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2012-02-27 10:43:39 AM
Yes, but Underpfeated won an Oscar. We'll never hear the end of that one.
 
2012-02-27 10:44:06 AM
I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.
 
2012-02-27 11:06:48 AM

ManateeGag: Yes, but Underpfeated won an Oscar. We'll never hear the end of that one.


Same title, different movie. The one which won the Oscar was about a High School Football team, not a retarded politician from Alaska.
 
2012-02-27 11:11:21 AM
I haven't seen any of them.
 
2012-02-27 11:15:55 AM

DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.


Agreed; There will probably be people who will complain it only won cause old farts were nostalgic for black and white/silent films, but it honestly was a really great movie. The two lead actors (and hell, most of the other actors (and dog) as well) did a great job and the music, it was practically another character

The only thing I maybe would change is instead of having sound in the nightmare sequence and the very end, maybe have it creep in as he becomes more and more depressed and movies transition from silent to sound

/of course, then that terrific misdirect at the end wouldn't work nearly as well but I digress
 
2012-02-27 11:16:44 AM

DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.


Haven't seen it, but everything I've heard was that it was good, but not great. Given more for the idea of what it was than what it actually is(kind of like Forrest Gump)
 
2012-02-27 11:19:56 AM
My brother in law was talking about watching the Oscars last night and I said to him: "What's the point? The artist is going to win Picture, Direction and Actor, the two Help ladies are going to win, and the guy playing the old gay guy is going to win, there I just saved you four hours of your life."

The only one I missed on was Lead Actress, and really when you say something like "Surprise Winner Meryl Streep," I mean, come on.

The Oscars are boring and predictable. But hey at least they were hosted by someone who hasn't been relevant for two decades.
 
2012-02-27 11:21:02 AM
No word on when Republicans will express outrage for statues going to Iranian and French films


I'm sure a Breitbart link will be around shortly.
 
2012-02-27 11:21:30 AM

The Homer Tax: What's the point?


For people who love movies, it's a fun celebration of something we spend a lot of time discussing and thinking about. The 'surprise' aspect is basically irrelevant.

This isn't complicated.
 
2012-02-27 11:24:11 AM

DamnYankees: The Homer Tax: What's the point?

For people who love movies, it's a fun celebration of something we spend a lot of time discussing and thinking about. The 'surprise' aspect is basically irrelevant.

This isn't complicated.


So it's your FoxNews/MSNBC
 
2012-02-27 11:26:31 AM
Who cares that a bunch of Hollywood types give out awards to each other? Or awards to movies no one will ever see? Besides, Iranians aren't a problem, just their government. Now the French...
 
2012-02-27 11:29:41 AM

DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.


I thought The King's Speech deserved its win last year.
 
2012-02-27 11:31:31 AM

The English Major: DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.

I thought The King's Speech deserved its win last year.


I liked that movie a lot, but I just can't help but think in 20 years people will be saying The Social Network was a defining movie of the era and the one people will keep coming back to.
 
2012-02-27 11:39:08 AM

Evilsmurf: ManateeGag: Yes, but Underpfeated won an Oscar. We'll never hear the end of that one.

Same title, different movie. The one which won the Oscar was about a High School Football team, not a retarded politician from Alaska.


Oh, thank Jeebus. I was in shock at that and assumed the Academy was trolling us.

/you know at least one Republican politician is going to bring it up anyways.
 
2012-02-27 11:39:28 AM

DamnYankees: For people who love movies, it's a fun celebration of something we spend a lot of time discussing and thinking about. The 'surprise' aspect is basically irrelevant.

This isn't complicated.


Well, then why nominate people at all? Just give out the list of winners and make the Oscars just one big celebration.
 
2012-02-27 11:41:33 AM

bhcompy: DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.

Haven't seen it, but everything I've heard was that it was good, but not great. Given more for the idea of what it was than what it actually is(kind of like Forrest Gump)


It's not only an homage to silent films but a good story done exceedingly well--a rare thing, nowadays. There's a scene where the actress is pretending to chat & hold the the star, using just his jacket, that is just mesmerizing. The direction is used in ways not seen since a Hitchcock film--a scene on a staircase where the two mains, a rising star and one whose heyday has past, are talking and she's on the flight above, ascending, whereas he's walking down the stairs; the use of stark black & whites to show conflict; a scene where the main is in a room surrounded by towering remnants of his past as he looks smaller & smaller as more are revealed--absolutely amazing work.
 
2012-02-27 11:46:17 AM

taxandspend: but it wasn't Black Swan great or Social Network great. One of those films (preferably Black Swan) should have won it.


Weren't both Black Swan and The Social Network movies about white people overcoming problems?
 
2012-02-27 11:47:50 AM

The Homer Tax: Well, then why nominate people at all? Just give out the list of winners and make the Oscars just one big celebration.


Because people enjoy it.

Go suck on a muffler.
 
2012-02-27 11:48:26 AM

The Homer Tax: taxandspend: but it wasn't Black Swan great or Social Network great. One of those films (preferably Black Swan) should have won it.

Weren't both Black Swan and The Social Network movies about white people overcoming problems?


I don't think anyone overcomes anything in either of those movies. More like white people being crushed by problems.
 
2012-02-27 11:55:08 AM

DamnYankees: Because people enjoy it.

Go suck on a muffler.


Do you really not think that the Oscars could use a major overhaul? Seriously? As this giant movie fan you profess to be, do you really not think that not only the system they use for voting, but the actual show itself could use one, big, giant enema?

Am I really being that outlandish here?
 
2012-02-27 11:57:04 AM

The Homer Tax: Do you really not think that the Oscars could use a major overhaul? Seriously? As this giant movie fan you profess to be, do you really not think that not only the system they use for voting, but the actual show itself could use one, big, giant enema?


I don't see what this has to do with the show itself. Merely changing who wins wouldn't change the nature of the show, which is what you seem to be biatching about.
 
2012-02-27 12:05:51 PM

DamnYankees: I don't see what this has to do with the show itself. Merely changing who wins wouldn't change the nature of the show, which is what you seem to be biatching about.


I'm honestly not really "biatching" about anything, I don't care enough to be "biatching" - I'm just making observations. You're the one here acting like I raped your dog, I'm not trying to fight with anyone here, relax a little bit.
 
2012-02-27 12:09:50 PM

The Homer Tax: DamnYankees: Because people enjoy it.

Go suck on a muffler.

Do you really not think that the Oscars could use a major overhaul? Seriously? As this giant movie fan you profess to be, do you really not think that not only the system they use for voting, but the actual show itself could use one, big, giant enema?

Am I really being that outlandish here?


Why should it be overhauled? The people in the actual industry vote on what they think are the best movies. Who's more qualified? The critics have their award shows, and they usually agree with the Oscar choices. The people? There's the peoples choice awards and the MTV Movie awards. Then you end up with Twilight winning everything.

Are you complaining about the spectacle? Movies/Film ARE spectacle. They're also the most important art form in the world today. A billion people around the people watch the awards. It's the only place to see all the famous people interacting and joking and giving tribute to the entertainment they provide.

The Academy Awards are not just the awards. It's a celebration of art. Movies are music, flamboyance, spectacle, humor, drama, and everything and everyone in between.
 
2012-02-27 12:11:34 PM

DamnYankees: The English Major: DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.

I thought The King's Speech deserved its win last year.

I liked that movie a lot, but I just can't help but think in 20 years people will be saying The Social Network was a defining movie of the era and the one people will keep coming back to.


THIS
 
2012-02-27 12:13:09 PM

DamnYankees: The Social Network


taxandspend: Black Swan great or Social Network great.


I take it those need to be added to my Netflix queue. Though my 70 year old grandmother did go see Black Swan in the theater with friends. Knowing what little I know of the film made me laugh at the idea.
 
2012-02-27 12:14:54 PM

Critch: Why should it be overhauled? The people in the actual industry vote on what they think are the best movies. Who's more qualified? The critics have their award shows, and they usually agree with the Oscar choices. The people? There's the peoples choice awards and the MTV Movie awards. Then you end up with Twilight winning everything.

Are you complaining about the spectacle? Movies/Film ARE spectacle. They're also the most important art form in the world today. A billion people around the people watch the awards. It's the only place to see all the famous people interacting and joking and giving tribute to the entertainment they provide.

The Academy Awards are not just the awards. It's a celebration of art. Movies are music, flamboyance, spectacle, humor, drama, and everything and everyone in between.


Nevermind, everything about the Oscars is perfect just the way it is. Forget I said anything.
 
2012-02-27 12:19:25 PM

The English Major: DamnYankees: The Social Network

taxandspend: Black Swan great or Social Network great.

I take it those need to be added to my Netflix queue. Though my 70 year old grandmother did go see Black Swan in the theater with friends. Knowing what little I know of the film made me laugh at the idea.


As strange as it sounds, The Social Network is a movie which I think really works best in a cinema. The mood of the movie is overwhelming, in a great but unsettling way. I don't know if any 2 movies have ever been elevated so much by their use of music as The Social Network and There Will Be Blood.
 
2012-02-27 12:24:53 PM
My problem is that The Artist never seemed to have a true release. It never played within 50 miles of me.
 
2012-02-27 12:29:51 PM
Only caught one award (Best Animated Movie) and I was actually glad I did. Had no idea Rango was even in the running and was glad it won. Definitely the best animated movie of the year.
 
2012-02-27 12:30:39 PM

The Homer Tax: taxandspend: but it wasn't Black Swan great or Social Network great. One of those films (preferably Black Swan) should have won it.

Weren't both Black Swan and The Social Network movies about white people overcoming problems?


Yeah, but to be fair The Black Swan had lesbianism. So there's that.
 
2012-02-27 12:42:13 PM

satanorsanta: My problem is that The Artist never seemed to have a true release. It never played within 50 miles of me.


hell, I hadn't even heard about it until the Golden Globes. Granted, I'm interested, but it kind of looks like something that might be more of a gimmick than an actually good film.
 
2012-02-27 12:44:15 PM

FeedTheCollapse: satanorsanta: My problem is that The Artist never seemed to have a true release. It never played within 50 miles of me.

hell, I hadn't even heard about it until the Golden Globes. Granted, I'm interested, but it kind of looks like something that might be more of a gimmick than an actually good film.


I like how you look at a film that just won Best Picture and has a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes, and your reaction to it is "eh, it's probably just a gimmick". As if all those people who think its absolutely great never took a moment to consider that before coming down with their verdict.
 
2012-02-27 12:50:34 PM

taxandspend: The English Major: DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.

I thought The King's Speech deserved its win last year.

The King's Speech was good, and it was certainly the stereotypical "oscar worthy film" aka a film about white people overcoming problems; but it wasn't Black Swan great or Social Network great. One of those films (preferably Black Swan) should have won it.


I like Black Swan better when it was two separate films: Powell & Pressburger's The Red Shoes and Polanski's Repulsion. I enjoyed The King's Speech much more than either of those films, but that's just me.

The Artist was ok, but I honestly would have liked Hugo to have upset it, and won for Best Picture instead. It definitely appealed to me more, and it think it's one of the more personal films Scorsese has done, since he's such a huge film geek.

I just felt that The Artist won more on the fact that it's a silent film. The last time a silent film won for Best Picture was at the very first one (well, the equivalent of Best Picture, it was split into two categories: Outstanding Picture (Wings), Production & Unique and Artistic Production (Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans)). It wasn't a bad film, but for me, it wasn't the best film of the year out of the nine that were nominated.
 
2012-02-27 12:58:12 PM

The English Major: DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.

I thought The King's Speech deserved its win last year.


Picture 20 years from now, a whole bunch of young drunken film nerds are very excitingly talking at a party about a movie that came out in 2010. Do you think they would really be talking about The King's Speech over Black Swan, The Social Network, Toy Story 3 or The Fighter?
 
2012-02-27 12:59:42 PM
oh wait, about 3 people beat me too it.
 
2012-02-27 01:00:01 PM

Jonathan Hohensee: Do you think they would really be talking about The King's Speech over Black Swan, The Social Network, Toy Story 3 or The Fighter?


Over The Fighter, yes. The others, probably not.
 
2012-02-27 01:04:59 PM

Critch: The Homer Tax: DamnYankees: Because people enjoy it.

Go suck on a muffler.

Do you really not think that the Oscars could use a major overhaul? Seriously? As this giant movie fan you profess to be, do you really not think that not only the system they use for voting, but the actual show itself could use one, big, giant enema?

Am I really being that outlandish here?

Why should it be overhauled? The people in the actual industry vote on what they think are the best movies. Who's more qualified? The critics have their award shows, and they usually agree with the Oscar choices. The people? There's the peoples choice awards and the MTV Movie awards. Then you end up with Twilight winning everything.


They could do something in between those two extremes. For example, the Hugo Awards are voted on by the members, and anyone who's enough of a sci-fi geek to be interested in voting can buy a membership for as little as $50/year.
 
2012-02-27 01:06:42 PM

Jonathan Hohensee: The English Major: DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.

I thought The King's Speech deserved its win last year.

Picture 20 years from now, a whole bunch of young drunken film nerds are very excitingly talking at a party about a movie that came out in 2010. Do you think they would really be talking about The King's Speech over Black Swan, The Social Network, Toy Story 3 or The Fighter?


Drunken film nerds talk about Tarantino and Smith. I'm not sure their opinion on what the best is is any more relevant than the rest of us.
 
2012-02-27 01:07:11 PM

DamnYankees: Jonathan Hohensee: Do you think they would really be talking about The King's Speech over Black Swan, The Social Network, Toy Story 3 or The Fighter?

Over The Fighter, yes. The others, probably not.


I'll give you that.

It's not that I like The Fighter as much as I find The King's Speech to be such a static, unambitious film.
 
2012-02-27 01:08:32 PM

Jonathan Hohensee: It's not that I like The Fighter as much as I find The King's Speech to be such a static, unambitious film.


I don't disagree, but I feel the same way about The Fighter and Toy Story 3.
 
2012-02-27 01:33:41 PM

bhcompy: Jonathan Hohensee: The English Major: DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.

I thought The King's Speech deserved its win last year.

Picture 20 years from now, a whole bunch of young drunken film nerds are very excitingly talking at a party about a movie that came out in 2010. Do you think they would really be talking about The King's Speech over Black Swan, The Social Network, Toy Story 3 or The Fighter?

Drunken film nerds talk about Tarantino and Smith. I'm not sure their opinion on what the best is is any more relevant than the rest of us.


I guess I really liked Firth, Rush, and Bonham-Carter and thought they did a great job of adapting the source material. It really was a powerful film about overcoming adversity, which, as noted earlier, the Academy loves.
 
2012-02-27 01:35:50 PM

satanorsanta: My problem is that The Artist never seemed to have a true release. It never played within 50 miles of me.


Slumdog Millionaire was like that, too--I don't think it ever had a wide release. I'd heard about it in Oct or Nov & had to track it down at an arthouse cinema. However, I REALLY enjoyed both movies, so I don't mind. Theatres are in it for the money and make their cash on concessions. They're understandably leery about giving up a screen to a movie that's probably not going to bring in hordes of people.
 
2012-02-27 01:48:19 PM

The English Major: DamnYankees: The Social Network

taxandspend: Black Swan great or Social Network great.

I take it those need to be added to my Netflix queue. Though my 70 year old grandmother did go see Black Swan in the theater with friends. Knowing what little I know of the film made me laugh at the idea.


The Social Network was written by Sorkin so is a great dialogue film. I didn't get the hype over it but still enjoyed it. Sorkin's a bit heavy-handed but at least he's REALLY good at making people sound like they're having an actual conversation. The Black Swan is kinda cool in an old-fashioned psychological drama sort of way, like Psycho & Vertigo--even more so if you compare the existence of the lesbian scene in Black Swan to how movie critics tittered about Norman Bates' cross-dressing. Worth Netflixing or catching on HBO (if you already have it) but I don't think they're must-see movies.
 
2012-02-27 01:53:05 PM

ATRDCI: DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.

Agreed; There will probably be people who will complain it only won cause old farts were nostalgic for black and white/silent films, but it honestly was a really great movie. The two lead actors (and hell, most of the other actors (and dog) as well) did a great job and the music, it was practically another character

The only thing I maybe would change is instead of having sound in the nightmare sequence and the very end, maybe have it creep in as he becomes more and more depressed and movies transition from silent to sound

/of course, then that terrific misdirect at the end wouldn't work nearly as well but I digress


As someone pointed out in last night's monster thread is that Mel Brooks' 1976 "Silent Movie" was all silent except that the only spoken line was by a mime -- Marcel Marceau.
 
2012-02-27 02:02:18 PM

Jonathan Hohensee: The English Major: DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.

I thought The King's Speech deserved its win last year.

Picture 20 years from now, a whole bunch of young drunken film nerds are very excitingly talking at a party about a movie that came out in 2010. Do you think they would really be talking about The King's Speech over Black Swan, The Social Network, Toy Story 3 or The Fighter?



20 years from now, Black Swan will be just another old movie that gives you a headache trying to be edgy, The Social Network will be about something that seemed to matter a lot to your parents, Toy Story 3 will look outdated and The Fighter will have been forgotten amongst all the better boxing movies out there.
 
2012-02-27 02:28:06 PM

scottydoesntknow: Only caught one award (Best Animated Movie) and I was actually glad I did. Had no idea Rango was even in the running and was glad it won. Definitely the best animated movie of the year.


This. Was the only award I was genuinely interested in, and glad Gore Verbinski got his due for making that. I know it's rare for an animated feature to receive a Best Picture nod, but with the shallow field this year, I thought there might've been a small chance Rango even got a nomination there, but I guess I had my expectations WAY too high.
 
2012-02-27 03:01:22 PM

satanorsanta: My problem is that The Artist never seemed to have a true release. It never played within 50 miles of me.


How far away from movie theaters do you live? I ended up seeing it last Saturday, (not even aware it was nominated), so pretty near the end of its run and just looking through the newspaper, every Houston area AMC and Cinemark was still running it
 
2012-02-27 04:39:24 PM
Subby? You need to stop being so closed minded/bigotted.
 
2012-02-27 04:44:17 PM

ATRDCI: satanorsanta: My problem is that The Artist never seemed to have a true release. It never played within 50 miles of me.

How far away from movie theaters do you live? I ended up seeing it last Saturday, (not even aware it was nominated), so pretty near the end of its run and just looking through the newspaper, every Houston area AMC and Cinemark was still running it


I live in Lafayette IN and have 3 theaters in town all playing the same thing. I'd have to drive to Indianapolis to see the Artist
 
2012-02-27 05:13:00 PM

bhcompy: Jonathan Hohensee: The English Major: DamnYankees: I'll say this - The Artist is the most deserving winner since Return of the King, in my opinion. I think this is the rare time the Oscar actually went to the best movie of the year.

I thought The King's Speech deserved its win last year.

Picture 20 years from now, a whole bunch of young drunken film nerds are very excitingly talking at a party about a movie that came out in 2010. Do you think they would really be talking about The King's Speech over Black Swan, The Social Network, Toy Story 3 or The Fighter?

Drunken film nerds talk about Tarantino and Smith. I'm not sure their opinion on what the best is is any more relevant than the rest of us.


While their opinion might not mean anything more than anyone else's, I promise you in twenty years some film student will write a paper about the works of David Fincher. That puts The Social Network squarely back in play.

/and the screenwriting students will write about Aaron Sorkin
//unless 'the event' happens by then and we're all scounging for food and double-tapping the undead
 
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