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(TSN)   The Detroit Red Wings 23-game home winning streak, which only existed because of the shootout, is now over because of the shootout   (tsn.ca ) divider line
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2012-02-24 12:20:32 AM  
Oh this should go well.

Trolly headline is trolly as hell.
 
2012-02-24 12:25:50 AM  
I'll play. Who knows what the longest home unbeaten streak was? Because if you just count the shootout wins as ties, it would be the same thing.

Let's get that info, I'll look myself, but it would be much better if we all tried to find this out.

Look for a team that had a streak of wins and ties.
 
2012-02-24 12:35:19 AM  
In before some Rev.K butthurt.
 
2012-02-24 12:37:19 AM  

9beers: In before some Rev.K butthurt.


No you're not. Who do you think submitted this?
 
2012-02-24 12:39:13 AM  

ravenssettle: No you're not. Who do you think submitted this?


Dammit!
 
2012-02-24 12:41:11 AM  

jaylectricity: Who knows what the longest home unbeaten streak was?


34 games -- 1977 Montreal Canadiens. They only lost 1 game at home that year, and they only lost 8 games total all year long. They are the most statistically dominant team in NHL history.

/just saying
 
2012-02-24 12:50:04 AM  

Ishkur: They are the most statistically dominant team in NHL history.


Hockey royalty.
 
2012-02-24 12:51:08 AM  

ravenssettle: 9beers: In before some Rev.K butthurt.

No you're not. Who do you think submitted this?


My headline was much more harsh.
 
2012-02-24 12:53:15 AM  

Rev.K: My headline was much more harsh.


That's because you're the most bitter.

23 in a row, longest home winning streak in NHL history.
 
2012-02-24 12:57:15 AM  

9beers: That's because you're the most bitter.

23 in a row, longest home winning streak in NHL history.



* if you count shootouts.

/there, I'm happy
 
2012-02-24 01:01:45 AM  

Rev.K: /there, I'm happy


Calgary lost last night and is currently out of a playoff spot.
 
2012-02-24 01:02:45 AM  

9beers: Calgary lost last night and is currently out of a playoff spot.


They lost again tonight.....WAIT FOR IT.......in a shootout.
 
2012-02-24 01:07:11 AM  

Rev.K: 9beers: That's because you're the most bitter.

23 in a row, longest home winning streak in NHL history.


* if you count shootouts.

/there, I'm happy


Yeah, and the Bruins had the record* before the Red Wings did.

*If you count that they didn't have to deal with a salary cap or 29 other teams for talent

You can make caveats for every record.
 
2012-02-24 01:08:06 AM  

Rev.K: 9beers: Calgary lost last night and is currently out of a playoff spot.

They lost again tonight.....WAIT FOR IT.......in a shootout.


So it doesn't count, right? Sorry Dallas, you're still 9th.
 
2012-02-24 01:09:58 AM  
Best. Non-division leading. Eastern Conference. Team in the world, y'all.

/no caveats needed
//except the ones already added
 
2012-02-24 01:11:46 AM  
Shoot out or none I don't really give a damn about what's in the record book. Regardless that was one dominant string of home games for Detroit and if nothing else I'm glad it came to an end in a well fought game. Howard was brilliant, helm looked dangerous all night and the Canucks actually showed up to compete.

If that's a preview of a playoff matchup count me in, that series could be mad fun to watch.
 
2012-02-24 01:13:18 AM  
And on a serious note, fark the noise, 23 is 23. Jim Carrey agrees with me.
 
2012-02-24 01:27:44 AM  

drkdstryer: You can make caveats for every record.


Except that no record has one single caveat that is so obvious, like this record does.

No shootout = no record, period.

For over eighty f*cking years, the NHL had ties. Now, because of the most drastic and retarded rule change in NHL history, the Detroit Red Wings "won" 23 games at home with the benefit of 3 shootout wins.

Again, not saying it's not impressive, not saying that I don't give them any credit at all.

But it's ridiculous to stack this record up against the records of old when they clearly are not the same.
 
2012-02-24 01:44:08 AM  

Rev.K: drkdstryer: You can make caveats for every record.

Except that no record has one single caveat that is so obvious, like this record does.

No shootout = no record, period.

For over eighty f*cking years, the NHL had ties. Now, because of the most drastic and retarded rule change in NHL history, the Detroit Red Wings "won" 23 games at home with the benefit of 3 shootout wins.

Again, not saying it's not impressive, not saying that I don't give them any credit at all.

But it's ridiculous to stack this record up against the records of old when they clearly are not the same.


Since you have such a problem with their record you may call it a 23-game unbeaten streak.

You sound like an old man yelling at a wall for not being the tree he grew up with. Let it go. Times change.
 
2012-02-24 01:50:07 AM  

ravenssettle: You sound like an old man yelling at a wall for not being the tree he grew up with. Let it go. Times change.


The Wings did it with the rules of their era. Just because the resident troll of the hockey threads still hates the team doesn't make the accomplishment any less valid.

I'm not too upset with the streak ending. It had to happen eventually, and at least we lost to a decent team.
 
2012-02-24 01:52:37 AM  

IMDWalrus: still hates the team


To be fair: I'm a lifelong Wings hater, but at least it's for good reasons.

Their fans are all dicks. :p
 
2012-02-24 02:01:05 AM  

ravenssettle: IMDWalrus: still hates the team

To be fair: I'm a lifelong Wings hater, but at least it's for good reasons.

Their fans are all dicks. :p


Hey now, that's my fiance you're talking about.

/She got me into hockey, but since I'm from Calfornia I chose to be a Sharks fan
//She's bitter I'm rooting for the "wrong" team :)
 
2012-02-24 02:27:43 AM  

AntonChigger: Hey now, that's my fiance you're talking about.


My sympathies. :p

/go Hawks!
 
2012-02-24 03:12:35 AM  

ravenssettle: You sound like an old man yelling at a wall for not being the tree he grew up with. Let it go. Times change.


Or become a caps fan. That goddamn tree never changes.
 
2012-02-24 03:26:13 AM  
Say what you will about the Canucks they're a blast to watch when they're playing a game against top notch teams like the Red Wings or Bruins the games are amazing.
 
2012-02-24 03:44:21 AM  

Rev.K: Now, because of the most drastic and retarded rule change in NHL history


Despite my lack of love for the shootout, you are ignoring the purpose of the change. Hockey is a uniquely fierce and combative sport; we should not have tie games. However, with back-to-back games or with travel and only a day's rest before the next, consecutive overtimes as is done during the playoffs is not reasonable. With minimum two days between each game, this could be done.

For me, the choice is between a tie, fewer games, or the shootout. I take the shootout. Would prefer to see a doubling of the current overtime to ten minutes and best of five for a shootout; five minutes and three shots is practically a coin flip in hockey.
 
2012-02-24 03:49:35 AM  

Vangor: Rev.K: Now, because of the most drastic and retarded rule change in NHL history

Despite my lack of love for the shootout, you are ignoring the purpose of the change. Hockey is a uniquely fierce and combative sport; we should not have tie games. However, with back-to-back games or with travel and only a day's rest before the next, consecutive overtimes as is done during the playoffs is not reasonable. With minimum two days between each game, this could be done.

For me, the choice is between a tie, fewer games, or the shootout. I take the shootout. Would prefer to see a doubling of the current overtime to ten minutes and best of five for a shootout; five minutes and three shots is practically a coin flip in hockey.


What about 3 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an OT win and 1 point for an OT loss. OT is 10 minutes with no shootout and if nobody wins the OT, nobody gets the extra point.

The NHL created the current rule because under the old rules, teams would just sit on the puck in OT to protect the point they'd earned. Now they just do the same thing in the last 5 minutes of regulation.

\\ Go Wings!
 
2012-02-24 05:59:38 AM  

balki1867: and if nobody wins the OT, nobody gets the extra point.


The problem with this (and it's the very similar to the problem that this stupid rule created) is that not all games are equal. Some games are worth only 2 points where every other game is worth 3 points. I don't mind this so much, because in this case it's a mark of shame (both teams are inept, so you get less points). The current rule gives you an extra point because you went to OT (OT games worth 3 total points).

The real problem I have with OT is that playoff positions (not just 8th seed, but all seeds) get decided with a format of hockey that you don't see in the playoffs. There is no 4-on-4 OT in the playoffs (barring off-setting or coincidental penalties)... there is no shoot-out in the playoffs. Yet these factors of the regular season shuffle teams ahead or behind in points against where their team would be based on 5-on-5 regulation records (which would be a valid playoff predictor)
 
2012-02-24 06:14:34 AM  
I was against the shoot-out, but now that it has been implemented it is not going away. It has proven to be very popular. And while I would still prefer it not exist, it is something I have come to accept.

Now if only the NHL would do the sensible thing and go to the 3 point format instead of having a phantom point suddenly up for grabs once regulation is over. But that would destroy at least the facade of parity that keeps interest up late into the season when some teams would otherwise be out of contention, both on paper and in reality.
 
2012-02-24 06:42:33 AM  
The Trinity Squash team is not impressed

//trolling
//likes the Wings
 
2012-02-24 08:40:15 AM  

drkdstryer: Yeah, and the Bruins had the record* before the Red Wings did.

*If you count that they didn't have to deal with a salary cap or 29 other teams for talent

You can make caveats for every record.



So the Bruins won the Cup that year, then?
 
2012-02-24 09:02:10 AM  
How about Burrows pretending to break his stick after the shootout winner. Classy act.
 
2012-02-24 09:13:21 AM  
This is BS all the people saying well the streak doesn't count because of a shoot out. They won anyway they could. Saying it doesn't count is like saying the Allies didn't win WWII because America used the atomic bomb which was never used in previous wars. Get over it.
 
2012-02-24 09:15:13 AM  

One thing we can all agree on - it's our year!

content.sportslogos.net

 
2012-02-24 09:21:42 AM  

epyonyx: This is BS all the people saying well the streak doesn't count because of a shoot out. They won anyway they could. Saying it doesn't count is like saying the Allies didn't win WWII because America used the atomic bomb which was never used in previous wars. Get over it.


True that.

It's also like saying, "If the NFL expands to 75 games next season, and Trent Richardson rushes for 6000 yards, his single season rookie rushing record wouldn't count." WTF?? Of course it would count!

Rule changes are what they are. There's nothing Detroit can do about that. It doesn't lessen their accomplishment one bit. Still, unlike Philly and Boston, I'm sure they'd much rather hoist the cup at the end of the year....
 
2012-02-24 09:30:22 AM  
Fine. Just out of curiosity, what team has the longest home unbeaten streak?
 
2012-02-24 09:35:33 AM  
This means the Canucks are automatically Stanley Cup champions and the Wings have to play out their remaining games with their skate laces tied together.
 
2012-02-24 09:42:12 AM  

TheZorker: Fine. Just out of curiosity, what team has the longest home unbeaten streak?


As was pointed out earlier in the thread, the '77 Canadiens @ 34 games at home w/out a loss.

Congrats to the wings on a hell of a run. I figured it would be ending shortly, several wings have been floating a bit the last few weeks, so I wasn't surprised to see a good team like Vancouver finally bring them down. Now it's a sprint to the finish of the season (and a 3 way race for the president's and HIA through the playoffs).
 
2012-02-24 09:44:51 AM  

animal900: One thing we can all agree on - it's our year!

[content.sportslogos.net image 545x372]


To what, burn your city down again?
 
2012-02-24 10:04:31 AM  

Flappyhead: animal900: One thing we can all agree on - it's our year!

[content.sportslogos.net image 545x372]

To what, burn your city down again?


As I said in the quote thread yesterday: two girls, no cup!
 
2012-02-24 10:09:40 AM  
Jocktopus approves:
img.photobucket.com

As for my team:
img.photobucket.com

It's been a rough season (nothing compared to the post-1998, pre-Ovechkin era when the team was Bondra, Halpern, Olie and a big fat wad of nothing)
 
2012-02-24 10:10:57 AM  
My favorite photobucket image from last years play offs
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-24 10:12:21 AM  
It really is appropriate that a fraudulent winning streak was ended by a fraudulent win.

The unbeaten streak Detroit is on is very impressive regardless.
 
2012-02-24 10:14:43 AM  
I went to the 23rd win on Sunday against the Sharks! Who wants to touch me?
 
2012-02-24 10:18:04 AM  
Oh well....had to end sometime.

Now on to the Stanley Cup!
 
2012-02-24 10:29:09 AM  

mase_face: How about Burrows pretending to break his stick after the shootout winner. Classy act.


He was going to break his stick, but backed down at the last second.

/should have bitten it instead.
 
2012-02-24 10:29:41 AM  

swahnhennessy: I was against the shoot-out, but now that it has been implemented it is not going away. It has proven to be very popular. And while I would still prefer it not exist, it is something I have come to accept.

Now if only the NHL would do the sensible thing and go to the 3 point format instead of having a phantom point suddenly up for grabs once regulation is over. But that would destroy at least the facade of parity that keeps interest up late into the season when some teams would otherwise be out of contention, both on paper and in reality.


Why have points at all? Just have a win or a loss. The OTL point is like a participation medal and is just a holdover from when there were ties. W-L is all you need.
 
2012-02-24 10:38:45 AM  
Let's face it, arguing about this is pointless. The Sharks are just going to knock the Wings out of the playoffs like they did the previous two years anyways.
 
2012-02-24 10:39:45 AM  
I don't hate the Redwings I just hate their obnoxious fan's. They have the douchiest fans in professional sports and I grew up having to deal with Raiders fans so that's saying something.
 
2012-02-24 10:44:56 AM  

swahnhennessy: Now if only the NHL would do the sensible thing and go to the 3 point format instead of having a phantom point suddenly up for grabs once regulation is over.


If the Gongshow CCHA can get this correct, you'd think the NHL could too.
 
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