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(Gothamist)   Brooklyn hipster biatches to NYC DEP about 64-year-old local deli because it smells too much like real roasted coffee and not enough like fair-trade double-roasted artisanally cuddled beans   (gothamist.com) divider line 153
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2012-02-27 01:10:16 AM
Actually according to the article it sounds like the owners suspect its the other urban heralds of gentrification: Breeders.
 
2012-02-27 01:29:19 AM
BumpInTheNight: Actually according to the article it sounds like the owners suspect its the other urban heralds of gentrification: Breeders.

There was probably no way the whiner could spin it into a "Won't someone think of the children" scenario.
 
2012-02-27 06:22:05 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure hipsters don't do a lot of shopping at J-Crew, subtard.

/did get a laugh out of "artisanally cuddled beans."

//which you will pry out of my cold dead fingers...
 
2012-02-27 08:52:04 AM
"It used to be people would come in and talk to the owners of stores if they had a problem," D'Amico mused. "Now people are too busy, they just call up 311 complain. They don't realize the dynamic of what they set off when the call. If the person with the problem had just come in we would have worked with them to try not to roast as much, or to figure out what time the roasting was a problem. We could have dealt with it."

I really have trouble believing that. That's like when my neighbors complain about me calling the cops on their loud parties at 4:00 AM, instead of just calling them and asking them to quiet down. I already asked you to quiet down once, and the next night you were at it again, so I started calling the cops instead. Tough shiat.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-02-27 09:46:14 AM
A decade ago they came for the bakeries (bread smell is pollution). Now they come for the coffee shops (coffee smell is pollution). What next?
 
2012-02-27 09:51:50 AM
serial_crusher: "It used to be people would come in and talk to the owners of stores if they had a problem," D'Amico mused. "Now people are too busy, they just call up 311 complain. They don't realize the dynamic of what they set off when the call. If the person with the problem had just come in we would have worked with them to try not to roast as much, or to figure out what time the roasting was a problem. We could have dealt with it."

I really have trouble believing that. That's like when my neighbors complain about me calling the cops on their loud parties at 4:00 AM, instead of just calling them and asking them to quiet down. I already asked you to quiet down once, and the next night you were at it again, so I started calling the cops instead. Tough shiat.


That's a f*cked up comparison. That shop has been roasting coffee beans for many years and the smell has wafted all over the neighborhood. I'm sure that whoever complained about it noticed a coffee roasting establishment when they looked at their new residence.
F*ck the whiners. They moved there and should accept this. Loud parties in the middle of the night are something different unless you moved there knowing that went on.
 
2012-02-27 10:00:21 AM
The whiner needs to switch to decaf.
 
2012-02-27 10:16:36 AM
Reminds me of the assholes in our neighborhood who complain about a new brick-oven pizza restaurant that opened here.

You are wrong.

It smells good.

The end.
 
2012-02-27 10:22:13 AM
serial_crusher: "It used to be people would come in and talk to the owners of stores if they had a problem," D'Amico mused. "Now people are too busy, they just call up 311 complain. They don't realize the dynamic of what they set off when the call. If the person with the problem had just come in we would have worked with them to try not to roast as much, or to figure out what time the roasting was a problem. We could have dealt with it."

I really have trouble believing that. That's like when my neighbors complain about me calling the cops on their loud parties at 4:00 AM, instead of just calling them and asking them to quiet down. I already asked you to quiet down once, and the next night you were at it again, so I started calling the cops instead. Tough shiat.


Nice try. The smell of coffee roasting is far different than loud music at 4am. Especially since its been there most likely before not only these idiots were born, but probably before their parents were born.

A noisy neighbor is something you can't predict. When you look to buy/rent a place, there is little chance you'd realize what you're getting into.

I know of people in my neighborhood who complain about the sound of train horns. Seriously? You had to drive over the tracks 10 times while looking for houses... and I promise you- since they run all day- you were delayed by one just getting into the neighborhood to look for your place. You knew what you were getting into.

/loves the sound of a train
//also loves the smell of our local coffee roaster
///if I didn't, I would have crossed this neighborhood off my list when looking for a house.
 
2012-02-27 10:53:53 AM
Really, that's the smell people are complaining about in Brooklyn?
 
2012-02-27 10:58:10 AM
AbbeySomeone: serial_crusher: "It used to be people would come in and talk to the owners of stores if they had a problem," D'Amico mused. "Now people are too busy, they just call up 311 complain. They don't realize the dynamic of what they set off when the call. If the person with the problem had just come in we would have worked with them to try not to roast as much, or to figure out what time the roasting was a problem. We could have dealt with it."

I really have trouble believing that. That's like when my neighbors complain about me calling the cops on their loud parties at 4:00 AM, instead of just calling them and asking them to quiet down. I already asked you to quiet down once, and the next night you were at it again, so I started calling the cops instead. Tough shiat.

That's a f*cked up comparison. That shop has been roasting coffee beans for many years and the smell has wafted all over the neighborhood. I'm sure that whoever complained about it noticed a coffee roasting establishment when they looked at their new residence.
F*ck the whiners. They moved there and should accept this. Loud parties in the middle of the night are something different unless you moved there knowing that went on.


Oh, I just meant that I thought that statement was bullshiat, not that I agreed with the neighbor. If the neighbor had come in and complained, would the store really have changed their schedule, and even produced less coffee, as they claim? I doubt it. They would have told the guy to fark off. And they'd largely be justified (except to the extent that they're not up to code since they thought they were grandfathered in, but evidently weren't. Neighbor's got some ground thanks to that).

downstairs: train horns

I'm sort of one one of those. The intersection near my house is one where the train isn't supposed to blow its horn, but every now and then they do anyhow. STFU already, train.
 
2012-02-27 10:58:55 AM
serial_crusher: "It used to be people would come in and talk to the owners of stores if they had a problem," D'Amico mused. "Now people are too busy, they just call up 311 complain. They don't realize the dynamic of what they set off when the call. If the person with the problem had just come in we would have worked with them to try not to roast as much, or to figure out what time the roasting was a problem. We could have dealt with it."

I really have trouble believing that. That's like when my neighbors complain about me calling the cops on their loud parties at 4:00 AM, instead of just calling them and asking them to quiet down. I already asked you to quiet down once, and the next night you were at it again, so I started calling the cops instead. Tough shiat.


The problem with seeing them directly is that then they know who is complaining and can harass that person.
 
2012-02-27 11:01:03 AM
ThunderPelvis: Yeah, I'm pretty sure hipsters don't do a lot of shopping at J-Crew, subtard.

/did get a laugh out of "artisanally cuddled beans."

//which you will pry out of my cold dead fingers...


Maybe I'm just lumping every asshole group into one, but I thought hipsters were the only people that shopped at J-Crew.
I apologize if my thought process marginalized your asshole fringe group.
 
2012-02-27 11:03:24 AM
Sybarite: Really, that's the smell people are complaining about in Brooklyn?

Wait till the coffee roaster goes out of business and is replaced by Myeong's Wholesale Kimchi Paradise.
 
2012-02-27 11:03:59 AM
R.A.Danny: ThunderPelvis: Yeah, I'm pretty sure hipsters don't do a lot of shopping at J-Crew, subtard.

/did get a laugh out of "artisanally cuddled beans."

//which you will pry out of my cold dead fingers...

Maybe I'm just lumping every asshole group into one, but I thought hipsters were the only people that shopped at J-Crew.
I apologize if my thought process marginalized your asshole fringe group.


The J-Crew people and the hipsters are at opposite ends of the asshole spectrum.
 
2012-02-27 11:08:02 AM
WTF? Who doesn't love the smell of freshly roasted coffee?
So few places roast their own these days, why in the name of f*ck would you want to try to stop one of them that does?

I wish I had a place like this near me. I'd go every damned day.
 
2012-02-27 11:18:00 AM
EvilEgg: R.A.Danny: ThunderPelvis: Yeah, I'm pretty sure hipsters don't do a lot of shopping at J-Crew, subtard.

/did get a laugh out of "artisanally cuddled beans."

//which you will pry out of my cold dead fingers...

Maybe I'm just lumping every asshole group into one, but I thought hipsters were the only people that shopped at J-Crew.
I apologize if my thought process marginalized your asshole fringe group.

The J-Crew people and the hipsters are at opposite ends of the asshole spectrum.


Heh. They all just look like assholes to me.
 
2012-02-27 11:19:23 AM
I mean, can't I get this spiffy outfit at J-Crew?

randomoverload.com
 
2012-02-27 11:31:10 AM
BumpInTheNight: Actually according to the article it sounds like the owners suspect its the other urban heralds of gentrification: Breeders.

Yeah. Sounds like he thinks it's more Park Slope-esque mommy mafia than hipsters.

R.A.Danny: Maybe I'm just lumping every asshole group into one, but I thought hipsters were the only people that shopped at J-Crew

No offense to you, but that's just further evidence that most of the use of the term "hipster" on this site is done with a completely incorrect idea about what it means.
 
2012-02-27 11:37:19 AM
FreakinB: No offense to you, but that's just further evidence that most of the use of the term "hipster" on this site is done with a completely incorrect idea about what it means.

Who cares?
 
2012-02-27 11:40:53 AM
serial_crusher: downstairs: train horns

I'm sort of one one of those. The intersection near my house is one where the train isn't supposed to blow its horn, but every now and then they do anyhow. STFU already, train.


I didn't know there were intersections where trains weren't allowed to blow horns? I thought they had to blow them at every one they cross over?
 
2012-02-27 12:30:34 PM
Hey, that's the place I buy my cheese! They make a fantastic sandwich as well.

This news makes me want to punt a whiner in the yambag.
 
2012-02-27 12:51:49 PM
"It used to be people would come in and talk to the owners of stores if they had a problem," D'Amico mused. "Now people are too busy, they just call up 311 complain. They don't realize the dynamic of what they set off when the call. If the person with the problem had just come in we would have called them an asshole, threw a cup of coffee at them, and threatened to kill them. We could have dealt with it our way."
 
2012-02-27 12:52:40 PM
This sounds like the idiots here who buy a house under the takeoff path from the local airport and then complain about the noise. Personally, I think whenever one of them biatches, the city should just condemn their house and flatten it. Or maybe rent it to deaf people.
 
2012-02-27 12:53:38 PM
downstairs:
I know of people in my neighborhood who complain about the sound of train horns. Seriously? You had to drive over the tracks 10 times while looking for houses... and I promise you- since they run all day- you were delayed by one just getting into the neighborhood to look for your place. You knew what you were getting into.

/loves the sound of a train
//also loves the smell of our local coffee roaster
///if I didn't, I would have crossed this neighborhood off my list when looking for a house.


I live near an executive airport so I deal with small jets flying over all day, especially in the morning and evening and on the weekends. A new neighbor bought the house next door and was apparently unaware that he was near an airport until he moved in. I have no idea how he missed Gulf Streams banking over his house roughly 100 times a day at the initial visit and home inspection.
 
2012-02-27 12:57:18 PM
R.A.Danny: I mean, can't I get this spiffy outfit at J-Crew?

[randomoverload.com image 387x500]


God, I have this overwhelming urge to find that guy, bag him, drop him in a shipping crate and send him to Zimbabwe. Let's see how your decorative medals and pocket watch play over there, you jack toad.
 
2012-02-27 12:57:18 PM
jjorsett: This sounds like the idiots here who buy a house under the takeoff path from the local airport and then complain about the noise. Personally, I think whenever one of them biatches, the city should just condemn their house and flatten it. Or maybe rent it to deaf people.

Like the idiots down the road from me. Developers put in a subdivision on a field near a working farm and then the new home owners biatch about the manure smell.
 
2012-02-27 01:01:44 PM
BumpInTheNight: Actually according to the article it sounds like the owners suspect its the other urban heralds of gentrification: Breeders.

... The B word, huh.

RANT TIME

Harry Potter book release: don't worry, no spoilers.

Showed up at seven, in full costume for a nine am release. Devoted no? I was one of the few to dress up, and I was the best-dressed. I'm not being vain, I honestly had the most detailed and accurate costume there.

We were told in line, that the best-dressed person in line gets to open the box and have the first Half-Blood Prince book. So, I'm a shoo-in, aren't I?

WRONG.

farking moo brings her bratty sprog in at 8:59am dressed in a generic Kmart cape with stars and glitter and farking gaudy BLAH. Twig for a wand.

OMG WITTLE PWESHUS SO CUTE OMG YOU CAN OPEN THE BOX AND HAVE THIS BOOK YOU CAN'T READ AND *fawning fawning, blatant breederism etc*

THE farkING KID WON'T EVEN REMEMBER THIS. THE BOX OPENING WAS MINE. MIIIIINE.

I wouldn't have minded if someone had said "Oh look Sass, you are best-dressed but would you mind if this land-mine amputee opened the box instead?" I would have said "Absolutely no problem. Go for it." But no. farkING CROTCHDROPPING GETS THE HONOUR. I'm furious. On principle of course, not out of any sense of entitlement. Well yes, entitlement also. But I WORKED FOR IT, I DESERVED IT.

I made an effort. I spent money making an effort. I showed up early. I will remember and treasure this event for ever and eternity. And I'm passed over for an ugly little brat with a sparkly tie. Woo farking woo.

I didn't stab her in the eye with my wand. I WANTED to. I talked about doing so VERY farkING LOUDLY. I was going to eviscerate her mother with the cover of my brand-new copy.

I farking hate breeders and child-lovers. farkING GO TO HELL.

I'm so pissed about this, sorry. It's just that in ten years time, this kid won't remember what she was doing on July 16th 2005. In ten years time, I will be remembering how I was deprived of this nerdly honor by an opportunistic twat breeder and her shiatling. I'm hurt. All my life, nothing has gotten to me more than being deliberately ignored, or passed over. Honestly; that's the sort of thing that can make me cry in public. Or key your car. Or viciously murder you and your family in the heat of frustration and never-ending denial Congratulations breeders, you win.

Edited to add: To all of you who are calling me immature etc, I'd like to add that you make a very good point, but have you considered GO fark YOURSELF? If you're so anal-retentive, go back to the other community and go on with your breeder-humping. Also, to the person who submitted this to fandom_wank, I seriously (no sarcasm) thank you. I've always wanted to be there!
(new window, NSFW).

/Sorry
//But every time I hear/read someone use that word
///These sad, and pathetic excuse of people come to mind
 
2012-02-27 01:03:19 PM
jayhawk88: R.A.Danny: I mean, can't I get this spiffy outfit at J-Crew?

[randomoverload.com image 387x500]

God, I have this overwhelming urge to find that guy, bag him, drop him in a shipping crate and send him to Zimbabwe. Let's see how your decorative medals and pocket watch play over there, you jack toad.


I know. I shouldn't let that guy upset me so, but I'd gladly toss him into a wood chipper.
 
2012-02-27 01:03:21 PM
My dad, a farking asshole, was convinced the new Burger King was using pre-cooked meat because they never emitted a bunch of greasy smoke. You know, instead of having an exhaust filter.

Now, if you eliminate the ability of shops to emanate aromas then you are interfering with the free speech of corporations. Ohhh... I'm glad I just thought of that one. You could use it to excuse anything. You know, that a big corporation does.
 
2012-02-27 01:05:44 PM
FreakinB: BumpInTheNight: Actually according to the article it sounds like the owners suspect its the other urban heralds of gentrification: Breeders.

Yeah. Sounds like he thinks it's more Park Slope-esque mommy mafia than hipsters.

R.A.Danny: Maybe I'm just lumping every asshole group into one, but I thought hipsters were the only people that shopped at J-Crew

No offense to you, but that's just further evidence that most of the use of the term "hipster" on this site is done with a completely incorrect idea about what it means.


I'll bite: What's it mean then?
 
2012-02-27 01:07:06 PM
So bad smells are banned in NYC?
*tearfully scratches out plans to visit the big apple from his bucket list*
 
2012-02-27 01:07:23 PM
regindyn: FreakinB: BumpInTheNight: Actually according to the article it sounds like the owners suspect its the other urban heralds of gentrification: Breeders.

Yeah. Sounds like he thinks it's more Park Slope-esque mommy mafia than hipsters.

R.A.Danny: Maybe I'm just lumping every asshole group into one, but I thought hipsters were the only people that shopped at J-Crew

No offense to you, but that's just further evidence that most of the use of the term "hipster" on this site is done with a completely incorrect idea about what it means.

I'll bite: What's it mean then?


viceland.com
pitchfork.com
americanapparel.net
urbanoutfitters.com
 
2012-02-27 01:09:50 PM
Rapmaster2000: regindyn: FreakinB: BumpInTheNight: Actually according to the article it sounds like the owners suspect its the other urban heralds of gentrification: Breeders.

Yeah. Sounds like he thinks it's more Park Slope-esque mommy mafia than hipsters.

R.A.Danny: Maybe I'm just lumping every asshole group into one, but I thought hipsters were the only people that shopped at J-Crew

No offense to you, but that's just further evidence that most of the use of the term "hipster" on this site is done with a completely incorrect idea about what it means.

I'll bite: What's it mean then?

viceland.com
pitchfork.com
americanapparel.net
urbanoutfitters.com


This is where you shop? Do you go there with FreakinB and share chai lattes?
 
2012-02-27 01:10:00 PM
Reminds me of the progressive NY and NJ people who move out here to take advantage of paying lower taxes and complain about the farmers around them using "manure in the guise of fertilizer"
 
2012-02-27 01:11:02 PM
R.A.Danny: Rapmaster2000: regindyn: FreakinB: BumpInTheNight: Actually according to the article it sounds like the owners suspect its the other urban heralds of gentrification: Breeders.

Yeah. Sounds like he thinks it's more Park Slope-esque mommy mafia than hipsters.

R.A.Danny: Maybe I'm just lumping every asshole group into one, but I thought hipsters were the only people that shopped at J-Crew

No offense to you, but that's just further evidence that most of the use of the term "hipster" on this site is done with a completely incorrect idea about what it means.

I'll bite: What's it mean then?

viceland.com
pitchfork.com
americanapparel.net
urbanoutfitters.com

This is where you shop? Do you go there with FreakinB and share chai lattes?


You're really bad at this. Your suburban wife is not a hipster.
 
2012-02-27 01:12:26 PM
R.A.Danny: Rapmaster2000: regindyn: FreakinB: BumpInTheNight: Actually according to the article it sounds like the owners suspect its the other urban heralds of gentrification: Breeders.

Yeah. Sounds like he thinks it's more Park Slope-esque mommy mafia than hipsters.

R.A.Danny: Maybe I'm just lumping every asshole group into one, but I thought hipsters were the only people that shopped at J-Crew

No offense to you, but that's just further evidence that most of the use of the term "hipster" on this site is done with a completely incorrect idea about what it means.

I'll bite: What's it mean then?

viceland.com
pitchfork.com
americanapparel.net
urbanoutfitters.com

This is where you shop? Do you go there with FreakinB and share chai lattes?


I never claimed to be a hipster. Just that I know what it means.
 
2012-02-27 01:15:24 PM
"Brooklyn hipster"

You misspelled douchebag.
 
2012-02-27 01:17:02 PM
Yeah, these aren't hipsters complaining.

This is gentrifiers and/or breeders.

Either way, I can't imagine the smell of coffee being something to complain about in NYC.

I'd much prefer the coffee than the Wendy's I smell along the way to the subway.
 
2012-02-27 01:23:12 PM
R.A.Danny: I mean, can't I get this spiffy outfit at J-Crew?

[randomoverload.com image 387x500]


Man, that is...wow. Does his religion not believe in mirrors or is he blind?
 
2012-02-27 01:23:33 PM
brap: Hey, that's the place I buy my cheese! They make a fantastic sandwich as well.

This news makes me want to punt a whiner in the yambag.


I do believe I shall do my best to go there this weekend, buy some of that coffee that I wish I could smell all the way over here in New Jersey, and also partake of a sandwich. Which sandwich do you recommend?
 
2012-02-27 01:23:44 PM
I'm going out on a limb here and bet that the author of this gem on Yelp is the likely source of the call to NY DEP:

2/16/2012

Smells awful from the street, like something is on fire. I wish they would filter the smell before unloading on everyone in the neighborhood.


D'Amico smells far better than the over-roasted Starbucks coffees that most of these genius children are accustomed to. That's the smell the neighborhood had when the young guys were returning from WWII to start their families and careers. It's a smell that survived the suburbanization of Brooklyn and the city allowing Brooklyn to go to Hell in a handbasket in order to save Manhattan in the 70's. You don't like it? Then pack up and move across the bridge.
 
2012-02-27 01:27:12 PM
R.A.Danny: FreakinB: No offense to you, but that's just further evidence that most of the use of the term "hipster" on this site is done with a completely incorrect idea about what it means.

Who cares?


Because you should be using the proper word: yuppie.
 
2012-02-27 01:30:38 PM
See when neighbors complained to 311 the DEP stopped by for a visit and discovered that the store never installed an afterburner (which helps reduce the smoke and smell from the roasting process)

Real story: Local business has been ignoring rules that everyone else has had to follow for years, now they have to comply.

But damn those hipsters straight to hell.
 
2012-02-27 01:40:41 PM
These people remind me of the people around where I live that paid $300 - 750K for condos and lofts in these rehabbed buildings that happen to be smack in the middle of a major bar strip. These idiots started demanding that the bars, which most had been there since the early 1900's, in that area shut down a 11pm on weeknights and midnight on weekends. Some people even demanded that the bars be closed completely and that area should be free of bars because now it was a high end residential area.
 
2012-02-27 01:45:02 PM
HotWingConspiracy: See when neighbors complained to 311 the DEP stopped by for a visit and discovered that the store never installed an afterburner (which helps reduce the smoke and smell from the roasting process)

Real story: Local business has been ignoring rules that everyone else has had to follow for years, now they have to comply.

But damn those hipsters straight to hell.


It sounds more like a badly worded law was put into place a few years ago that caused enough confusion that it wasn't properly enforced until somebody complained about a smell that for decades didn't bother anybody else.
 
2012-02-27 01:47:22 PM
downstairs: serial_crusher: downstairs: train horns

I'm sort of one one of those. The intersection near my house is one where the train isn't supposed to blow its horn, but every now and then they do anyhow. STFU already, train.

I didn't know there were intersections where trains weren't allowed to blow horns? I thought they had to blow them at every one they cross over?


They have some intersections that have gates that completely block the crossing versus only halfway. They have some method of making sure there aren't any cars being blocked in. Presumably by having a train move them out of the way.
 
2012-02-27 01:57:14 PM
Hey, keep your artisanally away from our food.
 
2012-02-27 02:02:26 PM
My favorite bar had to stop having live music on Friday night because 3 months ago a family with a new born baby moved into an apartment upstairs. It was always the same band that played and everyone always had a good time. I still don't know who in their right mind would think that living above a bar with a baby would be a good idea.
 
2012-02-27 02:03:59 PM
Reaperman: jjorsett: This sounds like the idiots here who buy a house under the takeoff path from the local airport and then complain about the noise. Personally, I think whenever one of them biatches, the city should just condemn their house and flatten it. Or maybe rent it to deaf people.

Like the idiots down the road from me. Developers put in a subdivision on a field near a working farm and then the new home owners biatch about the manure smell.


Those new home owners should be chained in their homes and set on fire. Do not fark with farmers.
 
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