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2012-02-22 08:35:26 PM
Fabulous!
 
2012-02-22 08:42:17 PM
"The governor's aides called not too long ago, wanting another appointment to come in," [Darden] said. "Because of her stances and her views on this I told her aides no. They called the next day, asking if I'd changed my mind about taking the governor in and I said no again."

Darden added: "I think it's just equality, dignity for everyone. I think everybody should be allowed the right to be together. My partner and I have been together for 15 years."


I think this is summed up by the first sentence:

"Revolution happens through accumulated moments of personal conviction, through small acts that coalesce into a movement, into a societal shift, into a new truth."

Well done, sir. Well done.
 
2012-02-22 09:03:53 PM
This story does better and stands on its own without the misuse of quotations.
 
2012-02-22 09:16:06 PM
You go, girl!

I love that the aides called back to make sure. Probably didn't have the guts to tell the governor the truth at first.
 
2012-02-22 09:31:31 PM
Good on you, Antonio! You have he right to refuse service and certainly have the right to refuse service to someone who tells the world that you are not a citizen, you don;t have the same rights as everyone else, and basically sends you a big-ol' FARK YOU for being who you are.

And as the sage advice from my grandmother goes: Never offend a stylist while his hands are in your hair.

I hope gay business owners all over decide to deny her service. I hope all hair stylists deny her service in solidarity. I hope her aides have to call all over farking town before they finally find someone who will cut her hair at a strip mall Great Clips.

Don't piss off the queens, biatch.
 
2012-02-22 09:41:02 PM
Speaking of New Mexico governors...Gary Johnson looks like he could use a haircut - plus he's already pro-human-rights, unlike the GOP field and President Fierce-Audacity-of-um-my-position's-evolving.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-02-22 10:27:08 PM
I bet you the same farktards that cheered that landscaping company for denying service to gay customers will biatch and complain about this hairstylist for denying service.
 
2012-02-22 11:11:14 PM
Might be an issue with public accomodations civil rights law.
Probably worth going to court over, though.
 
2012-02-22 11:35:44 PM
I posted this the other day in another same-sex marriage thread, but update below it that makes me even angrier:

"And for those of you who think definitions don't matter and this isn't an equal rights issue, let me put before you my current life.

I went out for a boat tour and on this tour, met someone with whom I sparked right away. We sent the rest of the afternoon and evening together. Later that same night we met again and walked the city for hours on end just talking and getting to know one another. Unfortunately, I had a flight out of there the next morning as I was just visiting, so around 4 AM I had to go my separate way. The person I met also was not from that place, so we both ended up quite some distance away. We kept in touch online, and after a few months we agreed to meet up again at another location. This time it was obvious that we had both fallen for each other. It was the best 10 days of my life. But, unfortunately, once again, we had to fly back to our homes and go about life. Back to keeping in touch online. We were fortunate enough to be able to about 6 months later meet again to spend about 11 days together. Then we had to wait another 6 months to spend another 10 days together. Now in 2 weeks I'm looking forward to flying off to spend another 14 days together. Now one would think, at this point, if we are so in love and obviously smitten with each other, one of us would just move to where the other lives and make a home with each other, right?

Well, the problem is, those different locations we are from are different countries. On top of that, we are of the same sex. On top of that, neither of us happens to be from one of the countries of the world that give same-sex couples equal marriage, and thus, immigration rights. I am from the United States - a country that does not give me the level of rights in this area I would have if I were from Canada, Argentina, South Africa, or any number of European countries. So, instead of being able to make a home together, we have to scrape together enough money to fly to other countries just to spend a small number of days together.

So yeah, don't tell me I don't tell me it's not an equal rights issue or that it should not feel oppressive to me."

Update: Now my partner is rather seriously ill and can't travel. That anticipated time together in 2 weeks is off. Waiting on medical test results. Now we can't see each other, and I have to be on the other side of the world rather than by his side through all of this. I'm really not happy with the people in my country who don't think I should have the right to be with my partner.
 
2012-02-23 12:12:31 AM
WorldCitizen: snip

As someone who was in an overseas relationship, I understand the frustration of not being able to be there and having only a few short weeks every half a year. I can't imagine the pain and frustration you must be going through being that these asinine policies prevent you from being able to cement your relationship though...mine was the "traditional" relationship and so (after I got past the "all men on the internet are axe murders portion) nobody batted an eye, at least from an official standpoint.

Rest assured that you and yours will triumph because the tide is turning in your favor. These continued attacks reek more and more of desperation, they are no longer messages of conviction, of certainty, they are attempts to draw a dwindling number of voters to polls and will ultimately be defeated. The day is now in sight when you can invite your partner to stay here...
 
2012-02-23 03:43:23 AM
Didn't anybody ever teach her that it's pretty much rule number one of beauty that you don't upset your hair stylist?

Good for Antonio, it's about time for people to start making stands like these. One or two people doing it is one thing and it's good for media purposes, but if enough people step up and make it clear that bigotry has a price, politicians will start thinking long and hard about what stances they take.
 
2012-02-23 04:19:18 AM
Sounds like the hairstylist just told Governor Martinez to curl up and dye... I wonder how long she's used his salon, it sounds like no matter what this split ends with permanent damage. On the other hand, he could always keep styling her hair, while whispering gay propaganda into her ear in order to conditioner and straightener out. But she won't listen to him because he eats da shampoo-poo.
 
2012-02-23 04:25:52 AM
Benevolent Misanthrope: Good on you, Antonio! You have he right to refuse service and certainly have the right to refuse service to someone who tells the world that you are not a citizen, you don;t have the same rights as everyone else, and basically sends you a big-ol' FARK YOU for being who you are.

And as the sage advice from my grandmother goes: Never offend a stylist while his hands are in your hair.

I hope gay business owners all over decide to deny her service. I hope all hair stylists deny her service in solidarity. I hope her aides have to call all over farking town before they finally find someone who will cut her hair at a strip mall Great Clips.

Don't piss off the queens, biatch.


*applause*

Perfect.
 
2012-02-23 05:59:23 AM
Paris1127: Sounds like the hairstylist just told Governor Martinez to curl up and dye... I wonder how long she's used his salon, it sounds like no matter what this split ends with permanent damage. On the other hand, he could always keep styling her hair, while whispering gay propaganda into her ear in order to conditioner and straightener out. But she won't listen to him because he eats da shampoo-poo.

Very nice.
 
2012-02-23 06:06:02 AM
In my mind, I imagine a black shoeshiner in the early '60s deciding that if George Wallace thought that he was a second class citizen, he wouldn't shine his shoes anymore.

I could see that shoeshiner being harassed or even worse by the afront to Wallace.

Whereas the worst I see for Antonio Darden is that maybe some supporters of the governor and/or her views will not go to his salon anymore.

Hopefully this means we're a better place than we were then. And hopefully Susana Martinez will be treated by history in a few decades just as "kindly" as Wallace is now.
 
2012-02-23 06:16:30 AM
Incoming derp about denying her service because of her religious beliefs.
 
2012-02-23 06:16:43 AM
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2012-02-23 06:21:06 AM
Feelthy peegs?

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2012-02-23 06:26:05 AM
The market place is supposed to be governed by business and not personal issues. It will be a story for a day, but with tough economic times ahead, business have even less a motive to get all huffy.
 
2012-02-23 06:36:36 AM
Being a bigot may have repercussions. Someone should really share that information with our right-wing friends.

/not me, too busy laughing
 
2012-02-23 06:41:21 AM
In an age where nobody wants to risk arrest in civil disobedience, strikes and boycotts are the best thing.
 
2012-02-23 06:44:53 AM
Good for the hairdresser! A business owner should always have the right to deny services in their private business to people they don't like or disagree with.
 
2012-02-23 06:45:08 AM
FTFA: "I will not accept your conservative assault on my freedoms."

That sums up the whole Republican party's hypocrisy. They say they love freedom while they seek to prevent and remove freedoms.
 
2012-02-23 06:49:10 AM
Good for him...

I know if someone was pontificating how "moral" it is to treat me like a second class citizen, it would be a cold day in hell before I'd have them as a client. That's the great thing about being self-employed or owning your own business.

The only objections to homosexual marriage are based on bigotry or religious dogma, and it's disgraceful that any elected leader would think it is acceptable to codify either into law.
 
2012-02-23 06:53:14 AM
RandomExcess: The market place is supposed to be governed by business and not personal issues. It will be a story for a day, but with tough economic times ahead, business have even less a motive to get all huffy.

Large business funnels a million dollars to a politician: what's the problem

Small business declines one client as a political statement: whoa, let's not get crazy here, you have a business to run

/looks like Antonio just bought himself a farkload of publicity for the cost of a haircut
 
2012-02-23 06:58:43 AM
Impasse: Feelthy peegs?

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"Take heem and make heem like my other leetle pets!"
"So put him in a hamster wheel?"

"Ortega taco shells are made from people!"


"Whatdoyouthinkwecameherefortoeeeeeeat?"
 
2012-02-23 07:00:37 AM
Descartes: Good for the hairdresser! A business owner should always have the right to deny services in their private business to people they don't like or disagree with.

No, but in this particular case it seems he's well within his rights.

/thank you, please troll again
 
2012-02-23 07:01:49 AM
Descartes: Good for the hairdresser! A business owner should always have the right to deny services in their private business to people they don't like or disagree with.

I know you're being a facetious prick, but that's not really how that works. It's illegal to discriminate against people because you don't "like" them so long as that is related to their religion, race or gender. It's perfectly legal to not serve someone because of their free speech. Free speech means you are free to speak your mind, not that you are free from any and all repercussions of speaking your mind.
 
2012-02-23 07:06:28 AM
Impasse: Feelthy peegs?

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HAHA! You made my morning, peeg.

/Renee Richards is Wendy Carlos in Glen or Glenda
 
2012-02-23 07:12:06 AM
Sounds like NM's governor is jealous of all the attention Arizona's been getting.

farking biatch.
 
2012-02-23 07:12:31 AM
MBK: I bet you the same farktards that cheered that landscaping company for denying service to gay customers will biatch and complain about this hairstylist for denying service.

Homophobic hypocrites on FARK? Say it ain't so!

/Don't you think the trolls look tired?
 
2012-02-23 07:17:14 AM
I'm tired of ignorant people... often the ones all about smaller government...trying to force their vision on everybody else. Good for the hair dresser.
 
2012-02-23 07:19:46 AM
I read the headline as "her gay hairstyle tells her to fark off," and was amused, slightly offended and confused all at once.

The real story works much better.
 
2012-02-23 07:20:01 AM
Monkeyfark Ridiculous: No, but in this particular case it seems he's well within his rights.

TwistedFark: I know you're being a facetious prick, but that's not really how that works

I always love the "it's not fascism when we do it" argument. You guys are precious.

Of course I'm being sarcastic to make a point, and the hairdresser has a valid point, but this is a dangerous road where it won't always be obvious why a service is being denied.
 
2012-02-23 07:27:39 AM
Descartes: I always love the "it's not fascism when we do it" argument. You guys are precious.

I always love the people who have no idea what fascism is yet have no problem throwing the term around. You are so precious.
 
2012-02-23 07:29:31 AM
Descartes: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: No, but in this particular case it seems he's well within his rights.

TwistedFark: I know you're being a facetious prick, but that's not really how that works

I always love the "it's not fascism when we do it" argument. You guys are precious.

Of course I'm being sarcastic to make a point, and the hairdresser has a valid point, but this is a dangerous road where it won't always be obvious why a service is being denied.


Again with the condescending jerkitude. It's... not a dangerous road. It's established law.

On a more serious, logical bent - Religion, Race and Gender (and now disabilities) are considered protected classes because they generally are things that we legally assume that individuals have no control over (Religion is debatable, but given the nature of people's beliefs lets give them that one).

Inversely, speech (your opinion) is not considered to have the same protection from discrimination because logically we know that people can form wrong opinions. Hell, being that you like to think you're so independant, you should realize that the idea that all opinions are equally valuable is just sophistry.

Ironically, sexual orientation is not protected because the prevailing attitude (at least until recently) has been that this is a choice. Hence, discriminating against individuals based on their sexual orientation is quite legal in many places across the globe.

/god help us if we enable retarded assmonkeys to have even less repercussions for being stupid than they already have in society.
 
2012-02-23 07:31:43 AM
Free speech =/= Consequence free speech

It never has.

The opening lines nailed it.
 
2012-02-23 07:36:05 AM
Descartes: Of course I'm being sarcastic to make a point, and the hairdresser has a valid point, but this is a dangerous road where it won't always be obvious why a service is being denied.

The hairdresser is not discriminating on the basis of her religion as I'm sure a quick survey of his other clients would show. He simply chose not to serve a single person who had expressed views offensive to him and was attempting to codify them into law.
 
2012-02-23 07:38:50 AM
Descartes: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: No, but in this particular case it seems he's well within his rights.

TwistedFark: I know you're being a facetious prick, but that's not really how that works

I always love the "it's not fascism when we do it" argument. You guys are precious.

Of course I'm being sarcastic to make a point, and the hairdresser has a valid point, but this is a dangerous road where it won't always be obvious why a service is being denied.


You started a fire!
Yes, I'm grilling some steaks.
Oh, so it's not arson when you do it!
It isn't about who's doing it. This is a barbecue.
Well it won't always be obvious how any given fire started!
Okay.
 
2012-02-23 07:46:05 AM
Elandriel: WorldCitizen: snip

As someone who was in an overseas relationship, I understand the frustration of not being able to be there and having only a few short weeks every half a year. I can't imagine the pain and frustration you must be going through being that these asinine policies prevent you from being able to cement your relationship though...mine was the "traditional" relationship and so (after I got past the "all men on the internet are axe murders portion) nobody batted an eye, at least from an official standpoint.

Rest assured that you and yours will triumph because the tide is turning in your favor. These continued attacks reek more and more of desperation, they are no longer messages of conviction, of certainty, they are attempts to draw a dwindling number of voters to polls and will ultimately be defeated. The day is now in sight when you can invite your partner to stay here...


As someone who is in an overseas, same-sex relationship, I definitely understand the difficulties. Fortunately, my partner is in one of the more sane countries that our sexuality isn't an issue. Yet I have some medical issues and can't travel to Europe for the time being, and thanks to our draconian laws, well... we all know the rest of the story.
 
2012-02-23 07:48:15 AM
Somebody either made a life-changing business decision by doing that. This could end up very good, or definitely very bad. I hope she gets an influx of gay and supportive clientele.
 
2012-02-23 07:54:18 AM
Descartes: Good for the hairdresser! A business owner should always have the right to deny services in their private business to people they don't like or disagree with.


Well, forgetting the philosophical question, why would someone who spends at least some amount of time on TV want their hair cut by someone who has expressed a certain amount of anger and disgust towards them?

That does not seem like an advisable course of action.
 
2012-02-23 07:59:16 AM
RandomExcess: The market place is supposed to be governed by business and not personal issues. It will be a story for a day, but with tough economic times ahead, business have even less a motive to get all huffy.


You're right, cause in recessions most people cut their own hair, or even stop hair growth all together to save money.
 
2012-02-23 08:05:08 AM
I give it about a week until some closet case burns the place down at night.
 
2012-02-23 08:08:45 AM
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Good on them. Free speech doesn't mean that you are free from consequences.
 
2012-02-23 08:09:18 AM
Occupied!
 
2012-02-23 08:12:03 AM
RandomExcess: The market place is supposed to be governed by business and not personal issues. It will be a story for a day, but with tough economic times ahead, business have even less a motive to get all huffy.

Why do you hate a businesses right to free speech? I thought that the job creators, like this, and their contributions to the public debate, were important pieces of the discussion. Or does that only apply to businesses that want to quash folks that you personally dislike?
 
2012-02-23 08:12:40 AM
Begun, the queer wars have.
 
2012-02-23 08:13:11 AM
This should lead to him getting a bunch of new business because of the publicity.
 
2012-02-23 08:14:56 AM
RandomExcess: The market place is supposed to be governed by business and not personal issues.
Drats, I didn't get the memo which said you are in charge of how the market place should be run. Regardless, not many businesses consist of someone pushing their body next to you while holding scissors 3 inches from your eyes. To me, that's fairly personal. Maybe Madam Governor should stick to businesses that don't incorporate personal beliefs, like Chick-filA, Cracker Barrel, Walmart, Lowes................
 
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