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2012-02-23 02:54:42 PM

WhyKnot: a quick question to the fark community:

The WhyKnot family is taking a vacation and we are actively looking for a rental house in our destination city. After searching craiglist we identified a possible rental property. Several backs and forth emails resulted in the receipt of the rental agreement and a request to Western Union our deposit to a gentlemen in the San Bernardino area.

Western Union always raises my alarm bells, so I did a quick google search of the recipient's name with the word scam. Low and behold, the name came up on several of the scam alert websites. Additionally, the emails on the scam alert websites were identical to the ones we had been receiving.

Clearly this is a scam, so we will not be proceeding. That being said, scammers can suck my nuts and are some of the worst people alive, as a result I forward the emails to the San Bernardino county sheriffs office with a link to scam website.

My question to the fark community, what else should I do? I just checked and the craiglist ad has already been flagged and removed.

Thank you.

WhyKnot


You could start by using legitimate property rental sites instead of Craigslist...
 
2012-02-23 02:58:33 PM
Whole Wheat

I am pretty sure this will get worse before it gets better....

/forced to watch Lifetime Movie Network too much


I wish I was lying but my wifes ex tried something like this recently. They split like 15 years ago. At least he didn't know our address or use her real name.

farked up story bro.
 
2012-02-23 03:03:06 PM

Karac: bikerbob59: Karac: At least he had the sense not to say put 'Don't bother knocking, I have rape fantasies. If the door's locked, the key is in the bottom of the garden gnome.' on the ads.

Wow. Man, I wonder what charge that would be for him. And would the guy that read it also get charged??

IIRC correctly, this premise was used in a Law and Order episode, maybe a NCIS one as well. In one of them, I think the guy that posted the ad got charged with rape-rape, while the guy who did the physical act pled down to lewd conduct or something. In the other episode, the lady shot the physical guy dead, which got the poster charged with murder. Take that for whatever you think cop-drama lawyering is worth.


ublawcso.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-02-23 03:07:02 PM
 
2012-02-23 03:07:16 PM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: CapeFearCadaver: AnthraxRipple: I know someone this happened to, but different: while they were still dating, the guy did this to make the girl think her ex did it. The guy did not seem that type, I'm actually really concerned that there's something seriously wrong with him.

As you should be... is she still with him?

Per TFA, every day I google personal information about myself to make sure my ex is not attempting anything such as this. Exhausting vigilance FTW.

Why don't you just set up some Google alerts?


Because I'm a maroon and did not know about this. Off to learn!!!

/thx
 
2012-02-23 03:09:28 PM

SageC: Karac: bikerbob59: Karac:
[ublawcso.files.wordpress.com image 400x316]


What does robot insurance have to do with this? A rapebot!?
 
2012-02-23 03:10:30 PM
thank you all for you comments, both real and funny.
 
2012-02-23 03:14:59 PM
Link (new window)
 
2012-02-23 03:18:05 PM

WhyKnot: a quick question to the fark community:

The WhyKnot family is taking a vacation and we are actively looking for a rental house in our destination city. After searching craiglist we identified a possible rental property. Several backs and forth emails resulted in the receipt of the rental agreement and a request to Western Union our deposit to a gentlemen in the San Bernardino area.

Western Union always raises my alarm bells, so I did a quick google search of the recipient's name with the word scam. Low and behold, the name came up on several of the scam alert websites. Additionally, the emails on the scam alert websites were identical to the ones we had been receiving.

Clearly this is a scam, so we will not be proceeding. That being said, scammers can suck my nuts and are some of the worst people alive, as a result I forward the emails to the San Bernardino county sheriffs office with a link to scam website.

My question to the fark community, what else should I do? I just checked and the craiglist ad has already been flagged and removed.

Thank you.

WhyKnot


Abandon your San Bernadino plans, and take the family on a cruise off the coast of Italy.

Seriously, it sounds like there's nothing more to do regarding your scam artist. I'd recommend trying to find a rental using a legitimate site, as was recommended up-thread. I had great luck using www.homeaway.com when we vacationed in Whitefish last year...
 
2012-02-23 03:20:27 PM

bikerbob59: Karac: At least he had the sense not to say put 'Don't bother knocking, I have rape fantasies. If the door's locked, the key is in the bottom of the garden gnome.' on the ads.

Wow. Man, I wonder what charge that would be for him. And would the guy that read it also get charged??


Something similar has actually happened. Guy even went so far as to IM the eventual rapist and give detailed "fantasies"

Both the ex-boyfriend and the actual rapist got 60 years in prison.

Rapist pled guilty to 2 counts first degree sexual assault and a couple of other felonies, ex pled guilty to sexual assault, kidnapping and burglary.

Link (new window)
 
2012-02-23 03:24:35 PM
img.photobucket.com

The best revenge is going out, finding a girl that looks just like her, and fark her!
 
2012-02-23 03:28:04 PM

WhyKnot: a quick question to the fark community:

The WhyKnot family is taking a vacation and we are actively looking for a rental house in our destination city. After searching craiglist we identified a possible rental property. Several backs and forth emails resulted in the receipt of the rental agreement and a request to Western Union our deposit to a gentlemen in the San Bernardino area.

Western Union always raises my alarm bells, so I did a quick google search of the recipient's name with the word scam. Low and behold, the name came up on several of the scam alert websites. Additionally, the emails on the scam alert websites were identical to the ones we had been receiving.

Clearly this is a scam, so we will not be proceeding. That being said, scammers can suck my nuts and are some of the worst people alive, as a result I forward the emails to the San Bernardino county sheriffs office with a link to scam website.

My question to the fark community, what else should I do? I just checked and the craiglist ad has already been flagged and removed.

Thank you.

WhyKnot


My brother got caught up in a Craigslist scam, truth be told, he was the scammer, and I think the answer to your question is, nothing. The police do not care. He's been scamming people, on and off Craigslist, for years. Has been arrested many times. They only time he ever got jail times was when he was charged with "False Declaration to a Pawn Broker". He got in zero trouble for scamming $6000 worth of tools from guy, but got 3 years for selling them to a pawn shop.
 
2012-02-23 03:31:11 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: WhyKnot: a quick question to the fark community:

The WhyKnot family is taking a vacation and we are actively looking for a rental house in our destination city. After searching craiglist we identified a possible rental property. Several backs and forth emails resulted in the receipt of the rental agreement and a request to Western Union our deposit to a gentlemen in the San Bernardino area.

Western Union always raises my alarm bells, so I did a quick google search of the recipient's name with the word scam. Low and behold, the name came up on several of the scam alert websites. Additionally, the emails on the scam alert websites were identical to the ones we had been receiving.

Clearly this is a scam, so we will not be proceeding. That being said, scammers can suck my nuts and are some of the worst people alive, as a result I forward the emails to the San Bernardino county sheriffs office with a link to scam website.

My question to the fark community, what else should I do? I just checked and the craiglist ad has already been flagged and removed.

Thank you.

WhyKnot

Dude, I don't have any solutions to your Craigslist issue, but seriously, using your last name as your Fark handle is probably a really bad idea.


last name as a handle... why knot??
 
2012-02-23 03:31:33 PM
retard-o-rama.com

Yep.
 
2012-02-23 03:34:08 PM

WhyKnot: a quick question to the fark community:

The WhyKnot family is taking a vacation and we are actively looking for a rental house in our destination city. After searching craiglist we identified a possible rental property. Several backs and forth emails resulted in the receipt of the rental agreement and a request to Western Union our deposit to a gentlemen in the San Bernardino area.

Western Union always raises my alarm bells, so I did a quick google search of the recipient's name with the word scam. Low and behold, the name came up on several of the scam alert websites. Additionally, the emails on the scam alert websites were identical to the ones we had been receiving.

Clearly this is a scam, so we will not be proceeding. That being said, scammers can suck my nuts and are some of the worst people alive, as a result I forward the emails to the San Bernardino county sheriffs office with a link to scam website.

My question to the fark community, what else should I do? I just checked and the craiglist ad has already been flagged and removed.

Thank you.

WhyKnot


You could always not go to San Bernardino, Riverside County, and the Inland Empire all together. Who goes to Cali to vacation in Berdo anyway? Are you touring museums and amusement parks dedicated to manufacturing meth, and/or Welding?
 
2012-02-23 03:34:48 PM
If you find it difficult to tell if something is a scam on craigslist: Unplug your computer and find a broker for whatever you're looking for.
 
2012-02-23 03:37:27 PM
>>our deposit to a gentlemen in the San Bernardino area.
Picture an area with shack houses and garbage on the streets with a mix of the desert sand and tumble weeds and you pretty much pegged San Bernardino....
 
2012-02-23 03:39:20 PM

WhyKnot: a quick question to the fark community:

The WhyKnot family is taking a vacation and we are actively looking for a rental house in our destination city. After searching craiglist we identified a possible rental property. Several backs and forth emails resulted in the receipt of the rental agreement and a request to Western Union our deposit to a gentlemen in the San Bernardino area.

Western Union always raises my alarm bells, so I did a quick google search of the recipient's name with the word scam. Low and behold, the name came up on several of the scam alert websites. Additionally, the emails on the scam alert websites were identical to the ones we had been receiving.

Clearly this is a scam, so we will not be proceeding. That being said, scammers can suck my nuts and are some of the worst people alive, as a result I forward the emails to the San Bernardino county sheriffs office with a link to scam website.

My question to the fark community, what else should I do? I just checked and the craiglist ad has already been flagged and removed.

Thank you.

WhyKnot


Do not use Craigslist for anything that has to do with money.

And if you do, be sure to Google whoever/whatever you are searching for.

If you encounter a scam the only thing that you can really do is contact Craigslist about it. If you contact the police or the FBI there is not much that they can do about it as by the time that they respond the scammer will be long gone by then. If you contact Craigslist they will be in more of a position to do something as they might look into the matter before the scammer takes off for the hills. Even then the scammer is more than likely using an IP address that cannot be traced or that is bogus. Either way, Craigslist will carry more weight with the authorities than any one given person.
 
2012-02-23 03:48:10 PM
Um...that's definitely identity theft.

1) Pretend to be somebody else.
2) Do things in that guise.
3) Identity theft.
 
2012-02-23 03:49:45 PM

ChuDogg: If you find it difficult to tell if something is a scam on craigslist: Unplug your computer and find a broker for whatever you're looking for.



Unfortunately scammers copy legitimate ads and photos for properties from places like realtor.com. They then use those ads and pictures on Craigslist advertising them as rentals. It's genuinely difficult to tell the difference. It's a problem for homeowners because they get people knocking on their doors thinking the place is for rent and the realtors have to track the ads down and get them removed.
 
2012-02-23 03:50:43 PM

AnthraxRipple: I know someone this happened to, but different: while they were still dating, the guy did this to make the girl think her ex did it. The guy did not seem that type, I'm actually really concerned that there's something seriously wrong with him.


He's probably a b-tard.

/but I repeat you
 
2012-02-23 03:51:27 PM

WhyKnot: a quick question to the fark community:

The WhyKnot family is taking a vacation and we are actively looking for a rental house in our destination city. After searching craiglist we identified a possible rental property. Several backs and forth emails resulted in the receipt of the rental agreement and a request to Western Union our deposit to a gentlemen in the San Bernardino area.

Western Union always raises my alarm bells, so I did a quick google search of the recipient's name with the word scam. Low and behold, the name came up on several of the scam alert websites. Additionally, the emails on the scam alert websites were identical to the ones we had been receiving.

Clearly this is a scam, so we will not be proceeding. That being said, scammers can suck my nuts and are some of the worst people alive, as a result I forward the emails to the San Bernardino county sheriffs office with a link to scam website.

My question to the fark community, what else should I do? I just checked and the craiglist ad has already been flagged and removed.

Thank you.

WhyKnot


May I recommend VRBO.com. Still have to use caution but CL is full of rental scammers.
 
2012-02-23 03:52:44 PM
So, um, engaging in actual identity theft will get you arrested for identity theft? Huh, who knew.

//Just because it's not for financial gain doesn't make it not illegal.
 
2012-02-23 03:54:33 PM
As another poster mentioned, Homeaway.com has been good to me.

Had to find a room on a weekend when all hotels/B&B's were filled, and Homeaway was able to hook me up with a nice apartment in the best location possible. It turned out to be cheaper than the B&B's or Hotels as well.

It will probably still be a good idea to do some legwork on the HomeAway site too, just to make sure you aren't scammed, but I think it would be a lot less likely than on Craigslist.
 
2012-02-23 03:57:21 PM

NightOwl2255:

My brother got caught up in a Craigslist scam, truth be told, he was the scammer, and I think the answer to your question is, nothing. The police do not care. He's been scamming people, on and off Craigslist, for years. Has been arrested many times. They only time he ever got jail times was when he was charged with "False Declaration to a Pawn Broker". He got in zero trouble for scamming $6000 worth of tools from guy, but got 3 years for selling them to a pawn shop.


I know that he's family and it would make Thanksgiving really awkward if you killed him...but could you at least kick his ass for us?

I've been fortunate enough not to get scammed on Craigslist (and if you follow the rules on their own site, most scams can be avoided), but I know people who have, and scammers are complete scum.
 
2012-02-23 04:00:15 PM

rudemix: WhyKnot: a quick question to the fark community:

You could always not go to San Bernardino, Riverside County, and the Inland Empire all together. Who goes to Cali to vacation in Berdo anyway? Are you touring museums and amusement parks dedicated to manufacturing meth, and/or Welding?


Ha! The Whyknots are actually heading to San Diego. I contacted the San Bernardino Sheriff because the scammer's western union address was Adelanto, CA. The City of Adelanto doesn't have a police department and instead contracts the San Bernardino Sheriffs Department . I highly doubt the scammer is located in SD, thus my only landmark was Adelanto, CA.

Again, thanks everyone for the helpful comments and the funny comments.

CheekyMonkey:

I had great luck using www.homeaway.com when we vacationed in Whitefish last year...


The wife had previously been leading the charge on finding a location, so I don't know if she has seen this sight. That being said, I have already found several cool places. thank you very much.
 
2012-02-23 04:04:42 PM

WhyKnot: My question to the fark community, what else should I do?


Well I can tell you one thing. No way in hell your vacation is going to be better than mine, so just give it up and stay at home.

/loves helping people
 
2012-02-23 04:10:04 PM

WhyKnot: Ha! The Whyknots are actually heading to San Diego.


Do you guys like hamburgers and milkshakes? Hodad's in Ocean Beach.

Horton Plaza is also a fun outdoor mall to let the kids loose in and has just plain quirky architecture.

/Don't let them in F Street Bookstore.
 
2012-02-23 04:11:04 PM

jagec: I know that he's family and it would make Thanksgiving really awkward if you killed him...but could you at least kick his ass for us?


At the moment, he's in Mexico, we think. He got busted down there once. Lucky for him the guy he was with had family that cared about him and they paid the bribe to get them out. We keep hoping he will get busted down there, and no one will get him out.
 
2012-02-23 04:12:20 PM

LaraAmber: WhyKnot: Ha! The Whyknots are actually heading to San Diego.

Do you guys like hamburgers and milkshakes? Hodad's in Ocean Beach.

Horton Plaza is also a fun outdoor mall to let the kids loose in and has just plain quirky architecture.

/Don't let them in F Street Bookstore.


LOVE hamburgers. Your comments are appreciated and noted for later.
 
2012-02-23 04:13:11 PM

senzasord: ChuDogg: If you find it difficult to tell if something is a scam on craigslist: Unplug your computer and find a broker for whatever you're looking for.


Unfortunately scammers copy legitimate ads and photos for properties from places like realtor.com. They then use those ads and pictures on Craigslist advertising them as rentals. It's genuinely difficult to tell the difference.


Not really, just open 10-20 ads at once. Don't respond to the ones without locations, local phone numbers, names, etc.. When Akbar the great responds to your email, move on. You should be able to spot a fake ad though with 99% certainty before getting to email.

Like I said, if this is difficult or requires a modicum of thought, you should probably just go to a broker.
 
2012-02-23 04:14:50 PM
Sometimes I think bringing back the pillory wouldn't be such a bad thing. Or at least an official domestic abuser website that says "Do not date these people, they are crazy."
 
2012-02-23 04:20:08 PM

WhyKnot: LaraAmber: WhyKnot: Ha! The Whyknots are actually heading to San Diego.

Do you guys like hamburgers and milkshakes? Hodad's in Ocean Beach.

Horton Plaza is also a fun outdoor mall to let the kids loose in and has just plain quirky architecture.

/Don't let them in F Street Bookstore.

LOVE hamburgers. Your comments are appreciated and noted for later.


Screw good weather and California. Come to Scotland!
Home of the midge (an infamous biting gnat, impossible to kill, swarms in the billions, and leaves ugly itchy red welts by the score!), whisky, and..erm...ah, hell, we have whisky. What more do ye want?!

/ On a slightly less facetious note, we also have amazing scenery, castles, stella historical locations, great shopping opportunities in Glasgow & Edinburgh, amazing cultural delights, especially if you visit during the Festival/Fringe, great live music etc.
// And they've developed a working midge repellent now! Yay!
 
2012-02-23 04:20:49 PM

metametameta: Or at least an official domestic abuser website that says "Do not date these people, they are crazy."


Yes, please. Also put in there a way so when someone googles their nicknames, it will still come up with that person's conviction information.

I have that problem with my ex, google the name he goes by and music forums pop up; google his FULL name, all of his wrap sheets...
 
2012-02-23 04:28:14 PM
This happened to a client about 6 years ago -- though she was victimized not by an ex-boyfriend, but by her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend. The ex posted her home address, college schedule, home and cell phone numbers, email, everything. She had previously been a crime victim so it was particularly traumatic. Creepy guys were approaching her at home, at her job, and at school. She had to ditch all her phone numbers and move.

We crushed the life, and future, of the ex like a cockroach under a heel. The ex cried herself into a coughing fit at one of the hearings on the case we brought against her.

Her tears were delicious.

Client's doing fine now.
 
2012-02-23 04:28:53 PM
yangnames.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-02-23 04:30:11 PM
Staying in San Berdo for a trip to SD is puzzling to say the least!
 
2012-02-23 04:30:47 PM

que.guero: EdNortonsTwin: x20 men a night came a knocking. lolz

It's Barnacle Bill the Sailor...


"who's that knocking at my door?

"it's only us we came on the bus said Barnacle Bill the Sailors!"
 
2012-02-23 04:31:16 PM

Wizard Drongo:
Screw good weather and California. Come to Scotland!
Home of the midge (an infamous biting gnat, impossible to kill, swarms in the billions, and leaves ugly itchy red welts by the score!), whisky, and..erm...ah, hell, we have whisky. What more do ye want?!

/ On a slightly less facetious note, we also have amazing scenery, castles, stella historical locations, great shopping opportunities in Glasgow & Edinburgh, amazing cultural delights, especially if you visit during the Festival/Fringe, great live music etc.
// And they've developed a working midge repellent now! Yay!


I would love to come to Scotland and explore my roots. Unfortunately no one has either A. accidentally parked a Tardis in my yard or B. developed a transporter.

/If I tell you I spent my childhood competing in Scottish Highland Dancing will you buy me a plane ticket?
 
2012-02-23 04:42:08 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Why don't you just set up some Google alerts?
Because I'm a maroon and did not know about this. Off to learn!!!
/thx


Google has already sent an alert to your ex that you've set up an alert. She got there first.
 
2012-02-23 04:51:08 PM

LaraAmber:
I would love to come to Scotland and explore my roots. Unfortunately no one has either A. accidentally parked a Tardis in my yard or B. developed a transporter.

/If I tell you I spent my childhood competing in Scottish Highland Dancing will you buy me a plane ticket?


If over half the things in your profile are true, just about any male here will buy you a plane ticket to see them.

/I gave up on George R.R. Martin after he started getting cute with the chapter titles.
 
2012-02-23 04:55:04 PM

The Jami Turman Fan Club: LaraAmber:
I would love to come to Scotland and explore my roots. Unfortunately no one has either A. accidentally parked a Tardis in my yard or B. developed a transporter.

/If I tell you I spent my childhood competing in Scottish Highland Dancing will you buy me a plane ticket?

If over half the things in your profile are true, just about any male here will buy you a plane ticket to see them.

/I gave up on George R.R. Martin after he started getting cute with the chapter titles.


All true. Leaves out the husband and toddler and my annoying quirks like insisting on using proper grammar when sending text messages and sorting my M&Ms by color before eating.
 
2012-02-23 05:08:30 PM

LaraAmber: The Jami Turman Fan Club: LaraAmber:
I would love to come to Scotland and explore my roots. Unfortunately no one has either A. accidentally parked a Tardis in my yard or B. developed a transporter.

/If I tell you I spent my childhood competing in Scottish Highland Dancing will you buy me a plane ticket?

If over half the things in your profile are true, just about any male here will buy you a plane ticket to see them.

/I gave up on George R.R. Martin after he started getting cute with the chapter titles.

All true. Leaves out the husband and toddler and my annoying quirks like insisting on using proper grammar when sending text messages and sorting my M&Ms by color before eating.


"txt" speak is ONLY ever excusable on a) an ancient brick of a phone where it would take you days to type a proper message, and b) if you're also on some weird call-plan that means you're charged an arm-and-a-leg for each text (most plans nowadays give you a few thousand free texts a month, or unlimited more often than not). Oh, and if you're on twitter, as long as you *try* and spell it right before you get to the end and have -7 letters so you have to go back and omit vowels etc. So you're good on that score, there's more of us than you think.

Don't really eat M&M's that much but I do this with smarties, and all other coloured sweets. Especially these (new window).

The toddler's not a deal killer, we can find a sitter. The husband...well, depends on how open he is to...new experiences*.
I'm guessing probably not.

* like being tied up at the foot of the bed whilst I dry hump his redhead missus, and then Mrs. Drongo goes to town on you. Yeah can get *pretty freaky* an shiat.

Like I said, I'm guessing probably not, the dream is dead.

/ If you looked like Amy Pond, I'd find a way anyway.
// And if I were a millionaire, I genuinely would have already sent you a ticket and hotel arrangements.
/// Alas, I'm a dirt-poor humble artist.
//// No plane tickets for you. Sorry, cannot has. kthnxbye.
 
2012-02-23 05:17:53 PM

Evil Mackerel: Disturbing and dicky.Shes lucky she didn't get raped.


Or raped then killed. Or killed then raped. I mean, a guy like that, what would stop him?

/not even slightly obscure.
 
2012-02-23 05:37:32 PM
metametameta: Sometimes I think bringing back the pillory wouldn't be such a bad thing. Or at least an official domestic abuser website that says "Do not date these people, they are crazy."

Hmmm

datepinions.com is available
 
2012-02-23 06:12:12 PM

Wizard Drongo:
The toddler's not a deal killer, we can find a sitter. The husband...well, depends on how open he is to...new experiences*.
I'm guessing probably not.


Let me put it this way, I could say "hey honey, how about we go to Vegas and get a really hot girl for a threesome" and he'd look at me like I'd lost my damn mind. He is so firmly in the "I don't share" camp it's actually cute.
 
2012-02-23 06:16:26 PM
You wouldn't think so, but asking/hiring a woman 1300 miles away to go punch your soon to be ex wife in the face can bring some SERIOUS charges.

Just putting that out there.


/was smart enough to look that up before actually doing it
 
2012-02-23 06:38:15 PM

LaraAmber: Wizard Drongo:
The toddler's not a deal killer, we can find a sitter. The husband...well, depends on how open he is to...new experiences*.
I'm guessing probably not.


Let me put it this way, I could say "hey honey, how about we go to Vegas and get a really hot girl for a threesome" and he'd look at me like I'd lost my damn mind. He is so firmly in the "I don't share" camp it's actually cute.


Well, I guess it's back to the tried and tested...
I spose you wouldn't mind if I walked up to him and asked him if this rag smelled of ether, right?
He won't remember a thing...

That's what the Rohyp we dose him with afterwards is for...
P A R T Y time!
Ain't happening in any case, unless one of us wins the lottery, but if you ever do make it to Scotland, let me know, we'll take you round all the good drinking spots, err, I mean scenic locations!
/ Ménage à trois optional
 
2012-02-23 09:58:43 PM
She sounds BBW & Curvy.
 
2012-02-24 12:00:12 AM
LMAO. Classic.
 
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