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2012-02-27 09:52:16 AM  
Vladimir Putin picks me up in a black Escalade and we speed through Moscow as he regales me with tales of the Cold War. He has recently gone through a break-up and is feeling vulnerable.

We arrive at a palatial mansion on the Baltic Sea. He cooks me dinner...shirtless. He sets out huge plates for the food, but when he is done cooking, all he has are these tiny purple scallops that he has painstakingly plated.

As we eat, the conversation gets kind of awkward. I notice a wedding party on the shore taking pictures and he explains that he allows weddings on his property to offset the cost of the mansion.
 
2012-02-27 10:37:32 AM  
I love that Putin is walking right into the role the US played for 50 years without hesitation. He really is stuck in the 1980's.
 
2012-02-27 11:01:42 AM  
Yeah, well so does Barney Frank.
 
2012-02-27 11:05:42 AM  
I don't want to be rude or disrespectful, and I unequivocally don't want to start an argument, but people who draw attention to PM Vladimir Putin's presumptuous belief systems are systematically labeled by PM Putin's chargés d'affaires as "cullionly hoodwinkers" or terms synonymous therewith. First and foremost, PM Putin labels anyone he doesn't like as "negligent". That might well be a better description of him. With all their sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, his perorations are utterly dissolute. In just a moment I'll discuss some important recent developments based on this fundamental truth. First, however, I want to add a bit to what I wrote previously. There may be absolutely nothing we can do to prevent him from making good on his word to insult the intelligence, interests, and life plans of whole groups of people. When we compare this disturbing conclusion to the comforting picture purveyed by his thralls, we experience psychological stress or "cognitive dissonance". Our only recourse is to change the direction in which our society is headed.

PM Putin's iracund crusades have given birth to a completely new subspecies in the human race: Vladimir Putin companions. This is a curious animal that tends to disregard established wisdom and listen exclusively to what PM Putin has to say. When PM Putin says that sin is good for the soul, they all repeat that statement like parrots. They refuse to believe that PM Putin has hatched all sorts of lackluster plans. Remember his attempt to combine the most sordid avarice with the most invincible hatred of the very people who tolerate and enrich him? No? That's because PM Putin is so good at concealing his malign activities.

The point is that if everyone spent just five minutes a day thinking about ways to ensure that we survive and emerge triumphant out of the coming chaos and destruction, we'd all be a lot better off. Is five minutes a day too much to ask for the promise of a better tomorrow? I hope not, but then again, no matter how bad you think PM Putin's artifices are, I assure you that they are far, far worse than you think. PM Putin just keeps on saying, "I don't give a [expletive deleted] about you. I just want to form the association in the public's mind between any smears he disagrees with and the ideas of hate and violence and illegality." Many people are convinced that every one of his promises to us was broken before the words were fully out of his mouth. I can't comment on that, but I can say that a central point of PM Putin's belief systems is the notion that the Queen of England heads up the international drug cartel. Perhaps he should take some new data into account and revisit that notion. I think he'd find that if his doctrinaire wisecracks became more widespread, it would spell the ruination of this country. Now that I've told you what I think, let me end this letter by stating that I fully intend to anneal discourse with honesty, clear thinking, and a sense of moral good. Let PM Vladimir Putin tremble. And though the heavens fall, let there be justice.
 
2012-02-27 11:55:40 AM  
FTA: "Putin also warned against an attack on Iran. "Russia is worried about the growing threat of a strike on Iran," Putin said. "If it happens, the consequences will be truly catastrophic. Their real scale is impossible to imagine."


Just pretty words?


FTA: "The West has gotten carried away trying to 'punish' some nations," Putin said. "It reaches out for sanctions or even a military club at the drop of a hat."


It would seem that Putin is making it clear that the "West's" unwarranted aggression and meddling will not go unopposed, a point punctuated by the latest IAEA report showing that Iran has been telling the truth about their nuclear enrichment program all along:

Today's Jerusalem Post (new window)

QUOTE:

Ex-IAEA official: Iran using old nuke technology

But, contrary to some Western media reports in the run-up to Friday's International Atomic Energy Agency report, Iran does not yet seem ready to deploy advanced enrichment equipment for large-scale production, despite years of testing.

Instead, the IAEA document showed Iran was preparing to install thousands more centrifuges based on an erratic and outdated design, both in its main enrichment plant at Natanz and in a smaller facility at Fordow buried deep underground.

"It appears that they are still struggling with the advanced centrifuges," said Olli Heinonen, a former chief nuclear inspector for the Vienna-based UN body.

"We do not know whether the reasons for delays are lack of raw materials or design problems," he said.

END QUOTE


Also, from today's Sydney Morning Herald (new window)

QUOTE

Calls for calm as Iran nuclear risk discounted

As Tehran heads for elections, intelligence backs its denials that it is preparing a nuclear bomb.

But even as news of the report emerged, many experts were still arguing there was no hard evidence that Iran had decided to build a nuclear weapon.

In what is believed to be the consensus view of America's 16 intelligence agencies, Iran abandoned its nuclear weapon program years earlier, The New York Times reported. As for Iran's recent announcements of the successful development of a third or fourth generation of centrifuges, there is doubt they have made it this far, said Mark Fitzpatrick, a non-proliferation expert at the International Institute of Strategic Studies.

Even if the regime began work to enrich uranium to the weapons-grade level, which is about 80 per cent or higher, it would still take more than a year to develop a weapon, Mr Fitzpatrick told the Herald.

The one significant development - Iran's production of uranium fuel rods - creates material that is only viable for use in medical radioactive isotopes.

''The rods have no chance of being weaponised,'' he said.

Even US defence chiefs were talking down Iran's ambitions.

''Iran is unlikely to initiate or intentionally provoke a conflict,'' Ronald Burgess, from the US Defence Intelligence Agency, told a hearing in Washington last week. The US Defence Secretary, Leon Panetta, agreed.

''The intelligence has been very clear on this. They continue to develop their enrichment capabilities, but the intelligence does not show that they have made a decision to proceed to developing a nuclear weapon.''

[...]

Dr Emery said the significance of the sanctions would not only be measured in Iran. Instead their success would add weight to the US calls on Israel to de-escalate its threats for a pre-emptive strike.

One thing is certain: international consensus, with the notable absence of Israel, is that the sanctions regime is the best available option for dealing with Iran.

''My own view is that an Israeli or American strike on Iran is insanity; the last thing we need is another war in the Middle East,'' Mr Riedel said.

''The disadvantages would be enormous, economically, in terms of a spike in world oil prices ... and militarily, in terms of retaliation not just from Iran but from Hezbollah in Lebanon.

''We have international consensus on sanctioning Iran that is remarkable, and a war will shatter that with the first bomb.''

END QUOTE


It would appear that Netanyahu's bluff has been called, and that Wild-Card Putin is making it clear that the stakes are high, especially given that the Israel's fear-mongering accusations against Iran have been baseless.

Kudos to Obama for keeping Israel on a leash - so far. Unfortunately Israel seems doggedly determined to attack Iran in any case, and the only question is how far they are willing to go to spark the war.


/Mind those false flags
 
2012-02-27 12:33:52 PM  
There are many long posts in this thread
 
2012-02-27 12:34:16 PM  

Sybarite: Yeah, well so does Barney Frank.



Yeah, but compared to Putin, Frank is toothless.
 
2012-02-27 12:34:23 PM  
As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border.
 
2012-02-27 12:35:00 PM  
Help us Sarah!
 
2012-02-27 12:35:10 PM  

WTF Indeed: I love that Putin is walking right into the role the US played for 50 years without hesitation. He His country really is stuck in the 1980's.

 
2012-02-27 12:38:17 PM  
I keep rooting for some Chechens to put some shrapnel in Pooty-Poot's brain case, but I know it'll never happen. Though the day that Moscow goes up in a nuclear fireball...from an Iranian nuke "stolen" by the Chechens, I'll grieve for the citizens of Moscow and laugh at Pooty-Poot's funeral on TV.

/never liked the man
//don't trust him
///truth be told, he's responsible for more deaths than anyone since Pol Pot
 
2012-02-27 12:38:28 PM  
He shoots lasers from his eyes too....

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-27 12:38:55 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Vladimir Putin picks me up in a black Escalade and we speed through Moscow as he regales me with tales of the Cold War. He has recently gone through a break-up and is feeling vulnerable.

We arrive at a palatial mansion on the Baltic Sea. He cooks me dinner...shirtless. He sets out huge plates for the food, but when he is done cooking, all he has are these tiny purple scallops that he has painstakingly plated.

As we eat, the conversation gets kind of awkward. I notice a wedding party on the shore taking pictures and he explains that he allows weddings on his property to offset the cost of the mansion.


I don't get it. Was there a punchline in there somewhere?
 
2012-02-27 12:40:03 PM  

TravisBickle62: There are many long posts in this thread


Here's a short one.
 
2012-02-27 12:56:05 PM  
Putin said the West had backed the Arab Spring to advance its interests in the region, and that instead of promoting democracy the revolts had given rise to religious extremism.

.... like him or not he is right about this point. I don't think anyone can deny the fact that places like Tunisia, Libya, Egypt are anymore 'free' than when they were under their respective despots. Some would argue in some parts of the country the population is worst off.
 
2012-02-27 12:57:47 PM  
STFU and put on a shirt, Dobby!
 
2012-02-27 12:59:17 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: Putin said the West had backed the Arab Spring to advance its interests in the region, and that instead of promoting democracy the revolts had given rise to religious extremism.

.... like him or not he is right about this point. I don't think anyone can deny the fact that places like Tunisia, Libya, Egypt are anymore 'free' than when they were under their respective despots. Some would argue in some parts of the country the population is worst off.



Mubarak in particular was forced into an "early retirement".


/Changing of the guard
//New boss
///Old boss
 
2012-02-27 01:04:23 PM  
If Putin wants to volunteer to keep Iran and Syria on the leash and in his sphere of influence, more power to him. Trick is he has to keep them on that leash.
 
2012-02-27 01:06:32 PM  
suddenarborealstop.files.wordpress.com

Never get involved in a land war in Asia ....
 
2012-02-27 01:17:26 PM  
Putin is getting a bit, well, strange. Perhaps there are some heavy metals in his food?

Dear Russia and China: the cold war is over and we hope you want the same thing we do, a stable Middle-East. You and whatever world leaders can have the influence pissing war all you want (remember, it's a game that involves facing into the wind...) just try to work with the rest of the world on this. It's really not a conspiracy.
 
2012-02-27 01:27:17 PM  
the man is 5 foot 7 with lifts in his shoes.
 
2012-02-27 01:32:25 PM  

How's THIS for a fancy nickname: TravisBickle62: There are many long posts in this thread

Here's a short one.


TL;DR
 
2012-02-27 01:40:58 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Putin is getting a bit, well, strange. Perhaps there are some heavy metals in his food?

Dear Russia and China: the cold war is over and we hope you want the same thing we do, a stable Middle-East. You and whatever world leaders can have the influence pissing war all you want (remember, it's a game that involves facing into the wind...) just try to work with the rest of the world on this. It's really not a conspiracy.


....... AHH and see this is the primary beliefs and fallacy that the avg joe/jane american has fallen believe into.... that through regime change or getting rid of despots, the middle east will suddenly turn stable!

History and events have shown us over again and again that that has NEVER happened yet for some strange illogical reasons many Americans still hold on to this myth that regime change in middle east = America loving, peaceful, progressive democratic nation that automatically results!

it's laughable if not so tragic!

You want a stable middle east country? then you put in a secular despot! yes he may be evil and may even kill a few thousand of his folks BUT at the very least it will be stable!
That is the only possible solution for governance at this time in history. To want a democratic, equal representation republic like the US or even Europe is not a feasible political solution at this time in history for the middle east for a myriad of reasons least of all political. The sooner most Westerners understand this the better it is.
 
2012-02-27 01:45:43 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: To want a democratic, equal representation republic like the US or even Europe is not a feasible political solution at this time in history for the middle east for a myriad of reasons least of all political.


"or even Europe"?

When it will be feasible?
 
2012-02-27 02:06:31 PM  
Y'all are getting your brains tied in knots with smart people talk. Ok, here's what'll happen. Isreal will bomb Iran. Russia will get mad and try to attack them. We will stop them. I saw this on Left Behind.
 
2012-02-27 02:15:48 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Dear Russia and China: the cold war is over and we hope you want the same thing we do, a stable Middle-East.


The United States most certainly does not want a stable Middle East. Unless things like constantly arming an agent provacateur, repeatedly invading countries in the region, conducting bombing campaigns, and economic warfare fall under "creating stability" for you.

I think you're confusing "servile to international business interests" for "stability".
 
2012-02-27 02:23:14 PM  

Cagey B: The Irresponsible Captain: Dear Russia and China: the cold war is over and we hope you want the same thing we do, a stable Middle-East.

The United States most certainly does not want a stable Middle East. Unless things like constantly arming an agent provacateur, repeatedly invading countries in the region, conducting bombing campaigns, and economic warfare fall under "creating stability" for you.

I think you're confusing "servile to international business interests" for "stability".


I thought it was "keeping brown people killing each other so that they wouldn't attack us"?
 
2012-02-27 03:21:43 PM  

Amos Quito:
[typical amosquito stuff]


Why did you leave out the resuts of the IAEA visit and instead quote peoples' speculation?
Why? Because you have an agenda. I knew you'd leave out the actual report.

Today's Jerusalem Post

QUOTE

Iran has sharply stepped up its controversial uranium enrichment drive, a United Nations watchdog report showed on Friday, a defiant move certain to further fuel Western alarm about the Islamic Republic's atomic aims.
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), in a confidential document, also reported its failed mission to Tehran this week to try and get Iran to respond to allegations of research relevant for the development of nuclear weapons.

"The Agency continues to have serious concerns regarding possible military dimensions to Iran's nuclear program," the Vienna-based UN body said in its latest quarterly report about Iran's atomic activities.

The IAEA report to member states showed Iran had carried out a significant expansion of activities at its main enrichment plant near the central city of Natanz, and also increased work at the Fordow underground facility.

At Natanz, the IAEA report said 52 cascades - each containing around 170 centrifuges - were now operating, up from 37 in November.

At Fordow, almost 700 centrifuges are now refining uranium to a fissile concentration of 20 percent and preparations are under way to install many more, the IAEA report showed.

END QUOTE

There's more in the report about about Iran's refusal to let the IAEA look at everything.
Just thought I'd mention that, since I doubt you read the report before screaming "Joos! Joos!"
 
2012-02-27 03:29:15 PM  
Came here to see Putin nipples... Leaving sad

/ :(
 
2012-02-27 04:42:35 PM  

Porous Horace: Amos Quito:
[typical amosquito stuff]

Why did you leave out the resuts of the IAEA visit and instead quote peoples' speculation?



I quoted the article I linked to.

Your link went to the JP front page - no article at all. Kind of hard to verify your quotes when that happens.


Porous Horace: Why? Because you have an agenda



One of us has an agenda, that's for sure.


Porous Horace: Iran has sharply stepped up its controversial uranium enrichment drive, a United Nations watchdog report showed on Friday, a defiant move certain to further fuel Western alarm about the Islamic Republic's atomic aims.
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), in a confidential document, also reported its failed mission to Tehran this week to try and get Iran to respond to allegations of research relevant for the development of nuclear weapons.

"The Agency continues to have serious concerns regarding possible military dimensions to Iran's nuclear program," the Vienna-based UN body said in its latest quarterly report about Iran's atomic activities.

The IAEA report to member states showed Iran had carried out a significant expansion of activities at its main enrichment plant near the central city of Natanz, and also increased work at the Fordow underground facility.

At Natanz, the IAEA report said 52 cascades - each containing around 170 centrifuges - were now operating, up from 37 in November.

At Fordow, almost 700 centrifuges are now refining uranium to a fissile concentration of 20 percent and preparations are under way to install many more, the IAEA report showed.

END QUOTE



The above is meaningless. It shows that they continue to enrich uranium for power generation, which they have never denied, and as Sydney Morning Herald article I cited reported, Israel's accusations of weapon making were not confirmed by this latest report, they were destroyed:

QUOTE:

Even if the regime began work to enrich uranium to the weapons-grade level, which is about 80 per cent or higher, it would still take more than a year to develop a weapon, Mr Fitzpatrick told the Herald.

The one significant development - Iran's production of uranium fuel rods - creates material that is only viable for use in medical radioactive isotopes.

''The rods have no chance of being weaponised,'' he said.

Even US defence chiefs were talking down Iran's ambitions.

''Iran is unlikely to initiate or intentionally provoke a conflict,'' Ronald Burgess, from the US Defence Intelligence Agency, told a hearing in Washington last week. The US Defence Secretary, Leon Panetta, agreed.

''The intelligence has been very clear on this. They continue to develop their enrichment capabilities, but the intelligence does not show that they have made a decision to proceed to developing a nuclear weapon.''

END QUOTE

Sorry, but the experts don't agree with your aggressive fear mongering, Porous Horace. Bibi rolled his dice and it came up snake-eyes. Crapped out. Time to pack it up and go home.

And why do you keep trying to conflate the Zionist State with "Joos"?

There are a lot of Jews who would be quite appalled at your lumping them in with these warmongering asshats.


/My "agenda" is to see that your efforts to start WWIII fail
 
2012-02-27 04:46:01 PM  
What is the point of the article? Putin is right.
 
2012-02-27 04:48:50 PM  
putin
bear
putin smiles and waves
bear smiles and waves

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED
 
2012-02-27 05:00:17 PM  
There would be more posts in this thread if the article wasn't behind a login.
 
2012-02-27 05:17:08 PM  

Amos Quito:
Your link went to the JP front page - no article at all. Kind of hard to verify your quotes when that happens.


Oopsy. Link

See What is Iran hiding at Parchin? and Iran defiant also by Mr. Fitzpatrick.

QUOTE

The director of the IISS non-proliferation programme, Mark Fitzpatrick, has said today that it is `very disappointing' for the IAEA to come back from Tehran with nothing to show for it for a second time - and an `own goal' by the Iranians.

`The IAEA had been led to believe they would have access to the Parchin military complex to investigate information that it was the site of unreported nuclear explosive-related experiments,' he said. `But hardliners in Tehran prevailed over those who wanted to demonstrate some flexibility in order to quiet the war-drums and slow down the sanctions that are beginning to strangle the Iranian economy.'

`They can't answer all of the questions honestly, because to do so would be to admit complicity in nuclear weapons development work, for which they would then be further penalised, unless the admissions came as part of a negotiation process that granted Iran immunity for admissions of past guilt.

`Still, Iran is usually more clever about giving the IAEA half answers. This time the inspectors apparently came away with no answers at all.'

ENDQUOTE

Your 'agenda' is to see Israel wiped off the map and to finish what Hitler started, A Mosque Ito.
 
2012-02-27 05:37:30 PM  

Somacandra: iracund


I learned a new word today. Weird. It's not just a word I had heard of before but wasn't sure of its meaning. It's a word I had never heard before and of course had no clue.

I will forget it in about 30 minutes.
 
2012-02-27 05:48:57 PM  
At least we won't have to hear much about this until after the election unless somebody pushes the button.
 
2012-02-27 05:51:27 PM  
Their guy ...

larussophobe.files.wordpress.com

Our guy ...

3.bp.blogspot.com

I wouldn't sweat it.
 
2012-02-27 06:55:59 PM  
i.r.id10t: [suddenarborealstop.files.wordpress.com image 204x203]

Never get involved in a land war in Asia ....


It worked out for the allies in CBI theater in WWII.....

Of course then again since Japan is an island and not part of mainland Asia it could be argued they are the ones that made the land wars in Asia blunnder.
 
2012-02-27 06:57:49 PM  

Porous Horace: Amos Quito:
Your link went to the JP front page - no article at all. Kind of hard to verify your quotes when that happens.

Oopsy. Link



In your post above you wrote: Today's Jerusalem Post

From your link: "By REUTERS 02/24/2012 19:16". That wasn't from today, it was from Friday, Porous Horace.

Oopsy indeed.


Porous Horace: See What is Iran hiding at Parchin?


The actual URL you linked to: http://iissvoicesblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/what-is-iran-hiding-a t-parchin/

That was from last Wednesday - before the last IAEA inspectors left Iran.

Oops again.


Porous Horace: and Iran defiant also by Mr. Fitzpatrick.


Again the actual URL you linked to: http://iissvoicesblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/iran-defiant/

That was from nearly two weeks ago, before the inspectors' last trip.

Oops again! (Are you trying to pull a fast one, Porous Horace?)


All of the links you posted are outdated and have been superseded thanks to the most recent visit. So lest you "Oops" again, let's recall what Mr. Fitzpatrick said in Today's Sydney Morning Herald:

Calls for calm as Iran nuclear risk discounted

Ruth Pollard
February 28, 2012

QUOTE:

As for Iran's recent announcements of the successful development of a third or fourth generation of centrifuges, there is doubt they have made it this far, said Mark Fitzpatrick, a non-proliferation expert at the International Institute of Strategic Studies.

Even if the regime began work to enrich uranium to the weapons-grade level, which is about 80 per cent or higher, it would still take more than a year to develop a weapon, Mr Fitzpatrick told the Herald.

The one significant development - Iran's production of uranium fuel rods - creates material that is only viable for use in medical radioactive isotopes.

''The rods have no chance of being weaponised,'' he said.


END QUOTE


Porous Horace: Your 'agenda' is to see Israel wiped off the map and to finish what Hitler started, A Mosque Ito.


i1121.photobucket.com

I have never seen such a pack of dishonest, underhanded, narcissistic and paranoid pack of whiners as you Zionists, Porous Horace.


/Do try to be more careful with your cites
 
2012-02-27 07:01:05 PM  

nopokerface: At least we won't have to hear much about this until after the election unless somebody pushes the button.


i1121.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-27 07:01:30 PM  
Oldiron_79: i.r.id10t: [suddenarborealstop.files.wordpress.com image 204x203]

Never get involved in a land war in Asia ....

It worked out for the allies in CBI theater in WWII.....

Of course then again since Japan is an island and not part of mainland Asia it could be argued they are the ones that made the land wars in Asia blunnder.


I just contradicted myself, INCONCEIVABLE
 
2012-02-27 07:02:44 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Their guy ...

[larussophobe.files.wordpress.com image 400x267]


WTF?????

Russia is a weird place. I don't even know what to think of Putin. I have no idea what his domestic policies are, mainly because they don't effect me at all.

His foreign policy seems to be more of a "fark you to the west" and I understand that attitude to an extent but not completely.

I certainly do not trust him. Would I vote for him if I were a Russian citizen? I can't say because I don't know who his opposition is - I may trust them even less and they don't appear to have a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

So I must conclude, based on your picture and all the pictures I've seen of Putin without his shirt that all Russians are secretly gay but you'd better not mention it because they'll down a bottle of vodak and sodomize you with it because they're all crazy.
 
2012-02-27 07:45:44 PM  

Amos Quito: trolling


eabod & diaf, Phil.
 
2012-02-27 07:50:26 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Amos Quito: trolling

eabod & diaf, Phil.



Ah, a man who knows he's outmatched and quits before he starts.

I can respect that.
 
2012-02-28 12:38:18 AM  
No need to worry. Our foreign policy has been set to 'apologize and bend over' for 4 years.
 
2012-02-28 02:02:40 AM  

Happy Hours: His foreign policy seems to be more of a "fark you to the west" and I understand that attitude to an extent but not completely.


Putin's policy is "Motherland is under attack, only Putin and his Siloviki can save it. If you vote against then you hate Russia". It's' different from Soviet Union's policy of "Motherland is under attack, only Communist Party can save it. If...." and Russian Empire' s policy of "Motherland is under attack, only Tsar can save it. If..."

Same or very similar policies are/were used by/in Assad, Ali Khamenei, Likud, North Korea, Nazi Germany

It's not a rocket science
 
2012-02-28 08:03:58 PM  

Amos Quito: Sorry, but the experts don't agree with your aggressive fear mongering, Porous Horace.


The experts agree PUBLICLY in UNCLASSIFIED press releases. Your sources are less obviously biased than the Jerusalem Post, but you're on crack if you think they're telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' until you can find a rock.' -- Will Rodgers

Iran has been and remains a dangerous rouge state, and is a proven sponsor of international terrorism, black ops, and organized crime (EG state-sponsored counterfeiting of US and European currency). While they're unlikely to openly launch a military strike,

I have little doubt they'd nuke someone if they had the weapon and a veneer of deniability. Dollars to donuts says that if they do manage in enriching some weapons-grade Uranium/Plutonium, they'll publicly announce that a critical mass's worth of it got stolen or is unaccounted for.

Of course this wouldn't be a problem if we dedicated some real resources towards moving Thorium based reactors out of the laboratory. The Thorium fuel cycle is FAR more difficult to weaponize than Uranium, which is precisely why the US hasn't made any significant investment it it since the 60s.
 
Esn
2012-02-29 01:33:46 AM  
FTA: Anti-Western rhetoric has been a key part of Putin's campaign, aimed at rallying support among his core electorate of blue-collar workers, farmers and state employees widely suspicious of the West after years of government propaganda.

It ain't because of government propaganda. It's because when the Russian people turned to the West in genuine friendship in the early 1990s, the West cashed in its chips, impoverishing the country through the advice of economic advisors that were sent in and expanding as far as possible politically and militarily into the old Russian sphere of influence. Eventually, the Russians realised that they were being taken for idiots, so now there is enormous public mistrust toward the West.

Not that you'll see something like that mentioned in an Associated Press article, of course. Much easier to just blame it all on propaganda and avoid taking any blame.

Foreigners must hate the West "for their freedoms", not because the West was being dicks to them.
 
Esn
2012-02-29 01:46:46 AM  

Happy Hours: Clemkadidlefark: Their guy ...

[larussophobe.files.wordpress.com image 400x267]


WTF?????

Russia is a weird place. I don't even know what to think of Putin. I have no idea what his domestic policies are, mainly because they don't effect me at all.

His foreign policy seems to be more of a "fark you to the west" and I understand that attitude to an extent but not completely.

I certainly do not trust him. Would I vote for him if I were a Russian citizen? I can't say because I don't know who his opposition is - I may trust them even less and they don't appear to have a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

So I must conclude, based on your picture and all the pictures I've seen of Putin without his shirt that all Russians are secretly gay but you'd better not mention it because they'll down a bottle of vodak and sodomize you with it because they're all crazy.


About that picture: basically, it's not considered culturally unusual in Russia to kiss children. Most Russians would see that picture as endearing - basically like the kissing-babies thing that politicians do in the US. Looks wrong to us here but nothing unusual over there.
 
2012-02-29 05:40:17 AM  

Esn: About that picture: basically, it's not considered culturally unusual in Russia to kiss children. Most Russians would see that picture as endearing - basically like the kissing-babies thing that politicians do in the US. Looks wrong to us here but nothing unusual over there.


Where must be lots of pictures with Russian politicians kissing boys on their stomachs in the streets then
 
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