Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: When I was a kid, I hated Bill Clinton and listened to Rush Limbaugh. I was such a conservative little prick.

You too, eh?

RexTalionis: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: When I was a kid, I hated Bill Clinton and listened to Rush Limbaugh. I was such a conservative little prick.

You too, eh?

Same here.

As long as there are right-wing authoritarians there will be Republican voters. Even if the party itself dies (which, in the short term, I doubt) they'll be replaced. The best possible result is a realignment with a progressive/socialist/labor party and the Dems becoming the new right-wing party, but sooner or later we'll be at this point again.

CapnBlues: A good friend of mine was the same way. Voted for Bush in 2000, supported the Iraq War, then felt horribly betrayed after they never found any WMD's. He's not exactly a democrat now, but he's certainly no republican.

I left my religion and then woke up. This happened during the election of '00. To be honest, I wasn't paying attention to any of it. But I came around quickly and was appalled by it all by early summer of '01.

A scene from next week's episode of "The Walking Dead".

soy_bomb: The Republican Party is a marginalized, regional party.

When I first heard this, I wondered to myself if this meant they'd be successful in taking the House of Representatives. Even state Legislatures. These are regional entities. This was back in '08...ish? I think. Anyways, long before the '10 elections.

Mrtraveler01: Jake Havechek: The "historic wins" in the mid terms of 2010 don't mean all that much any more, eh GOP?

As you've seen with the trolls, that's basically all they got left. The fact their approval numbers took a turn South and hasn't stopped since doesn't mean anything to them...because they still think they're in their glory days (2010).

They'll even ignore things like this?

The same panic courses through a new tome by James DeMint, who has made himself probably the most influential member of the Senate by relentlessly pushing his colleagues to the right and organizing primary challenges to snuff out any hint of moderation among his co-partisans. DeMint's book, titled Now or Never, paints a haunting picture: "Republican supporters will continue to decrease every year as more Americans become dependent on the government. Dependent voters will naturally elect even big-government progressives who will continue to smother economic growth and spend America deeper into debt. The 2012 election may be the last opportunity for Republicans."

That apocalyptic rhetoric is just as common among voters as among conservative eggheads and party elites.

CapnBlues: Nadie_AZ: CapnBlues: A good friend of mine was the same way. Voted for Bush in 2000, supported the Iraq War, then felt horribly betrayed after they never found any WMD's. He's not exactly a democrat now, but he's certainly no republican.

I left my religion and then woke up. This happened during the election of '00. To be honest, I wasn't paying attention to any of it. But I came around quickly and was appalled by it all by early summer of '01.

i feel very fortunate that my old man went to Oberlin, and thus our politics at home were pretty progressive, particularly given how hillbilly the demographics of my hometown are. Early summer '01, I was in England and a guy asked me if i'd heard what our president had done. It was something to do with the Kyoto protocols or something, but when I had to say no, I realized that it was time to start paying attention to politics and policy.

I found myself very fortunate. I took a job that placed me with people from the Middle East and India. I began to ask a lot of questions- and they were happy to talk to me. I learned a lot in '01 and '02 and saw the world differently as a result. They turned me on to international news and looking at the world and the US through a different lens.

Nadie_AZ: RexTalionis: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: When I was a kid, I hated Bill Clinton and listened to Rush Limbaugh. I was such a conservative little prick.

You too, eh?

Same here.

Same here.

Here is what is happening. Reagan was good, dems were bad (as in, they couldn't get anyone worth shiat to run in the 80s). GOP was strong, I grew up in conservative household, we were given red meat about Clinton for years and I bought into it, then I got older and saw how breathtakingly bad Bush was and saw it in contrast to Clinton and that was it. And by virtue of that switch and sudden vitriol for the GOP, and now this cavernous depth of shiat that they are going in to, we folks who bailed at Bush are so monumentally disgusted by where we came from. Reagan was no saint, but a retard he ain't.

//so vote Zombie Reagan

Nadie_AZ: RexTalionis: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: When I was a kid, I hated Bill Clinton and listened to Rush Limbaugh. I was such a conservative little prick.

You too, eh?

Same here.

I was a libertarian semi-Randroid when I was a teenager. Then I grew up and got a job, and now I'm an anarcho-socialist.

cabbyman: Jake Havechek: cabbyman: People mistrust the government in greater numbers now more than ever before. T

That tends to happen when you get 5000+ of their sons and daughters killed in Iraq for no farking reason.

I know! It's crazy that Obama just keeps that war of choice going and now he wants to add Syria to the list! Good grief!

Just one passing difference, you mouth breathing MENSA candidate:

Was there genocide or civil unrest in a massive scale in Iraq BEFORE we invaded? Yes.
Was it even within 10 years of our entering said war? No.
Was it our reason to go to war? No.
What was our reason to go to war?

I'll let you answer the last one, Foxy Newsy. Hint: Talk to Eric Bolling, ya tard!

cabbyman: Mrtraveler01: cabbyman: Also, the 2010 elections laugh in their faces.

It's cute that you think the Tea Party is still as popular now as it was then. Most people are seeing them as the group of dumbasses they really are.

Most people did back then, too. Remember how people made fun of them and laughed at them back then? Perhaps you're misremembering things?

It's also cute that you think any party's loss is another party's gain at this point. People mistrust the government in greater numbers now more than ever before. They want less of it.

Sounds like a Tea Party win to me...


I think you are misspelling "Government"... in the way that you are using it -it is spelled "Gubamint". (new window)

A Dark Evil Omen: Nadie_AZ: RexTalionis: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: When I was a kid, I hated Bill Clinton and listened to Rush Limbaugh. I was such a conservative little prick.

You too, eh?

Same here.

I was a libertarian semi-Randroid when I was a teenager. Then I grew up and got a job, and now I'm an anarcho-socialist.

I have come to the conclusion that collegiates who are Randroids are either:

a) just wanting to get high and/or
b) still running in some conservative circles so this is their way of being "liberal" and "acceptable" at the same time.

In the cold calculus of game theory, the expected response to this state of affairs would be to accommodate yourself to the growing strength of the opposing coalition-to persuade pockets of voters on the Democratic margins they might be better served by Republicans.

And we're still waiting for those reasons why voting Republican is a good idea for us. "BECAUSE SOCIALISM" just ain't cutting it.

Lando Lincoln: In the cold calculus of game theory, the expected response to this state of affairs would be to accommodate yourself to the growing strength of the opposing coalition-to persuade pockets of voters on the Democratic margins they might be better served by Republicans.

And we're still waiting for those reasons why voting Republican is a good idea for us. "BECAUSE SOCIALISM" just ain't cutting it.

Reasons to vote Republican:

- Because socialism.

- Because Jesus.

- Because hippies.

- Because the Democrats are only somewhat better than the Republicans.

I mean, I could keep going but it's a pretty solid list. Convincing!