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2012-02-26 11:46:05 AM  

cookiefleck: theknuckler_33: Walk into a Wal-Mart at any time of the day or night and you will hear a cacophony of screams coming from children scattered around the store. Like sirens they blare unhindered by the apparently deaf parents.

Since this if Fark, I am sure I will be the only one to point out that this is complete bullshiat. I'm not saying it never happens, but this guy is making it seem like it always happens and that is nonsense.

Please spend an afternoon at a Walmart (usually around the checkout lines). Report your findings. Just because you have a high annoyance threshold, doesn't mean it doesn't bother anyone else.


It really depends on where the WalMart is. When I lived in AZ and CO, the WalMarts did tend to have a decently high population of running screamers, especially on Sundays. The WalMarts out here in NH and MA on the other hand, are almost completely devoid of loud children. Sure, there are still kids in the stores out here, but they tend to be much better behaved. Draw your own conclusions from that.
 
2012-02-26 11:47:42 AM  

zabadu: If they say "shh" or hand it a toy or in any way try to stop it


I laughed twice.
 
2012-02-26 11:48:40 AM  

Evenbiggerknickers: FTA: If I am having a meal with friends and I have to shout over howling children or dodge projectiles lobbed at my head ...

Your friends sound like a bunch of jerks.


Sometimes the dumbest things make me laugh.

/"Disclaimer"? That's like, small words at the end, right?
 
2012-02-26 11:49:51 AM  

zabadu: T.M.S.: "When did such total lack of social consideration become our sentence? "

It's not. You just took a rare problem and chose to whine about it as if it were the norm.

"My father informs me I threw a temper tantrum once in public only once. "

Your father was lying.

Uh, no. I only threw one tantrum. It was my last as well.


I don't believe that.

Children throw tantrums. And the is absolutely nothing you can do about it.

The only thing that matters is what the parent does when the meltdown commences.

The idea that a parent could "cure" a toddler forever with one single event is impossible.
 
2012-02-26 11:50:14 AM  
I should teach classes in "the Look", as it seems to be a disappearing art form.

My particular brand consists of raising my eyebrows, while simultaneously narrowing the eyes, coupled with a low muttered "keep going. I DARE you."

Never had an issue, since the kiddo has declined to ever find out what comes next if he behaves as though he's been raised by wolves while in public.
 
2012-02-26 11:50:45 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: Kids are bad for business. Period.

/See what I did there?


i.imgur.com
 
2012-02-26 11:51:42 AM  

Teufelaffe: cookiefleck: Please spend an afternoon at a Walmart (usually around the checkout lines). Report your findings. Just because you have a high annoyance threshold, doesn't mean it doesn't bother anyone else.

It really depends on where the WalMart is. When I lived in AZ and CO, the WalMarts did tend to have a decently high population of running screamers, especially on Sundays. The WalMarts out here in NH and MA on the other hand, are almost completely devoid of loud children. Sure, there are still kids in the stores out here, but they tend to be much better behaved. Draw your own conclusions from that.


I was wondering about that. But more from a 'center city' vs. suburbs perspective rather than different areas of the country. I suppose it makes sense that you might find more conscientious parents in the suburbs than in the heart of an urban area. But anyway, I rarely have experiences with unruly children out in public.
 
2012-02-26 11:51:53 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Apparently, I have a psycho-stare. I seem to have the ability to make people really uncomfortable just by giving them a hard look, bulging my eyes out, and not saying a word. It has proven effective against annoying kids and their parents, even teenagers get freaked out. It's not 100%, but it is pretty awesome when it works. My gf HATES it, "Stop looking at me like that!"


You're the stare master.
 
2012-02-26 11:52:02 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Apparently, I have a psycho-stare. I seem to have the ability to make people really uncomfortable just by giving them a hard look, bulging my eyes out, and not saying a word. It has proven effective against annoying kids and their parents, even teenagers get freaked out. It's not 100%, but it is pretty awesome when it works. My gf HATES it, "Stop looking at me like that!"


Ha! Just saw this one. Awesome. You get the afternoon session.
 
2012-02-26 11:52:33 AM  
I took my brother and a couple of his friends to a fancy steakhouse in Atlanta for his 21st. We made a big thing of it, got suited up, and planned to drop some cash on a nice dinner. The table next to us was a big group, maybe 15 people, and 3 kids. Everybody was in tshirts and jeans (what happened to dressing up for a nice dinner? Anyone still do that, or is it just me?)The kids each had their own Nextel, which they used on speaker and at full volume to talk to each other across the table.

BEEEP BEEEP "HEY BILLY, WHAT YOU DOING?" STATIC

BEEEP BEEEP "NOTHING" STATIC "WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE?"

BEEEP BEEEP
.... and on and on

The parents were obviously trying to avoid eye contact with the other diners, and after enough people biatched to the staff to get them to intervene, the parents acted offended that the other customers would dare interfere with their evening.

fark you. It's a once a year treat or less for me to go out to a niceish dinner. If I want screaming children, I'll go to Applebees, not a $100 a person restaurant. That makes people like me narcissistic? Show me the parent of a young child, and I'll show you someone who doesn't care about others. Socialize your trophy at a kid friendly establishment, and when they've learned to respect others (if they can learn that from you), then take them to experience fine dining. Besides, if you can't afford a babysitter, you probably shouldn't spend the $$$ to eat out at a nice restaurant.

/end angry rant
//think this hits a nerve with me?
 
2012-02-26 11:53:20 AM  

Krieghund: What you describe could also be Tourette syndrome (new window). The actual thing, not what you see on TV where someone drops a naughty word every time there's a break in the dialogue.


Well, I think we can all agree that if it is Tourettes, it still makes us uncomfortable and he should not be out in public. We should never have to be exposed to any behavior that makes us uncomfortable. Don't even get me started on people that have the unmitagted gall to bring their Down's kids out in public. What they hell are they thinking?
 
2012-02-26 11:55:55 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: As a parent, I'm okay with this.


Ditto.

/9 days old today
 
2012-02-26 11:57:26 AM  

Teufelaffe: cookiefleck: theknuckler_33: Walk into a Wal-Mart at any time of the day or night and you will hear a cacophony of screams coming from children scattered around the store. Like sirens they blare unhindered by the apparently deaf parents.

Since this if Fark, I am sure I will be the only one to point out that this is complete bullshiat. I'm not saying it never happens, but this guy is making it seem like it always happens and that is nonsense.

Please spend an afternoon at a Walmart (usually around the checkout lines). Report your findings. Just because you have a high annoyance threshold, doesn't mean it doesn't bother anyone else.

It really depends on where the WalMart is. When I lived in AZ and CO, the WalMarts did tend to have a decently high population of running screamers, especially on Sundays. The WalMarts out here in NH and MA on the other hand, are almost completely devoid of loud children. Sure, there are still kids in the stores out here, but they tend to be much better behaved. Draw your own conclusions from that.


Where is this magical Walmart in New Hampshire? Is it far north of the Mass border?
 
2012-02-26 11:57:58 AM  
As a parent, I kind of wish more restaurants would use a similar disclaimer and then actually enforce it. It won't work if it isn't enforced.

We go out to eat with our three, soon to be four children, about once a week and they do behave themselves most of the time. We don't go to fancy places, with that many that would be rather expensive. Kids need to be taught how to eat in public settings, so even if we'd rather stay home, it is a necessary social skill.

Simple tips for an enjoyable meal at a restaurant
1. Pick an appropriate venue.
2. Pack child appropriate toys.
3. Don't go there during peak hours when there is a long wait to be seated.
4. If your kids are below the age of five, bring snacks like crackers to tide them over.
5. Warn them that if they act up they won't be allowed to stay with everyone else at the table and will have to sit in the car with mommy or daddy, and then actually enforce it.
6. Walk them through basic table manners, but don't make a scene if they don't get it quite right the first dozen times.

In other words, use some common sense and teach some common decency. I have one with autism who used to have public meltdowns often enough, nothing is so humiliating. If we can get him civilized to the point where those don't happen any more, parents of normal children have no farking excuses.

/i really resent the parents of normal children who fail to put effort into raising them.
//happy farking.
 
2012-02-26 12:01:28 PM  

T.M.S.: Children throw tantrums. And the is absolutely nothing you can do about it.

The only thing that matters is what the parent does when the meltdown commences.

The idea that a parent could "cure" a toddler forever with one single event is impossible.


True. I remember once on plane a lady had a kid that was having a meltdown and she was doing nothing to try and settle the kid down. Finally a lady tells her to do something and not just sit there. The lady said her husband was up in First Class and he left her back in coach to deal with the kid on her own. We kind of felt bad for her after that.
 
2012-02-26 12:02:15 PM  

Aar1012: Teufelaffe: cookiefleck: theknuckler_33: Walk into a Wal-Mart at any time of the day or night and you will hear a cacophony of screams coming from children scattered around the store. Like sirens they blare unhindered by the apparently deaf parents.

Since this if Fark, I am sure I will be the only one to point out that this is complete bullshiat. I'm not saying it never happens, but this guy is making it seem like it always happens and that is nonsense.

Please spend an afternoon at a Walmart (usually around the checkout lines). Report your findings. Just because you have a high annoyance threshold, doesn't mean it doesn't bother anyone else.

It really depends on where the WalMart is. When I lived in AZ and CO, the WalMarts did tend to have a decently high population of running screamers, especially on Sundays. The WalMarts out here in NH and MA on the other hand, are almost completely devoid of loud children. Sure, there are still kids in the stores out here, but they tend to be much better behaved. Draw your own conclusions from that.

Where is this magical Walmart in New Hampshire? Is it far north of the Mass border?


Hinsdale, just barely east of Brattleboro, VT and maybe 5 miles from the border of Mass.
 
2012-02-26 12:02:31 PM  

Krieghund: My wife and I try to respect my fellow diners when we eat out with my 3 year old. We try to avoid sitting by other people. We shush him if he gets too loud. We don't let him throw things. We don't let him leave our table. If he throws a fit we haul him outside.

But there are people that are bothered by children's mere existence. When kids are 3, they can't behave perfectly all the time. If you can't accept that the kid in the next booth might forget to use his inside voice for a second or crawl under his parent's legs, then you're the one that shouldn't be at the restaurant.


I've bolded the important parts. See, what you are doing is fine. You're acting like a parent. If your kid acts up you do something about it. But I've been out to eat and watched children running up and down the aisle of the restaurant. Watched them yelling and crying while the parents ignore it all. Watched them trash the table and area by throwing food on the floor and sometimes at other people.

No it doesn't happen every time I go out. To be fair it doesn't happen often at all. But it DOES happen. And when I'm subjected to some elses kid who is that out of control while they do nothing about it then I'm not the one who doesn't need to be at the restaurant.
 
2012-02-26 12:04:49 PM  

overzealous: It's a once a year treat or less for me to go out to a niceish dinner. If I want screaming children, I'll go to Applebees, not a $100 a person restaurant. That makes people like me narcissistic? Show me the parent of a young child, and I'll show you someone who doesn't care about others. Socialize your trophy at a kid friendly establishment, and when they've learned to respect others (if they can learn that from you), then take them to experience fine dining. Besides, if you can't afford a babysitter, you probably shouldn't spend the $$$ to eat out at a nice restaurant.


That doesn't make you narcissistic, but the bolded line makes you an insufferable douchebag.
 
2012-02-26 12:05:34 PM  
Funny thing is, everyone here is right. The only difference between an obnoxious brat and a great kid is whether the parent takes the job seriously.

/Kids WANT to know where the boundaries are
//Parents are responsible for teaching them
///Knowing boundaries clears kids' mental space for actual growth and learning
 
2012-02-26 12:06:37 PM  

dutchmang: Funny thing is, everyone here is right. The only difference between an obnoxious brat and a great kid is whether the parent takes the job seriously.

/Kids WANT to know where the boundaries are
//Parents are responsible for teaching them
///Knowing boundaries clears kids' mental space for actual growth and learning


WTF...why the hell are you making sense on Fark? Do you not understand what this site is for? ;)
 
2012-02-26 12:10:03 PM  

Teufelaffe: overzealous:
That doesn't make you narcissistic, but the bolded line makes you an insufferable douchebag.


And like the parents of screaming kids, I'm okay with that.
 
2012-02-26 12:11:32 PM  
ncfp.files.wordpress.com

I demand the Cone of Silence!!

My god, there are adults out there these days who have no idea what this is. How sad.
 
2012-02-26 12:11:55 PM  
Awesome!

Now they just need to do this at the grocery store. When I see mom, dad, and 4 kids together at the store. With mom and dad off in space while their kids fill run back and forth in front of my cart, I want to go postal. For the love of god, one of you stay home with the kids while the other goes shopping. If you have to take your kids to the store, it isn't a freaking Chucky Cheese there for your kids entertainment. It's a place of business. Treat it accordingly and control your brood.

We were at H&R block the other day and this crap played out. Mom+Dad+three brats come in, and the parents walk in the door and just set them loose. The immediately start running all over the place. Playing with the coffee and water machines, messing with people who worked there's desks, playing tag. There parents didn't pay them one ounce of attention once they walked in. It's asinine that parents today think that daycare is free at any place of business now days. Once they are in a place where they are a customer their responsibility to control their kids in done.

When I was a kid, one we wouldn't have ever been in a place like H&R block, but if mom or dad had to take us with them to the store we stayed behind the cart, out of people's way, and kept our mouths shut or else.
 
2012-02-26 12:13:09 PM  

Teufelaffe: dutchmang: Funny thing is, everyone here is right. The only difference between an obnoxious brat and a great kid is whether the parent takes the job seriously.

/Kids WANT to know where the boundaries are
//Parents are responsible for teaching them
///Knowing boundaries clears kids' mental space for actual growth and learning

WTF...why the hell are you making sense on Fark? Do you not understand what this site is for? ;)


Sorry, lost my head. Won't happen again. ;->
 
2012-02-26 12:13:27 PM  

T.M.S.: zabadu: T.M.S.: "When did such total lack of social consideration become our sentence? "

It's not. You just took a rare problem and chose to whine about it as if it were the norm.

"My father informs me I threw a temper tantrum once in public only once. "

Your father was lying.

Uh, no. I only threw one tantrum. It was my last as well.

I don't believe that.

Children throw tantrums. And the is absolutely nothing you can do about it.

The only thing that matters is what the parent does when the meltdown commences.

The idea that a parent could "cure" a toddler forever with one single event is impossible.


Spoken like someone who has never corrected a child.

Believe me, it can be done.
 
2012-02-26 12:16:13 PM  

zabadu: Spoken like someone who has never corrected a child.

Believe me, it can be done.


Depends on the temperment of the child. It can be done, but not for every child.
 
2012-02-26 12:16:45 PM  
I avoid restaurants that have kids menus.
 
2012-02-26 12:16:59 PM  
www.mochadad.com

As a waiter of many restaurants around the world in my lifetime, I applaud the actions of this restaurant. Your offspring are yours, not mine. Educate them on basic restaurant etiquette at home with simple tasks like raising your hand to speak or ask for things on the other side of the table. Apply simple discipline in the form of NO DESSERT if they refuse to behave at the table. After a few months of this home training, your offspring will be ready for public excursions.

Unwilling to do this for your children? Expect to expelled without warning as you are disturbing our peace and quiet.
 
2012-02-26 12:20:06 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: phamwaa: Coming on a Bicycle: litespeed74: Coming on a Bicycle: This is a Fark
- circumcision
- breastfeeding
* unruly children
- teacher sex
- speed camera
- TSA
- atheism
- tipping
thread. Please post accordingly.

You forgot cyclists hogging the road threads.

I stand corrected. Or: appended.

And,

- beer snob
- smokers
- passing-lane cruisers
- etc.

Keep 'm coming. I've got a paper due on Monday.


guns
 
2012-02-26 12:25:54 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: phamwaa: Coming on a Bicycle: litespeed74: Coming on a Bicycle: This is a Fark
- circumcision
- breastfeeding
* unruly children
- teacher sex
- speed camera
- TSA
- atheism
- tipping
thread. Please post accordingly.

You forgot cyclists hogging the road threads.

I stand corrected. Or: appended.

And,

- beer snob
- smokers
- passing-lane cruisers
- etc.

Keep 'm coming. I've got a paper due on Monday.


car thread..
 
2012-02-26 12:27:11 PM  
Mostly only show up on the sports page, but AL vs NL rules threads are pretty entertaining too. Was one just yesterday I think..
 
2012-02-26 12:28:15 PM  
If, at some point, you don't get past the vain, pissy, overwrought "BUT IT CAME OUT OF MY VA GI NA!" 'tude about your kids, people will start throwing you, and them, into the street where the abrasively ridiculous belong. Get over it. Discipline them. Or keep them at home. It's not our job. Honest. Perhaps you should give your "Sperm Donor a call. Men are good with stuff like that. They really aren't just ATMs and fodder for b*tchy bistro chatter. Bistro.
 
2012-02-26 12:31:06 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: litespeed74: Coming on a Bicycle: This is a Fark
- circumcision
- breastfeeding
* unruly children
- teacher sex
- speed camera
- TSA
- atheism
- tipping
thread. Please post accordingly.

You forgot cyclists hogging the road threads.

I stand corrected. Or: appended.


also homosexual outrage, for and against
 
2012-02-26 12:33:17 PM  
I always find it amazing when people consider screaming kids in public places "normal". It is like these people never traveled outside the USA. The public tantrum doesn't happen as often in Europe (unless they are American tourists), Asia or Africa. I was especially impressed while living in West Africa that I rarely heard a kid scream unless they were sick. A local told me that because of the close living quarters, kids are taught from birth not to disrupt the household nor to make a scene in public. The parents will gently cover the child's mouth until the child gets it or pinch their nose (they can't breathe and scream at the same time). Perhaps our society is too used to living in single family homes with lots of space between houses where no one can hear nor see the tantrums that we've gotten lazy once we get out in public.
 
2012-02-26 12:34:32 PM  
I was at lunch with co-workers and there was a little hellion running around screaming; his parents did nothing. The female co-worker seated next to me, a very reserved, very religious (in a good way) person, quietly moved her foot and the little snot tripped on it, feel and started crying. His mom retrieved him and he sobbed quietly as she carried him away.

Everybody smiled.

/except the kid and his parents -- fark them
 
2012-02-26 12:35:00 PM  

bunner: If, at some point, you don't get past the vain, pissy, overwrought "BUT IT CAME OUT OF MY VA GI NA!" 'tude about your kids, people will start throwing you, and them, into the street where the abrasively ridiculous belong. Get over it. Discipline them. Or keep them at home. It's not our job. Honest. Perhaps you should give your "Sperm Donor a call. Men are good with stuff like that. They really aren't just ATMs and fodder for b*tchy bistro chatter. Bistro.


Keep up the good work! You're not in the top 5 of asinine farkers, yet, but you're moving up.
 
2012-02-26 12:41:51 PM  

wildcardjack: I have no experience raising children but some of the ones I come across in thrift stores I could very well drop kick.


Really? It's laundromats for me
 
2012-02-26 12:42:00 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: As a parent, I'm okay with this.


As a restaurant worker, i applaud you for this.
 
2012-02-26 12:45:15 PM  
I wonder about countries where child-beating is legal and encouraged... are the rugrats there quiet as mice? Seems like kids are noisy everywhere.
 
2012-02-26 12:46:13 PM  

dforkus: Coming on a Bicycle: phamwaa: Coming on a Bicycle: litespeed74: Coming on a Bicycle: This is a Fark
- circumcision
- breastfeeding
* unruly children
- teacher sex
- speed camera
- TSA
- atheism
- tipping
thread. Please post accordingly.

You forgot cyclists hogging the road threads.

I stand corrected. Or: appended.

And,

- beer snob
- smokers
- passing-lane cruisers
- etc.

Keep 'm coming. I've got a paper due on Monday.

car thread..


Real Estate
Rent Vs Own
Beer
Rep Vs Dem
 
2012-02-26 12:47:28 PM  

boobsrgood: God Is My Co-Pirate: As a parent, I'm okay with this.

Ditto.

/9 days old today


Do your parents know you're on Fark?
 
2012-02-26 12:48:06 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: As a parent, I'm okay with this.


I found that one of the best things that happened after I became a parent (besides the kid himself, of course) is that I'm now allowed to criticize other parents. More than once, before I had a child, if I asked someone to control their brood I would get the response: "Do you have kids?!?! No? Then you have no idea what it's like!!"

Now, I can respond to them with "Why yes, he's the toddler sitting quietly over there. So, what are you going to do about your little angels?"
 
2012-02-26 12:48:26 PM  

wambu: I was at lunch with co-workers and there was a little hellion running around screaming; his parents did nothing. The female co-worker seated next to me, a very reserved, very religious (in a good way) person, quietly moved her foot and the little snot tripped on it, feel and started crying. His mom retrieved him and he sobbed quietly as she carried him away.

Everybody smiled.

/except the kid and his parents -- fark them


I love your friend.
 
2012-02-26 12:50:06 PM  
When I was a kid and we went shopping with my parents, all the kids knew to behave. If one started acting like an asshole, all the kids went to the car. The sibling who was starting shiat would be walked out by the ear. At the car, the troublemaker got a spanking and we all had to wait in the back seat until they were done shopping. Made it so we policed ourselves, particularly on hot days.
 
2012-02-26 12:50:33 PM  
I can't wait to go to the supermarket later this afternoon. Good times await.
 
2012-02-26 12:54:17 PM  

John Buck 41: I can't wait to go to the supermarket later this afternoon. Good times await.


Lol "MAMAAAAA!"
 
2012-02-26 12:54:28 PM  
your children are your business
I beg of you dear mom and dad
do what it takes to enforce this
everyone will be so glad!

not one wants to pick the snot
your kids wipe on our shirts
no one wants to be the lot
to say their shrieking hurts

just because you two had sex
does not mean you can ignore
the rest of us who break our necks
stepping over them at stores

for the love of god control that creature
'fore it winds up as a feature
on the news or internet
caught doing something you'll regret
 
2012-02-26 01:01:01 PM  
Years ago my then 5 year old son decided he wanted some treat in the grocery store. When I told him no, he plopped down in the middle of the isle and began crying at the top of his little lungs.
So I plopped down right next to him and began crying at the top of my lungs... About 4-5 seconds was all it took for him to quit crying with a shocked look on his face. After another 2-3 seconds he was begging me to stop. "Dad... people are looking!"

Never happened again.
(Couple times he started to, but as soon I began to sit... he back-peddled as fast as possible)

\ Parenting... how works?
 
2012-02-26 01:02:57 PM  
I was sitting outside at Starbucks, trying to read my book, when this heffalump of a woman sat down with her 2 kids a couple of tables over. Well, she sat down--the kids were left to run around the tables, screeching, and knocking shiat over. I asked her to keep her kids quiet because I was trying to read and she said they were playing, it's what kids do. If I didn't like it, I could leave. Like it was MY fault that I was annoyed her her precious snowflakes.

So, I went inside, got a cup of coffee, and sat down with her. "I'm sorry if I came off as biatchy." I pushed the coffee closer to her. "You seem like a really nice lady." And I touched her hand. "Let's start over. I'd love to get to know you better."

Her voice cracked as she screamed for her kids to meet her at the car.
 
2012-02-26 01:03:34 PM  

John Buck 41: wambu: I was at lunch with co-workers and there was a little hellion running around screaming; his parents did nothing. The female co-worker seated next to me, a very reserved, very religious (in a good way) person, quietly moved her foot and the little snot tripped on it, feel and started crying. His mom retrieved him and he sobbed quietly as she carried him away.

Everybody smiled.

/except the kid and his parents -- fark them

I love your friend.


We paid for her lunch that day.
 
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