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2012-02-26 05:24:31 PM
MidnightSkulker: He's a 6'2" roughneck who spends 14 hours a day on an oil rig lifting 100lb+ equipment. I challenge anyone who thinks he's a pansy to tell him that to his face.

So he spends long hours away from land with nothing but sweaty men?

hmmmm
 
Boe
2012-02-26 05:26:06 PM
myinternetname: I won't comment on my beliefs one way or the other

But a job I had taking sales for jewelry on the phone, the women with hyphens or multiple last names on their profile were way more snotty than their single last name counterparts, on average.

On top of that most of them would become even worse if you didn't call them by what they expected. Company rule was to say the last name, only using the first name if you could not pronounce the last name.

So if I said "Yes Mrs. Goldstein" I'd get

IT IS GOLDSTEIN-MEYER-HILDAGO!

If I said the entire thing, it was a toss up which name she actually went by, and they were usually a huge biatch about it. If you got it right, they'd get you on the "Miss/Missrus" pronunciation.

Look biatch, where I'm from, we say MISS. Deal with it. Of course a lot of the customers were from larger cities in the Northeast, so maybe that is why they weer such coonts.


You're from the 1950's?
 
2012-02-26 05:27:43 PM
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2012-02-26 05:28:04 PM
I don't know too many women who kept their name, but the ones I do all seemed to have had sensible reasons. Reasonable reasons I can imagine or have heard of:

- Want to preserve hardwon name recognition in job.
- Husband has a stupid or common name like Smith wife has an exotic name so they both take hers.
- Husband has a name that really would clash with the wives first name.
- Wife has already children with her current last name and want to preserve family connection to them.
- Wife has no brothers and he has many so they take hers to preserve the name.
- Wife's name has a business attached to hit that was originally named after father or grandfather.
- Wife and husband are routinely addressed by the same title and preserve different last names to avoid confusion (like both being Dr. Smith.)
- Wife married another woman and one of them had keep her name.
- Just because.
 
2012-02-26 05:30:25 PM
I really didn't feel a need to read TFA beyond the word "Midwestern" in the graf.
 
2012-02-26 05:30:49 PM
jamieleighc: kendelrio: Calling bullshiat. Rig shifts are 12 hours long and lifting restriction is 50 lbs. Anything over 75 is required to use mechinical lifting....

Oh, and roughnecks mop the deck on the rig I'm on....

But DO carry on...

Service or drilling? The hubby works on a service rig, and he's worked many days up to 18 hours.


Doesn't matter..... regulations are regulations....
 
2012-02-26 05:32:05 PM
MidnightSkulker: jesus. do you carry his balls in your purse?

He's a 6'2" roughneck who spends 14 hours a day on an oil rig lifting 100lb+ equipment. I challenge anyone who thinks he's a pansy to tell him that to his face.


I get it, he is too dumb to know the difference.
 
2012-02-26 05:32:29 PM
Shouldn't have let them vote.

/All downhill from there
 
2012-02-26 05:33:34 PM
sweetmelissa31: I know someone who married a man with the last name Hyman and actually took his name.

Bit of a bad break for her.

*blink*

/Wot?
 
2012-02-26 05:34:33 PM
Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally, I think a husband and wife should select a *new* last name when they get married. I don't believe in the hyphenation crap-names get to long and after a few generations it's a nightmare. Instead, I think a new name should be construction from the letters of both names.

This way, no name is lost, no name appears first when hyphenated, and the married couple still share the same last name. It's not sexist because both people are changing their name. It's win-win-win.


No. How about nobody changes their name? What's the farking purpose after all? If they want to know if we're married, they can farking ask us. Just farking ask the question you overly-sensitive pretentious cocksuckers.
 
2012-02-26 05:36:37 PM
Mimic_Octopus: Freudian_slipknot: es

the point of a marriage is that is does not end. the name change is designed to be permanent. If you even have a doubt, dont get married in the first place.


That's so cute!

In today's society there are three levels of long term commitment:

Getting married. Minor commitment. Easily walked away from.

Buying a house together: This is a pretty serious commitment. Getting out of it is going to take some work.

Having a kid: This is the most significant commitment. You are going to be required to work together in come capacity for at least 18 years.
 
2012-02-26 05:39:45 PM
MidnightSkulker: My husband took my last name. *shrug* Has caused some confusion, but he wanted to so he did.

You must be a wild beast in the sack. I like you.
 
2012-02-26 05:41:52 PM
Hell, they judge you for taking it too.
 
2012-02-26 05:43:08 PM
Well my plan is to gain about 250 pounds and change my last name to "Dotcom."
 
2012-02-26 05:44:08 PM
I didn't take my husbands name. He was the one that actually said its offensive to women to have to take their husbands name. His father (only living immediate family member on his side) is completely in agreement with his mentality as well.

I just didn't change it because its a pain in the ass. From driving licenses, gun licenses, to security clearances for employment, it would be just another headache if I had a name change.

My family isn't pleased about it though. They keep insisting on calling me by hubby's last name.... even going so far as to addressing mail items to me with his last name. One of these days UPS isn't going to let me accept a parcel, I can just see it.

Our daughter has hubby's last name though... which stresses my mom out even more because she is scared that people will think we have a bastard child or something. -_-
 
2012-02-26 05:44:16 PM
jst3p: MidnightSkulker: jesus. do you carry his balls in your purse?

He's a 6'2" roughneck who spends 14 hours a day on an oil rig lifting 100lb+ equipment. I challenge anyone who thinks he's a pansy to tell him that to his face.

I get it, he is too dumb to know the difference.


Oh, I get it! Big guy stoopid!


OLOLOLOL!!!1
 
2012-02-26 05:48:19 PM
jst3p: Mimic_Octopus: Freudian_slipknot: es

the point of a marriage is that is does not end. the name change is designed to be permanent. If you even have a doubt, dont get married in the first place.

That's so cute!

In today's society there are three levels of long term commitment:

Getting married. Minor commitment. Easily walked away from.

Buying a house together: This is a pretty serious commitment. Getting out of it is going to take some work.

Having a kid: This is the most significant commitment. You are going to be required to work together in come capacity for at least 18 years.


this is the most insightful fark post ever
 
2012-02-26 05:49:05 PM
Dreamless: jst3p: MidnightSkulker: jesus. do you carry his balls in your purse?

He's a 6'2" roughneck who spends 14 hours a day on an oil rig lifting 100lb+ equipment. I challenge anyone who thinks he's a pansy to tell him that to his face.

I get it, he is too dumb to know the difference.

Oh, I get it! Big guy stoopid!


OLOLOLOL!!!1


You are right, smart individuals with useful skills often work in risky positions and are paid for their menial labor.
 
2012-02-26 05:51:55 PM
It could happen. Just like mouth-breathing, misogynist shiatstains can somehow operate a computer well enough to post on Fark.
 
2012-02-26 05:53:24 PM
EvilEgg: dahmers love zombie: Ah, yes. Protesting the sexist hegemony by keeping your FATHER's name. Good jorb.

Instead keep your mother's father's name.



I know someone who did this, sorta.

He was given his father's last name at birth, but the father was a deadbeat drug addict. When he got old enough, he and his mother (who also had her ex-husband's surname but didn't care for it, either...she kept it so that her children would have the same name as her) both changed their names to her maiden name---her father's name==his maternal grandfather's name ---since that's the only side of their families they associated with.
 
2012-02-26 05:54:18 PM
Dreamless: It could happen. Just like mouth-breathing, misogynist shiatstains can somehow operate a computer well enough to post on Fark.

He does make a good point, roughnecks are rarely picked for their cognitive abilities. And it is often funny seeing what happens when you give some coon assess decent money..
 
2012-02-26 05:55:18 PM
Me? I really don't give a shiat what people want to call themselves or what name they want to assume, adopt, or change.
No skin off my back. Really.

Now on the other hand, if you decide to be a total shiatcock and give your child a stupid name like "Destynee" or "Freedom" or "Apple" or some other non-conventional BS name... too bad for the kid. Nothing I can do about it, but roll my "inner" eyes and ignore the fact you've branded your kid with a dumbass label for the remainder of their life (or until they change it). A case of grin and bear it, I suppose.

/true story. Knew a family whose last name was "Benz'.
//Yes... they named their daughter 'Mercedes'
///shiatcocks!!
 
2012-02-26 05:56:34 PM
I am too lazy to change my last name on forms, cards, etc.. I assume my future wife will be as lazy and unconcerned about this. As for children, she has first naming rights to them; maybe she wants others to know this wonderful creature came from her, or perhaps she knows children of mine will be a blight upon the world and should be rightly identified with my name.
 
2012-02-26 05:57:05 PM
quatchi: Bit of a bad break for her.

I think it's bloody weird.
 
2012-02-26 05:58:13 PM
lilplatinum: Dreamless: It could happen. Just like mouth-breathing, misogynist shiatstains can somehow operate a computer well enough to post on Fark.

He does make a good point, roughnecks are rarely picked for their cognitive abilities. And it is often funny seeing what happens when you give some coon assess decent money..


That would make sense if this were a cognitive issue. Or perhaps he just believes that anyone would see the world his way if only they were smart enough.
 
2012-02-26 05:59:42 PM
kendelrio: jamieleighc: kendelrio: Calling bullshiat. Rig shifts are 12 hours long and lifting restriction is 50 lbs. Anything over 75 is required to use mechinical lifting....

Oh, and roughnecks mop the deck on the rig I'm on....

But DO carry on...

Service or drilling? The hubby works on a service rig, and he's worked many days up to 18 hours.

Doesn't matter..... regulations are regulations....


Roughnecks do a hell of a lot more on service rigs than just mop the deck. Also, regulations differ from state to state, province, etc. That doesn't make her statement bullshiat.
 
2012-02-26 06:03:11 PM
I told my wife that she could take my name or not as she saw fit, it really made no difference to me. But, under no circumstances would we do that hyphenation stuff. Me, or the hyphen.
 
2012-02-26 06:03:37 PM
But a ":property of ..." tattoo on the forehead is still OK?
But seriously, should it be tattooed in normal letters for other to read or in reflected script so she see's it in the mirror? I'm so confused.
 
2012-02-26 06:03:56 PM
quoinguy: Smeggy Smurf: Mrs. Smurf hyphenated her name for the only good reason I've ever heard.

After her first marriage she never switched back to her maiden name. This was for the benefit of her kids. Her ex remarried first. The new broad took his name. In order for nobody to have any confusion as to the mother of the children, my wife hyphenated her name. She's planning on changing it once the kids are all out of the house.

I would agree with this. Someone I used work with had the same type of situation. Legal confusion after divorces is a sound reason to specify who is who.

Traditional first marriages, though, it smacks of planning to get divorced.


It's less about legal stuff then everybody in social circles not knowing. Neither I nor my wife have primary custody of our kids (screwed by my lawyers and small town politics for hers). It can and does lead to a lot of confusion. 3 kids, three different last names and her ex has a new kid as well. It's a discombobulated clusterfark for new people to figure out. Thankfully my wife's kids look like her and my son looks like me.
 
2012-02-26 06:07:10 PM
Rincewind53: Taking your wife's name is not an indication of lack of manhood.

Elaine: "You know, George, just admitting that another man is attractive doesn't necessarily mean you're gay."
George: (pause) "It doesn't help."
 
2012-02-26 06:07:55 PM
Equality certainly isn't such an independent decision when they cash the alimony/child support checks.

I am woman hear me roar, in numbers too bi.,.... uh, bi.... uh, yeah just sign there,... and then there,.... aaaaand there,,..

Oh wait, where was I, oh yeah, "...Oh Oprah/Dr.Phil, he was such a bastage and I'm such a victim,... " repeat ad nauseum

You want equality? Suck it up princess and deal with reality like the rest of us 'stupid, pathetic, incompetent men,... wwaaaaa'....

/midrnitrite?
 
2012-02-26 06:08:25 PM
I don't really care about wife's name, but any and all children must take my last name and only my last name. This is non-negotiable. I understand if wife is a published author where people might search for her work under her maiden name; this is acceptable and I have several friends who are in this boat.
 
2012-02-26 06:12:13 PM
Here's what the argument sounds like: "You know what? I don't like your last name. It isn't ____ enough for my tastes. Here, let me judge you for it."

It's pretty hyper-controlling and ultimately pointless.
 
2012-02-26 06:19:14 PM
tortilla burger: I don't really care about wife's name, but any and all children must take my last name and only my last name. This is non-negotiable. I understand if wife is a published author where people might search for her work under her maiden name; this is acceptable and I have several friends who are in this boat.

I think what name you give yourself is a fairly unimportant stylistic matter compared to the issue of what you name your kids.

You can take whatever name you want when you get married, but if you decide to name your kid Madison Parchimenko-Smith-Wagner to make some sort of point about equality, then your kid is going to call you a self-centered sanctimonious windbag and your kid is going to be right. There's no good reason to curse a kid with a joined list instead of a surname.
 
2012-02-26 06:23:05 PM
TheDumbBlonde: Oh for God's sake. Who the fark cares about any of this? Change your name, don't change your name, make up a name. The world will carry on just the same.

Yep.
 
2012-02-26 06:28:06 PM
Rincewind53: So what Subby is saying is that society has a right to be sexist? Okay then, whatever you say. You go on thinking that while the rest of us try to change things for the better.

You are going to be a lawyer in DC. There is no way you will ever make anything better for anyone. You will most likely be at least partially responsible for the continuing decline of Western civilization. Go ahead and argue, I could use the laughs.
 
2012-02-26 06:28:31 PM
Xcott: tortilla burger: I don't really care about wife's name, but any and all children must take my last name and only my last name. This is non-negotiable. I understand if wife is a published author where people might search for her work under her maiden name; this is acceptable and I have several friends who are in this boat.

I think what name you give yourself is a fairly unimportant stylistic matter compared to the issue of what you name your kids.

You can take whatever name you want when you get married, but if you decide to name your kid Madison Parchimenko-Smith-Wagner to make some sort of point about equality, then your kid is going to call you a self-centered sanctimonious windbag and your kid is going to be right. There's no good reason to curse a kid with a joined list instead of a surname.


Well.. you could do something with it... like John Bear-Butte or Jane Wacket-Hoff

Failing that, you can play with their initials. Freddie Ulrich Chadwick-Keller or John Orval Higgins-Nimitz.

It's pretty ridiculous to have family surnames follow the guys name in the first place. How about when you get married, you both choose a new last name for you and your kids.
 
2012-02-26 06:28:41 PM
tortilla burger & Xcott

/favorited
 
2012-02-26 06:30:14 PM
Maestro1701: Rincewind53: So what Subby is saying is that society has a right to be sexist? Okay then, whatever you say. You go on thinking that while the rest of us try to change things for the better.

You are going to be a lawyer in DC. There is no way you will ever make anything better for anyone. You will most likely be at least partially responsible for the continuing decline of Western civilization. Go ahead and argue, I could use the laughs.


I don't know either one of you but this is one of the greatest posts of all time.
 
2012-02-26 06:32:04 PM
FirstNationalBastard: brap: sweetmelissa31: I know someone who married a man with the last name Hyman and actually took his name.

I friend of mine married a Testes.

Did she get the shaft?




I haven't seen my ex in years and the dumb biatch still has my last name, and a kid with someone else. I'm sure the guy just loves that. Whatever, he is her problem now.
 
2012-02-26 06:33:29 PM
darthaegis: Worked with a guy a long time ago and one day he came in super pissed and was just not worth dealing with so I went up and asked if everything was alright.

His ex-wife was changing her last name back to her maiden name.

They didn't have any kids and had been divorced for almost 10 years and he was completely beside himself that she was ditching his las name.



Sorry I quoted the wrong person above, and meant to say

I haven't seen my ex in nine years and the dumb biatch still has my last name, and a kid with someone else. I'm sure the guy just loves that. Whatever, he is her problem now.
 
2012-02-26 06:34:14 PM
Xcott: There's no good reason to curse a kid with a joined list instead of a surname.

'Curse' how? I think it's pretty clear that, like so many similar arguments, this comes down to suggesting that everyone should be concerned about the opinions of the stupidest people in society.
 
2012-02-26 06:35:35 PM
letrole: My surname is Le Trôle.

OK, that was funny.
 
2012-02-26 06:35:42 PM
MidnightSkulker: quatchi:

Always wondered about that. In cases where the wife-to-be has a cooler last name than the guy or if she is the last person in her line with that last name and wants to perpetuate it then the guy taking the woman's last name makes sense to me. But it does rather posit the question "Is society at a place yet where a guy can take his wife's last name and not spent the rest of life hearing *whip crack* noises being made behind his back?"

iamrex:

jesus. do you carry his balls in your purse?

He's a 6'2" roughneck who spends 14 hours a day on an oil rig lifting 100lb+ equipment. I challenge anyone who thinks he's a pansy to tell him that to his face.


He's not a pansy. He'd have to be a lot tougher to reach the level of 'pansy.' Pansies everywhere are offended at having him numbered among them. His wife has to defend his manhood for him...

See how stupid the whole "I challenge..." thing is on the internet?
 
2012-02-26 06:36:14 PM
myinternetname: darthaegis: Worked with a guy a long time ago and one day he came in super pissed and was just not worth dealing with so I went up and asked if everything was alright.

His ex-wife was changing her last name back to her maiden name.

They didn't have any kids and had been divorced for almost 10 years and he was completely beside himself that she was ditching his las name.


Sorry I quoted the wrong person above, and meant to say

I haven't seen my ex in nine years and the dumb biatch still has my last name, and a kid with someone else. I'm sure the guy just loves that. Whatever, he is her problem now.


It's a hassle. She didn't want to go through all that again. Not for the new guy and not to switch it back. It's the path of least resistance.
 
2012-02-26 06:36:59 PM
Sylvia_Bandersnatch: 'Curse' how? I think it's pretty clear that, like so many similar arguments, this comes down to suggesting that everyone should be concerned about the opinions of the stupidest people in society.

Unfortunately children will have to deal with the ramifications of other people's opinions despite your outrage at how unjustly said opinions are formed.
 
2012-02-26 06:37:12 PM
I took her name just to troll people.

When I make bookings, people expect a polite Japanese couple to show up. Instead they get a big drunken, foul mouthed white trash cracker whose idea of highbrow wit is to ask people to "pull my finger".

"Waiter, we need another ice bucket... I threw up in this one"
 
2012-02-26 06:37:30 PM
Mimic_Octopus: the point of a marriage is that is does not end. the name change is designed to be permanent. If you even have a doubt, dont get married in the first place.

How idiotically simplistic. I'd love to live in your magical world where people don't change and nothing bad ever happens, but instead I ended up in a world where I had no doubts about my marriage at all. Until my husband decided a few years in that he just didn't feel like having a job anymore. Or doing anything around the house to help out. And spent that time instead farking everything that would let him stick his dick into it.

But you're right. I should have known that the man I married (and his parents) had chosen to hide a history of mental illness from me until well into our second year of marriage when he started abusing prescription drugs.

Really, the huge pain of having to not only deal with my life falling to pieces around me but also dealing with the logistical nightmare of changing my name legally on everything from medical records to insurance are just my fault for recklessly jumping into a mid-twenties marriage after only three years of dating and two of living together.

Thanks for the insight, moron. I appreciate it.
 
2012-02-26 06:42:02 PM
tortilla burger: I don't really care about wife's name, but any and all children must take my last name and only my last name. This is non-negotiable.

I bet you're a joy to live with.
 
2012-02-26 06:43:49 PM
My wife never changed her last name. I got pulled over once in her car, which was in her name. The cop asked me who's car it was, and I told him it was my wife's. He asked me why she hadn't changed her name and when I told him its really none of his business he tried to tell me she had to change her name within two weeks of getting married. I told him to go arrest her.
 
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