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(KSL Salt Lake City)   Dumb: 16 year old kid takes mom's car to the bank, threatens the clerk with a weapon and demands money. Dumber: Through the drive thru. Dumbest: It works. Bonus: Twice   (ksl.com) divider line 34
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2012-02-25 09:19:24 PM
Just curious, is the drive-thru glass bullet-proof?

Not that there isn't something surreal about a holdup happening through the drive-thru.
 
2012-02-25 09:28:18 PM

Lord Jubjub: Just curious, is the drive-thru glass bullet-proof?

Not that there isn't something surreal about a holdup happening through the drive-thru.


Maybe he threatened to place a bullet in the tube and press the send button really fast.
 
2012-02-25 09:32:24 PM
Banks have ALL their money insured. ALL of it. You can go in there with a flame thrower, there manager can put it in a big pile, and you can light that stuff up like the Joker in Dark Knight. The next day, FDIC trucks show up with brand new bills. Ta-da!

So the only thing that could possibly be lost during a robbery is peacefulness and reputation. So when robbers show up, the tellers are trained to give them all the cash they have. The cops can always catch the guy later.
 
2012-02-25 09:38:30 PM
fta: The mother was at work during the spree, and was not aware of her son's activities.

Wow, imagine getting that call. There are some Fark articles that really reinforce my belief in never reproducing. This has definitely been one of those.
 
2012-02-25 09:57:47 PM

doglover: Banks have ALL their money insured. ALL of it. You can go in there with a flame thrower, there manager can put it in a big pile, and you can light that stuff up like the Joker in Dark Knight. The next day, FDIC trucks show up with brand new bills. Ta-da!

So the only thing that could possibly be lost during a robbery is peacefulness and reputation. So when robbers show up, the tellers are trained to give them all the cash they have. The cops can always catch the guy later.


This. A bank will lose zero money from a robbery, but if the douche kid had been pissed off at being refused and fired off a bullet which ricocheted off the bulletproof window and hit some schmuck in the parking lot, they'd be out hundreds of thousands in medical bills and lawyer fees.
 
2012-02-25 10:11:40 PM
FTA: The teen is in juvenile detention, facing charges of armed robbery.

Yeah, it worked great Subby.
 
2012-02-25 10:52:13 PM
At least this won't be a case of "Walmart/Home Depot fired an employee for catching a thief and thereby disregarding his training".
 
2012-02-25 11:06:39 PM
I'm glad I don't have money in that bank.
 
2012-02-25 11:23:11 PM
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2012-02-25 11:57:38 PM

Ed Finnerty: Lord Jubjub: Just curious, is the drive-thru glass bullet-proof?

Not that there isn't something surreal about a holdup happening through the drive-thru.

Maybe he threatened to place a bullet in the tube and press the send button really fast.


Dammit, comment section needs to go to the front page so I can +1 this.
 
2012-02-26 03:47:11 AM
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2012-02-26 04:05:56 AM
"He sent a note through the drive-thru canister telling the teller to send him money," said Orem Police Sgt. Craig Martinez. "He inferred on the note that he had a weapon."

Who gave him that idea?
 
2012-02-26 04:19:04 AM
When are they going to start holding the parents responsible for kids doing this sort of thing?

Oh, right. Never.
 
2012-02-26 04:33:27 AM

Chameleon: doglover: Banks have ALL their money insured. ALL of it. You can go in there with a flame thrower, there manager can put it in a big pile, and you can light that stuff up like the Joker in Dark Knight. The next day, FDIC trucks show up with brand new bills. Ta-da!

So the only thing that could possibly be lost during a robbery is peacefulness and reputation. So when robbers show up, the tellers are trained to give them all the cash they have. The cops can always catch the guy later.

This. A bank will lose zero money from a robbery, but if the douche kid had been pissed off at being refused and fired off a bullet which ricocheted off the bulletproof window and hit some schmuck in the parking lot, they'd be out hundreds of thousands in medical bills and lawyer fees.


On the flip side, it probably increases the number of incidents by making robberies seem easy. If you encourage armed crack heads to show up at your doorstep then there's no guarantee they wont loose off a round or injure someone anyway. Its an unpredictable situation.

Still, that's not the banks problem. Its all insured.
 
2012-02-26 05:43:04 AM
"He inferred on the note that he had a weapon having a weapon was a central tenant of his own bear-knuckle brand of post-nucular Rastafarianism."

There, that's more gooder.
 
2012-02-26 05:45:37 AM

way south: On the flip side, it probably increases the number of incidents by making robberies seem easy.


Easy? When was thew last time ANYONE got away with it?

I can think of about 5 times it's worked in the past 30 years, maybe less.

What I can remember is failures like the giant cluster fark like when those two guys in body armor shot up that parking lot.
 
2012-02-26 07:14:13 AM

doglover


2012-02-25 09:32:24 PM
Banks have ALL their money insured. ALL of it. You can go in there with a flame thrower, there manager can put it in a big pile, and you can light that stuff up like the Joker in Dark Knight. The next day, FDIC trucks show up with brand new bills. Ta-da!

So the only thing that could possibly be lost during a robbery is peacefulness and reputation. So when robbers show up, the tellers are trained to give them all the cash they have. The cops can always catch the guy later.


A few years back a guy robbed a bank in town here with a can opener, I am guessing it must have been one of the old fashion type with the blade, with possibly a corkscrew attached. I know policy is policy but if the teller just said 'no' what was the guy going to do? He got the money and escaped, can't remember if he was ever caught.
 
2012-02-26 07:25:11 AM

doglover: way south: On the flip side, it probably increases the number of incidents by making robberies seem easy.

Easy? When was thew last time ANYONE got away with it?

I can think of about 5 times it's worked in the past 30 years, maybe less.

What I can remember is failures like the giant cluster fark like when those two guys in body armor shot up that parking lot.


Two different things tho, isn't it?
"Easy to commit a robbery" (which appears on page one of the newspaper) encourages people to try, even if its impossible to get away with said robbery. The results appear on page twelve, two weeks later, where the other crooks aren't paying attention.

Not that I disagree with the standing policy. We had a local robbery where the robber got the money, left, and the other customers didn't even know the bank was robbed. Getting the dangerous crook away from your customers quietly is a pretty keen move. Doing it cost free is just smart business.
...But when you're in the habit of giving away cash to any contestant, I have to suspect its going to increase the number of attempts.

North Hollywood was an aberration. The gunmen wanted to get more than the token sum in a cashiers register, so the plan became more and more elaborate until it was impossible to pull off. Its crazy people doing crazy things, and not something you'd want to set policy by.
 
2012-02-26 07:39:10 AM

Chameleon: doglover: Banks have ALL their money insured. ALL of it. You can go in there with a flame thrower, there manager can put it in a big pile, and you can light that stuff up like the Joker in Dark Knight. The next day, FDIC trucks show up with brand new bills. Ta-da!

So the only thing that could possibly be lost during a robbery is peacefulness and reputation. So when robbers show up, the tellers are trained to give them all the cash they have. The cops can always catch the guy later.

This. A bank will lose zero money from a robbery, but if the douche kid had been pissed off at being refused and fired off a bullet which ricocheted off the bulletproof window and hit some schmuck in the parking lot, they'd be out hundreds of thousands in medical bills and lawyer fees.


I'm pretty sure that isn't how bulletproof glass works...
 
2012-02-26 08:31:38 AM

Lord Jubjub: Just curious, is the drive-thru glass bullet-proof?

Not that there isn't something surreal about a holdup happening through the drive-thru.


Depending on the area, probably not. As was pointed out before, the money is insured, no sense in spending all the extra cash for bullet proof glass. Just give them the money.

/Worked as a drive thru teller in the summers in college
//Not bulletproof glass
///Trained to always give them the money, and unless it would harm someone, always follow their directions no matter how easy it would be to "foil" the robbery.
 
2012-02-26 08:55:27 AM
I'm a bank teller and we are trained to do only 2 things in a drive-thru robbery attempt: hit the alarm then hit the floor. There are so many cameras on each lane of the drive thru now idk why anyone would bother. Just by you pulling in we have the make, model, and color of your getaway vehicle and your plate #.

If a criminal wants free money, they have to come inside for that level of service.
 
2012-02-26 09:02:03 AM

Chameleon: doglover: Banks have ALL their money insured. ALL of it. You can go in there with a flame thrower, there manager can put it in a big pile, and you can light that stuff up like the Joker in Dark Knight. The next day, FDIC trucks show up with brand new bills. Ta-da!

So the only thing that could possibly be lost during a robbery is peacefulness and reputation. So when robbers show up, the tellers are trained to give them all the cash they have. The cops can always catch the guy later.

This. A bank will lose zero money from a robbery, but if the douche kid had been pissed off at being refused and fired off a bullet which ricocheted off the bulletproof window and hit some schmuck in the parking lot, they'd be out hundreds of thousands in medical bills and lawyer fees.


I always wondered if the banks got the money back "at cost". As in what it cost the FDIC to print it and deliver it, not the actually thousands of dollars that were stolen. The robbers rarely get more than tens of thousands of dollars, so it isn't like just dropping an extra 20k in circulation is going to noticeably up inflation. Although 20k times thousands of robberies might.
 
2012-02-26 09:39:28 AM
I consider myself a culturally enlightened individual who can see past the stereotypes of the past and embrace the idea of future brotherhood. But seriously, there's no way in hell this kid was white. It just... it just can't be a white kid.
 
2012-02-26 09:43:09 AM
Bank policy (at least with BoA) is to give people money regardless of the circumstances.

So, when I was in college, I found this out, because the BoA across the street from campus was "robbed" but a guy in his undies with no weapon. He just asked for cash, got it, and left.

That was my first experience with a BoA, and everything I've heard of them since just drives home my image of their incompetence.
 
2012-02-26 09:44:21 AM

johnsoninca: At least this won't be a case of "Walmart/Home Depot fired an employee for catching a thief and thereby disregarding his training".


When I worked in banking everyone had to go through the training. I had to and I never set foot in branches. Shortly after one of the branches had their annual training they got robbed. After the guy left one of the tellers, who had just graduated and ran track in college, chased the guy down and tackled him. She didn't get fired for it, but her manager wasn't happy.
 
2012-02-26 09:45:49 AM

Quantumbunny: Bank policy (at least with BoA) is to give people money regardless of the circumstances.

So, when I was in college, I found this out, because the BoA across the street from campus was "robbed" but a guy in his undies with no weapon. He just asked for cash, got it, and left.

That was my first experience with a BoA, and everything I've heard of them since just drives home my image of their incompetence.


Yup. Another branch I knew of got robbed by a guy with an obviously fake gun and the manager had to stand there gritting his teeth and give the guy cash.

Of course the customers were not bound by that rule, and the guy didn't get away.
 
2012-02-26 09:50:26 AM

ha-ha-guy: I always wondered if the banks got the money back "at cost". As in what it cost the FDIC to print it and deliver it, not the actually thousands of dollars that were stolen.


This is not how it works. First, the FDIC has money, it does not print money or have the legal authority to ask the Mint to do so. Second, it is like the Post Office, an independent corp set up by the gov't to provide stability for banks. Third, and most relevant here, the FDIC does NOT cover loss due to theft, fraud, robbery, etc. That is all private insurance, and obviously they aren't printing money and banks mileage may vary.

rollersnake: I'm a bank teller and we are trained to do only 2 things in a drive-thru robbery attempt: hit the alarm then hit the floor. There are so many cameras on each lane of the drive thru now idk why anyone would bother. Just by you pulling in we have the make, model, and color of your getaway vehicle and your plate #.

If a criminal wants free money, they have to come inside for that level of service.


Glad to hear some reality. This idea that banks should just automatically hand over money no matter what is ridiculous. I might as well phone in a threat and have the money delivered to me three blocks away, along with the bank manager's car and daughter.
 
2012-02-26 09:53:59 AM
Right down the street from me is a Wachovia/Wells Fargo that in the last 2-3 years has been robbed more times than I can count (seriously, like 10+times)...It is just an easy target I guess. Amazing that they are able to retain employees and branch customers. You would think a branch that can be taken so easily would have beefed up security, but nope...they have one armed guard who looks to be well into his 60's. Absolutely astounding.
 
2012-02-26 09:55:57 AM

Bacontastesgood: I might as well phone in a threat and have the money delivered to me three blocks away, along with the bank manager's car and daughter.


Unimpressed:

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2012-02-26 10:26:07 AM
ha-ha-guy:

I always wondered if the banks got the money back "at cost". As in what it cost the FDIC to print it and deliver it, not the actually thousands of dollars that were stolen. The robbers rarely get more than tens of thousands of dollars, so it isn't like just dropping an extra 20k in circulation is going to noticeably up inflation. Although 20k times thousands of robberies might.


And that would be a no. There's a few things about bank robberies that people have to understand. It typically isn't like The Town where everyone busts in blazing with guns and glory. Usually it's some degenerate individual who has someone waiting outside for them. The other thing people don't realize is how little money is actually kept at a branch. Our boxes had about $5k-8k a piece. You could be suspended for going over $10k and not selling it back to the vault. And it's not like you're going to get all the tellers involved. By that time the police would have shown up, and yes, you might not be able to get them to your home, but a bank? They haul ass. The standard procedure is to give them the money without hesitation, and somehow manage to press the silent-alarm. Not too difficult considering that I accidentally pressed the alarm once every financial quarter. The drive-thru is just stupid. I wouldn't even know what to do in that situation. Laugh? I would probably just tell him that the box got jammed because of all the doughstacks I was sending his way, and then I would take everyone in the lobby and bring them into our side offices.
 
2012-02-26 10:40:08 AM
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A Chicago bank robber sent a note demanding money thru the bank's drive-in pneumatic tube. The teller sent back $56,000, and the guy drove away. (new window)
 
2012-02-26 11:13:00 AM
Dumb: 16 year old kid takes mom's car to the bank, threatens the clerk with a weapon and demands money. Dumber: Through the drive thru. Dumbest: It works. Bonus: Twice
From the teller POV it's not dumb

A) It's not my farking money!
B) The little shiat may be serious about the weapon.
 
2012-02-26 11:44:33 AM
Also, banks take it as a loss when money isn't recovered or gets doused with dye pack. FDIC insured depositor money, not bank losses through robbery, negligence, or employee theft. So if the entire bank company (not just one branch) shuts down, depositors file with FDIC to get their deposits back. When a bank gets robbed, the bank company eats it.

Yes, we're trained to just hand over cash at the teller line, but not in the drive-thru. They get away with next to nothing and a dye pack or a lowjack. A branch of my bank got robbed Friday. Dude was busted 10 mins later. Nearly every bank robbery in my area (and it happens frequently) has been solved. Idk why they even try. The camera at my teller window can tell if you have blackheads, maybe even see into your soul.
 
2012-02-26 12:29:43 PM

Ed Finnerty: Lord Jubjub: Just curious, is the drive-thru glass bullet-proof?

Not that there isn't something surreal about a holdup happening through the drive-thru.

Maybe he threatened to place a bullet in the tube and press the send button really fast.


Either that or Utah has some dumb-as-hell bank tellers.
 
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