdemeanor.

If you are a huge inflamed flaming dickhead they nominate you for public office.

He said the worst thing he ever did was vandalise the Facebook memorial page of a young girl who had committed suicide. "I wrote, 'How's it hanging guys'."


That's kinda funny.

jaylectricity: I usually favorite the trolls in grey. The darkest grey if they are just too stupid read. I'd put them on ignore but if they're posting a bunch in one thread I'll look at a couple of them to see if they've changed their schtick. The lightest grey if they're pretty good at it. Or the lightest green if they make me laugh.

I have a similar "six strikes and you're out" policy. Various "bad things" someone says gets you a progressively darker shade, until eventually you end up on the ignore list, but any "good thing" you say gets you shifted into a different track. Well, I'm sure you don't care about the details but the point is, sending someone directly to the ignore list is a pretty bad idea. Most people have redeeming qualities.

ciberido: I have a similar "six strikes and you're out" policy. Various "bad things" someone says gets you a progressively darker shade, until eventually you end up on the ignore list, but any "good thing" you say gets you shifted into a different track. Well, I'm sure you don't care about the details but the point is, sending someone directly to the ignore list is a pretty bad idea. Most people have redeeming qualities.

That sounds like a lot of effort, you take this shiat too seriously.

BohemianGraham: Farkers, behold the art of trolling:

Farkers can only dream of achieving this skill (new window)

Why is this the pinnacle of trolling?

Yeah, I don't want to get in the middle of what ever THAT is to you.

trappedspirit: BohemianGraham: Farkers, behold the art of trolling:

Farkers can only dream of achieving this skill (new window)

Why is this the pinnacle of trolling?

Yeah, I don't want to get in the middle of what ever THAT is to you.

It's yet another story on the month old transit strike that currently plagues where I live. The comments and hate towards the bus drivers is highest form of trolling possible, and many of the commenters just seem to be pathetic, self-centred individuals.

untaken_name: dready zim: Someone who does not like liberty is NOT a liberal, the clues are in the words...

The only difference in America between "liberals" and "conservatives" is what they want to restrict you from doing.

Yep! Most liberals want people to be able to do pretty much anything as long as it doesn't hurt someone else against their will, while conservatives want to be able to do anything they want, including things that hurt others, while still telling everybody else what they can't do. So yeah, you pretty much nailed it.....except not.

I troll, but I don't troll to be an ass. I troll to create cognitive dissonance and thereby cause the viewer to question existing belief structures.



A conclusion is simply where you stopped thinking.
Alarm clocks kill dreams.
Black sheep are still sheep.

Mugato: The only thing "smaller gov't" means is less social programs that they have to pay for. That's all. It has nothing to do with letting people do things. Except own guns. But no one's trying to take your guns anyway. So don't buy the small gov't bullshiat.

Exactly. Except for the parts about ending the War on Drugs, legalizing gambling, legalizing prostitution, ending the War on Terrah, ending subsidies, etc, etc...

TV's Vinnie: Some "people" are made by God to be trolled. Chris Chan is one such creature (look up the name on Google or You Tube if you dare).
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No, see Chris-chan is the perfect example to me of how there is a difference between 'trolling' and 'sociopathy'. Stirring the shiat in an online discussion to see what floats to the top is 'trolling'. Tormenting the mentally ill in real life falls under 'sociopathy'.

Coelacanth: thespindrifter: Somehow, I thought for sure this was going to be the epitaph of Harlan Ellison©™®

Careful. He'll get you for saying that.

There, is he happy now?

(No, of course not; if bitterness and anger are fuel, that man will live to see the end of the Universe.)

See,

I'm a reverse troll, then, b/c I'd rather you laugh than be angry,

and if I'm lucky,

you

might

think!

;)

Canned Tamales: untaken_name: dready zim: Someone who does not like liberty is NOT a liberal, the clues are in the words...

The only difference in America between "liberals" and "conservatives" is what they want to restrict you from doing.

Yep! Most liberals want people to be able to do pretty much anything as long as it doesn't hurt someone else against their will, while conservatives want to be able to do anything they want, including things that hurt others, while still telling everybody else what they can't do. So yeah, you pretty much nailed it.....except not.

Right, because it's conservatives who make things like holocaust denial into crimes.....also, both "sides" want to increase the size, scope, and authority of government. That's not in question, since the last 5 Presidents and their Congresses have ALL done so without exception, no matter whether the Congress or the President was nominally liberal or conservative. When the size, scope, and authority of government is increased, that necessarily limits the liberty of the governed. Things like licensing garage sales and lemonade stands and confiscating money and charging it with a crime - those things are done by nominal conservatives and nominal liberals alike. You need to get yourself out of the false dichotomy that is partisan politics in America.

ELF Radio: I like going to extreme right-wing sites and posting thoughtful, reasonable comments that urge fairness and decency towards all, with a decidedly liberal bent on social issues. (Mosque near ground zero okay, gay marriage just fine, Obama not that bad.)

They call me a troll. I guess it's in the eye of the beholder.

If you present a reasonably well laid out point opposite from the prevailing opinion you're probably going to get labeled a troll regardless.

BoothbyTCD: TV's Vinnie: Some "people" are made by God to be trolled. Chris Chan is one such creature (look up the name on Google or You Tube if you dare).
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No, see Chris-chan is the perfect example to me of how there is a difference between 'trolling' and 'sociopathy'. Stirring the shiat in an online discussion to see what floats to the top is 'trolling'. Tormenting the mentally ill in real life falls under 'sociopathy'.

mydogateit:
Sunny was the real deal. He'd drag people in, he'd say things that were contentious and just slightly wrong, he'd catch multiple people in his net and draw them in, slowly turning up the heat until they were *fuming* and ranting at him, all the while he kept his cool. Never resorted to insults, namecalling or belittling people.
Sunny, the account, had to move on when people got to know him and (I was guilty of this once or twice) would post "Oooh, let's seit back and watch, this oughta be good" whenever he showed up. But while it lasted it was awesome entertainment.
Sunny Ray [TotalFark] 2007-05-18 01:24:50 PM
I think Ms. Coulter definitely believes everything that she writes and says in her political musings. Nobody would seriously want to waste their time and the time of others by trolling just for sport.

I can't believe that anyone ever took him seriously "Sunny Ray" FFS? I had him in bright orange from day one. He was funny.

TV's Vinnie: BoothbyTCD: TV's Vinnie: Some "people" are made by God to be trolled. Chris Chan is one such creature (look up the name on Google or You Tube if you dare).
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No, see Chris-chan is the perfect example to me of how there is a difference between 'trolling' and 'sociopathy'. Stirring the shiat in an online discussion to see what floats to the top is 'trolling'. Tormenting the mentally ill in real life falls under 'sociopathy'.

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