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2012-02-26 02:03:05 PM  
Answer One: The compacted trash blocks were jettisoned than then used as target practice for Death Star gunners, who needed as much practice as they could get.

Answer Two: IT'S JUST A FARKING MOVIE!!
 
2012-02-26 02:36:37 PM  
1) Leia didn't know it led to a trash compactor. The reason why you vent the fetid smell into the prison block, is to make it dank. The empire loves misery.

2) Not sure why they would have both walls move.

3) I would assume it moves slowly because of force necessary to compact the trash. If you have a big hydraulic cylinder, it will move slowly, but with more force. And the rod wasn't a problem at all if I recall correctly, they were grasping at giant metal straws. And even if it was, sometimes compactors get jammed up if things wedge in just right.

4) Crushing in two directions is harder, the point here is just to make more room in the collection bin, once you eject it, who cares what it looks like?

5) The creature is trained to leave on cue a small door opens and lets it out before compaction begins. This also happens when maintenance has to enter.

6) They aren't recycling, it's just about reducing size.

7) Stormtroopers are horrible about separating trash, so a system was put in place to reduce the problem when they don't.

8) There may very well have been garbage scows, but it is best if you can live without on a warship.

9) You have compactors because if the D.S. is just hanging about you would quickly have a fog of trash mucking up your windows and such if you just ejected it all the time while just sitting there. So they store it up to eject just before leaving.

/I may have put too much time into thinking about this already.
 
2012-02-26 02:38:37 PM  

Man On A Mission: Answer One: The compacted trash blocks were jettisoned than then used as target practice for Death Star gunners, who needed as much practice as they could get.

Answer Two: IT'S JUST A FARKING MOVIE!!


I know, I know, 'It's just a movie'....or 'it's just a book'...or 'it's just a story'.

I get that. But is it really that hard to create a fictional world that is internally consistent with itself?
 
2012-02-26 02:40:55 PM  
I want it noted that this thread should have copious amounts of twileck slave girls.
 
2012-02-26 02:41:18 PM  
Oh, I thought of answer to all of them. The Empire had crappy engineers as evidenced by making the same security hole on both death stars.
 
2012-02-26 02:47:53 PM  
Plot Device: A part of the story used to advance the plot further.
 
2012-02-26 02:57:05 PM  
The Creature in the water represents Luke's sub-conscious and as he battles it he is really battle himself. This was actually a dream sequence that only savvy movie goers could pick up on.

The creature is actually foreshadowing the eventual death of Luke's hand.
 
2012-02-26 02:58:18 PM  
This one trash pit was specially built as part of the prison complex. If you managed to get into the trash pit they could watch as the walls closed in and they decided if you merited rescue.

If you failed to please them... Well, that's what they worm thing was for. Body disposal.

Considering 80% of a space station is plumbing I doubt the rest of the Death Star would have a mixed solid / liquid waste stream. You just don't want an access point for prisoners into the bigger waste system.
 
2012-02-26 03:04:25 PM  
Regarding the smell, in Dark Force RIsing Luke has the occasion to pass through another trash compactor (though in the other direction) in the course of breaking out a prisoner from a star destroyer's detention area. The author explicitly notes that there's a force field at the bottom of the trash chute that lets through solid objects but blocks air movement, so there wouldn't be any smell leaking out into the area serviced by that chute. I don't see any reason why the death star's compactors wouldn't have that system as well.

As for the 'why compact at all' question, I'd assume it's for ease of handling. It's gotta be a lot easier to move solid blocks of trash around than to move piles of loose junk. Remember, if the trash is to be ejected, it's got to be moved from wherever it originated to the outside skin of the station, which could be quite a few kilometers.

/yes, it is indeed sad that I can remember that off the top of my head
 
2012-02-26 03:11:35 PM  
One wonders why the Imperials weren't waiting at the maintenance hatch when they escaped.

It's not like they couldn't find out where that shaft went that the prisoner obviously escaped into. They were trapped in there for a good 5 to 10 minutes at least.
 
2012-02-26 03:14:35 PM  
I am so going to nerd it up here:

In the EU there are forcefields that deal with odors and microbes etc, (Shatterpoint), one of those thingies could have been put in the vent.

Making a prison cell sink like fetid garbage may be part of a plan of psychological torture. The Empire was not above a little torture.

Finally, there would be no need for garbage scows as there would be many groups that would gladly clean up the Empire's garbage to scavenge spare parts and recycleable stuff.

As for the creature in the compator, well, I'm fairly certain it hitiched a ride there with something and was flushed (think of a flushed goldfish). It figured out how to live of the waste in that compator.
The holes it escaped through are probably there because compacting liquids is very difficult.

/done nerding it up.
 
2012-02-26 03:16:24 PM  

MuonNeutrino: Regarding the smell, in Dark Force RIsing Luke has the occasion to pass through another trash compactor (though in the other direction) in the course of breaking out a prisoner from a star destroyer's detention area. The author explicitly notes that there's a force field at the bottom of the trash chute that lets through solid objects but blocks air movement, so there wouldn't be any smell leaking out into the area serviced by that chute. I don't see any reason why the death star's compactors wouldn't have that system as well.



So why have a feed chute that goes directly to a cellblock with a cover you apparently have to blast a hole in to get anything into it?

Kind of a stupid design really.. Integrating a handy escape chute into your high security detention area.
 
2012-02-26 03:20:18 PM  
I had a coworker send me this article a couple of weeks ago. My hastily composed rebuttal was:

1) The fetid smell is desired because it's on the prison cell level. They want to torture the prisoners olfactory sense.
2) Contractors routinely want to engineer a more complex solution, in order to increase costs to line their pockets.
3) It compacts slowly because of the large hydraulic cylinder being used.
4) If it compacted from ceiling to floor, they'd have to have some of the mechanicals above the actual compaction chamber. This would eat into the available prison cell space, so that design was rejected.
5) Stormtroopers are a dime a dozen....they're clones, so who cares?
6) The Empire cares not for separate recycling, that's a bunch of hippie rebel crap.
7) See #2
8) Then you have the garbage union to worry about, and we all know that's run by the mob. The Empire doesn't want any competition.
9) Because some sr. level manager somewhere saw the need to make himself look important and involved and thus, suggested they compact the trash. He likely presented all sorts of charts in a PowerPoint presentation showing potential cost savings.
 
2012-02-26 03:22:57 PM  
BTW: I believe the "worm thing" was called a Dianoga and they spread somewhat like mollusks. They stow away in a microscopic larval form and then grow, feed, and reproduce in their new environment (typically trash storage areas). Sort of like how certain invasive species of oyster and clam spread by stowing away in the bilges of ships.
 
2012-02-26 03:29:13 PM  
And regarding the whole idea that the Empire uses the stench as a psychological torture:

Why vent that into the bay itself instead of the individual cells? If that's your purpose, then you don't need a vent big enough to fit a Wookie in. You can just use small ducts behind the bulkheads.

Mr. Lucas! I have questions!

/hands up, squirming about in chair
 
2012-02-26 03:34:45 PM  
1. "...Would not it have been more prudent for the designers of the Death Star to opt for a closed system, like a septic tank?"

The Imperial designers also thought a slow, walking quadruped was a good design for a troop transport. "Prudent" is not in their vocabulary.

2. See #1

3. See #1

4. See #1

5. Presumes more knowledge of the trash compaction process than is shown. For all we know, the compacted trash goes through additional processing.

6. See #5

7. Presumes the trash compactor creature is there by design. More likely, when it was much smaller, it was brought aboard (knowingly or not) by a crew member and subsequently disposed of, where it found the compactor environment beneficial, and grew to its enormous size.

8. See #7

9. 5. Presumes more knowledge of the trash compaction process than is shown. For all we know, the compacted trash is launched into nearby suns.
 
2012-02-26 03:42:19 PM  

frak21: MuonNeutrino: Regarding the smell, in Dark Force RIsing Luke has the occasion to pass through another trash compactor (though in the other direction) in the course of breaking out a prisoner from a star destroyer's detention area. The author explicitly notes that there's a force field at the bottom of the trash chute that lets through solid objects but blocks air movement, so there wouldn't be any smell leaking out into the area serviced by that chute. I don't see any reason why the death star's compactors wouldn't have that system as well.


So why have a feed chute that goes directly to a cellblock with a cover you apparently have to blast a hole in to get anything into it?

Kind of a stupid design really.. Integrating a handy escape chute into your high security detention area.


I would assume the cover is designed to open in some way. It would be silly to have a trash system that you can't actually throw anything away in. My guess is that the cover opens, but is normally locked so that prisoners wouldn't be able to get in. I doubt the empire thought that the prisoners would have blasters.

As to why it's there at all, the answer (imo) is fairly simple, if rather callous. Recall just *who* owns this cell block. The empire routinely executes prisoners (or just tortures them to death) - they need a way to dispose of dead bodies, and this is a nice and simple one.

Anyway. I decided to go back through and give a more comprehensive answer to some of the article's points, especially the last one:

1: Already covered in my previous post.

2: True, but relatively unimportant. If you're building an entire farking death star you're already pouring nigh incomprehensibly vast amounts of resources into the project. And also, since when did anyone ever hear of a government project that did *anything* in the most efficient way? Seriously?

3: As evidenced by how easily the rod is broken, it doesn't actually make any difference. That was Han trying anything he could think of, no matter how futile, to stop the walls, not a serious obstacle to their being squished.

4: Why is that necessarily the only stage of trash compaction? It certainly makes sense to compact trash in all 3 dimensions if possible. However, it seems *much* simpler, mechanically speaking, to build a 3 stage compactor - compact horizontally, the floor opens and drops the plate of trash into a narrow slot where it is compacted vertically, the stick of trash is then pushed into a hollow tube where it is compacted in the last direction. Or, even simpler, all three walls of the original compactor *do* move, but only one set at a time - first the long walls, then a 1-2m-ish wide section of the ceiling drops down, then a 1-2m-ish square section of the last wall slides inward to compact the trash into a cube. Spend a few minutes trying to think of a way to build a chamber where all 6 walls squeeze in simultaneously; it's going to be a *very* complicated system.

5-7: I will note that I don't think we were ever told whether the creature was there intentionally or not. It doesn't seem completely beyond the bounds of possibility that this strange trash parasite might manage to survive in the trash system without the designers intentionally putting it there. Otherwise, yes, I do agree that this would be a really weird way to design a trash system.

8: Why would garbage ships represent a lesser investment of resources than simply building trash disposal facilities into ships and stations? Why would the empire care about properly disposing of trash anyway?

9: As noted before, trash would be compacted for ease of handling more than anything else. Also, he's actually got this backward - uncompacted trash would actually be *more* of a hazard to navigation than compacted trash. The critical thing he overlooks is that uncompacted trash wouldn't simply hang together in looser, less dense chunks, but would spread out into its component pieces to cover vast volumes of space.

Space is big enough that it really doesn't *matter* what size a piece of debris is, the chances of colliding with it are roughly the same. Thus, your chances of hitting a piece of debris scale with the *number* of pieces. Therefore, uncompacted trash would add *far* more potential collisions than compacted trash would.

Second, at the speeds starships would have to travel at, the size of a piece of junk wouldn't be especially important in terms of the damage caused. Either the ship will be fine or it'll be dead, regardless of whether it flew into a small piece of pipe or an entire compacted chunk. Anything with shields capable of withstanding a torpedo strike or turbolaser volley (i.e. any capital ship) would be fine either way, and anything small and shieldless like a tie fighter would be *dead* either way.

Also, again noting that uncompacted trash *scatters* rather than hanging together, it would actually be far *less* visible on scanners. Since individual pieces of trash are going to be *very* widely separated from each other regardless of their size, you want each piece to be as big of a radar target as possible. It'll be a lot easier to see a compacted block of trash rather than a single bolt. This further mitigates the danger from these large chunks of debris, since they are far more easily seen and either avoided or shot down by point defense.

In other words, overall, which piece of space would you rather fly through - a thousand cubic kilometers containing one invisible piece of junk per cubic kilometer, or a thousand cubic kilometers containing a net total of *one* much more visible cubic meter sized piece of trash, given that *any* collision would be equally deadly?

/Don't use arguments about the size of space unless you want astronomers to come pick them apart!
//I know more about space than the guy who wrote that article.
 
2012-02-26 03:48:16 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Man On A Mission: Answer One: The compacted trash blocks were jettisoned than then used as target practice for Death Star gunners, who needed as much practice as they could get.

Answer Two: IT'S JUST A FARKING MOVIE!!

I know, I know, 'It's just a movie'....or 'it's just a book'...or 'it's just a story'.

I get that. But is it really that hard to create a fictional world that is internally consistent with itself?


You can do it, but writers have deadlines to deal with and they'd rather spend their time on the main plot than the minutiae.
 
2012-02-26 03:56:47 PM  
You think the trash compactor essay is excessive, you haven't seen nothing until you read the Endor Holocaust.

Pages and pages of detailed scientific and mathematical information on the physics behind detonating something on the scale of the new Death Star in near Endor orbit.

The good news is it would likely wipe out all life on the forest moon, including the Ewoks.
 
2012-02-26 04:04:31 PM  

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T:
5) Stormtroopers are a dime a dozen....they're clones, so who cares?.


stormtroopers ain't clones. cept for a few old republic-era veterans still kicking around.

still, its not like the empire is short of manpower.
 
2012-02-26 04:05:11 PM  

Jamdug!: Fark_Guy_Rob: Man On A Mission: Answer One: The compacted trash blocks were jettisoned than then used as target practice for Death Star gunners, who needed as much practice as they could get.

Answer Two: IT'S JUST A FARKING MOVIE!!

I know, I know, 'It's just a movie'....or 'it's just a book'...or 'it's just a story'.

I get that. But is it really that hard to create a fictional world that is internally consistent with itself?

You can do it, but writers have deadlines to deal with and they'd rather spend their time on the main plot than the minutiae.


Exactly. And besides, those writers must have done a good job----the fact that we are STILL arguing the minutiae of their movie 30+ YEARS after it came out is proof enough of that. Perhaps if everyone involved in ANH had realized exactly how much of an impact this was going to have on society, they might have smoothed out the details.

Take the good with the bad----sure, there are things to debated about the series, but it's hard to argue that those things ruined SW, when the series is so immensely popular, and has had such staying power.
 
2012-02-26 04:07:06 PM  
The real question is, how did Peter and Brian get the couch through that narrow door?
 
2012-02-26 04:35:25 PM  
Kenner redesigned the trash compactor with a single wall moving wall. Happy?
www.figurerealm.com
/Kenner Death Star was awesome
 
2012-02-26 04:40:10 PM  

Ned Stark: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T:
5) Stormtroopers are a dime a dozen....they're clones, so who cares?.

stormtroopers ain't clones. cept for a few old republic-era veterans still kicking around.

still, its not like the empire is short of manpower.


A scan of Wookiepedia states that, "By the time the Galactic Civil War began in earnest, Jango Fett's clones were heavily supplanted by clones based on a variety of templates around 9 BBY." And "By 0 BBY, roughly one-third of the stormtroopers were clones based on the Fett template..."

BBY is shorthand for "Before the Battle of Yavin." 0 BBY would be the year of the battle. Since we're discussing the trash compactor in the first Death Star, which was destroyed in the Battle of Yavin, I'd say the fact that 1/3rd of the troopers were Fett clones (with the remaining 2/3'rds being other clones and recruits) means they weren't exactly few and far between.
 
2012-02-26 04:44:40 PM  
You know, this article makes me think of my older brother. When we were kids, he pointed out that cartoons are "so fake... you can't really do that"

Fast forward to last weekend when he was complaining about the things that were impossible in the last Batman movie.

If people wanted to see reality, then documentaries would be making a hundred million dollars on opening weekend.

Bonus points: he loved the 'nuking the fridge' scene in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
 
2012-02-26 04:54:11 PM  
Given the trouble that we have with space debris here on our backwards not-even-out-of-our-solar-system-yet Earth, I would imagine that societies with developed space travel would have recognized the problem that shooting trash into space can present.

If this is true, I would suspect that in the Star Wars universe the Empire has incredibly sophisticated ways to manage disposal of it's trash.

I would agree that the trash compactor in A New Hope is not "realistic" for the setting, but I would also argue that some form of trash compacting or trash management exists.

As for the Star Destroyer that ejects trash in Empire:

1. All of the trash ejected is large, suggesting that the trash from the ship is bundled somehow, supporting the idea of some kind of trash management.

2. There may be a policy strictly limiting where trash can be disposed. I imagine that this policy would make it OK to eject in an uninhabited area (such as in Hoth system, where the SD does eject), but not OK to eject in a shipping lane or in a system with populated planets.

3. I mean, shiat, you have to wonder what does the concept of a shipping lane in space even mean? It's farking space!

I propose that the shipping lanes in the Star Wars galaxies are actually zones that the governments devote resources to clean up, that there are millions of little trash collecting space ships making sure those shipping lanes don't have a bunch of damn space garbage, because hitting one of those while traveling ".5 past lightspeed" would probably ruin your day.

TL;DR
That was fun
 
2012-02-26 05:04:28 PM  
The article is more than ten years old so I guess the headline is correct about nerds arguing over it for decades.
 
2012-02-26 05:13:12 PM  

gregoropolis: The creature is actually foreshadowing the eventual death of Luke's hand.


Right, because he wrestled a one-eyed snake with that hand. And he fought the parasitic worm creature.
 
2012-02-26 05:21:32 PM  

Gergesa: I want it noted that this thread should have copious amounts of twileck slave girls.


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O, Hai!

 
2012-02-26 05:37:36 PM  

Man On A Mission: Answer Two: IT'S JUST A FARKING MOVIE!!


Translation: "Anyone who can dissect design elements in entertainment mediums (whether books, film, television, or games) on a level my brain couldn't possibly comprehend needs to stop making me look simple-minded and needs to get a life."
 
2012-02-26 05:52:44 PM  
The whole Keystone Cops chase through the station speaks rather poorly of the Empire anyways. Everybody seems to stay pretty handily ahead of the troopers, who even after cornering Luke and Leia, fail to just shoot through the crack in the door at their feet. Han even manages to stampede a squad! Didn't the Empire train it's people to coordinate using communications?


/Close the blast doors!
//Open the blast doors! Open the blast doors!
 
2012-02-26 05:56:40 PM  

Man On A Mission: Answer One: The compacted trash blocks were jettisoned than then used as target practice for Death Star gunners, who needed as much practice as they could get.

Answer Two: IT'S JUST A FARKING MOVIE!!


Dude, it's McSweeny's. It's been around in one form or another literally since the 1800s. Would the tone have been clearer if it were the Onion instead?

jjmartin: 3. I mean, shiat, you have to wonder what does the concept of a shipping lane in space even mean? It's farking space!


Hyperspace is apparently a set of mostly-fixed pathways with an invariant set of entry points, which you have to get to before you can jump. This is the reason why they fly around in high orbit so much instead of just jumping everywhere, and assumably why they're always sort of a set distance from a gravity well (where you can see the planet/moons/etc) and even way out in interplanetary space. Also why it's possible to hide in planetary rings and so on, whereas unrestricted warp drive would make setting probes and finding your ass pretty trivial for someone with the resources to build capital ships.
 
2012-02-26 05:57:52 PM  
I'm done with the Star Wars universe for a while. I've grown tired of all the nit picking, continuity errors, plot errors, retcons, etc.

Argue all you want. The correct answer is: At the time it was made, no one put any thought into any of it.
 
2012-02-26 06:09:45 PM  

PanicMan: I'm done with the Star Wars universe for a while. I've grown tired of all the nit picking, continuity errors, plot errors, retcons, etc.

Argue all you want. The correct answer is: At the time it was made, no one put any thought into any of it.


And it's still the #2 box office money-maker of all time (in adjusted $) - haters gonna hate.
 
2012-02-26 06:17:38 PM  
Some of the criticisms made in the article seem to be premised on the assumption that the two walls come all the way together, leaving no void space. I doubt that. In real trash compactors, The starting space is only compacted to about 20, maybe 35, % of its original volume. There's still plenty of space for the liquids, and plenty of space for the worm to live without getting killed.

Why compact on the DS in the first place? Maybe because it is moon-sized and basically has air traffic surrounding it, jettisoning can only be done rarely and with significant planning. That is, maybe they need to store their trash for a few weeks or something. Or, maybe *that* compactor wasn't actually trash, but scrap metal for later recyling.

Why do both walls move? That's a tough one. Maybe surrounding design constraints--for example, a bulkhead door that had to be in the middle.
 
2012-02-26 06:24:20 PM  
8. Personally, were it up to me, I would have designed special garbage ships instead of employing a crude, cumbersome, and inefficient (to say nothing of unsanitary) compactor-worm combo to deal with the trash.

Approves:
upload.wikimedia.org
/hot as the twins
 
2012-02-26 06:33:27 PM  

PanicMan: Argue all you want. The correct answer is: At the time it was made, no one put any thought into any of it.


So just like every other SciFi movie and television show ever made?

/just the intense thought process put into the cylons worshiped multiple Gods in BSG. Oh wait no - they just made it up on the spot and dealt with it later.
 
2012-02-26 06:42:20 PM  

PanicMan: I'm done with the Star Wars universe for a while. I've grown tired of all the nit picking, continuity errors, plot errors, retcons, etc.

Argue all you want. The correct answer is: At the time it was made, no one put any thought into any of it.


So it goes with every story in the history of ever.

My favorite aspect of Star Wars is that the fans (including the published novelists and graphic artists) have created a much cooler universe than its bloated dumbassed inventor.
 
2012-02-26 07:00:12 PM  

PanicMan: I'm done with the Star Wars universe for a while. I've grown tired of all the nit picking, continuity errors, plot errors, retcons, etc.


Since the admins seem determined to greenlight at least one Star Wars submission every single day, good luck avoiding it.

Not joking. One day last week there were three Star Wars greenlights in one day alone. It's bizarre.
 
2012-02-26 07:02:16 PM  
No one posted the obvious reason why you compact and store garbage on the Death Star. The death star is large enough to create its own gravity well. Anything you eject into space is going to crash back down onto the surface. You need to compact the trash and load it onto a garbage scow and truck it to a safe distance.

As for the 4-legged imperial walkers... the imperials are not at all interested in efficiency. They're interested in intimidation. THAT is the reason for the somewhat less than ideal infantry support units.

Charles.
 
2012-02-26 07:03:05 PM  
Meh. Given the technology, they could have just vaporized the trash into a plasma and either vented it or used it for some other purpose.
 
2012-02-26 07:03:19 PM  

Samwise Gamgee: PanicMan: I'm done with the Star Wars universe for a while. I've grown tired of all the nit picking, continuity errors, plot errors, retcons, etc.

Since the admins seem determined to greenlight at least one Star Wars submission every single day, good luck avoiding it.

Not joking. One day last week there were three Star Wars greenlights in one day alone. It's bizarre.


You can thank the 3D rerelease of The Phantom Menace for the number of Star Wars stories in the media in the last month.
 
2012-02-26 07:16:02 PM  
Overanalyzing things is fun. I don't understand why some people don't get that.

So, by making a conservative estimate of the Death Star's mass (assuming it's mostly air, which is unlikely), the escape velocity at its surface is 19m/s. The bare minimum cost for shooting a kilogram of trash away from the Death Star is about 180kj, or the energy of a car doing highway speeds. That's obviously chump change to something that can dump enough energy into a planet to cause the planet to explode, but that's an expensive way to ditch your garbage. It seems far more likely that the Death Star has fairly extensive recycling centers. The trash compactor we saw was likely part of a density column (and presumably, was not directly connected to the detention level) used to speed sorting of recyclables. The parasite was just that- a parasite.
 
2012-02-26 07:17:50 PM  

ChopperCharles: No one posted the obvious reason why you compact and store garbage on the Death Star.


I would have beat you to it, but I stopped to do math!
 
2012-02-26 07:32:40 PM  

EvilEgg: You have compactors because if the D.S. is just hanging about you would quickly have a fog of trash mucking up your windows and such if you just ejected it all the time while just sitting there. So they store it up to eject just before leaving.


This.

Modern ships do this in port as well (well they eject in transit at sea, but same idea)
 
2012-02-26 07:46:19 PM  

EvilEgg: 8) There may very well have been garbage scows, but it is best if you can live without on a warship.


A..GARBAGE SCOW! *fisticuffs*

/whoops, wrong franchise
 
2012-02-26 07:51:44 PM  

frak21: One wonders why the Imperials weren't waiting at the maintenance hatch when they escaped.

It's not like they couldn't find out where that shaft went that the prisoner obviously escaped into. They were trapped in there for a good 5 to 10 minutes at least.


Because the guards were too busy playing rock/paper/scissors to determine which one of them was going to tell Vader that Leah had escaped and then get Force-snuffed.
 
2012-02-26 08:02:14 PM  

GoodHomer: Because the guards were too busy playing rock/paper/scissors to determine which one of them was going to tell Vader that Leah had escaped and then get Force-snuffed.


Who?
 
2012-02-26 08:05:20 PM  
Why do they always blame the contractors?
 
2012-02-26 09:09:54 PM  

DarwiOdrade: PanicMan: I'm done with the Star Wars universe for a while. I've grown tired of all the nit picking, continuity errors, plot errors, retcons, etc.

Argue all you want. The correct answer is: At the time it was made, no one put any thought into any of it.

And it's still the #2 box office money-maker of all time (in adjusted $) - haters gonna hate.


No hate, just no interest. And I'm a huge scifi fan.
 
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