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(Stars and Stripes)   Proving there's nothing they can't do, Navy SEALs take out Tyler Perry, Jennifer Aniston and Paul Rudd   (stripes.com) divider line 139
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2012-02-27 01:52:33 PM

RidersOfLohan: Note: SEALs are sailors.

note: some SEALs were marines and soldiers first


note: that doesn't matter you sillyvilian. they are still sailors.
 
2012-02-27 01:53:30 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: The dialogue delivery kinda blew though, but that's kinda what I expected.


I wonder what it would have sounded like if the producers had just given them the situation and let them write their own dialogue?

Probably just get a bunch of impenetrable acronyms and jargon, though.
 
2012-02-27 01:57:23 PM
 
2012-02-27 01:58:50 PM

Galloping Galoshes: danwiseman: It's a good movie because they use people who actually killed people!

No, but it was refreshing to see new faces, and to use folks who actually knew their character's jobs.

Would you prefer a military that eschewed killing? It IS in their job description.


No, it is refreshing to see good movies or at least something original. Not crap with a gimmick slapped on top.

The advertisements were a dead giveaway but I let my friend drag me along anyone.

BOOM real navy seals BOOM BOOM did we mention real navy seals? BOOM BOOM

But then again this is one of the slowest times of the year for film so I guess I shouldn't complain too much.
 
2012-02-27 01:59:40 PM
Ya know, there is an alternative to the vicarious thrills of watching combaty types on a screen.

You do not have to be limited to just imagineering and fantasy.

Uncle Sam Wants You!
 
2012-02-27 02:00:24 PM

Galloping Galoshes: I wonder what it would have sounded like if the producers had just given them the situation and let them write their own dialogue?


A bit better, probably, especially in the prep/battle scenes (which for the most part weren't too bad anyway). It was... honestly pretty bad everywhere else, especially when the two main dudes (can't remember their names) were talking to each other. There was a whole lot of "You say your line, now I say my line" going on. I was sitting in the theater thinking "I wonder which ones are the SEALs? *guys start talking* Oh. It's them." The rest of the movie was pretty farking awesome though.

/I was reminded of some comments the Rifftrax guys said in Battlefield Earth: "And turn, and act. And pause, and act."
 
2012-02-27 02:02:45 PM

FreetardoRivera: it is refreshing to see good movies or at least something original.


From Hollywood? Please. They're doing Bourne 4, for heaven's sake. Their motto is: Throw crap at the wall. If something sticks, make at least three of it.
 
2012-02-27 02:02:50 PM
They used real ammo while filming...first time since 1929.
 
2012-02-27 02:04:11 PM
I think it would be interesting to see this movie on an actual military base. Back when I was in basic (1988--Fort Wood, MO--ARNG weekend warrior) the drills took us to see the crapfest Rambo 3. Depite the fact that it was horrible action dreck--even by action movie standards, it was VERY popular with everyone in our company. Think of the Apocalypse Now scene in the movie Jarhead and you get the general atmosphere of the theater on base.

The mindset makes the movie...and I think this would be one of those flicks that would really get everyone riled up.
 
2012-02-27 02:04:21 PM
 
2012-02-27 02:08:03 PM

Thorndyke Barnhard: Rear Adm. Denny Moynihan, of the Navy Office of Information in Washington, explained that every four years the Defense Department "looks at itself and says, 'What is it that you need to be moving forward, and where do you think you are?' " He added, "For the Navy and the SEAL community it was, 'Hey, you need 500 more SEALs' and that launched a series of initiatives to try to attract more people. This film was one of those initiatives." (new window)

Drooling tools are gonna want to act like it's mad libtard trolling to call this movie what it is: Blatant tacky recruitment propaganda and stupid warmongering. And yet, there it is, straight from the pig's mouth.


I, for one, am absolutely shocked with suprise!
What an original idea.
And from a military mind.
 
2012-02-27 02:11:30 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Kit Fister: In other news. Critics generally panned it because it had nothing that could possibly sully or otherwise cast the US Navy in a bad light.

Casting the US in a bad or at least ambiguous light does seem a requirement in Hollywood these days.


You know, it would be quite easy for some studio to crank out a bunch of movies of higher quality than this one, but with the same basic worldview, and make a fortune. But caught in the left-wing echo chamber of Hollywood culture, they can't manage to notice how much money they're leaving on the table.
 
2012-02-27 02:12:48 PM

Thorndyke Barnhard: Rear Adm. Denny Moynihan, of the Navy Office of Information in Washington, explained that every four years the Defense Department "looks at itself and says, 'What is it that you need to be moving forward, and where do you think you are?' " He added, "For the Navy and the SEAL community it was, 'Hey, you need 500 more SEALs' and that launched a series of initiatives to try to attract more people. This film was one of those initiatives." (new window)

Drooling tools are gonna want to act like it's mad libtard trolling to call this movie what it is: Blatant tacky recruitment propaganda and stupid warmongering. And yet, there it is, straight from the pig's mouth.


Just because it's propaganda doesn't mean it's bad, or poorly done.
 
2012-02-27 02:13:29 PM

Thorndyke Barnhard: Drooling tools are gonna want to act like it's mad libtard trolling to call this movie what it is: Blatant tacky recruitment propaganda and stupid warmongering. And yet, there it is, straight from the pig's mouth.


Of course that's what it is. As far as I know, nobody has pretended it's anything other than that (the folks promoting it don't necessarily go out of their way to mention that fact, but they don't hide it either). It's still a fun farking movie.
 
2012-02-27 02:14:33 PM

Thorndyke Barnhard: Rear Adm. Denny Moynihan, of the Navy Office of Information in Washington, explained that every four years the Defense Department "looks at itself and says, 'What is it that you need to be moving forward, and where do you think you are?' " He added, "For the Navy and the SEAL community it was, 'Hey, you need 500 more SEALs' and that launched a series of initiatives to try to attract more people. This film was one of those initiatives." (new window)

Drooling tools are gonna want to act like it's mad libtard trolling to call this movie what it is: Blatant tacky recruitment propaganda and stupid warmongering. And yet, there it is, straight from the pig's mouth.


Then don't go. See it's that simple. You don't have to go. I know, that just seems too easy. But it really is that simple. Now I know you're thinking to yourself; 'if I don't like it, and I find it does not align with my political ideals, then no one should see it'. Well this is America, and America does not work that way. Even if it's a glamorized recruitment movie, people still have the right to watch it. Much like you have the same right to biatch about a movie, that you in all likelihood have not seen, nor even have the slightest notion of going to see.
Now sit back, take a hit off the bong, and enjoy the rest of the afternoon. Life's too short to get all butt-hurt over a movie.
 
2012-02-27 02:17:48 PM

Galloping Galoshes: FreetardoRivera: it is refreshing to see good movies or at least something original.

From Hollywood? Please. They're doing Bourne 4, for heaven's sake. Their motto is: Throw crap at the wall. If something sticks, make at least three of it.


So we are going to see two more Act of Valor sequels?

Act of Valor is in the same category as what you are complaining about.
 
2012-02-27 02:18:26 PM

This text is now purple: Just because it's propaganda doesn't mean it's bad, or poorly done.


I think you and I are just going to have to agree to disagree that overt jingoistic warmongering propaganda isn't inherently "bad".
 
2012-02-27 02:22:01 PM

Forgot_my_password_again: "About 85 percent of audiences liked it, the amalgam site says."

maybe because they thought they had to? Its unamerican to bad mouth anything about the military.


my 14 yr-old son and three of his swim-team buddies saw it.
they hated it.
when teen boys reject it - you know it is shiate!

/that money is spent
 
2012-02-27 02:22:37 PM

Thorndyke Barnhard: This text is now purple: Just because it's propaganda doesn't mean it's bad, or poorly done.

I think you and I are just going to have to agree to disagree that overt jingoistic warmongering propaganda isn't inherently "bad".


you must have hated g.i. joe cartoons
 
2012-02-27 02:24:54 PM

Thorndyke Barnhard: I think you and I are just going to have to agree to disagree that overt jingoistic warmongering propaganda isn't inherently "bad".


Why? Are you unable to ignore/discount someone else's opinion?
 
2012-02-27 02:25:22 PM
That you have to pay to see it removes most of the "zomg it is evil propaganda" wharblgarbl from whatever section of my brain contains wharblgarbl.

If they had free showings to all males in high school then my painties might get a little bunched.
 
2012-02-27 02:26:15 PM
Is there a recruitment booth in the theater lobby? That would be awesome.
 
2012-02-27 02:28:37 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Then don't go. See it's that simple. You don't have to go. I know, that just seems too easy. But it really is that simple. Now I know you're thinking to yourself; 'if I don't like it, and I find it does not align with my political ideals, then no one should see it'. Well this is America, and America does not work that way. Even if it's a glamorized recruitment movie, people still have the right to watch it. Much like you have the same right to biatch about a movie, that you in all likelihood have not seen, nor even have the slightest notion of going to see.
Now sit back, take a hit off the bong, and enjoy the rest of the afternoon. Life's too short to get all butt-hurt over a movie.


LOL! WTF are you talking about? I never said I felt compelled to see the movie (I said the opposite)and I never infringed on anyone's constitutional rights by expressing my opinions about the value of this movie and the kind of people that gobble it up.
Holy mackerel, is it the drugs that makes you people so delusional?
 
2012-02-27 02:30:22 PM
I saw it yseterday and it was better than I expectred. It pretty much delivered exactly what was promised. Lost of stuff blowing up, great action sequences.

Sure the acting was stiff, and the plot was like something you'd see in a video game.

Frankly, when the movie started I was a little skeptical...It seemed some of the scenes were written to show specific capabilities. HALO jump...Check. Deploying from submarine..Check. Rising out of the water an killing a bad guy...Chec.

But still, but the end of the movie, the had me.

My grade, a solid B, maybe a B+
 
2012-02-27 02:31:45 PM

FreetardoRivera: you must have hated g.i. joe cartoons


I loved em. Then again, I was a farking child.
 
2012-02-27 02:33:50 PM
Saw Act of Valor over the weekend. i would describe it as the AND1 Mixtape of killing brown people.

but yea id have to agree, this movie was both a tribute and a Naval recruitment tool at the same time. However, what with a near 90% drop out/washout rate for the BUD/S course, i think the last thing the program needs is more applicants.

/that theater got mighty dusty when they rolled the names of SpecWar operates killed since 9/11 instead of credits...
 
2012-02-27 02:34:40 PM

jaybeezey: jaybeezey: SageC: [i149.photobucket.com image 634x363]

Consider your vitriol officially reported to the head of the DNC.


Good, I'm very optimistic about the results of a floor vote on the matter.
 
2012-02-27 02:35:03 PM

Mugato: Is there a recruitment booth in the theater lobby? That would be awesome.


And add booth babes.
 
2012-02-27 02:35:24 PM

FreetardoRivera: So we are going to see two more Act of Valor sequels?

Act of Valor is in the same category as what you are complaining about.



Doubt it, and that's your characterization, not mine.
 
2012-02-27 02:36:03 PM

strapp3r: Forgot_my_password_again: "About 85 percent of audiences liked it, the amalgam site says."

maybe because they thought they had to? Its unamerican to bad mouth anything about the military.

my 14 yr-old son and three of his swim-team buddies saw it.
they hated it.
when teen boys reject it - you know it is shiate!

/that money is spent



swim buddies???? Does he bat for the other team too?
 
2012-02-27 02:36:20 PM

This text is now purple: Thorndyke Barnhard: Rear Adm. Denny Moynihan, of the Navy Office of Information in Washington, explained that every four years the Defense Department "looks at itself and says, 'What is it that you need to be moving forward, and where do you think you are?' " He added, "For the Navy and the SEAL community it was, 'Hey, you need 500 more SEALs' and that launched a series of initiatives to try to attract more people. This film was one of those initiatives." (new window)

Drooling tools are gonna want to act like it's mad libtard trolling to call this movie what it is: Blatant tacky recruitment propaganda and stupid warmongering. And yet, there it is, straight from the pig's mouth.

Just because it's propaganda doesn't mean it's bad, or poorly done.


Hollywood has ALWAYS made the Bestest propaganda.
There lies true expertise in the genre miles ahead of anywhere else.
Makes you wonder about some backgrounds and how they keep busy, eh?

/Wag the Dog
 
2012-02-27 02:36:51 PM

This text is now purple: Just because it's propaganda doesn't mean it's bad, or poorly done.


A great deal of what Hollywood does would fall into the "propaganda" category. It's only bad, though, when it's conservative propaganda.
 
2012-02-27 02:37:19 PM

bonediddly123: Saw Act of Valor over the weekend. i would describe it as the AND1 Mixtape of killing brown people.

but yea id have to agree, this movie was both a tribute and a Naval recruitment tool at the same time. However, what with a near 90% drop out/washout rate for the BUD/S course, i think the last thing the program needs is more applicants.

/that theater got mighty dusty when they rolled the names of SpecWar operates killed since 9/11 instead of credits...


Correct, they want more graduates.
 
2012-02-27 02:38:44 PM

bonediddly123: with a near 90% drop out/washout rate for the BUD/S course, i think the last thing the program needs is more applicants.


If they want 500 more SEALs, you'll need 5000 quality applicants. You don't want to lower your standards.
 
2012-02-27 02:45:13 PM

Galloping Galoshes:

If they want 500 more SEALs, you'll need 5000 quality applicants. You don't want to lower your standards.


i definitely agree. what i meant to say (and didn't articulate whatsoever) is that i doubt you will get very many "quality applicants" out of the sample of people that are persuaded to enlist and go for it by this movie. but every little bit helps...
 
2012-02-27 02:48:11 PM

SuperNinjaToad: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Lunaville: If I spend money on a war movie, it's more likely to be Red Tails. I'm more likely to see Arrietty next, though. Maybe my kids and I should reread the Borrowers.

So your first inclination is to watch a George Lucas war movie instead of one using actual Navy SEALs?

while the 'actors' may be actual SEALs the plot, storyline, set, director etc are still Hollywood so yes. If I want to watch 'real life' then I'll go rent a documentary.
An actor's 'real occupation' should have no bearing on what a movie is.
This movie is not that good. It's average for what it is... and the plot is laughable which is unfortunate. If you want to use real Nany SEALs than at least make the plot realistic!


Tom Mix would like a word...
 
2012-02-27 02:50:37 PM
I saw it last night. They need to take lessons from Arnie. I saw too many mag changes. Arnie never needs to, he just tosses the empty gun and starts to use another (from the 10 that he carries) .

Actually loved it. Texted my brother to see it. We were both AR in our younger days.
No, the dialog wasn't great but the visuals make up for it.
 
2012-02-27 02:53:10 PM

bonediddly123: Saw Act of Valor over the weekend. i would describe it as the AND1 Mixtape of killing brown people.

but yea id have to agree, this movie was both a tribute and a Naval recruitment tool at the same time. However, what with a near 90% drop out/washout rate for the BUD/S course, i think the last thing the program needs is more applicants.

/that theater got mighty dusty when they rolled the names of SpecWar operates killed since 9/11 instead of credits...


I don't know if things have changed but when I was in a fair amount of the people that join the Navy to be Seals get the Seal program part guaranteed but not their A school (job training), So after they wash out the Navy can do with them what they will. If the Navy is short on cooks you either get to be a cook or you get left as undesignated and get to paint things grey all damn day.

They love having that flexibility.
 
2012-02-27 02:55:15 PM

bonediddly123: the sample of people that are persuaded to enlist and go for it by this movie.


I agree, those that are motivated solely by this movie would not necessarily pass the psych tests. However, think of this movie as just part of the information that leads an otherwise qualified candidate to joining up. Additional motivation. Of course, then they find out what military life is really like. One thing about the Navy; a higher proportion of their bases are located in close proximity to beaches than the Army or Air Force.
 
2012-02-27 02:57:10 PM

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Lunaville: If I spend money on a war movie, it's more likely to be Red Tails. I'm more likely to see Arrietty next, though. Maybe my kids and I should reread the Borrowers.

So your first inclination is to watch a George Lucas war movie instead of one using actual Navy SEALs?


I don't see what's so special about this, considering that Hollywood loves to use stunt people with military experience. Oh gee willickers, those stuntment performing the scripted action don't have any professional movie training and the director is more than happy to do a crappy job constructing a narrative just so he can pull a bunch of active duty SEALs from running useful missions to make a movie that's trite, cliche, and not even that interesting as a movie. Face it, you got suckered into a marketing strategy that didn't even result in a decent film even by military wankfest standards.
 
2012-02-27 02:59:48 PM

Galloping Galoshes: bonediddly123: the sample of people that are persuaded to enlist and go for it by this movie.

I agree, those that are motivated solely by this movie would not necessarily pass the psych tests.


You have no idea what you are talking about.
 
2012-02-27 03:02:44 PM

bonediddly123: i definitely agree. what i meant to say (and didn't articulate whatsoever) is that i doubt you will get very many "quality applicants" out of the sample of people that are persuaded to enlist and go for it by this movie. but every little bit helps...


I doubt they get a different set of applicants from this movie than they do from any other recruitment tool.
 
2012-02-27 03:08:53 PM

Galloping Galoshes: I agree, those that are motivated solely by this movie would not necessarily pass the psych tests


That's pretty funny.
 
2012-02-27 03:20:22 PM

FreetardoRivera: You have no idea what you are talking about.


Mugato: That's pretty funny.


You may both be correct, but FreetardoRivera: , your comment appears to be more politically motivated than factual.
 
2012-02-27 03:23:44 PM
It looks like you blew a seal...
 
2012-02-27 03:27:36 PM

Galloping Galoshes: FreetardoRivera: You have no idea what you are talking about.

Mugato: That's pretty funny.

You may both be correct, but FreetardoRivera: , your comment appears to be more politically motivated than factual.


It isn't politically motivated.

Nice try though.
 
2012-02-27 03:27:46 PM

neversubmit: It looks like you blew a seal...


It's ice cream, I swear!
 
2012-02-27 03:29:46 PM

FreetardoRivera: It isn't politically motivated.


The few SEALs I've known didn't appear to be deranged bloodthirsty killers easily motivated by a movie. Somehow I don't think that's the kind of recruit the SEALs are looking for.
 
2012-02-27 03:31:06 PM
It's obvious that this movie is a 90-minute recruiting commercial. The dialogue will be "blah blah FIGHT AND WIN." The characters will be John Studly and Proudfoot AmericaChief.

*snore*
 
2012-02-27 03:38:02 PM
It's not my thing, and I'll likely never watch it, but I'd much rather this be number one than some crap like Twilight.
 
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