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(New York Magazine)   Why the Republican party is a dying entity   (nymag.com) divider line 317
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2012-02-27 11:43:21 AM  
Because its no longer about economic view points and instead about who loves jesus more?
 
2012-02-27 11:54:15 AM  
2012-01-28 12:51:15 PM
The GOP needs to Jettison their strange merger of neoconservative foreign policies and neoliberal economic policies.
Thats whats screwed.
Been saying this for years.

Benevolent Misanthrope: The GOP is amazingly inept, politically.

its their paradigm(s) or the fusion of them that creates this inept worldview. Any candidate that works with these paradigms is going to be working with a broken paradigm. Any candidate that breaks free of these paradigms is seen as being a RINO or some pejorative that describes someone who is outside of the accepted paradigm.

Thats all there is to it.
 
2012-02-27 11:57:57 AM  
I'll guess "self-inflicted irrelevance"?
 
2012-02-27 12:13:59 PM  
Because they're driving folks away in order to drum up a dying market share?
 
2012-02-27 12:28:06 PM  
Let's not discount the combination of Bush's policies and his administration's tendency to take somewhat reasonable Republicans with a bright future and make them unelectable through association with his policies, leaving the party with only candidates who either ran against him or candidates who were too ridiculous even for W.
 
2012-02-27 12:44:02 PM  
Here's the summary paragraph from the article for all you tl;dr folks.

"the party has decided to bet everything on its one "last chance." Not the last chance for the Republican Party to win power-there will be many of those, and over time it will surely learn to compete for nonwhite voters-but its last chance to exercise power in its current form, as a party of anti-government fundamentalism powered by sublimated white Christian identity politics."
 
2012-02-27 01:00:23 PM  
I thought it was bleeding obvious that old people tend to die off an alarming rate. So when you refuse to court younger voters, your demographics shrink pretty quickly.
 
2012-02-27 01:01:49 PM  
This article (new window) is much more interesting.
 
2012-02-27 01:10:15 PM  
images.nymag.com

This image says it all.

But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...
 
2012-02-27 01:25:46 PM  
images.nymag.com

The Obsolete Honkey community frowns upon your shenanigans, anything that has happened since 1950.
 
2012-02-27 01:28:54 PM  
Because this isn't a winning strategy in the long run...

lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-02-27 01:36:49 PM  
White people problems.
 
2012-02-27 02:02:32 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: [images.nymag.com image 560x420]

The Obsolete Honkey community frowns upon your shenanigans, anything that has happened since 1950.


I'd tap the one on the left

/no not the kid you sick f**ks
 
2012-02-27 02:05:14 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: [images.nymag.com image 560x420]

The Obsolete Honkey community frowns upon your shenanigans, anything that has happened since 1950.


What kind of ironic here, is that once most of the (few) younger kids in the audience go off to college (which their parents will highly encourage, despite Santorum's advice to the contrary), they stand a decent chance of turning into Democratic voters by the time they graduate. You see, exposure to the real world, on a campus full of diverse people and opinions, has a habit of shattering the narrow world view that their parents spent years cultivating like the thin glass that it always was.
 
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2012-02-27 02:05:55 PM  
It has been obvious for some time that the Republican party has nothing policy wise, but I worry about the special interests. The reason most countries are poorer that us isn't because they have high taxes or because they are lazy or stupid. It's because a small group of people control the government and run it for their benefit. If we get to that point then we are farked.
 
2012-02-27 02:08:09 PM  
Funny - I remember reading the same article about the demise of the democrats after the midterm elections in 1994.

Too bad the prognostications were not true.
 
2012-02-27 02:19:28 PM  
The article basically argues that educated white people and minorities tend to vote for Democrats, and as more people are college educated and minorities make up a larger part of the electorate, the numbers shift in the Republican's favor.
 
2012-02-27 02:19:52 PM  
www.epicfail.net
 
2012-02-27 02:55:00 PM  
That was actually a much better written article than the headline suggests.
 
2012-02-27 02:55:33 PM  
Yes, but like a venomous snake, it can still do a LOT of damage in it's death throes.
 
2012-02-27 03:13:17 PM  
Because the rest of America is dying?
 
2012-02-27 03:13:50 PM  
Because Margaret Hoover is dead on, and the (smart) youth is leaving the GOP entirely?
 
2012-02-27 03:14:24 PM  
This explains everything the GOP is doing here in Arizona.

They want to press down so hard on hispanics that none of them would vote (else they might get arrested and detained by the Joe squad). They want to set a financial barrier in place for all non-student athletes in our Universities. They want to keep cutting back Publice Education. They keep building more private prisons.

So, basically, this is the last gasp of a scared white folk that will no longer be relevant in 10 or 15 years. Good.
 
2012-02-27 03:18:21 PM  
Old news is old. Barry Goldwater called it 20+ years ago:

Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.

I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism."


(Two quotes, from 1994 and 1981.)
 
2012-02-27 03:19:16 PM  
www.moonofalabama.org

They're just not conservative enough.
 
2012-02-27 03:19:53 PM  
The GOP will be in good shape for at least 8 more years. They won big last election 2 years ago allowing them to gerrymander the districts to their favor. The GOP was shameless about it too. They may lose some of those seats this election but the districts are still drawn in the GOP's favor so there won't be the blood bath the GOP deserves.
 
2012-02-27 03:20:22 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: [images.nymag.com image 560x420]

The Obsolete Honkey community frowns upon your shenanigans, anything that has happened since 1950.


They like getting rid of unions for some reason.
 
2012-02-27 03:21:59 PM  

Muta: The GOP will be in good shape for at least 8 more years. They won big last election 2 years ago allowing them to gerrymander the districts to their favor. The GOP was shameless about it too. They may lose some of those seats this election but the districts are still drawn in the GOP's favor so there won't be the blood bath the GOP deserves.


8 years and 25% of GOP voters will be dead of old age.
 
2012-02-27 03:23:59 PM  
Ah, time for the quarterly "X Party is DYING and this is why" story.
 
2012-02-27 03:24:05 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: That was actually a much better written article than the headline suggests.


Wow, this.

Although, the article kinda leaves out Citizens United as a big, ancillary cause for this, but otherwise a really well thought out and well written article.
 
2012-02-27 03:24:07 PM  
LOL ...... can't help but laugh at the Santorum quote "We are reaching a tipping point, folks, when those who pay are the minority and those who receive are the majority.".


I mean.... the 1% have exactly WHAT proportion of the nations wealth? It seems entirely appropriate for the wealthy few to share.
 
2012-02-27 03:24:09 PM  

Muta: The GOP will be in good shape for at least 8 more years. They won big last election 2 years ago allowing them to gerrymander the districts to their favor. The GOP was shameless about it too. They may lose some of those seats this election but the districts are still drawn in the GOP's favor so there won't be the blood bath the GOP deserves.


even gerrymandering only gets you so far. you still need electoral majorities, which you can't get if your base is dying off and/or seeing through your lies. also, as long as they keep harping on the anti-gay/anti-woman agenda, they're not going to have much enthusiasm from the youth vote. A substantial portion of my generation (30 yrs old, +/- four or five years) will never trust the Republicans ever again after their lies about the Iraq war.
 
2012-02-27 03:24:12 PM  
Because socialism? Acorn? Hollywood? Lamestream media? Death panels? Michael Moore? Tire inflation? Girl Scouts? Black Panthers?
 
2012-02-27 03:25:48 PM  
No, it isn't. The electoral public's memory is short - it can't hold any memory for longer than a year and a half at a time.

And people forget the general consensus that a lot of the immigrants are actually fairly conservative - especially Latinos and new Asian immigrants. The GOP can appeal to them if it doesn't spend so much time making them feel like third-class citizens.

/Not being a GOP shill, just the political landscape as I see it.
 
2012-02-27 03:27:27 PM  

vernonFL: [www.epicfail.net image 571x402]


I want a VE thread just for captioning what that old fatso on the right is thinking while he's asleep.

"zzzzzz ... back then, no blacks.... zzzzzz *snort* ... far as the eye could see.... zzzzzzzz"
 
2012-02-27 03:28:21 PM  
So the New Yorker thinks the Republican party is dying?

This is an important change in their past reporting!

Also, the 2010 elections laugh in their faces.
 
2012-02-27 03:28:59 PM  
Perhaps the party should be out shopping for a burial plot, instead of providing more examples of why its death should happen sooner, rather than later.
 
2012-02-27 03:29:55 PM  
Again. The Republican Party will become the next Progressive Party.

They will have no where else to go.
 
2012-02-27 03:30:30 PM  

Muta: They won big last election 2 years ago allowing them to gerrymander the districts to their favor.


Isn't winning half the legislature technically a tie? At best a moderate win?
 
2012-02-27 03:30:43 PM  
Republicans are DOOMED!
 
2012-02-27 03:31:06 PM  
 
2012-02-27 03:31:09 PM  

El Pachuco: [www.moonofalabama.org image 300x265]

They're just not conservative enough.



As long as there is paint left in the can, they have a chance.
 
2012-02-27 03:31:15 PM  

cabbyman: So the New Yorker thinks the Republican party is dying?


Uh, New York magazine is not the New Yorker. You can tell the difference between the two because the New Yorker has an "er" on the end of it and uses a different font.
 
2012-02-27 03:31:21 PM  

mrshowrules: Muta: They won big last election 2 years ago allowing them to gerrymander the districts to their favor.

Isn't winning half the legislature technically a tie? At best a moderate win?


Big gains in the state legislatures where all of the district drawing is done, that is.
 
2012-02-27 03:31:34 PM  
You fool, Victor Frankenstein of Geneva, how could you know what you had unleashed? How was it pieced together? Bits of thieves? Bits of murderers? Evil stitched to evil stitched to evil. God help your loved ones.
 
2012-02-27 03:31:52 PM  
Why is the Republican party a dying entity?

i.usatoday.net

Hmmm, let me think...

4.bp.blogspot.com

No, I can't think of a reason...

www.dansdecals.com

There's gotta be a clue somewhere...

static5.businessinsider.com

Nope, not coming up with anything...

paulboylan.files.wordpress.com

Maybe somebody can fill me in?
 
2012-02-27 03:32:23 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: [images.nymag.com image 560x420]

The Obsolete Honkey community frowns upon your shenanigans, anything that has happened since 1950.


I laughed way too hard...
 
2012-02-27 03:32:35 PM  

Dr.Zom: Because socialism? Acorn? Hollywood? Lamestream media? Death panels? Michael Moore? Tire inflation? Girl Scouts? Black Panthers?


No, because Obama solved our high gas prices with algae.
 
2012-02-27 03:32:38 PM  

CapnBlues: even gerrymandering only gets you so far. you still need electoral majorities, which you can't get if your base is dying off and/or seeing through your lies. also, as long as they keep harping on the anti-gay/anti-woman agenda, they're not going to have much enthusiasm from the youth vote. A substantial portion of my generation (30 yrs old, +/- four or five years) will never trust the Republicans ever again after their lies about the Iraq war.


When I was a kid, I hated Bill Clinton and listened to Rush Limbaugh. I was such a conservative little prick.
Then I got a job in IT in '96. Then I went to college in '98. Then I saw my country thrown into an 8-year spiral of bullshiat by the son of a man I admired (and still do - HW was a fine president)
These days? You couldn't get me to vote Republican with the promise of an infinite blowjob.
 
2012-02-27 03:33:56 PM  

RexTalionis: cabbyman: So the New Yorker thinks the Republican party is dying?

Uh, New York magazine is not the New Yorker. You can tell the difference between the two because the New Yorker has an "er" on the end of it and uses a different font.


OK, you got me. Obama can be President again.
 
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