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2003-10-23 12:53:44 PM
Oh, we're going, baby...



...unless the crafty Chinese beat us there first!!

It's called the Shin-Dig!!

Runs into room shouting this a la Jeff Goldblum in "The Right Stuff"
 
2003-10-23 01:01:59 PM
Thanks for the laugh Lars!
 
2003-10-23 01:04:55 PM
I think it would be worth it just to put a mustache, afro, goatee and glasses on this guy.
 
2003-10-23 01:34:12 PM
It amuses me when the mods don't read the articles.
 
2003-10-23 05:16:57 PM
LarsThornwald, LMAO. I just wish I had the DVD, because I can't find a pic of that.
 
2003-10-23 05:18:21 PM
Can we still blow up the moon?
 
2003-10-23 05:49:35 PM
Wow, I knew farkers often write misleading headlines, but I never thought one could bastardize the whole entire thing.

Headline: Mars is too expensive and a waste of time
Article: Life in lakes may give us clues to how life exists on Mars.
 
2003-10-23 05:51:06 PM
i get it. why go to Mars when we can look in this lake, here?

ooh, look, the lake needs women (obscure?)
 
2003-10-23 05:52:42 PM
Only Astronaut Jones gets the space booty.
 
CB
2003-10-23 05:52:53 PM
Uh, Headline Writer? Maybe you should RTFA!
 
2003-10-23 05:58:14 PM
Nobody loves the stupid Headline Writer.
 
2003-10-23 05:58:29 PM
GRRRRRR...... tirade about poster coming.... .I am just barely holding it back......
 
2003-10-23 06:01:29 PM
Mr. Headline Writer-

Fark = >75% NASA supporting. We want to go to Mars. We want to see people on Mars.

Suggest you move to England where their government refuses to support manned space activities. You pinko.
 
2003-10-23 06:06:38 PM
I thought that said "explode" at first... man my eyesight is bad.
 
2003-10-23 06:07:18 PM
skyotter gets it. discordian doesn't.
 
2003-10-23 06:11:55 PM
Discordian, exactly what is it you support at NASA?
 
2003-10-23 06:15:02 PM
i think discordian probably just wants to see the human race in space and it doesnt really matter who goes. although he wants to. right?

my 2cents
 
2003-10-23 06:16:38 PM
let's all go

i'll drive
 
2003-10-23 06:16:50 PM

Fark = >75% NASA supporting. We want to go to Mars. We want to see people on Mars.


fark that. I'll take you all on.


bunch of B.S. that's what going to Mars is.
 
2003-10-23 06:20:25 PM
Discordian36

Mr. Headline Writer-

Fark = >75% NASA supporting. We want to go to Mars. We want to see people on Mars.


Amen! Sadly we have a few very vocal (and underinformed - and sometimes crazy) opponents here on Fark.

I'm all for a Mars mission, I just think we need to setup a permanent moon base 1st. Without gravity or seismic activity, the moon is an ideal place for an array telescope. For a relatively small investment we could have a telescope that absolutely dwarfs Hubble in capability. For those of you who think telescopes are just for pretty pictures, please read up on all the advances in understanding the original, state, and fate of the universe as a result of Hubble.

When we go to Mars, I think we need to plan on staying for a while by setting up a permanent habitat. NASA is working on some interesting inflatable buildings that could be launched months in advance and await crew arrival.
 
2003-10-23 06:21:20 PM
underinformed ?

that's rich
 
2003-10-23 06:22:38 PM
Discordian36

Mr. Headline Writer-

Fark = >75% NASA supporting. We want to go to Mars. We want to see people on Mars.


Amen! Sadly we have a few very vocal (and underinformed - and sometimes crazy) opponents here on Fark.

I'm all for a Mars mission, I just think we need to setup a permanent moon base 1st. Without gravity or seismic activity, the moon is an ideal place for an array telescope. For a relatively small investment we could have a telescope that absolutely dwarfs Hubble in capability. For those of you who think telescopes are just for pretty pictures, please read up on all the advances in understanding the original, state, and fate of the universe as a result of Hubble.

When we go to Mars, I think we need to plan on staying for a while by setting up a permanent habitat. NASA is working on some interesting inflatable buildings that could be launched months in advance and await crew arrival.
 
2003-10-23 06:23:23 PM
WTF? Whenever I post from this computer it posts twice... testing, 1,2,3...
 
2003-10-23 06:23:42 PM
30,000 patents. One dollar spent by NASA results in nine dollars of commercial spinoffs to our economy. Would you pinkos rather spend money on welfare?



Read the f'in facts
 
2003-10-23 06:24:06 PM
It seems that the most willfully ignorant people are the ones that are all a flutter about visiting this rock.
 
2003-10-23 06:25:19 PM
Ah, clever, get your NASA propoganda right off their own websites. That's sure to be an unbiased reading of highly subjective data.
 
2003-10-23 06:25:52 PM
Discordian, exactly what is it you support at NASA?

Let me answer. Hope. We always hope the human race can use it's brains to do something good for the shear joy of exploring. The sense of hope drives us, it brought about microchips, the idea that we could beat any problem put before us. America used to have that hope. Yes, it's a bit of smoke and mirrors but the economy does better with hope for the future. You can't put hope on a spreadsheet.

Look at the Chineese, there's a great deal of hope in that country now, the rual areas are getting power, roads, a space program is in place, they have a maglev and Shanghi looks like it's a city of the future, not the past.
 
2003-10-23 06:26:25 PM
Before we go to Mars, maybe we should:

1) Figure out what to do with regards to the International Space Station
2) Figure out how to safely get astronauts to space and back safely (China and Russia did this this year, and we couldn't? Aiii.)
3) Figure out our plans a few steps deep. Is the future the ISS? Or is the ISS a step to colonizing the Moon [just don't detonate explosives and mess up the orbit] or Mars? After Mars, THEN what? Seems like we hit a brick wall at that point.
 
2003-10-23 06:27:32 PM
"willfully ignorant"

I bet the people with their heads up their asses said the same things about Cortez, Magelleon and the rest of those explorers.
 
2003-10-23 06:27:50 PM
typical example of NASA claims:

Golf Balls
 
2003-10-23 06:28:22 PM
WTF? Whenever I post from this computer it posts twice... testing, 1,2,3...
 
2003-10-23 06:28:26 PM
i think we should be mining the asteroids before we fark with mars, by the way. free materials, free energy, no gravity well
 
2003-10-23 06:28:39 PM
dbaggins you wouldn't have been able to post such a stupid message if it wasn't for NASA. LOL
 
2003-10-23 06:31:32 PM
Sorry for the double posts; I have no idea why it's happening. Trying this from a different browser...
 
2003-10-23 06:31:45 PM
Our ancient explorers had far more promise of a reward for their efforts.

They knew about Orient, and what could be had there on success

They knew about the Americas when Cortez went a searching

Columbus would have succeed in reaching the orient (apart for food) even if he hadn't hit America.


so, where is the gold in Mars ? ALL our current information tells us that it has nothing to offer us in terms of resources or human enrichment.

If Cortez were alive today, I very much doubt he'd get in that rocket to Mars.
 
2003-10-23 06:32:48 PM
dbaggins you wouldn't have been able to post such a stupid message if it wasn't for NASA. LOL


OK, I'm calling you on that one.


yoiu are going to have to explain how NASA contributed to my using the internet.
 
2003-10-23 06:33:37 PM
it was Al Gore, not NASA

sheeeesh
 
2003-10-23 06:33:56 PM
OK I got it now. NASA invented every bit of technology that is in use today. NASA gives hope to those in whatever depressed part of the country you want to choose, and by putting astronauts in earth orbit (as it has for 50 years), NASA is exploring brave new frontiers looking for spices and slaves and converting (or killing) aliens to our religion.

Boy was I ever misinformed.
 
2003-10-23 06:34:22 PM
Sorry for the double posts; I have no idea why it's happening. Trying this from a different browser...
 
2003-10-23 06:35:05 PM
NASA studies aerodynamics -> NASA engineer leaves NASA and works on golf ball aerodynamics -> NASA is responsible for Golf Ball technology.

feh.
 
2003-10-23 06:35:16 PM
so, where is the gold in Mars ? ALL our current information tells us that it has nothing to offer us in terms of resources or human enrichment.


It's all about the gold eh? Human enrichment can't be measured in gold, if you think so--you have my pity.
 
2003-10-23 06:37:16 PM
Ok dbaggins. Lets forget about science, research and any sort of exploration and progress. I'm with you. Lets stick with having my God fight your God. Let's maintain the tribal mentality.
Damn heathens.
 
2003-10-23 06:37:35 PM
optikeye

just an example.

I said " resources or human enrichment "

you understand the use of the word "or" right

or did you think I said "ore" ?
 
2003-10-23 06:38:26 PM
the content of the article has nothing to do with the headline here on fark (beyond being mars related).

boy, fark sure is great!
 
2003-10-23 06:38:46 PM
Nytmare- I get it. They've been doing this kind of study up in the arctic since the early 70's too, before and after the Viking missions to validate the science in their soil tests (let's hear it for labelled release!). Half of my post was a joke.

NASA- I support the institution, not it's leadership. I support the technicians and the scientists, the researchers and the astronauts. To fix NASA - Quadriple funding, fire all the top admin, and GIVE THEM A GOAL.
 
2003-10-23 06:41:01 PM
It's all moot anyways. The Americans are quickly falling by the wayside and I wouldn't be surprised if in the short future they will be surpassed by other countries that don't waste most of their time by passing restrictive laws on naming french fries and gradually removing the rights of their citizens.
While the Americans bicker amongst themselves the world will pass them by.
Go Lichtenstein!
 
2003-10-23 06:43:36 PM
biffman that's easy to say, but in this wolrd power is ALWAYS a representation of military power, the entirety of europe has less than a 20th of the logistical ability of the US military, and they are heading in the direcction of being even more weakened

as for laws, the eu economic laws are far more restrictive than the Us's

feel free to dream, and keep dreaming, but the truth is, it isnt about which country does well, it whether the individuals do well, so its on you to be a bad ass or schmuck, not root for your "team" country

that's why we win, we are ruthless
 
2003-10-23 06:44:07 PM
In addition, I don't hate NASA

there are many parts of NASA, some good, some foolish

manned space exploration: foolish

JPL: fabulous

Earth Science Enterprise: fabulous
 
2003-10-23 06:45:19 PM
Now, JPL as far as I'm concerned, is doing fine.

Drivinwest- I knew you'd arrive sooner or later. Whatever happened to the reference mission, I heard someone had dusted that off recently, with the new Project Prometheus research going on.... Personally, for a plan designed around the old Saturn V, I thought it made sense. Habs first, return vehicles, then rotating crews....

dbaggins-
You're obviously someone with very little imagination or curiousity... I feel bad for you. It must be a dull world that you live in.

Why e
 
2003-10-23 06:46:50 PM
dbaggins, let me guess--you're mid 20 something. In the 60's and 70's every kid with even the slightest intrest in science was inspired by the space program. That planted the seed of technology that spured not only the internet, but life-science and even the enviromental movement. The picture of Earth coming back from the moon shows this planet as a single thing 'spaceship earth'. It was no longer "not in my back yard" because everywhere was your back yard.
 
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