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2012-02-25 03:19:03 PM

9beers: Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: Yes but I still can't hear you. Do... do I need to play rap?

Rap would be cool but I'd need your expert opinion on which artists have truly mastered the genre.


SUMMER TIME AND THE WIND IS BLOWING OUTSIDE IN LOWER CHESLEY AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING IN THE CITY!
 
2012-02-25 03:22:32 PM
Sixteen Stone wasn't on the list, either...
 
2012-02-25 03:23:11 PM
No Sublime?
 
2012-02-25 03:25:00 PM
There's a lot of love for Live's "Throwing Copper" here. It's certainly not a bad album, it's just... vanilla; yet there's a lot of love for it. I've always thought it odd that my friend's favorite band is Live. Credit for originality, I guess, but it's like saying Sponge is your favorite band: not particularly unlikable, but not great by any means.


farkeruk: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x220] (Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen...

But Parklife gets in there?

/Parklife is horribly overrated




eh, Ladies and Gentlemen is over-rated. Lazer-Guided Melodies is where it's at.
 
2012-02-25 03:27:18 PM
Compare that list to the Top 70 of the 70's or Top 80 of the 80's and it really brings home how musically challenged the 90's were.
 
2012-02-25 03:27:21 PM
Not perfect, obviously, but pretty damn good list.
 
2012-02-25 03:30:26 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: Someone enlighten me, is this one of those "listen to the notes *not* being played* musical creations?



Ok Computer is just the best album ever made. You're just going to have to deal with it.

Ok Computer was so good that it even made Radiohead wonder what the hell they were going to do next. It made other bands wonder if there was any reason to try to make music anymore.
 
2012-02-25 03:30:47 PM

pacmanner: Replace Siamese Dream with Gish and now you're talking.


Eh, Gish is a fun album, but even Corgan will tell you there's isn't much lyrically there...just vague words and ideas behind the "metal-meets-shoegaze wall of sound" thing they were going for in their early years. Siamese Dream is where they nailed that aesthetic, even if the one downfall of that album is its also where Corgan was brutally honest in his lyrics, and became something of a poster boy for "whiny, cross-dragging rocker" (although some songs on that album like Geek USA I'm convinced were Gish-like in the sense of "random words put together that sound kinda cool but don't mean sh*t")

I never understood the love for Mellon Collie though....some decent tracks, sure, but was all over the goddamn place musically and has no flow to it.
 
2012-02-25 03:32:49 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: Every now and then I play OK Computer in an attempt to see what everyone else sees in this album, so far I've failed every time. 100% completely unremarkable. Which is fine, plenty of albums are meh-ok, but this one keeps making it onto Top 10 lists and I'm just not seeing it.

Someone enlighten me, is this one of those "listen to the notes *not* being played* musical creations?


8/10, as you already got several serious answers.
 
2012-02-25 03:33:06 PM

whatshisname: Compare that list to the Top 70 of the 70's or Top 80 of the 80's and it really brings home how musically challenged the 90's were.


I would be willing to bet an article by Paste (which is what a lot of you seem to be missing. This is not Kerrang or Rolling Stone) about greatest albums of the 70s and 80s would probably feature a bunch of "hipster bullshiat" that would probably never occur to you to include, yet is more relevant.


FWIW, they did make a list of Best Albums of the 80s
 
2012-02-25 03:34:44 PM

Killer Cars: I never understood the love for Mellon Collie though....some decent tracks, sure, but was all over the goddamn place musically and has no flow to it.


I do wonder this myself and have just concluded it's that people like the concept of epic double-albums, even though quite a bit of them are all over the place and generally padded out.
 
2012-02-25 03:35:15 PM
No Tiny Music?
 
2012-02-25 03:36:37 PM
userserve-ak.last.fm

/why doesn't this list get a job
 
2012-02-25 03:37:03 PM

rustypouch: the opposite of charity is justice: Every now and then I play OK Computer in an attempt to see what everyone else sees in this album, so far I've failed every time. 100% completely unremarkable. Which is fine, plenty of albums are meh-ok, but this one keeps making it onto Top 10 lists and I'm just not seeing it.

Someone enlighten me, is this one of those "listen to the notes *not* being played* musical creations?

8/10, as you already got several serious answers.


I'm actually with him on this. I never got the love for Radiohead in general, much less that album. They're not bad by any means, but Farkers talk about them like they're some kind of music gods or something.
 
2012-02-25 03:39:17 PM

FeedTheCollapse: whatshisname: Compare that list to the Top 70 of the 70's or Top 80 of the 80's and it really brings home how musically challenged the 90's were.

I would be willing to bet an article by Paste (which is what a lot of you seem to be missing. This is not Kerrang or Rolling Stone) about greatest albums of the 70s and 80s would probably feature a bunch of "hipster bullshiat" that would probably never occur to you to include, yet is more relevant.


FWIW, they did make a list of Best Albums of the 80s


Appetite for Destruction is far too low in that list.
 
2012-02-25 03:40:18 PM

FeedTheCollapse: FWIW, they did make a list of Best Albums of the 80s


after looking this over, this list seems more egregious:

Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden in the 60s?
JAMC's Psychocandy barely cracking the 40s?
NIN's Pretty Hate Machine in the top 30? That album was dated as fark by 1994...
Doolittle at #1? Pixies aren't really my thing, though I don't dislike them, but there's much better albums...
 
2012-02-25 03:41:05 PM

Gunny Highway: [www.progarchives.com image 500x500]

More Bungle!


This!

At least they got #1 right.
 
2012-02-25 03:41:39 PM

Spatula Porn: I was a child in the 90s. This was the album.
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i will jack you up for reminding me of that.
 
2012-02-25 03:43:56 PM

rustypouch: 8/10, as you already got several serious answers.


Yep, I don't like something you do, therefore I *must* be a troll.
 
2012-02-25 03:45:04 PM
Aerial M - s/t
Autechre - LP5
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works Volume II
Blur - Parklife
Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun
Burger / Ink - Las Vegas
Doldrums - Feng Shui
Fennesz - Hotel paral.lel
Fila Brazillia - Maim That Tune
The Flaming Lips - In a Priest-Driven Ambulance
Porter Ricks - Biokinetics
Monolake - Hong Kong
Soliman Gamil - A Map of Egypt Before the Sands
JSBX - Orange
Gas - Zauberberg
Herbert - Around the House
Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson - Children of Nature
Infiniti - The Infiniti Collection
Jessamine - The Long Arm of Coincidence
Labradford - Mi media naranja
Kenny Larkin - Azimuth
Derrick May - Innovator: Soundtrack for the Tenth Planet
Mazzy Star - So Tonight That I Might See
Marumari - Ballad of the Round Ball
Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam
Model 500 - Deep Space
Mouse on Mars - Instrumentals
Nirvana - MTV Unplugged in New York
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Operation Ivy - Operation Ivy
Pan•American - Pan•American
Panasonic - Kulma
Plastikman - Consumed
Primus - Frizzle Fry
Ride - Nowhere
Slowdive - Just for a Day
Sebadoh - III
Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space
Stereolab - Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements
Two Dollar Guitar - Train Songs
mAKE-uP - Live at COld Rice
U.S. Maple - Sang Phat Editor
Windy & Carl - Depths
AIR - Moon Safari
B12 - Time Tourist
Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
The Boo Radleys - Everything's Alright Forever
The Charlatans - Some Friendly
Convextion - Convextion
Crescent - Now
Cypress Hill - Cypress Hill
Deep Space Network - Big Rooms
Drexciya - Neptune's Lair
Experimental Audio Research - The Köner Experiment
Larry Heard - Sceneries Not Songs Vol. 1
Ifang Bondi - Daraja
Captain Yaba - Yaba Funk Roots
Lush - Spooky
Robert Hood - Minimal Nation
The Martian - Ghostdancer
Rod Modell - The Autonomous Music Project
Move D - Kunststoff
Mr. Fingers - Introduction
Oval - 94 Diskont
Anthony Rother - Sex With the Machines
Royal Trux - Cats and Dogs
Stereo Total - My Melody
Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
Wagon Christ - Tally Ho!
Boo Williams - Home Town Chicago LP
X-103 - Atlantis
Biosphere - Substrata
Carl Craig - More Songs About Food and Revolutionary Art
The Erköse Ensemble - Tzigane: The Gypsy Music of Turkey

Probably forgetting a bunch.
 
2012-02-25 03:47:37 PM

AngryPoet: There are a lot of glaring omissions and some on the list that I would toss.....many of them have been named...but no Tool, Alice in Chains....Jane's Addiction.....and my addition that I have not seen...Morphine....

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(. . . "Probably forgetting a bunch" . . . )

Yeah, like that one. And "Good"

As well as The Breeders - "Pod"
 
2012-02-25 03:50:33 PM

Ironclad2:

Also, I didn't see Snoop Dogg's Doggystyle. Was it on there?


no, and that is criminal.
 
2012-02-25 03:50:48 PM
. . . Luna - Lunapark
Pills 'n' Thrills and Bellyaches
 
2012-02-25 03:51:37 PM

lilplatinum: Really, list, you are going to include Illmatic but not The Blueprint?


fark Jay-Z. Illmatic is waaaaaaay better than anything that self-proclaimed sell out Jay-Z could ever do. Hell, Stillmatic is better than the Blueprint in my opinion. Also Blueprint came out in the early 00s. Reasonable Doubt (a ripoff of Only Built for Cuban Linx, which should be on list along with Liquid Swords) is the only album he had from the 90s that could have made the list but then again, where is Big L? He was way better than Jay Z as well, I assume you heard the Jay and Big L freestyle.

Also, this is more of a list of the top 90 albums of the 90s for white hipster soft-rock douches. They paid hip-hop, hard rock, and electronica lip service by shoving those genres in the bottom half of the list. Hard to imagine not one hip-hop album couldn't crack the top 10 despite the 90s being the golden era of hip-hop music. Also, where the hell is Tool, Alice in Chains, and Sublime? Garbage.
 
2012-02-25 03:51:58 PM

FREDIOHEAD: Ok Computer is just the best album ever made. You're just going to have to deal with it.


I'm guessing theres a smidge of bias shown in that username but thats fine.

Look, I'm not saying its a *bad* album. I've listened to it and some bits are catchy. But for me its like I said originally, unremarkable. Its the white cake of music, white cake is after all still cake but its nothing to write home about either. If someone passes around a piece I'll take it but I'm not putting it on a Top 10 list.

I'm really not wanting to argue subjective opinion here, its the chasm between "this is good" and "this is the best album of the 90s" or as you claim the "best album ever made". To me that goes past subjective opinion and enters downright bizarre territory when I could easily list 100 other albums I don't care fore that I'd still put in front of OK Computer.
 
2012-02-25 03:52:42 PM

TheJoe03: Garbage.


yeah, them too!
 
2012-02-25 03:56:19 PM

the opposite of charity is justice: rustypouch: 8/10, as you already got several serious answers.

Yep, I don't like something you do, therefore I *must* be a troll.


Well, you're either going for the reaction, or have terrible taste and shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion.

So troll or someone who doesn't understand music. Whichever.
 
2012-02-25 04:00:43 PM
Also, where is NIN, RHCP, the Chronic, Slim Shady LP, Tupac, Gang Starr, KRS-One, Ice Cube, Black on Both Sides (Mos Def), Ghostface, Eazy E, Beastie Boys???
 
2012-02-25 04:04:20 PM
stylecrave.frsucrave.netdna-cdn.com
 
2012-02-25 04:05:57 PM

FeedTheCollapse: I do wonder this myself and have just concluded it's that people like the concept of epic double-albums, even though quite a bit of them are all over the place and generally padded out.


That's the best I can figure out of it, too. It's not like I think half of the songs on Mellon Collie are total garbage that should've been tossed in the bin or relegated to B-side status, but there are tracks on there that just don't fit.

rickycal78: I'm actually with him on this. I never got the love for Radiohead in general, much less that album. They're not bad by any means, but Farkers talk about them like they're some kind of music gods or something.


Even though my login is an old Radiohead song, I certainly don't consider them "gods", but they struck a chord in the mid-to late 90s with many by simply melding melodic, layered pop-rock with fairly intelligent songwriting. The combination of Jonny Greenwood going apesh*t with his guitar and Yorke wailing away about the human condition in an ever-growing technological and mechanical world gave people something of a palatable "rock show" mixed with "discussing social matters over today's NY Times with my friend Pierre at Starbucks". Because of the latter, you will run into some real elitist f*cknobs over Radiohead's music, and their place in the world, but they undeniably tapped into a somewhat nerdy, intellectual market that still wanted to fist-pump and sing along to something resembling arena rock instead of simply standing around being nerdy and intellectual listening to harmonic Tibetan Monk finger-tapping.

At least, that's the best I can describe their popularity up to OK Computer. Beyond that? Beats me.
 
2012-02-25 04:07:43 PM
Mobb Deep the Infamous?? Damn, I keep thinking of all these damn omissions! I'll stop now.
 
2012-02-25 04:19:48 PM
How the hell is OK Computer "hipster". That's like calling pizza hipster. God some of you people are embarrassing
 
ecl
2012-02-25 04:36:43 PM

rickycal78: Leader O'Cola: scope1000: Metallica


Bullshiat.
That album is 100% emblematic of everything wrong with metal

Says the guy that thinks cookie monster crap is good music.


Says the Kid Rock fan.
 
2012-02-25 04:38:34 PM

thetrenchcoat: No love for Type O Negative I guess.


Yeah, what the hell? Bloody Kisses should have been in the top ten, at least. It was a brilliant completely new sound during a decade of marbles-in-the-mouth singing and grungy three power chord garbage. List looks like a bunch of hipster shiat and one hit wonders picked only because they got massive radio play at the time.
 
2012-02-25 04:40:48 PM

SPna15: List sucks, thread sucks.


well your contribution was the best anyone has done so far, but meh on most of those
 
2012-02-25 04:47:59 PM

you are a puppet: How the hell is OK Computer "hipster". That's like calling pizza hipster. God some of you people are embarrassing


I don't think Radiohead themselves are hipster at all but pretty much every hipster loves them. Guilt by association I guess. It's pretty much why I dislike them, they try to co-opt other movements and music styles, they got their eyes on alternative and underground hip-hop and even some edm scenes right now. They have already stolen alternative rock and folk rock. I bet they try to infiltrate country music somehow.
 
2012-02-25 04:48:52 PM
I just realized this isn't on there, so really, the list is worthless:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-02-25 04:53:30 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
kab
2012-02-25 04:56:57 PM
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All belong on this list somewhere.
 
kab
2012-02-25 04:58:08 PM

ecl: rickycal78: Leader O'Cola: scope1000: Metallica


Bullshiat.
That album is 100% emblematic of everything wrong with metal

Says the guy that thinks cookie monster crap is good music.

Says the Kid Rock fan.


boom-headshot.jpg
 
2012-02-25 04:58:40 PM

TheJoe03: you are a puppet: How the hell is OK Computer "hipster". That's like calling pizza hipster. God some of you people are embarrassing

I don't think Radiohead themselves are hipster at all but pretty much every hipster loves them. Guilt by association I guess. It's pretty much why I dislike them, they try to co-opt other movements and music styles, they got their eyes on alternative and underground hip-hop and even some edm scenes right now. They have already stolen alternative rock and folk rock. I bet they try to infiltrate country music somehow.


Every hipster I've ever met dislikes popular, mainstream things like RH. In fact back when hipsters were called scenesters like 10 years ago, one of the biggest ways they set themselves apart was by talking about how boring and overrated RH is. My guess is the only people who would consider Radioheads fanbase hipster are those older than 35 or who have never been outside their hometown in North Dakota or w/e.
 
2012-02-25 04:59:23 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

(I like it!)
 
2012-02-25 05:01:25 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Aquemini better than ATLiens? It may have been more artistic, but it pales compared to ATLiens (1996) and even Stankonia (2000).


Stankonia was not even close to being on the level of Aquemini or ATLiens.

ATLiens and Aquemini are about even. ATLiens is probably just a little bit better. Both are hip-hop classics
 
2012-02-25 05:04:35 PM

kab: ecl: rickycal78: Leader O'Cola: scope1000: Metallica


Bullshiat.
That album is 100% emblematic of everything wrong with metal

Says the guy that thinks cookie monster crap is good music.

Says the Kid Rock fan.

boom-headshot.jpg


Dude makes ok songs, even if he does rip off other artists, so what? Funny though having someone who thinks Sarah McLachlan and Portishead should be on a best of the 90s list make fun of someone for liking a few Kid Rock songs. Taste really is subjective, amazing isn't it?
 
2012-02-25 05:05:54 PM
No Nine Inch Nails
No Tupac
No Sublime
No Alice in Chains
No Metallica
No Soundgarden
No Rob Zombie
No Kid Rock (give me hell if you want, but Devil Without a Cause was great)
and Greenday Dookie in the 50's >.>

Did this person even live through the 90's?
 
2012-02-25 05:06:14 PM

rickycal78: kab: ecl: rickycal78: Leader O'Cola: scope1000: Metallica


Bullshiat.
That album is 100% emblematic of everything wrong with metal

Says the guy that thinks cookie monster crap is good music.

Says the Kid Rock fan.

boom-headshot.jpg

Dude makes ok songs, even if he does rip off other artists, so what? Funny though having someone who thinks Sarah McLachlan and Portishead should be on a best of the 90s list make fun of someone for liking a few Kid Rock songs. Taste really is subjective, amazing isn't it?


Not really. Kid Rock's music objectively sucks. Your tastes are objectively wrong.
 
2012-02-25 05:08:13 PM
I know I'll take some shiat, but I expected this on there too:
upload.wikimedia.org

and
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-02-25 05:08:58 PM

you are a puppet: Every hipster I've ever met dislikes popular, mainstream things like RH.


But hipsters and their music are mainstream now. I wonder what happens, do they implode?
 
2012-02-25 05:10:04 PM

you are a puppet: rickycal78: kab: ecl: rickycal78: Leader O'Cola: scope1000: Metallica


Bullshiat.
That album is 100% emblematic of everything wrong with metal

Says the guy that thinks cookie monster crap is good music.

Says the Kid Rock fan.

boom-headshot.jpg

Dude makes ok songs, even if he does rip off other artists, so what? Funny though having someone who thinks Sarah McLachlan and Portishead should be on a best of the 90s list make fun of someone for liking a few Kid Rock songs. Taste really is subjective, amazing isn't it?

Not really. Kid Rock's music objectively sucks. Your tastes are objectively wrong.


You like Matchbox 20, your argument is invalid.
 
2012-02-25 05:10:58 PM
Richard Thompson - Rumour and Sigh

nothing else comes close
 
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