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2012-02-25 01:34:44 AM
Then he ate the tip.
 
2012-02-25 01:41:37 AM
Can't think of anything funny? Borrow someone else's material. Hopefully, Bill Maher doesn't go after him for stealing jokes.
 
2012-02-25 01:46:43 AM
I'm an atheist, and that seemed overly contrived to me. Not the Colbert I'm used to.
 
2012-02-25 01:48:19 AM
What a schmuck.
 
2012-02-25 01:56:18 AM
I thought it was clever to fight back a meaningless symbolic ceremony with an equally ridiculous and symbolic ceremony.
 
2012-02-25 02:07:56 AM
All I know is Mormons are stupid. All of them.
 
2012-02-25 02:12:11 AM

justtray: I thought it was clever to fight back a meaningless symbolic ceremony with an equally ridiculous and symbolic ceremony.


This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?
 
2012-02-25 02:15:09 AM

Bob from accounting: Can't think of anything funny? Borrow someone else's material. Hopefully, Bill Maher doesn't go after him for stealing jokes.


If it was funny, then it wasn't stolen from Maher.
 
2012-02-25 02:18:11 AM

fusillade762: This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?


It's being religiously nice and diplomatically stupid. As a Jew I'd be offended too, I can't blame them for their complaint at all. I have my problems with the Mormon's too. Their church totally cockblocked me in highschool when I had a thing for a really cute Mormon girl down the street. Don't worry though, I had a special private ceremony for her quite a few times.
 
2012-02-25 02:19:35 AM

chapman: Bob from accounting: Can't think of anything funny? Borrow someone else's material. Hopefully, Bill Maher doesn't go after him for stealing jokes.

If it was funny, then it wasn't stolen from Maher.


If it was funny, it wasn't DAMNIT.
 
2012-02-25 02:21:18 AM
So, just to let you all know, I'm currently conducting an arcane ritual that strips everyone who posts in this thread of their soul (I don't even need to know your names, your Fark handles are sufficient for my purposes). This provides me with increased magic powers and guarantees none of you will ever get into heaven. AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!!! Muwahahahahaaaa!
 
2012-02-25 02:29:35 AM

fusillade762: So, just to let you all know, I'm currently conducting an arcane ritual that strips everyone who posts in this thread of their soul (I don't even need to know your names, your Fark handles are sufficient for my purposes). This provides me with increased magic powers and guarantees none of you will ever get into heaven. AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!!! Muwahahahahaaaa!


I am quoting you. Should you fail to prevent this quote to continue to exist in thread, you give me your permission to take your soul and all your power for all time and waive any claims of power over me either directly or through a third party. Also you agree that I can raid your fridge for burritos at any time and if burritos are not present, I am allowed to lash you violently about the head with my cane.

Further, this thread and any statement, comment, action or reply either past future or present cannot be used to diminish this or any right belonging to me, aka chapman, aka captain happy pants or any of my subsidiary interests.
 
2012-02-25 02:39:07 AM

farkingismybusiness: All I know is Mormons are stupid. All of them.


So, A) you don't know much and B) what you do know is false.

Sad...
 
2012-02-25 02:39:43 AM

fusillade762: This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?


Well let's see. Mormons keep vast and detailed genealogical records of anyone on earth, and they perform baptisms on behalf of the deceased , , , nothing odd going on with this bunch of fine folks, nossir
 
2012-02-25 02:45:37 AM

Trackball: farkingismybusiness: All I know is Mormons are stupid. All of them.

So, A) you don't know much and B) what you do know is false.

Sad...


Some might be smart, but...

/I bet you respect Scientology too
 
2012-02-25 02:48:11 AM

jeanwearinfool: I'm an atheist, and that seemed overly contrived to me. Not the Colbert I'm used to.


Actually, I thought the whole thing was a little bit mean. I'm Catholic, but probably not as Catholic as Colbert, and he should know the Mormon post baptism isn't an automatic "conversion". It's an offering to the dead for the opportunity to become Mormon in the afterlife (along with seven million other rules).

Colbert is usually pretty good about riding the line between funny and serious, but that whole skit went for a bad Jew joke, a bad generalization about the tenets of Mormon faith, and bad behavior by a Catholic, who shouldn't be making fun of other religions at all.
 
2012-02-25 02:48:39 AM

farkingismybusiness: Trackball: farkingismybusiness: All I know is Mormons are stupid. All of them.

So, A) you don't know much and B) what you do know is false.

Sad...

Some might be smart, but...

/I bet you respect Scientology too


Farking is your business and you can't afford TotalFark? Business must not be good.
 
2012-02-25 03:01:13 AM

chapman: farkingismybusiness: Trackball: farkingismybusiness: All I know is Mormons are stupid. All of them.

So, A) you don't know much and B) what you do know is false.

Sad...

Some might be smart, but...

/I bet you respect Scientology too

Farking is your business and you can't afford TotalFark? Business must not be good.


For me, that's the joke. Although I did enjoy the couple times I was sponsored.

/I'm also a gigalo who loves Megadeth
 
2012-02-25 03:03:51 AM

fusillade762: justtray: I thought it was clever to fight back a meaningless symbolic ceremony with an equally ridiculous and symbolic ceremony.

This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?


Let's start with the absolute microscopic point: Converting someone via their grave is insulting to the family of the deceased.

Zoom out x3: It's not the first time a Mormon has converted a dead person.

Zoom out x5: Apparently converting the deceased is a 'thing' Mormons do.

Enhance image: The Mormon faith has a quasi-official policy of disrespecting graveyards and flagrantly attacking the universal social code of bereavement.

Filter: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has had a history of carefully revising the distasteful and outrageous faith-ordained habits of their membership (read: Polygamy). They've got experience in stopping Mormons from pissing off the public. There is no excuse for the LDS refusing to stop its people from grave baptism unless the organization endorses the practice.

Analysis: At the very least this puts the LDS organization in the same ethical valley as the funeral protestors of the Westboro Baptist Church. That kind of antisocial behavior has no place in the 21st Century and the organization rightly deserves the traditional media assault.
 
2012-02-25 03:05:37 AM
This brings back great memories of me at 3 waving my hands about, taking deep breaths and stealing all the air around my sister from across the room. She hated that.
 
2012-02-25 03:17:11 AM

fusillade762: So, just to let you all know, I'm currently conducting an arcane ritual that strips everyone who posts in this thread of their soul (I don't even need to know your names, your Fark handles are sufficient for my purposes). This provides me with increased magic powers and guarantees none of you will ever get into heaven. AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!!! Muwahahahahaaaa!


Ha! I just ruined your ritual!

How?

I don't have a soul.
 
2012-02-25 03:39:00 AM

fusillade762: justtray: I thought it was clever to fight back a meaningless symbolic ceremony with an equally ridiculous and symbolic ceremony.

This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?


Amongst other things, Mormons have been performing proxy baptism on Holocaust victims, people who were killed because they were Jewish, The LDS church as been asked repeatedly not to perform these baptisms on those of the Jewish faith. They stop for awhile and then it starts over again. What it boils down to is a sign of disrespect for another person's religious beliefs. When the Jewish community asks the Mormons to cease and desist performing proxy baptisms, the Mormons should respect their wishes.

Recently Anne Frank was baptisted again, for the 9th or 10th time.

It's a huge issue in the Jewish community because many in the past have been forced to convert to Christianity or be killed. This was fairly common during the Spanish Inquisition.

Someone even submitted the name of Nobel Peace Prize winner and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel as being ready for a proxy baptism, even though he's still alive. They've already baptised some of his relatives who died under the Nazis.
 
2012-02-25 03:52:16 AM

Bathia_Mapes: fusillade762: justtray: I thought it was clever to fight back a meaningless symbolic ceremony with an equally ridiculous and symbolic ceremony.

This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?

Amongst other things, Mormons have been performing proxy baptism on Holocaust victims, people who were killed because they were Jewish, The LDS church as been asked repeatedly not to perform these baptisms on those of the Jewish faith. They stop for awhile and then it starts over again. What it boils down to is a sign of disrespect for another person's religious beliefs. When the Jewish community asks the Mormons to cease and desist performing proxy baptisms, the Mormons should respect their wishes.

Recently Anne Frank was baptisted again, for the 9th or 10th time.

It's a huge issue in the Jewish community because many in the past have been forced to convert to Christianity or be killed. This was fairly common during the Spanish Inquisition.

Someone even submitted the name of Nobel Peace Prize winner and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel as being ready for a proxy baptism, even though he's still alive. They've already baptised some of his relatives who died under the Nazis.


There's a time for politeness and this isn't it. Warn the mormon's once. After that someone in a position to speak for the Jewish faith should stand up and call these proxy baptisms what they are. Acts of profanity.** Just say, "Look what you guys are doing is dumb, even for Mormon's; you're desecrating our dead. Knock it the fark off, nitwits." Then leave it at that.

Or go the more obvious root... Treat them like the developmentally disabled child that doesn't know not to dry hump the couch in mixed company. "Mormon's, WTF, amiright? Please stop embarrassing yourselves."

**I'm not faithful, so this would be a statement of religious relativity and in no way a belief of my own.
 
2012-02-25 03:54:49 AM
Next thing you know he won't eat bacon for some magical reason.
 
2012-02-25 03:55:54 AM

fusillade762: justtray: I thought it was clever to fight back a meaningless symbolic ceremony with an equally ridiculous and symbolic ceremony.

This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?


I feel the same way, personally - anyone who wants to convert me by proxy can go right ahead. I don't really care. And by the rules of most religions, it makes no difference anyway - if I don't believe, then it's just motions and it doesn't count. So it's pointless.

But then I read the explanations here on Fark about why people get upset and I have to agree - in essence, it's a dick move. They've been asked repeatedly not to do it, by people who are bothered by it for a variety of reasons. The decent thing to do is to KNOCK IT THE FARK OFF, not to say, "Oh - right - sure thing" and keep it up.
 
2012-02-25 04:00:27 AM

Bob from accounting: Can't think of anything funny? Borrow someone else's material. Hopefully, Bill Maher doesn't go after him for stealing jokes.


They both stole the joke from legendary televangelist Dr. Gene Scott,who, pausing to clip and light a cigar during one of his late-night lectures, would drawl, "Excuse me while I circumcise this..."

www.morethings.com
 
2012-02-25 04:14:03 AM

nocturn: Bathia_Mapes: fusillade762: justtray: I thought it was clever to fight back a meaningless symbolic ceremony with an equally ridiculous and symbolic ceremony.

This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?

Amongst other things, Mormons have been performing proxy baptism on Holocaust victims, people who were killed because they were Jewish, The LDS church as been asked repeatedly not to perform these baptisms on those of the Jewish faith. They stop for awhile and then it starts over again. What it boils down to is a sign of disrespect for another person's religious beliefs. When the Jewish community asks the Mormons to cease and desist performing proxy baptisms, the Mormons should respect their wishes.

Recently Anne Frank was baptisted again, for the 9th or 10th time.

It's a huge issue in the Jewish community because many in the past have been forced to convert to Christianity or be killed. This was fairly common during the Spanish Inquisition.

Someone even submitted the name of Nobel Peace Prize winner and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel as being ready for a proxy baptism, even though he's still alive. They've already baptised some of his relatives who died under the Nazis.

There's a time for politeness and this isn't it. Warn the mormon's once. After that someone in a position to speak for the Jewish faith should stand up and call these proxy baptisms what they are. Acts of profanity.** Just say, "Look what you guys are doing is dumb, even for Mormon's; you're desecrating our dead. Knock it the fark off, nitwits." Then leave it at that.

Or go the more obvious root... Treat them like the developmentally disabled child that doesn't know not to dry hump the couch in mixed company. "Mormon's, WTF, amiright? Please stop embarrassing yourselves."

**I'm not faithful, so this would be a st ...


That's just it. The Jewish community has been requesting that the Mormons stop performing proxy baptisms and the Mormons keep breaking their promise to stop. They've been asked to stop frequently, politely at first, but it seems lately that the requests have been getting less and less polite, as they should be.
 
2012-02-25 04:21:27 AM
Meh, I haven't been paying all that much attention to the foofarah, but if the Jewish community really wants to hit the Mormon's and hasn't tossed in desecration, they're missing an easy swing. :)
 
2012-02-25 04:22:07 AM
So does that mean my grandmother, who was Catholic while she was alive, and then baptized LDS by my uncle against her wishes after she died, is now Jewish?

And if Judaism passes along on the mother's side, does that mean my uncle is now Jewish too?
 
2012-02-25 04:30:44 AM

tinyarena: fusillade762: This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?

Well let's see. Mormons keep vast and detailed genealogical records of anyone on earth, and they perform baptisms on behalf of the deceased , , , nothing odd going on with this bunch of fine folks, nossir


Let's face it. They're tracing all the bloodlines so they can breed the Kwisatz Haderach, a supreme being who can see all possible timelines and all possible jello salad recipes.
 
2012-02-25 04:57:59 AM

Trackball: farkingismybusiness: All I know is Mormons are stupid. All of them.

So, A) you don't know much and B) what you do know is false.

Sad...


The mormon dogma and catechism has been thoroughly debunked. It's the same as Scientology. Even if you're one of those wishy washy agnostic types, you have to be either batshiat crazy or retarded to be a Mormon.

//goes for Scientology too.
 
2012-02-25 05:01:48 AM
FTFA: "Mormons often perform the baptisms, saying people who died that did not get the chance to be baptised while living can choose to deny it."

Since I can't imagine how I'd make a choice or deny (or approve) something after I'm dead (or do anything at all), I think I'll preemptively deny it by including my refusal in my last will & testament. The statement will read, "Don't 'tize me, bro!"
 
2012-02-25 05:01:55 AM

Darth Macho: fusillade762: justtray: I thought it was clever to fight back a meaningless symbolic ceremony with an equally ridiculous and symbolic ceremony.

This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?

Let's start with the absolute microscopic point: Converting someone via their grave is insulting to the family of the deceased.

Zoom out x3: It's not the first time a Mormon has converted a dead person.

Zoom out x5: Apparently converting the deceased is a 'thing' Mormons do.

Enhance image: The Mormon faith has a quasi-official policy of disrespecting graveyards and flagrantly attacking the universal social code of bereavement.

Filter: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has had a history of carefully revising the distasteful and outrageous faith-ordained habits of their membership (read: Polygamy). They've got experience in stopping Mormons from pissing off the public. There is no excuse for the LDS refusing to stop its people from grave baptism unless the organization endorses the practice.

Analysis: At the very least this puts the LDS organization in the same ethical valley as the funeral protestors of the Westboro Baptist Church. That kind of antisocial behavior has no place in the 21st Century and the organization rightly deserves the traditional media assault.


upload.wikimedia.org

Target: Mormons.

Recommended action: Complete termination.
 
2012-02-25 05:09:00 AM
Doesn't he know that all dead Mormons are now gay? (new window)
 
2012-02-25 05:31:33 AM

Cornelius Dribble: Bob from accounting: Can't think of anything funny? Borrow someone else's material. Hopefully, Bill Maher doesn't go after him for stealing jokes.

They both stole the joke from legendary televangelist Dr. Gene Scott,who, pausing to clip and light a cigar during one of his late-night lectures, would drawl, "Excuse me while I circumcise this..."

[www.morethings.com image 640x266]


Bob was talking about Maher un-baptising someone in a mock ritual. you'd have to go back a couple hundred years to find the first use of a cigar cutter as a metaphor for circumcision
 
2012-02-25 05:49:30 AM

fusillade762: justtray: I thought it was clever to fight back a meaningless symbolic ceremony with an equally ridiculous and symbolic ceremony.

This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?


I'm neither Jewish nor religious, but nevertheless, I find posthumous baptism to be pretty farking offensive, especially to Jews.

Read Genesis, Exodus, the history of the Inquisition, and Mein Kampf; one of the major themes - perhaps THE major theme - of Judaic history has been people trying to not only kill lots of Jews, but to write them out of history entirely. Seriously, there's roughly 6000 years of Pharaohs and Fuhrers trying to rewrite history such that the Jews never existed.

The Mormons may be well meaning (if you give them the benefit of the doubt, for some reason), but posthumous baptism is no better - from an historical perspective - than the Assyrian diaspora or the Spanish Inquisition. It's an attempt to write Judaism out of history, and it's disgusting.
 
2012-02-25 05:50:32 AM
I think it was inappropriate of him to do that. Even Jesus Christ did not mock the beliefs of those whose beliefs he did not agree with. Sure, he said things that ticked off the authorities so badly that they had him crucified, but he didn't mock them
 
2012-02-25 05:53:35 AM

nocturn: Bathia_Mapes: fusillade762: justtray: I thought it was clever to fight back a meaningless symbolic ceremony with an equally ridiculous and symbolic ceremony.

This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?

Amongst other things, Mormons have been performing proxy baptism on Holocaust victims, people who were killed because they were Jewish, The LDS church as been asked repeatedly not to perform these baptisms on those of the Jewish faith. They stop for awhile and then it starts over again. What it boils down to is a sign of disrespect for another person's religious beliefs. When the Jewish community asks the Mormons to cease and desist performing proxy baptisms, the Mormons should respect their wishes.

Recently Anne Frank was baptisted again, for the 9th or 10th time.

It's a huge issue in the Jewish community because many in the past have been forced to convert to Christianity or be killed. This was fairly common during the Spanish Inquisition.

Someone even submitted the name of Nobel Peace Prize winner and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel as being ready for a proxy baptism, even though he's still alive. They've already baptised some of his relatives who died under the Nazis.

There's a time for politeness and this isn't it. Warn the mormon's once. After that someone in a position to speak for the Jewish faith should stand up and call these proxy baptisms what they are. Acts of profanity.** Just say, "Look what you guys are doing is dumb, even for Mormon's; you're desecrating our dead. Knock it the fark off, nitwits." Then leave it at that.

Or go the more obvious root... Treat them like the developmentally disabled child that doesn't know not to dry hump the couch in mixed company. "Mormon's, WTF, amiright? Please stop embarrassing yourselves."

**I'm not faithful, so this would be a st ...


So on the scale of dick moves, is this *more* or *less* dickish than leaving a flaming bag of poop on someone's doorstep?
 
2012-02-25 05:56:55 AM

Bathia_Mapes: That's just it. The Jewish community has been requesting that the Mormons stop performing proxy baptisms and the Mormons keep breaking their promise to stop. They've been asked to stop frequently, politely at first, but it seems lately that the requests have been getting less and less polite, as they should be.


Are we on the verge of some kind of, dare I say it, *war* over things holy?
 
2012-02-25 06:03:24 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: I feel the same way, personally - anyone who wants to convert me by proxy can go right ahead. I don't really care. And by the rules of most religions, it makes no difference anyway - if I don't believe, then it's just motions and it doesn't count. So it's pointless.


My grandparents were immigrants from Ireland. I assume you're ancestors were also immigrants. Would you be at least interested if the Lakota Sioux decided that your ancestors

FunkOut: Let's face it. They're tracing all the bloodlines so they can breed the Kwisatz Haderach


The big problem is that they bred Paul Atreidies-HUSSEIN-Obama was born one generation too soon, and Willard Feyd-Clinton Romney needs to breed with him to make the Bene Filibusterette plan come to fruition.
 
2012-02-25 06:10:05 AM

fusillade762: nocturn: Bathia_Mapes: fusillade762: justtray: I thought it was clever to fight back a meaningless symbolic ceremony with an equally ridiculous and symbolic ceremony.

This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?

Amongst other things, Mormons have been performing proxy baptism on Holocaust victims, people who were killed because they were Jewish, The LDS church as been asked repeatedly not to perform these baptisms on those of the Jewish faith. They stop for awhile and then it starts over again. What it boils down to is a sign of disrespect for another person's religious beliefs. When the Jewish community asks the Mormons to cease and desist performing proxy baptisms, the Mormons should respect their wishes.

Recently Anne Frank was baptisted again, for the 9th or 10th time.

It's a huge issue in the Jewish community because many in the past have been forced to convert to Christianity or be killed. This was fairly common during the Spanish Inquisition.

Someone even submitted the name of Nobel Peace Prize winner and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel as being ready for a proxy baptism, even though he's still alive. They've already baptised some of his relatives who died under the Nazis.

There's a time for politeness and this isn't it. Warn the mormon's once. After that someone in a position to speak for the Jewish faith should stand up and call these proxy baptisms what they are. Acts of profanity.** Just say, "Look what you guys are doing is dumb, even for Mormon's; you're desecrating our dead. Knock it the fark off, nitwits." Then leave it at that.

Or go the more obvious root... Treat them like the developmentally disabled child that doesn't know not to dry hump the couch in mixed company. "Mormon's, WTF, amiright? Please stop embarrassing yourselves."

**I'm not faithful, so this woul ...


fusillade762: Bathia_Mapes: That's just it. The Jewish community has been requesting that the Mormons stop performing proxy baptisms and the Mormons keep breaking their promise to stop. They've been asked to stop frequently, politely at first, but it seems lately that the requests have been getting less and less polite, as they should be.

Are we on the verge of some kind of, dare I say it, *war* over things holy?


I'm going to post this statement from a Holocaust survivor as my answer,

From Wikipedia:

In 2008, the American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors announced that, since the Church had repeatedly violated previous agreements, it would no longer negotiate with the Church to try to prevent vicarious baptism. Speaking on the anniversary of Kristallnacht, Ernest Michel, a Holocaust survivor who reported on the Nuremberg Trials, speaking as the honorary chairman of the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors, called on the LDS Church to "implement a mechanism to undo what [they] have done", and declared that the LDS Church had repeatedly violated their agreements, and that talks with Mormon leaders were now ended. Jewish groups, he said, would now turn to the court of public opinion for justice. Michel called the practice a revision of history that plays into the hands of Holocaust deniers, stating: "They tell me, that my parents' Jewishness has not been altered but ... 100 years from now, how will they be able to guarantee that my mother and father of blessed memory who lived as Jews and were slaughtered by Hitler for no other reason than they were Jews, will someday not be identified as Mormon victims of the Holocaust?"


In addition: In February 2012, the issue re-emerged after it was found that the parents of Holocaust survivor and Jewish rights advocate Simon Wiesenthal were added to the genealogical database.

Oh, and in May 2009, it was discovered that President Barack Obama's mother was baptized posthumously into the LDS church on June 4, 2008. This was during her son's presidential campaign.
 
2012-02-25 06:45:43 AM

fusillade762: nocturn: Bathia_Mapes: fusillade762: justtray: I thought it was clever to fight back a meaningless symbolic ceremony with an equally ridiculous and symbolic ceremony.

This. I don't get the whole controversy. It seems like an elaborate version of the "I got your nose" thing. If you don't believe Mormonism is the "True" religion why would you be bothered by some silly ceremony?

Amongst other things, Mormons have been performing proxy baptism on Holocaust victims, people who were killed because they were Jewish, The LDS church as been asked repeatedly not to perform these baptisms on those of the Jewish faith. They stop for awhile and then it starts over again. What it boils down to is a sign of disrespect for another person's religious beliefs. When the Jewish community asks the Mormons to cease and desist performing proxy baptisms, the Mormons should respect their wishes.

Recently Anne Frank was baptisted again, for the 9th or 10th time.

It's a huge issue in the Jewish community because many in the past have been forced to convert to Christianity or be killed. This was fairly common during the Spanish Inquisition.

Someone even submitted the name of Nobel Peace Prize winner and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel as being ready for a proxy baptism, even though he's still alive. They've already baptised some of his relatives who died under the Nazis.

There's a time for politeness and this isn't it. Warn the mormon's once. After that someone in a position to speak for the Jewish faith should stand up and call these proxy baptisms what they are. Acts of profanity.** Just say, "Look what you guys are doing is dumb, even for Mormon's; you're desecrating our dead. Knock it the fark off, nitwits." Then leave it at that.

Or go the more obvious root... Treat them like the developmentally disabled child that doesn't know not to dry hump the couch in mixed company. "Mormon's, WTF, amiright? Please stop embarrassing yourselves."

**I'm not faithful, so this woul ...


It's calling it for what it is. The whole thing's very childish. I don't even know why the Jewish folk would care. It's so weird.

I'm really quite surprised by the whole thing. I want to know what Tatsuma thinks about this.
 
2012-02-25 06:51:15 AM
OOOOH. I think I get it now. Mormon's are the judeophiliac equivalent of weeaboos...

Okay, off to wikipedia for more slanted info.
 
2012-02-25 08:10:08 AM
Why cut off the tip of the hot dog to represent circumcision?
Circumcision doesn't cut the head off the penis.

Maybe if they took a sausage and cut the casing off, it'd be more accurate.
 
2012-02-25 09:24:48 AM

Lsherm: jeanwearinfool: I'm an atheist, and that seemed overly contrived to me. Not the Colbert I'm used to.

Actually, I thought the whole thing was a little bit mean. I'm Catholic, but probably not as Catholic as Colbert, and he should know the Mormon post baptism isn't an automatic "conversion". It's an offering to the dead for the opportunity to become Mormon in the afterlife (along with seven million other rules).

Colbert is usually pretty good about riding the line between funny and serious, but that whole skit went for a bad Jew joke, a bad generalization about the tenets of Mormon faith, and bad behavior by a Catholic, who shouldn't be making fun of other religions at all.


All religions should be made fun of. Equally. Because they are all equally ridiculous, just in different ways.
 
2012-02-25 09:35:22 AM

fusillade762: So on the scale of dick moves, is this *more* or *less* dickish than leaving a flaming bag of poop on someone's doorstep?


I'd say only as hair more. But it's the fact that it's spread through the whole faith and they do it to everyone that makes them the religion of dicks and deserving of scorn.
 
2012-02-25 09:40:31 AM
Now he should convert all the dead Muslims to Judaism.
 
Boe
2012-02-25 10:35:04 AM

themadtupper: The big problem is that they bred Paul Atreidies-BALROG-HUSSEIN-Obama was born one generation too soon, and Willard Feyd-Clinton Romney needs to breed with him to make the Bene Filibusterette plan come to fruition.


FTFM
 
2012-02-25 10:40:37 AM

EbolaNYC: All religions should be made fun of. Equally. Because they are all equally ridiculous, just in different ways.


Maybe all religions are crap, maybe they aren't but the ones that are so easily traced back to one dipshiat making shiat up deserve more scorn, IMO.
 
2012-02-25 11:00:57 AM

fusillade762: So, just to let you all know, I'm currently conducting an arcane ritual that strips everyone who posts in this thread of their soul (I don't even need to know your names, your Fark handles are sufficient for my purposes). This provides me with increased magic powers and guarantees none of you will ever get into heaven. AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!!! Muwahahahahaaaa!




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