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(New York Daily News)   Police officer finally admits what no other police officer will - that cops have an arrest quota   (nydailynews.com ) divider line
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2012-02-23 08:28:12 PM  
An honest cop? Poor guy is doomed.
 
2012-02-23 08:35:59 PM  
Even cops have to fill out weekly TPS reports.
 
2012-02-23 08:41:08 PM  
Dickbags.
 
2012-02-23 08:47:13 PM  
This is just the invisible hand of the free market doing its job.

Admittedly the 'job' in this case is farking everything a decent person stands for sideways, but you can't have everything.
 
2012-02-23 08:51:24 PM  

Tigger: This is just the invisible hand of the free market doing its job.


lolwut?
 
2012-02-23 08:56:59 PM  
what specifically can I clarify?
 
2012-02-23 08:56:59 PM  
Sooooo, because one guy tells you what you want to believe with zero evidence, then it's true. But if 1000s tell you there is no such thing then it's a giant conspiracy?
 
2012-02-23 09:00:22 PM  
img17.imageshack.us

/indeed
 
2012-02-23 09:09:45 PM  
Parmesean cheese or butter on the popcorn?
 
2012-02-23 09:16:17 PM  

Tigger: This is just the invisible hand of the free market doing its job.

Admittedly the 'job' in this case is farking everything a decent person stands for sideways, but you can't have everything.


Militarization of the police and private prisons. Yay, free market!
 
2012-02-23 09:18:33 PM  

djkutch: Tigger: This is just the invisible hand of the free market doing its job.

Admittedly the 'job' in this case is farking everything a decent person stands for sideways, but you can't have everything.

Militarization of the police and private prisons. Yay, free market!



Keep yer gummint outta my police and prisons ?
 
2012-02-23 09:21:22 PM  

djkutch: Tigger: This is just the invisible hand of the free market doing its job.

Admittedly the 'job' in this case is farking everything a decent person stands for sideways, but you can't have everything.

Militarization of the police and private prisons. Yay, free market!


According to Wiki, "New York in 2000, enacted laws that ban the privatization of prisons, correctional facilities and any services related to their operation."

So, Yay for the stupidest statements I have read all day.
 
2012-02-23 09:26:18 PM  
My supervisor has told me on numerous occasions that her husband writes his daily quota of traffic tickets early in his shift and spends the remainder of his day hanging out with various friends.
 
2012-02-23 09:27:47 PM  

violentsalvation: djkutch: Tigger: This is just the invisible hand of the free market doing its job.

Admittedly the 'job' in this case is farking everything a decent person stands for sideways, but you can't have everything.

Militarization of the police and private prisons. Yay, free market!

According to Wiki, "New York in 2000, enacted laws that ban the privatization of prisons, correctional facilities and any services related to their operation."

So, Yay for the stupidest statements I have read all day.


I'm sorry, I didn't realize the conversation was restricted to New York, a liberal bastion, if you will.

Welcome to the wild west. (new window)
 
2012-02-23 09:30:33 PM  

djkutch: violentsalvation: djkutch: Tigger: This is just the invisible hand of the free market doing its job.

Admittedly the 'job' in this case is farking everything a decent person stands for sideways, but you can't have everything.

Militarization of the police and private prisons. Yay, free market!

According to Wiki, "New York in 2000, enacted laws that ban the privatization of prisons, correctional facilities and any services related to their operation."

So, Yay for the stupidest statements I have read all day.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize the conversation was restricted to New York, a liberal bastion, if you will.

Welcome to the wild west. (new window)


Private prisons in Arizona are a scourge. The last report I read we are insourcing prisoners from states like Hawaii.
 
2012-02-23 09:39:39 PM  

violentsalvation: djkutch: violentsalvation: djkutch: Tigger: This is just the invisible hand of the free market doing its job.

Admittedly the 'job' in this case is farking everything a decent person stands for sideways, but you can't have everything.

Militarization of the police and private prisons. Yay, free market!

According to Wiki, "New York in 2000, enacted laws that ban the privatization of prisons, correctional facilities and any services related to their operation."

So, Yay for the stupidest statements I have read all day.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize the conversation was restricted to New York, a liberal bastion, if you will.

Welcome to the wild west. (new window)

Private prisons in Arizona are a scourge. The last report I read we are insourcing prisoners from states like Hawaii.


Why do you hate the free market?
 
2012-02-23 09:45:36 PM  

djkutch: violentsalvation: djkutch: violentsalvation: djkutch: Tigger: This is just the invisible hand of the free market doing its job.

Admittedly the 'job' in this case is farking everything a decent person stands for sideways, but you can't have everything.

Militarization of the police and private prisons. Yay, free market!

According to Wiki, "New York in 2000, enacted laws that ban the privatization of prisons, correctional facilities and any services related to their operation."

So, Yay for the stupidest statements I have read all day.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize the conversation was restricted to New York, a liberal bastion, if you will.

Welcome to the wild west. (new window)

Private prisons in Arizona are a scourge. The last report I read we are insourcing prisoners from states like Hawaii.

Why do you hate the free market?


I don't. But there is a line and certain things need oversight and accountability. Cutting costs by privatizing prisons and making them a profitable industry is fundamentally wrong.

What does this case in NYC have to do with the free market?
 
2012-02-23 09:46:45 PM  

violentsalvation: I don't. But there is a line and certain things need oversight and accountability.


Thank you.
 
2012-02-23 09:54:12 PM  
This already happened in New York, complete with the whistle blowing officer being falsely imprisoned in a mental facility.
Link (new window)
 
2012-02-23 09:54:23 PM  

djkutch: violentsalvation: I don't. But there is a line and certain things need oversight and accountability.

Thank you.


You are welcome?

So there are no private prisons in NY. The police are not a private force. These cops and corrections officers have the needed oversight in place, hopefully they will be found accountable for this.. This certainly isn't the free market's doing.
 
2012-02-23 10:00:17 PM  

violentsalvation: So there are no private prisons in NY. The police are not a private force. These cops and corrections officers have the needed oversight in place, hopefully they will be found accountable for this.. This certainly isn't the free market's doing.


Dude, it's people PROVIDING the oversight that are demanding the quotas! It runs from Kelly down.
 
2012-02-23 10:01:11 PM  

violentsalvation: So there are no private prisons in NY


I dunno. I was responding to your wiki a few comments up.

It looks like this: "According to Wiki, "New York in 2000, enacted laws that ban the privatization of prisons, correctional facilities and any services related to their operation."
 
2012-02-23 10:06:24 PM  
Quota$ are good for you, citizen.
 
2012-02-23 10:08:10 PM  

djkutch: Tigger: This is just the invisible hand of the free market doing its job.

Admittedly the 'job' in this case is farking everything a decent person stands for sideways, but you can't have everything.

Militarization of the police and private prisons. Yay, free market!


blog.zap2it.com

/stretch it like it's hot.
//Easier just to blame Bush
 
2012-02-23 10:09:54 PM  

djkutch: violentsalvation: So there are no private prisons in NY

I dunno. I was responding to your wiki a few comments up.

It looks like this: "According to Wiki, "New York in 2000, enacted laws that ban the privatization of prisons, correctional facilities and any services related to their operation."


The free market stole my cigarettes and ran off with your ability to have an honest conversation.
 
2012-02-23 10:52:11 PM  
Durr, FREE MARKETS!!! DUR!!!!

There have not been anything resembling free markets in this country in over a century at least.
 
2012-02-23 10:58:28 PM  
A heard a Chicago cop admit that they have ticket quotas. They're not official quotas in the sense that there's any paperwork or official record keeping, but their boss does indeed give quotas. If you don't meet them you're hauled into the office to discuss why.

He validated a stereotype/"common knowledge" though. Be most careful at the end and beginning of the month. That's when they're most likely to ticket you.
 
2012-02-23 10:58:50 PM  
There ain't no butthurt like cop butthurt

/hope they all get their daily quota of assrapes while in prison
 
2012-02-23 11:00:14 PM  

violentsalvation: . These cops and corrections officers have the needed oversight in place, hopefully they will be found accountable for this


Cops found accountable? Hahahahahahahhahahaahahhaahhahahaahahahaha!!!

/oh, were you serious?
 
2012-02-23 11:00:17 PM  
I resent that these are quotas, they are illegal.

However if officers are given performance expectations, then that is the right of the police dept.

If the performance expectations are to provide X number of arrests in these specific crime designations, anything that looks like a quote is regrettable.

We wonder why people are starting to hate police. Maybe it is because fighting crime is no longer a priority, but meeting performance expectations is. They want bureaucrats willing to jump through hoops.

If you tell people that you have to make a phone call an average of X minutes long in a call center, the representative will be sure to find a way to make those numbers work even if it shorts a question. Police will find a way to use social cheats to make sure those numbers get met. And people will learn to hate police.

/What is my point, I don't know.

//Schoolcraft and 81st NY.
 
2012-02-23 11:00:19 PM  
If this comes as a shock to you, read or watch: Slavery by Another Name
 
2012-02-23 11:02:05 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

Pfft.
 
2012-02-23 11:03:43 PM  

Bunnyhat: Sooooo, because one guy tells you what you want to believe with zero evidence, then it's true. But if 1000s tell you there is no such thing then it's a giant conspiracy?


Hmmm... Who do I believe? The decorated officer, or the internet blowhard?

/decisions, decisions...
//the majority are always fine with the status quo
///always
 
2012-02-23 11:06:11 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: A heard a Chicago cop admit that they have ticket quotas. They're not official quotas in the sense that there's any paperwork or official record keeping, but their boss does indeed give quotas. If you don't meet them you're hauled into the office to discuss why.

He validated a stereotype/"common knowledge" though. Be most careful at the end and beginning of the month. That's when they're most likely to ticket you.


I drive for a living, so when I start seeing 400% police presence (or more) on the roads, I always check the calendar. For some reason it always seems to be exactly 7 days prior to the last day of the month...

But there's nothing untoward happening. Nothing at all.
 
2012-02-23 11:06:18 PM  
This has probably been true for a long time.
 
2012-02-23 11:06:40 PM  

lilplatinum: violentsalvation: . These cops and corrections officers have the needed oversight in place, hopefully they will be found accountable for this

Cops found accountable? Hahahahahahahhahahaahahhaahhahahaahahahaha!!!

/oh, were you serious?


Good point.
 
2012-02-23 11:07:41 PM  
I hope so. With all the bad shiat going on, there's no reason not to ensure that cops are doing their jobs. Without a quota, cops could drive around all day chilling and not make any stops.
 
2012-02-23 11:12:01 PM  
Police forces don't have official quotas. In general. This case is quite an exception. They do have unofficial quotas, to show you are doing your work instead of just hanging out and slacking off. Mainly traffic ticket "quotas".

How many times have you seen two cop cars sitting in a parking lot. Yup slacking off together. Same as any other job, when there's minimal supervision or poor supervision, workers will slack off. Ticket quotas are a poor way, but which supervisor likes to physically go around busting cops anyway.
 
2012-02-23 11:12:30 PM  
So, how long before this guy is murdered commits suicide via multiple gunshot wounds to the back?
 
2012-02-23 11:15:01 PM  
Everyone is totally shocked except those of us who are/were cops and have known this all the time and have told you this repeatedly and been ignored because we're just cop-apologists or whatever and so nobody listens to us.

Because I've said this on more than one occasion, and usually nobody pays the slightest heed; probably because it doesn't square with the accepted cop-hate required here on Fark. Cops have to meet their quotas or lose their jobs, so yeah, they bust people for borderline things sometimes. But that means that they might not be the fascist thugs everyone wants them to be, so it can't POSSIBLY be true, right?
 
2012-02-23 11:15:12 PM  
If no quota why are all the cops out on the roads the first pretty day of the month? Get the tix in early, beat the rush
 
2012-02-23 11:15:59 PM  
I am watching the movie "The Choirboys" now and getting a laugh out of the responses.
 
2012-02-23 11:17:49 PM  
No? Seriously? Go on! Chow for the maw, badge kissers. Chow for the maw. Welcome to the crime industry.
 
2012-02-23 11:18:09 PM  

Kuroshin: CtrlAltDestroy: A heard a Chicago cop admit that they have ticket quotas. They're not official quotas in the sense that there's any paperwork or official record keeping, but their boss does indeed give quotas. If you don't meet them you're hauled into the office to discuss why.

He validated a stereotype/"common knowledge" though. Be most careful at the end and beginning of the month. That's when they're most likely to ticket you.

I drive for a living, so when I start seeing 400% police presence (or more) on the roads, I always check the calendar. For some reason it always seems to be exactly 7 days prior to the last day of the month...

But there's nothing untoward happening. Nothing at all.


Look, if a cop gets $50,000 a year, he better be out there writing $100,000 worth of tickets. Otherwise he's just serving and protecting, eating up revenue that could be used to redecorate my office and give my chaffeur a new limo.

And children getting better schools. Yeah, think of the children, for God's sake.
 
2012-02-23 11:24:40 PM  
They're union....so whos setting the quotas and how do you fire them for not meeting quota?

Whats the punishment? Sending them to the shiatty part of town? They're cops they should be there anyway, even poor people don't want to get mugged on the way home.


I've heard about ticket quotas which makes sense cause its revenue, but never arrest quotas which would cost the government money for trials and the costs of storing inmates.
 
2012-02-23 11:25:09 PM  
Cop friend of mine told me they are never called "quotas". They are called incentives. That way when they are accused of trying to meet said quota they can tell you with a straight face that there is no such thing.
 
2012-02-23 11:25:26 PM  
Dear LEO.

It is the greatest hope that you some day find your dignity and do what it says on the label.

Seriously.

The entire f*cking population of the USA that isn't LEO
 
2012-02-23 11:27:40 PM  
The sheriff's department I work for does not have a single quota. In fact, we have a deputy who is lazy as shiat and prolly wrote a total of 4 tickets in 2011 and maybe made 2 arrests in the same year. Our department only has 5 deputies and 1 Sheriff, though. The Illinois State Police doesn't even have a "quota" in the normal sense. They do have to make 10 "contacts" which could mean 10 warnings or 10 tickets a day, at least in my district.
 
2012-02-23 11:27:57 PM  
The NYPD's top spokesman, Paul Browne, denied the allegations.

Why the word of any NYPD brass holds any weight after the Bed-Stuy tapes (new window) came out is beyond me.
 
2012-02-23 11:29:26 PM  

Giltric: They're union....so whos setting the quotas and how do you fire them for not meeting quota?

Whats the punishment? Sending them to the shiatty part of town? They're cops they should be there anyway, even poor people don't want to get mugged on the way home.


I've heard about ticket quotas which makes sense cause its revenue, but never arrest quotas which would cost the government money for trials and the costs of storing inmates.


Apparently, you think the union is somehow not beneath, politically, adjunct to or beholding to the thin blue line. It is.
 
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