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2012-02-23 11:28:34 AM
Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?
 
2012-02-23 11:40:50 AM
Redhead, man.
 
2012-02-23 11:42:10 AM

Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?


Scottish, you dipshiat
 
2012-02-23 11:46:00 AM
"Brave" looks pretty good.

This is how computer animation should be used, not with talking cars or farking farm animals acting like humans.
 
2012-02-23 11:48:09 AM

capitulating fromage masticating simian: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Scottish, you dipshiat


Sorry, drunk Scots. Is this what is exciting them, because of the Scottish setting?
 
2012-02-23 11:48:20 AM

capitulating fromage masticating simian: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Scottish, you dipshiat dolt


FTFFark memes.
 
2012-02-23 11:48:40 AM
Subby is absolutely right, because on June 8th, I am going to see this! (new window)
 
2012-02-23 12:04:11 PM

Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?


Old and busted: Hating something because it's popular.

New hotness: Being apathetic to something because it's popular.
 
2012-02-23 12:07:16 PM

MadCat221: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Old and busted: Hating something because it's popular.

New hotness: Being apathetic to something because it's popular.


Actual Truth: Being apathetic to something because it seems kinda meh.

People that think all feeling about something are based on their popularity are true morons
 
2012-02-23 12:08:18 PM
I know that Pixar movies are for kids and all, but at least they appeal to adults as well. This one...not so much.
 
2012-02-23 12:11:13 PM

MadCat221: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Old and busted: Hating something because it's popular.

New hotness: Being apathetic to something because it's popular.


I'm trying to understand why this film is being so anticipated. From the first scene, I'm not seeing it. The opening of "Up" was fantastic. This...not so much. This is closer to the level of a Dreamworks picture.

Yes, I know that seemed overly harsh.
 
2012-02-23 12:14:51 PM
Pixar makes great movies, are innovators and clearly are a team of creative geniuses...

That being said, watching this makes feel picky about the quality of the humans. Not quite like Andy from Toy Story, but similar. The girl in Brave stands out as more human-like because of her hair. I don't know what it is; maybe I've seen better and/or am expecting more...but I can't block out this perception.

/I'm sure once watching it as a whole story it will be entertaining, just because it's Pixar
 
2012-02-23 12:14:57 PM
So, How to train your dragon, without dragons? Sorry, Pixar hasn't made the best CGI movie in several years, and in 2011 made the worst one. They've now gone down the road of copying other studios, and sequels. And the only sequel people want, Incredibles 2, they won't do without Brad Bird, who is now making live action.
 
2012-02-23 12:15:19 PM
While I still enjoy it at the moment, I wonder how much longer the 'arrow splitting another arrow' trope is gonna stick around.
 
2012-02-23 12:17:17 PM

Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?


Show me an Irishman that's not drunk
 
2012-02-23 12:19:01 PM

Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?


Must be. I'll see it when it hits DVD because it's Pixar and because of the setting. We've all seen the story about a million times now though.
 
2012-02-23 12:21:46 PM

INeedAName: Subby is absolutely right, because on June 8th, I am going to see this! (new window)


I know I am going to get flamed for this, but Prometheus isn't really calling out to me. But then again, I have never been a big sci-fi fan. I am much more looking forward to Brave.

/Well, what I'm really looking forward to The Avengers
//but that is a whole different thread
 
2012-02-23 12:21:59 PM
looks like a typical Disney princess movie:

Princess? check

Headstrong? check

Flaunting convention against her father's wishes to escape the locked-away girl life? Check

Mother is alive? Wha?

I guess that's what makes it a Pixar movie.
 
2012-02-23 12:23:04 PM

Phaeon: While I still enjoy it at the moment, I wonder how much longer the 'arrow splitting another arrow' trope is gonna stick around.


From what I gather it's been a part of storytelling for about 600 years at least., so it'll probably be around for a good deal longer.

/i have no problem with it
 
2012-02-23 12:29:31 PM
Lando Lincoln

MadCat221: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Old and busted: Hating something because it's popular.

New hotness: Being apathetic to something because it's popular.

I'm trying to understand why this film is being so anticipated. From the first scene, I'm not seeing it. The opening of "Up" was fantastic. This...not so much. This is closer to the level of a Dreamworks picture.

Yes, I know that seemed overly harsh.


The opening of "Up" was great, the rest was slightly above "meh." I'd say that it absolutely didn't deserve an Oscar best picture nomination, but then most of them don't since moving to the 9, 10, 12, whatever the hell ridiculous number of nominees we get for that category are now.

Have they even attempted to explain why that particular category gets so many? Other than the obvious "if we nominate a movie it makes more money, and we love money!" I mean. It can't be the quality, because tons of them are one step (or no steps) above mediocre.
 
2012-02-23 12:30:33 PM

Critch: So, How to train your dragon, without dragons? Sorry, Pixar hasn't made the best CGI movie in several years, and in 2011 made the worst one. They've now gone down the road of copying other studios, and sequels. And the only sequel people want, Incredibles 2, they won't do without Brad Bird, who is now making live action.


Good, good, let the butthurt flow through you.

In all seriousness, if you thought Cars 2(which I saw, and thought was OK), was the worst CGI film of 2011, you missed Gnomeo & Juliet(saw enough of it to realize how stupid it is), Hoodwinked Too: Hood vs. Evil(saw the first one, there was no need for a sequel), and Happy Feet Too(did this really need a sequel?). Also, Cars 2 was the #10 grossing film of the YEAR, though admittedly not the top grossing CGI film, only the third. The top grossing CGI film was Kung-Fu Panda 2, followed by The Smurfs(how the hell did this out-gross a Pixar film?).

Also, Brave doesn't quite remind me of How To Train Your Dragon, really. And I love that you complain that Pixar is making sequels, and in the next sentence say "And the only sequel people want". So Pixar can't make sequels, unless their the ones YOU think the people want?

John Lasseter stated in an interview about Toy Story 2, "We decided we wouldn't do a sequel, unless we thought we had a really good story to tell". So far, at least in this movie watchers opinion, they've stuck to their guns(yes, I thought Toy Story 3 was good. Just please, no more).
 
2012-02-23 12:33:54 PM

capitulating fromage masticating simian: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Scottish, you dipshiat


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2012-02-23 12:35:24 PM
I would hope the movie will be a bit more complex than just headstrong girl who doesn't like her position. Also, the scene is kinda out of place. You have a bunch of slap stick comedy and then a very serious moment. It is either a poorly made scene (unlikely) or we are missing a lot in between.

Also, it does not seem like she is going against her father but against her mother. The father seems all for her to go out on her own since they are both making fun of the archers that are trying to win her hand.
 
2012-02-23 12:39:51 PM

Lando Lincoln: This is closer to the level of a Dreamworks picture.


Though I'm willing to bet the movie is probably better than what was shown, it did kind of look Dreamworks-esque.

WayToBlue: The opening of "Up" was great, the rest was slightly above "meh."




I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this. The first 10 minutes or so of Up is great... but the rest is just pretty good. You'll notice how no one ever talks about anything but the first 10 minutes of the film.
 
2012-02-23 12:44:59 PM
Isn't this scene a ripoff from that Robin Hood furry movie?
 
2012-02-23 12:51:14 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Lando Lincoln: This is closer to the level of a Dreamworks picture.

Though I'm willing to bet the movie is probably better than what was shown, it did kind of look Dreamworks-esque.

WayToBlue: The opening of "Up" was great, the rest was slightly above "meh."

I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this. The first 10 minutes or so of Up is great... but the rest is just pretty good. You'll notice how no one ever talks about anything but the first 10 minutes of the film.


No, I liked the whole film. It was quirky, but very enjoyable.
 
2012-02-23 12:52:56 PM
oh, and she looks a little bit too much like Jane. Especially the poofy red hair.

www.smh.com.au
 
2012-02-23 12:53:31 PM
The animation looks great but I'm not sold on the story.
 
2012-02-23 12:54:54 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Lando Lincoln: This is closer to the level of a Dreamworks picture.

Though I'm willing to bet the movie is probably better than what was shown, it did kind of look Dreamworks-esque.

WayToBlue: The opening of "Up" was great, the rest was slightly above "meh."



I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this. The first 10 minutes or so of Up is great... but the rest is just pretty good. You'll notice how no one ever talks about anything but the first 10 minutes of the film.


Dug appears in the first 10 minutes of the film?
 
2012-02-23 12:57:20 PM

9beers: The animation looks great but I'm not sold on the story.


I don't think Pixar's ever made a trailer that really gave away all the major driving plot points of the story...I think they like to have people come in and be (hopefully pleasantly) surprised to some degree.
 
2012-02-23 12:57:23 PM

MadCat221: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Old and busted: Hating something because it's popular.

New hotness: Being apathetic to something because it's popular.


Fark has done the "being apathetic to something because it's popular" to death.

New Hotness: I have seen 2 minutes of a film and can now pass judgement.


Hell, that's been done to death on here too. I can't remember which movie it was, but a couple of years ago there were Farkers who reviewed a movie based solely on its poster. Sadly, they were entirely serious about it.
 
2012-02-23 01:01:42 PM
Beautiful arrow physics on that last release.
 
2012-02-23 01:03:50 PM
How to Train your Dragon + Coraline = This

I'll still watch it though, but it must be said, Deramworks surpassed Pixar years ago. Even Tangled was better than UP, and that was Disney in-house
 
2012-02-23 01:04:03 PM

ActionJoe: I would hope the movie will be a bit more complex than just headstrong girl who doesn't like her position. Also, the scene is kinda out of place. You have a bunch of slap stick comedy and then a very serious moment. It is either a poorly made scene (unlikely) or we are missing a lot in between.

Also, it does not seem like she is going against her father but against her mother. The father seems all for her to go out on her own since they are both making fun of the archers that are trying to win her hand.


That's the rub.

Personally, I've been looking forward to this movie for a while, simply because finding anything in the media (film, tv, video games, books) with a kickass female lead that isn't hackneyed bullshiat (it's still really about rebellion and a boy, and that's all that motivates girls, right folks?) is still tough. I can count the examples that fit the bill on my fingers, and there's a decent number from Pixar, so I'm hopeful.

I'm not an angry feminist or anything, but I like to support it when it shows up. And frankly, aside from Cars 2 (which is plainly a money grab, given that Cars merch supplanted Hot Wheels in the boy's car toys market years ago, wasn't a surprise) Pixar has always pleasantly surprised me. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to this, and odds are I won't be disappointed.
 
2012-02-23 01:06:18 PM
Y'all can hate on the "girl power" thing. But the whole "I'll be shooting for my own hand!" thing gives me hope that we can recover from "Twilight".

/wants every little girl watching this to remember that moment if she has to choose between a boy and her own wants and needs
//baby steps, people
 
2012-02-23 01:06:47 PM

stainedglassdoll: I don't think Pixar's ever made a trailer that really gave away all the major driving plot points of the story...I think they like to have people come in and be (hopefully pleasantly) surprised to some degree.


Pixar's never made a trailer that made me wonder what the appeal of the movie is either. Until now.
 
2012-02-23 01:07:36 PM
The animation isn't the same, but the story is better.
Link (new window)
 
2012-02-23 01:07:47 PM

capitulating fromage masticating simian: MadCat221: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Old and busted: Hating something because it's popular.

New hotness: Being apathetic to something because it's popular.

Actual Truth: Being apathetic to something because it seems kinda meh.

People that think all feeling about something are based on their popularity are true morons


Real Truth: Being apathetic about everything, because life sucks, it has always sucked, and if you were not a coward you would have blown your farking brains out years ago.
 
2012-02-23 01:10:07 PM

Lando Lincoln: stainedglassdoll: I don't think Pixar's ever made a trailer that really gave away all the major driving plot points of the story...I think they like to have people come in and be (hopefully pleasantly) surprised to some degree.

Pixar's never made a trailer that made me wonder what the appeal of the movie is either. Until now.


Really?

No, really? Because Up's was just balloons. But then, maybe you're one of those latexphiles. In which case, I stand down.
 
2012-02-23 01:11:43 PM
Who's June? Is she hot?
 
2012-02-23 01:11:54 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Real Truth: Being apathetic about everything, because life sucks, it has always sucked, and if you were not a coward you would have blown your farking brains out years ago.


Wow. We went from, "I'm not seeing the allure of this movie" to "I would have killed myself long ago, but I don't have the guts to do it" in a really short time. Good work, Farkers! We're getting really efficient at this stuff.
 
2012-02-23 01:13:19 PM
Looks like something I'll end up taking all the friends' kids to, but I am way more excited about Wreck it Ralph.
 
2012-02-23 01:16:05 PM

Lando Lincoln: stainedglassdoll: I don't think Pixar's ever made a trailer that really gave away all the major driving plot points of the story...I think they like to have people come in and be (hopefully pleasantly) surprised to some degree.

Pixar's never made a trailer that made me wonder what the appeal of the movie is either. Until now.


*shrug* Maybe you're not the target audience this time. I know most women and girls are very excited to see it, myself included.
 
2012-02-23 01:16:09 PM

Stantz: How to Train your Dragon + Coraline = This

I'll still watch it though, but it must be said, Deramworks surpassed Pixar years ago. Even Tangled was better than UP, and that was Disney in-house


I have a deram?

I do sorta agree with you, though. Up was very good (and then got lost in the weeds somewhere between the beginning and end of the movie), but Tangled was something the kids will sit and watch and enjoy. Wall-E was only worthwhile because of the animated robots, and nothing else... it was pretty much garbage. My kids also love Miyazaki, Fraggle Rock, even the Harmony Gold Robotech shows. It's not that we hate animated stuff, or "kids entertainment", or whatever. I just think Pixar movies are overrated lately... except for Toy Story 3, I guess.

/I even liked Cars, and I have refused to watch Cars 2.
 
2012-02-23 01:17:03 PM
Make with "The Incredibles part 2" already.
 
2012-02-23 01:17:48 PM

T.rex: Who's June? Is she hot?


No, no, you're looking for a "June can't come soon enough" headline.

/Just like Bunker Hill
//Gotta hold that fire until the time is right.
 
2012-02-23 01:19:14 PM

Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: New Hotness: I have seen 2 minutes of a film and can now pass judgement.


How is this new? That's what trailers are FOR.

I know, personally, after a two-minute trailer, that I don't want to see a movie of Will Smith swaggering. Or Adam Sandler in drag. Or that I HAD to see Inception in the theater.

stainedglassdoll: I don't think Pixar's ever made a trailer that really gave away all the major driving plot points of the story...I think they like to have people come in and be (hopefully pleasantly) surprised to some degree.


Meh, I'll say it before and I'll say it again: Pixar hasn't ever really done a movie that hasn't had a predictable plot line once you've started putting the tropes together. It isn't that Pixar can't tell a good story (they can), they just never tell any particularly original ones.

Their mastery comes from writing, spot-on casting, and the kind of visuals that movies were made for.

minorshan: Personally, I've been looking forward to this movie for a while, simply because finding anything in the media (film, tv, video games, books) with a kickass female lead that isn't hackneyed bullshiat (it's still really about rebellion and a boy, and that's all that motivates girls, right folks?) is still tough. I can count the examples that fit the bill on my fingers, and there's a decent number from Pixar, so I'm hopeful.

I'm not an angry feminist or anything, but I like to support it when it shows up. And frankly, aside from Cars 2 (which is plainly a money grab, given that Cars merch supplanted Hot Wheels in the boy's car toys market years ago, wasn't a surprise) Pixar has always pleasantly surprised me. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to this, and odds are I won't be disappointed.


You and I are on the same page. Yep, it's about rebellion and boys, but on the other hand, when you're dealing with a period piece, you don't exactly have a lot of wiggle-room before you stretch suspension of disbelief too far (where does her motivation come from? To not have to marry a loser; what else would she have to rebel against so strongly?). So, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this.
 
2012-02-23 01:20:34 PM

minorshan: Really?

No, really? Because Up's was just balloons. But then, maybe you're one of those latexphiles. In which case, I stand down.


The trailer I saw was about a curmudgeony old man and a little boy scout. And the old man decides to tie thousands of balloons to his house and fly away. And the little boy scout gets stuck on his porch while they're flying.

I knew it was going to be quirky but fun, and I was right.
 
2012-02-23 01:22:43 PM

stainedglassdoll: *shrug* Maybe you're not the target audience this time. I know most women and girls are very excited to see it, myself included.


Okay, that makes sense. Women / girls being intrigued about the idea of a girl winning her own hand in marriage (independence). I can see that.
 
2012-02-23 01:22:47 PM
Count me among the meh votes. You expect something original out of Pixar, but this looks like a typical Disney princess movie. I hope this isn't a sign that Disney is starting to force Pixar to make more "marketable" movies.
 
2012-02-23 01:24:23 PM

Copperbelly watersnake: Count me among the meh votes


That's how I felt about The Incredibles based on the advanced trailers. Then I saw it and it was weapons grade awesome!

/so ya never know
 
2012-02-23 01:25:10 PM
This seems a departure for Pixar. Instead of a good story, it's gonna be an hour and a half of... grr I can do it because I'm a girl?

That's pretty shallow.
 
2012-02-23 01:26:54 PM

Lando Lincoln: minorshan: Really?

No, really? Because Up's was just balloons. But then, maybe you're one of those latexphiles. In which case, I stand down.

The trailer I saw was about a curmudgeony old man and a little boy scout. And the old man decides to tie thousands of balloons to his house and fly away. And the little boy scout gets stuck on his porch while they're flying.

I knew it was going to be quirky but fun, and I was right.


I think Nathan Fillion said it best when he said if your date doesn't cry in the first five minutes of Up just break up with them.
 
2012-02-23 01:29:18 PM

Six_By_Nine: Will Smith swaggering. Or Adam Sandler in drag.


Well, I guess my argument is dismantled, since you made me have flashbacks to Wild, Wild West and every Adam Sandler movie made in the last decade. Just seeing Adam Sandler is enough--I don't need to see him in drag to know he's made yet another horrific piece of cinema.
 
2012-02-23 01:30:56 PM
Classic Irishman's dilemma: Do I eat the potato now or wait for it to ferment?
 
2012-02-23 01:31:37 PM

stainedglassdoll: 9beers: The animation looks great but I'm not sold on the story.

I don't think Pixar's ever made a trailer that really gave away all the major driving plot points of the story...I think they like to have people come in and be (hopefully pleasantly) surprised to some degree.


I agree. They're very good at giving you a little bit, but without giving too much away at all. I've never really gone into a Pixar movie knowing what the plot of the movie is. To me, Cars is the biggest example of it. It's not my favorite Pixar flick, but its trailer definitely left me thinking, "NASCAR movie? Really?" When I finally saw it, I was pleasantly surprised to find a cute story and much more to the movie than just NASCAR-esque crap (Doc Hollywood yadda yadda).

Meanwhile, any trailer for a Dreamworks film pretty much lays it all out for you in a 30 spot. I knew from the first commercial that most of the jokes and plot of Kung Fu Panda were going to be "fat panda learns to do karate against the odds and saves the day."

And if Pixar has to make things like Cars and Cars 2 so they can make something more adventurous like Wall-E and Up, I'm for it.
 
2012-02-23 01:36:41 PM

Crewmannumber6: Copperbelly watersnake: Count me among the meh votes

That's how I felt about The Incredibles based on the advanced trailers. Then I saw it and it was weapons grade awesome!

/so ya never know


I hope I'm wrong, but the plot just looked tired to me.
 
2012-02-23 01:44:52 PM

Stantz: How to Train your Dragon + Coraline = This

I'll still watch it though, but it must be said, Deramworks surpassed Pixar years ago. Even Tangled was better than UP, and that was Disney in-house


notsureifserious.jpg
 
2012-02-23 01:47:58 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing this movie. That said, I'm forced to agree with the "It looks like How to Train Your Dragon without the dragons" comment.
 
2012-02-23 01:51:13 PM

chewielouie: Stantz: How to Train your Dragon + Coraline = This

I'll still watch it though, but it must be said, Deramworks surpassed Pixar years ago. Even Tangled was better than UP, and that was Disney in-house

notsureifserious.jpg


not serious about Deram. Serious about t'other thang
 
2012-02-23 01:52:10 PM
FeedTheCollapse: Lando Lincoln: This is closer to the level of a Dreamworks picture.

Though I'm willing to bet the movie is probably better than what was shown, it did kind of look Dreamworks-esque.

WayToBlue: The opening of "Up" was great, the rest was slightly above "meh."



I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this. The first 10 minutes or so of Up is great... but the rest is just pretty good. You'll notice how no one ever talks about anything but the first 10 minutes of the film.


"Up" was over 10 minutes long?
 
2012-02-23 01:53:33 PM

Six_By_Nine: Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: New Hotness: I have seen 2 minutes of a film and can now pass judgement.

minorshan:

You and I are on the same page. Yep, it's about rebellion and boys, but on the other hand, when you're dealing with a period piece, you don't exactly have a lot of wiggle-room before you stretch suspension of disbelief too far (where does her ...


Same page, sort of. I actually think it's not about rebellion and boys. Fighting for your rights/self isn't rebellion, but that aside, I don't think that's what this movie is about anyway. I could be wrong, but from what I've read, it's taking that trope and turning it on it's head. We'll see, but I have high hopes.

Regarding whoever said the plot looks tired - like I said, from what I've read (granted years ago, and fairly vague) the direction they were planning was not. Every plot is tired if you over examine things. That's why TV Tropes is a dangerous website. I enjoy pulling the curtain back as much as anyone else, but the next step is letting yourself enjoy the magic show for the skill it takes to pull off a trick, even when you know how said trick is done.
 
2012-02-23 01:56:35 PM

minorshan: Six_By_Nine: Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: New Hotness: I have seen 2 minutes of a film and can now pass judgement.

minorshan:

You and I are on the same page. Yep, it's about rebellion and boys, but on the other hand, when you're dealing with a period piece, you don't exactly have a lot of wiggle-room before you stretch suspension of disbelief too far (where does her ...

Same page, sort of. I actually think it's not about rebellion and boys. Fighting for your rights/self isn't rebellion, but that aside, I don't think that's what this movie is about anyway. I could be wrong, but from what I've read, it's taking that trope and turning it on it's head. We'll see, but I have high hopes.

Regarding whoever said the plot looks tired - like I said, from what I've read (granted years ago, and fairly vague) the direction they were planning was not. Every plot is tired if you over examine things. That's why TV Tropes is a dangerous website. I enjoy pulling the curtain back as much as anyone else, but the next step is letting yourself enjoy the magic show for the skill it takes to pull off a trick, even when you know how said trick is done.


The movie is about Mothers and Daughters. The mom gets turned into a bear and she has to save her.
 
2012-02-23 02:04:55 PM

Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: MadCat221: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Old and busted: Hating something because it's popular.

New hotness: Being apathetic to something because it's popular.

Fark has done the "being apathetic to something because it's popular" to death.

New Hotness: I have seen 2 minutes of a film and can now pass judgement.


Hell, that's been done to death on here too. I can't remember which movie it was, but a couple of years ago there were Farkers who reviewed a movie based solely on its poster. Sadly, they were entirely serious about it.


My favorite was when a bunch of them condemned the new Batman movie from a photoshop of Anne Hathaway. That still makes me smile.
 
2012-02-23 02:06:31 PM
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Laughs at her shenanigans
 
2012-02-23 02:09:33 PM
Felt 'meh' about Up. Then I saw it.
Felt 'meh' about Downton Abbey. Then I saw it.
Felt 'meh' about The Wire. Then I saw it.

Don't go discounting something til you actually 'see' it .
 
2012-02-23 02:18:21 PM

FiendishFellow05: Critch: John Lasseter stated in an interview about Toy Story 2, "We decided we wouldn't do a sequel, unless we thought we had a really good story to tell". So far, at least in this movie watchers opinion, they've stuck to their guns(yes, I thought Toy Story 3 was good. Just please, no more).


I'm pretty sure the sequal was partly to get out of the fairly costly disney contract with the minimum of Disney owned characters/stories. Pixar's deal with Disney terminated before Cars was released and Disney wouldn't have owned the characters. (Disney ended up merging with them to keep something)
 
2012-02-23 02:19:20 PM

Fish in a Barrel: Beautiful arrow physics on that last release.


Yep. They got the Archer's Paradox *RIGHT*. I'm impressed. Looks like a movie the littlebopper and I would enjoy.
 
2012-02-23 02:22:59 PM
Movie looks awesome.

You all sound like this guy:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-02-23 02:24:19 PM

dittybopper: Fish in a Barrel: Beautiful arrow physics on that last release.

Yep. They got the Archer's Paradox *RIGHT*. I'm impressed. Looks like a movie the littlebopper and I would enjoy.


I don't particularly care what type of movies you and your penis enjoy, TYVM.
 
2012-02-23 02:29:38 PM

WayToBlue: Have they even attempted to explain why that particular category gets so many? Other than the obvious "if we nominate a movie it makes more money, and we love money!" I mean. It can't be the quality, because tons of them are one step (or no steps) above mediocre.


Isn't it obvious? The whole thing is nothing more than the whole motion picture industry patting itself on the back anyway. Too many industry bigwigs get snubbed too often is bad for business. Not to mention the prevalent political party's "everybody gets a trophy" mentality.
 
2012-02-23 02:33:39 PM

Skyrmion: I'm looking forward to seeing this movie. That said, I'm forced to agree with the "It looks like How to Train Your Dragon without the dragons" comment.


I've never seen How to Train Your Dragon, but I'm gleaning from the thread that there is a red-headed bold female character. People generally don't complain about 90% of films: "Oh look, another movie with a blonde female/average american joe protagonist/quirky brunette set in a city/small town/etc. This movie B must be a ripoff of movie A." But two relatively closely released films with a similar setting and similar minority protagonist tends to draw this kind of critique. Not saying it isn't warranted, but it's interesting to me.

//would like to see more asian protagonists in non kung-fu movies :|
 
2012-02-23 02:38:38 PM

Johnsnownw: dittybopper: Fish in a Barrel: Beautiful arrow physics on that last release.

Yep. They got the Archer's Paradox *RIGHT*. I'm impressed. Looks like a movie the littlebopper and I would enjoy.

I don't particularly care what type of movies you and your penis enjoy, TYVM.


The littlebopper:

i40.tinypic.com
 
2012-02-23 02:46:22 PM
This movie has Disney all over it, it even looks like Tangled. Their culture is bearing down hard on Pixar now. I have to say Pixar's days are over as a powerhouse. The original staff that fought to not be Disney eventually sold out to dump trucks full of money plus they are much older and not spending 20 hours a day shooting for perfection. This is where Disney found its in and chance to 'fix' the animation and story. Pixar is now just a Disney animation studio with a name that people go for.
 
2012-02-23 02:46:26 PM
Internet Rule #34 in 3..2..1..

mlblogsfactofthematter.files.wordpress.com



LeroyBourne: Make with "The Incredibles part 2" already.


aaaand this.
 
2012-02-23 02:47:05 PM

Carth: I think Nathan Fillion said it best when he said if your date doesn't cry in the first five minutes of Up just break up with them.



I use it to determine if they have a soul.
 
2012-02-23 02:49:55 PM
My prediction: the Queen is a step-mother. How else are they going to justify the arrogance/ rebellion interplay we just witnessed? So, why would the Queen step-mother want to marry off the daughter to a loser on the simple stake of an arrow shot? Money: the real language of Hollywood, because it's the real language of America. Until the daughter gets married off, she's the heir apparent of a son-less king, no? So, the queen intends to off the drunken king and usurp the throne, and his daughter knows it. You can see there is no love lost between the two in the final glare they share.

Bank on it.
 
2012-02-23 02:50:28 PM
IT'S TWO F*CKING MINUTES OF THE MOVIE

I know this is the internet, and Welcome to Fark, and all that, but for chrissake,you're judging the entire movie based on a two minute clip??

Uff da...
 
2012-02-23 02:54:10 PM

Tax Boy: looks like a typical Disney princess movie:

Princess? check

Headstrong? check

Flaunting convention against her father's wishes to escape the locked-away girl life? Check

Mother is alive? Wha?

I guess that's what makes it a Pixar movie.


A typical Disney Princess has a "Prince" to save her and at least 3 songs to sing. If neither of those things happens -and we have no reason to suspect they will from the two trailers made so far- then that's what will set it apart.
 
2012-02-23 02:56:44 PM

Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?


Character design seems good, the personality of the protagonist seems engaging, and it appears from what little we've seen so far to be a unique take on a fantasy quest story. That's why I'm interested to see it. What exactly, other than the ethnicity of the cast, do you find off-putting?
 
2012-02-23 03:03:58 PM

chewielouie: FeedTheCollapse: Lando Lincoln: This is closer to the level of a Dreamworks picture.

Though I'm willing to bet the movie is probably better than what was shown, it did kind of look Dreamworks-esque.

WayToBlue: The opening of "Up" was great, the rest was slightly above "meh."



I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this. The first 10 minutes or so of Up is great... but the rest is just pretty good. You'll notice how no one ever talks about anything but the first 10 minutes of the film.

Dug appears in the first 10 minutes of the film?


fair enough, although I would counter-argue that 99% of any discussion related to Up is for the first 10 minutes.


there's a rather shocking amount of Dreamworks love in this thread. How to Train Your Dragon was good, but it is one movie and it certainly wasn't better than Toy Story 3, nor does it excuse the rest of Dreamworks rather awful movies.
 
2012-02-23 03:08:50 PM

Critch: So, How to train your dragon, without dragons? Sorry, Pixar hasn't made the best CGI movie in several years, and in 2011 made the worst one. They've now gone down the road of copying other studios, and sequels. And the only sequel people want, Incredibles 2, they won't do without Brad Bird, who is now making live action.


HtTYD: Main cast of 3 boys and 2 girls, learning to work as a team under the leadership of the Protagonist
Brave: Main cast of 1 Celtic girl intent on succeeded on her own

HtTYD: Male protagonist with distant father, no mother, and a gruff, disapproving, maimed, ex-military male mentor who just wants to fit in
Brave: A Female protagonist with a doting father, traditional mother, and (so far) no mentor at all who has no intention of fitting in if it means sacrificing who she is

HtTYD: A story of a young, ostracized boy learning how to use his unique talents to become accepted in conventional society, that violence is a worse approach than understanding, and that even the most monstrous individuals can have valid reasons for their actions.
Brave: A story of a young girl rebelling against social convention to live by her own lights who goes on some manner of quest.

HtTYD: Has dragons
Brave: No dragons (so far)

Yeah, you're right; they're totally the same movie.
 
2012-02-23 03:09:08 PM

stainedglassdoll: Skyrmion: I'm looking forward to seeing this movie. That said, I'm forced to agree with the "It looks like How to Train Your Dragon without the dragons" comment.

I've never seen How to Train Your Dragon, but I'm gleaning from the thread that there is a red-headed bold female character.


There isn't, although it is a coming-of-age movie with a young protagonist. Other than that, the comparison has more to do with apparent similarities in setting (replace pre-modern Scandinavia with pre-modern Scotland), art style, and style of humor.
 
2012-02-23 03:09:32 PM

capitulating fromage masticating simian: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Scottish, you dipshiat


Will there be English subtitles?
 
2012-02-23 03:12:15 PM

WayToBlue: Lando Lincoln

MadCat221: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Old and busted: Hating something because it's popular.

New hotness: Being apathetic to something because it's popular.

I'm trying to understand why this film is being so anticipated. From the first scene, I'm not seeing it. The opening of "Up" was fantastic. This...not so much. This is closer to the level of a Dreamworks picture.

Yes, I know that seemed overly harsh.

The opening of "Up" was great, the rest was slightly above "meh." I'd say that it absolutely didn't deserve an Oscar best picture nomination, but then most of them don't since moving to the 9, 10, 12, whatever the hell ridiculous number of nominees we get for that category are now.

Have they even attempted to explain why that particular category gets so many? Other than the obvious "if we nominate a movie it makes more money, and we love money!" I mean. It can't be the quality, because tons of them are one step (or no steps) above mediocre.


They want to shove all animated works into one category so they can give fewer awards to animated works because Hollywood considers them essentially "Non-serious". So, the same reason no one in Washington seems to listen to Paul Krugman or James Galbraith.
 
2012-02-23 03:12:28 PM

FeedTheCollapse: there's a rather shocking amount of Dreamworks love in this thread. How to Train Your Dragon was good, but it is one movie and it certainly wasn't better than Toy Story 3, nor does it excuse the rest of Dreamworks rather awful movies.


I loved Kung-Fu Panda. Not a deep film, but I thought it was just about perfect for the type of movie it was trying to be.
 
2012-02-23 03:12:45 PM

dittybopper: Fish in a Barrel: Beautiful arrow physics on that last release.

Yep. They got the Archer's Paradox *RIGHT*. I'm impressed. Looks like a movie the littlebopper and I would enjoy.



Yay! I was like, wtf is an archer's paradox thingy?This is why I love Fark. You can always learn new stuff amongst the flaming, trolling and lol cats.

Cheers dittybopper!
 
2012-02-23 03:13:38 PM

stainedglassdoll: Skyrmion: I'm looking forward to seeing this movie. That said, I'm forced to agree with the "It looks like How to Train Your Dragon without the dragons" comment.

I've never seen How to Train Your Dragon, but I'm gleaning from the thread that there is a red-headed bold female character. People generally don't complain about 90% of films: "Oh look, another movie with a blonde female/average american joe protagonist/quirky brunette set in a city/small town/etc. This movie B must be a ripoff of movie A." But two relatively closely released films with a similar setting and similar minority protagonist tends to draw this kind of critique. Not saying it isn't warranted, but it's interesting to me.

//would like to see more asian protagonists in non kung-fu movies :|


How To Train Your Dragon has a similar setting (medieval Europe), but a different protagonist (scrawny Viking boy). However, I suppose the comparisons are meant to be aimed toward "average children's movie with sappy ending and Middle Ages attire".

Personally, I'll be interested in seeing "Brave", although I'll probably have to see it in Spanish first due to the nature of Guatemalan theaters.
 
2012-02-23 03:15:40 PM

GreatGlavinsGhost: capitulating fromage masticating simian: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Scottish, you dipshiat

Will there be English subtitles?


Fark the English and their subtitles, bunch of effete arseholes. Ah don't hate da English, they're just wankers.
 
2012-02-23 03:15:43 PM

Skyrmion: stainedglassdoll: Skyrmion: I'm looking forward to seeing this movie. That said, I'm forced to agree with the "It looks like How to Train Your Dragon without the dragons" comment.

I've never seen How to Train Your Dragon, but I'm gleaning from the thread that there is a red-headed bold female character.

There isn't, although it is a coming-of-age movie with a young protagonist. Other than that, the comparison has more to do with apparent similarities in setting (replace pre-modern Scandinavia with pre-modern Scotland), art style, and style of humor.


My bad. Who was Ishkur referring to then, in that image he posted?
 
2012-02-23 03:17:24 PM

Ishkur: Isn't this scene a ripoff from that Robin Hood furry movie?


I don't think Robin was going to marry the winner, and besides, the whole "secret archery contestant showing up at the last moment to win the contest" is at least as old as the Odyssey and, unless you believe humans never told stories until the invention of writing, probably far, far older.
 
2012-02-23 03:18:13 PM
You people still watch movies? There has not been a good movie in years!

/I was into movies before they were popular.
 
2012-02-23 03:19:49 PM

GungFu: dittybopper: Fish in a Barrel: Beautiful arrow physics on that last release.

Yep. They got the Archer's Paradox *RIGHT*. I'm impressed. Looks like a movie the littlebopper and I would enjoy.


Yay! I was like, wtf is an archer's paradox thingy?This is why I love Fark. You can always learn new stuff amongst the flaming, trolling and lol cats.

Cheers dittybopper!


Archer's Paradox is very important to me:

img189.imageshack.us
 
2012-02-23 03:23:52 PM
that seemed like an historically accurate recounting of the period.
 
2012-02-23 03:27:21 PM
i7.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-23 03:32:04 PM

HAMMERTOE: My prediction: the Queen is a step-mother. How else are they going to justify the arrogance/ rebellion interplay we just witnessed? So, why would the Queen step-mother want to marry off the daughter to a loser on the simple stake of an arrow shot? Money: the real language of Hollywood, because it's the real language of America. Until the daughter gets married off, she's the heir apparent of a son-less king, no? So, the queen intends to off the drunken king and usurp the throne, and his daughter knows it. You can see there is no love lost between the two in the final glare they share.

Bank on it.


Nope. From what I've seen it looks to be the exact opposite of this.
 
2012-02-23 03:32:18 PM

HAMMERTOE: My prediction: the Queen is a step-mother. How else are they going to justify the arrogance/ rebellion interplay we just witnessed? So, why would the Queen step-mother want to marry off the daughter to a loser on the simple stake of an arrow shot? Money: the real language of Hollywood, because it's the real language of America. Until the daughter gets married off, she's the heir apparent of a son-less king, no? So, the queen intends to off the drunken king and usurp the throne, and his daughter knows it. You can see there is no love lost between the two in the final glare they share.

Bank on it.


Uh, no, but thanks for playing!

"Merida is a skilled archer and impetuous daughter of King Fergus (Billy Connolly) and Queen Elinor (Emma Thompson)."
 
2012-02-23 03:32:44 PM

Skyrmion: stainedglassdoll: Skyrmion: I'm looking forward to seeing this movie. That said, I'm forced to agree with the "It looks like How to Train Your Dragon without the dragons" comment.

I've never seen How to Train Your Dragon, but I'm gleaning from the thread that there is a red-headed bold female character.

There isn't, although it is a coming-of-age movie with a young protagonist. Other than that, the comparison has more to do with apparent similarities in setting (replace pre-modern Scandinavia with pre-modern Scotland), art style, and style of humor.


This, and the fact that for some inexplicable reason the makers of HtTYD decided to give some of the Vikings Scottish accents.
 
2012-02-23 03:33:24 PM

Phaeon: While I still enjoy it at the moment, I wonder how much longer the 'arrow splitting another arrow' trope is gonna stick around.


As someone who has done the modern bar equivalent (darts! woot!), I'm getting a kick, etc.
 
2012-02-23 03:39:05 PM
The movie is going to be really bad. Its cliched presentation reminded me of Tangled which was universally hated. Plus it is Pixar, a studio known for releasing garbage. I'm feeling pretty good about my judgment here. I've got lots of information to form a solid opinion.

/Will make the decision to see the movie based on reviews of the actual movie
 
2012-02-23 03:40:40 PM

zvoidx: Pixar makes great movies, are innovators and clearly are a team of creative geniuses...

That being said, watching this makes feel picky about the quality of the humans. Not quite like Andy from Toy Story, but similar. The girl in Brave stands out as more human-like because of her hair. I don't know what it is; maybe I've seen better and/or am expecting more...but I can't block out this perception.

/I'm sure once watching it as a whole story it will be entertaining, just because it's Pixar


There is a well known psychological phenomenon where if we see animated human characters on screen we are only comfortable if the are obviously cartoonish. Unbelievably life-like and even incredbily anthropomorphic is fine for animals and objects, but hyper-realistic animated humans just creep us out. It's why movies like "the Polar Express" and "Mars needs Mom" did so poorly at the box office
 
2012-02-23 03:46:48 PM

Carth: Lando Lincoln: minorshan: Really?

No, really? Because Up's was just balloons. But then, maybe you're one of those latexphiles. In which case, I stand down.

The trailer I saw was about a curmudgeony old man and a little boy scout. And the old man decides to tie thousands of balloons to his house and fly away. And the little boy scout gets stuck on his porch while they're flying.

I knew it was going to be quirky but fun, and I was right.

I think Nathan Fillion said it best when he said if your date doesn't cry in the first five minutes of Up just break up with them.


If you didn't look at your SO at the end of Up and vow to go "adventuring" with them, then you either don't have A) an SO or B) an S-O-U-L
 
2012-02-23 04:11:18 PM
A cut of 'up' which just includes the opening sequence and then the old man finding the rest of the book at the end would be an outstanding thing. Completely genuine and irresistible emotion in an animated sequence is remarkable.

The actual movie in the middle was pretty ordinary.
 
2012-02-23 04:13:03 PM

Phaeon: While I still enjoy it at the moment, I wonder how much longer the 'arrow splitting another arrow' trope is gonna stick around.


How many are left in your quiver?
 
2012-02-23 04:15:46 PM

Phaeon: While I still enjoy it at the moment, I wonder how much longer the 'arrow splitting another arrow' trope is gonna stick around.


Forever.

I've actually hit arrows with other arrows before, and it's a pain in the ass. Happens about once or twice a year, and if I'm *LUCKY* all it does if fark up the nock, which I can replace.
 
2012-02-23 04:19:45 PM

Elemental79: The movie is going to be really bad. Its cliched presentation reminded me of Tangled which was universally hated. Plus it is Pixar, a studio known for releasing garbage. I'm feeling pretty good about my judgment here. I've got lots of information to form a solid opinion.

/Will make the decision to see the movie based on reviews of the actual movie


Tangled was fun.

Up was fun.

Im sure there was a Pixar I hated, but I dont generally obsess about who makes the movies I enjoy with my kids.

The one thing I will never understand is why they waste money on celebrity voices. Even if they are worth the extra money by the time you make them use a scottish accent it may as well be role-gamers doing the voice overs.
 
2012-02-23 04:20:33 PM

Critch: Sorry, Pixar hasn't made the best CGI movie in several years


Dreamworks had a contender with Dragon, but TS3 was just better. Are you suggesting that Monsters vs Aliens was better than Up? That Kung Fu Panda or Madagascar 2 were better than Wall E? That Shrek 3 or Bee Movie were better than Ratatouille? That's crazy talk.

I'm surprised at the Dreamworks love here, considering the volume of crap they've produced in the past.
 
2012-02-23 04:21:59 PM

dittybopper: Yep. They got the Archer's Paradox *RIGHT*. I'm impressed. Looks like a movie the littlebopper and I would enjoy.


thats high praise
 
2012-02-23 04:23:39 PM

Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: MadCat221: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Old and busted: Hating something because it's popular.

New hotness: Being apathetic to something because it's popular.

Fark has done the "being apathetic to something because it's popular" to death.

New Hotness: I have seen 2 minutes of a film and can now pass judgement.


Hell, that's been done to death on here too. I can't remember which movie it was, but a couple of years ago there were Farkers who reviewed a movie based solely on its poster. Sadly, they were entirely serious about it.


Hell, check out any board or thread (or god forbid reddit, at all,anywhere) that remotely touches on Mass Effect 3s demo.

People have the whole 40+ hour game figured out down to the ounce from a chopped up hour long demo.
 
2012-02-23 04:24:18 PM

archichris: The one thing I will never understand is why they waste money on celebrity voices


I think that celebrity voices are fine IF the celebrity brings something unique to the voice. Just getting big names for the sake of it is almost always a disaster. Look at the cast for Shark Tale, Robots, Bee Movie, Over the Hedge, Monsters vs Aliens, Megamind, etc. I think that Kung Fu Panda is one of the few animated movies that has succeeded with such a famous cast.
 
2012-02-23 04:30:40 PM

INeedAName: Subby is absolutely right, because on June 8th, I am going to see this! (new window)


Prometheus thread!!
 
2012-02-23 04:41:32 PM

Magorn: There is a well known psychological phenomenon where if we see animated human characters on screen we are only comfortable if the are obviously cartoonish. Unbelievably life-like and even incredbily anthropomorphic is fine for animals and objects, but hyper-realistic animated humans just creep us out. It's why movies like "the Polar Express" and "Mars needs Mom" did so poorly at the box office


Not quite. You're referring to the uncanny valley. The problem isn't things that look exactly like humans. It's things that look almost exactly like humans, but miss some tiny detail, often behavioural. The problem is that a lot of our ability to recognize other humans is based on automatic and instinctive cues in movement and behaviour that operate without our conscious awareness, triggered in part by our mirror neurons. Bascially, we expect humans to act like humans in all ways. When something that looks mostly like a human doesn't behave in ways that match the cues we expect, this triggers the aversion response. The less obviously human it is, the less of an issue this is, because our abstract reasoning and imagination can see them as like humans without being humans.

The trick appears to be to match how closely something looks like a human and acts like a human. There is evidence from computer games that you can make a very lifelike CGI character be relatable and emotionally engaging without tripping the uncanny valley effect, which seems to operate in tandem with how lifelike they behave. More lifelike behaviour makes a more lifelike appearance relatable.
 
2012-02-23 04:51:25 PM

dittybopper: GungFu: dittybopper: Fish in a Barrel: Beautiful arrow physics on that last release.

Yep. They got the Archer's Paradox *RIGHT*. I'm impressed. Looks like a movie the littlebopper and I would enjoy.


Yay! I was like, wtf is an archer's paradox thingy?This is why I love Fark. You can always learn new stuff amongst the flaming, trolling and lol cats.

Cheers dittybopper!

Archer's Paradox is very important to me:

[img189.imageshack.us image 640x201]


A Pair you say? Looks like he's only holding one.

cdn.screenrant.com
 
2012-02-23 04:52:36 PM

stainedglassdoll: My bad. Who was Ishkur referring to then, in that image he posted?


Jane, from Jane and the Dragon.
 
2012-02-23 04:53:52 PM

KiltedBastich: Bascially, we expect humans to act like humans in all ways. When something that looks mostly like a human doesn't behave in ways that match the cues we expect, this triggers the aversion response.


I've also heard the theory that this ability developed as a way to spot humans who were ill. the subtle wrongness of their look and behavior causes our subconscious mind to assume they have ebola or some other such horror
 
2012-02-23 04:56:52 PM

stainedglassdoll: My bad. Who was Ishkur referring to then, in that image he posted?


I wasn't referring to HtTYD, I was referring to Jane and the Dragon, that Weta Workshop TV show about 6 or 7 years ago featuring yet another spunky, red-headed tomboy in a medieval setting who refuses to be a lady-in-waiting and strikes out on her own.

Only with a pet dragon.

images.zap2it.com

Seriously, I didn't think it was that obscure, not for Fark.
 
2012-02-23 05:02:29 PM

Magorn: There is a well known psychological phenomenon where if we see animated human characters on screen we are only comfortable if the are obviously cartoonish. Unbelievably life-like and even incredbily anthropomorphic is fine for animals and objects, but hyper-realistic animated humans just creep us out. It's why movies like "the Polar Express" and "Mars needs Mom" did so poorly at the box office


It's called the Uncanny Valley.

It basically works like: When something looks nowhere near human, we tend to notice its human-like qualities (the positives). When something looks almost completely human, we tend to notice its flaws (the negatives). For some reason, we focus on the small things -- if something is 98% human, it's the 2% that stands out as being wrong. If something is 2% human, it's the 2% that stands out as being right.
 
2012-02-23 05:09:48 PM

archichris: Elemental79: The movie is going to be really bad. Its cliched presentation reminded me of Tangled which was universally hated. Plus it is Pixar, a studio known for releasing garbage. I'm feeling pretty good about my judgment here. I've got lots of information to form a solid opinion.

/Will make the decision to see the movie based on reviews of the actual movie

Tangled was fun.

Up was fun.

Im sure there was a Pixar I hated, but I dont generally obsess about who makes the movies I enjoy with my kids.

The one thing I will never understand is why they waste money on celebrity voices. Even if they are worth the extra money by the time you make them use a scottish accent it may as well be role-gamers doing the voice overs.


Yeah, I can see how making Billy Connelly, Craig Ferguson, Kelly Macdonald, Kevin McKidd, etc. go through vocal coaching to get the Scottish accent right is just throwing money right out the window.
 
2012-02-23 05:10:41 PM
Fark I am Disappoint.

This could have been a Red-Head thread so easy; you miss the chance and drone on about "Make a good cartoon"
 
2012-02-23 05:10:52 PM

FeedTheCollapse: Lando Lincoln: This is closer to the level of a Dreamworks picture.

Though I'm willing to bet the movie is probably better than what was shown, it did kind of look Dreamworks-esque.

WayToBlue: The opening of "Up" was great, the rest was slightly above "meh."



I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking this. The first 10 minutes or so of Up is great... but the rest is just pretty good. You'll notice how no one ever talks about anything but the first 10 minutes of the film.


Just out of curiosity, I went to a seminar on how screenplays are written.

You have observed one of the rules of screenwriting. You have to totally grab the audience in the first 10 minutes.

This is why you have explosions and chase scenes at the very beginning of some of the big budget summer movies. (Explosions in spy movies, little Jimmy Kirk's driving his stepfather's car off a cliff, car chases, and so on.)
 
2012-02-23 05:10:52 PM

Ishkur: stainedglassdoll: My bad. Who was Ishkur referring to then, in that image he posted?

I wasn't referring to HtTYD, I was referring to Jane and the Dragon, that Weta Workshop TV show about 6 or 7 years ago featuring yet another spunky, red-headed tomboy in a medieval setting who refuses to be a lady-in-waiting and strikes out on her own.

Only with a pet dragon.

[images.zap2it.com image 360x270]

Seriously, I didn't think it was that obscure, not for Fark.


Skyrmion: stainedglassdoll: My bad. Who was Ishkur referring to then, in that image he posted?

Jane, from Jane and the Dragon.


Cool, thanks. My misunderstanding. :)
 
2012-02-23 05:27:55 PM
yeah put me in the "I fail to see why people are so excited about a farking cartoon" camp too


INeedAName: Subby is absolutely right, because on June 8th, I am going to see this! (new window)


you lost me on this, why would you be excited to see that? you do realize all the aliens and spaceships and crap in that movie are only make believe right? well let me remind you, they're not real! they don't exist in real life!
 
2012-02-23 05:29:59 PM

Cinaed: Felt 'meh' about Up. Then I saw it.
Felt 'meh' about Downton Abbey. Then I saw it.
Felt 'meh' about The Wire. Then I saw it.

Don't go discounting something til you actually 'see' it .


If I were you I'd stop discounting things, because you obviously suck at it. Other people (like me) are much better at it.
 
2012-02-23 05:37:31 PM

Heron: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Character design seems good, the personality of the protagonist seems engaging, and it appears from what little we've seen so far to be a unique take on a fantasy quest story. That's why I'm interested to see it. What exactly, other than the ethnicity of the cast, do you find off-putting?


Well...the idea of having an archery contest to win a fair maiden's hand, when it's obvious everybody in the village / region sucks at archery is kinda weird. Either they're all gay or don't want to marry a little girl and thus are intentionally trying not to win or nobody hunts with bows in that village / region.

The ethnicity was over the top for a Pixar film. That's usually Dreamworks territory to use ethnicity as a comedic crutch.
 
2012-02-23 05:39:00 PM

Imaginary Cheese Jedi: yeah put me in the "I fail to see why people are so excited about a farking cartoon" camp too


INeedAName: Subby is absolutely right, because on June 8th, I am going to see this! (new window)

you lost me on this, why would you be excited to see that? you do realize all the aliens and spaceships and crap in that movie are only make believe right? well let me remind you, they're not real! they don't exist in real life!


Yes, yes, another cinema snob.

Perhaps stories with unexplored lore excite me and I'm looking forward to see where things go. But y'know, keep bein an arse.
 
2012-02-23 06:13:38 PM

Imaginary Cheese Jedi: yeah put me in the "I fail to see why people are so excited about a farking cartoon" camp too


INeedAName: Subby is absolutely right, because on June 8th, I am going to see this! (new window)

you lost me on this, why would you be excited to see that? you do realize all the aliens and spaceships and crap in that movie are only make believe right? well let me remind you, they're not real! they don't exist in real life!


static.someecards.com
 
2012-02-23 06:23:40 PM
bgddy24601:

no one, I just don't see what's so great about "entertainment' that's composed of stories and situations that never actually happened
 
2012-02-23 06:35:41 PM
I will support anything Craig Ferguson does voice acting in.
 
2012-02-23 06:44:57 PM

GungFu: GreatGlavinsGhost: capitulating fromage masticating simian: Lando Lincoln: Eh...okay. I guess. Not sure why some people are so excited about this one. Are they all drunk Irish?

Scottish, you dipshiat

Will there be English subtitles?

Fark the English and their subtitles, bunch of effete arseholes. Ah don't hate da English, they're just wankers.


You're speaking Scottish, aren't you?

Can't understand a single word you posted. Maybe if you post slower and/or louder?

/Oblig (new window)
 
2012-02-23 06:59:53 PM

Imaginary Cheese Jedi: I just don't see what's so great about "entertainment' that's composed of stories and situations that never actually happened


So...95% of "entertainment"?
 
2012-02-23 07:01:19 PM

bgddy24601: Imaginary Cheese Jedi: I just don't see what's so great about "entertainment' that's composed of stories and situations that never actually happened

So...95% of "entertainment"?


I'd put it closer to 99.99% but yeah
 
2012-02-23 07:20:04 PM

Skyrmion: I'm looking forward to seeing this movie. That said, I'm forced to agree with the "It looks like How to Train Your Dragon without the dragons" comment.


It's also got another thing in common with HtTYD: Craig Ferguson. That alone is enough for me to see it.
 
2012-02-23 07:51:49 PM

dittybopper: Fish in a Barrel: Beautiful arrow physics on that last release.

Yep. They got the Archer's Paradox *RIGHT*. I'm impressed. Looks like a movie the littlebopper and I would enjoy.


And the fletching callus on her cheek.
 
2012-02-23 08:12:01 PM
Nice touch with the fletchings cutting her cheek.
 
2012-02-23 08:54:24 PM

nocturn: dittybopper: Fish in a Barrel: Beautiful arrow physics on that last release.

Yep. They got the Archer's Paradox *RIGHT*. I'm impressed. Looks like a movie the littlebopper and I would enjoy.

And the fletching callus on her cheek.


Really?

I mean really???

Attention to detail is fine and it apparently wanks the enthusiasts but let me paraphrase someone smarter than me..."Since when is verisimilitude the object of animation?"

Emphasis mine.
 
2012-02-23 09:43:29 PM

tlchwi02: dittybopper: Yep. They got the Archer's Paradox *RIGHT*. I'm impressed. Looks like a movie the littlebopper and I would enjoy.

thats high praise


You dropped this:
www.tvtime101.com
 
2012-02-23 10:40:54 PM
Great , just what my princess crazy niece needs. And red head just like her. At least I won't have to watch Tangled as much.
 
2012-02-23 11:06:52 PM

gimmeafarkinname: nocturn: dittybopper: Fish in a Barrel: Beautiful arrow physics on that last release.

Yep. They got the Archer's Paradox *RIGHT*. I'm impressed. Looks like a movie the littlebopper and I would enjoy.

And the fletching callus on her cheek.

Really?

I mean really???

Attention to detail is fine and it apparently wanks the enthusiasts but let me paraphrase someone smarter than me..."Since when is verisimilitude the object of animation?"

Emphasis mine.


It gives credence to her skills at archery. She didn't magically come by these skills like she would in any other grrrl power film, animated or otherwise. That little detail, the callus, suggests she worked, practiced, and labored at archery to get as good as she did. Instead of a few months of labor, quickly ran through to an uplifting score, the ever cliched "training montage" it suggests that this is something she's done for quite some time. (yes, I know, calluses don't take that long to develop).

In storytelling, you don't tell, you show. And that little detail says quite a bit about her character.

Unfortunately, it'll take "the wanks" to notice and appreciate this. :P

Just another reason why Pixar is the top animation company.
 
2012-02-24 12:11:49 AM
For everyone calling for an Incredibles 2 movies, where can it go? I loved the Incredibles and my first thought afterward was when is the sequel. But then I thought about it and realized it really does not have anywhere to go. It had a good set up and a villain who had a backstory. Trying to do another stand alone episode will feel hollow and boring. No matter what kind of story it is. All the characters have been fleshed out, there is no where else to go with them. Having them be older would just feel stale and cliche.
 
2012-02-24 05:12:17 AM

Iggie: This, and the fact that for some inexplicable reason the makers of HtTYD decided to give some of the Vikings Scottish accents.


I hope in HTTYD2, they meet up with dragon riding Highlanders with Scandinavian accents.
 
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