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(ABC Local)   Further proving that Republicans think of women as livestock, IL state agriculture committee passes new abortion restrictions   (abclocal.go.com) divider line 30
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2012-02-22 03:02:32 PM  
3 votes:

Blink: FTA:
That includes requiring changes to regulate that corridors in the clinics to be eight feet, rather than the current five feet standard and having electrical outlets on every wall.

WTFISS?

Is this a way of forcing current clinics to shut down?


It's the same thing Kansas (I think) pulled to try to shut down all three abortion clinics in the state. Regulations on the minimum square feet of janitor closet for each operating room, the acceptable temperator for those rooms, the different acceptable temperatures for waiting and recovery rooms, etc, etc, etc.

As for the people pointing out that this law was sponsored by a democrat - I've never heard anyone say that republicans have a monopoly on being assholes, just a vast majority.
2012-02-22 02:50:03 PM  
3 votes:
FTA:
That includes requiring changes to regulate that corridors in the clinics to be eight feet, rather than the current five feet standard and having electrical outlets on every wall.


WTFISS?

Is this a way of forcing current clinics to shut down?
2012-02-22 02:49:26 PM  
3 votes:

bigpeeler: Why wouldn't they want to see an ultrasound?


It's basically a shaming method. The conservative think that if the woman is forced to see the ultrasound, she'll be shamed out of getting the abortion.

Now, If I were a democrat, I'd require congress to view disturbing, and very graphic war footage before, and during any conflict we engage in.
2012-02-22 02:38:17 PM  
3 votes:

bigpeeler: Why wouldn't they want to see an ultrasound?


Why would they want to?

More importantly, should they be forced to undergo a medical procedure that is not medically necessary, and then pay for it out of their own pocket, if they don't want it?
2012-02-22 01:59:28 PM  
3 votes:
Most insurance companies will not pay for procedures that are not medically necessary. An ultrasound is not usually medically necessary. Requiring people to get an ultrasound that their insurance will not cover is just another way that rich politicians are doing their best to screw over poor and middle class people.
2012-02-22 03:04:17 PM  
2 votes:

Blink: FTA:
That includes requiring changes to regulate that corridors in the clinics to be eight feet, rather than the current five feet standard and having electrical outlets on every wall.

WTFISS?

Is this a way of forcing current clinics to shut down?


Yep. A lot of states are trying this. They can't directly make abortion illegal thanks to current legal precedent, but they can make it to where no facility providing abortions meets the regulatory requirements.
2012-02-22 02:57:38 PM  
2 votes:
2012-02-22 02:54:47 PM  
2 votes:
Jesus H farking Popsicle. Stop trying to micromanage by legislating doctor/patient relationship and adding medically unnecessary steps to stifle procedures.


This sets precedent and opens the flood gates for insurance lobbyists


You want your bypass covered? Not until your doctor jumps through all these hoops that are completely medically unnecessary in hopes you die before the procedure can be done therefore saving the insurance companies millions in expensive, life-saving procedures.
2012-02-22 02:54:17 PM  
2 votes:

Antimatter: bigpeeler: Why wouldn't they want to see an ultrasound?

It's basically a shaming method. The conservative think that if the woman is forced to see the ultrasound, she'll be shamed out of getting the abortion.

Now, If I were a democrat, I'd require congress to view disturbing, and very graphic war footage before, and during any conflict we engage in.


I support that fully.
2012-02-22 02:20:42 PM  
2 votes:
Democrats need to not jump on this stupid bandwagon. Bad democrats.
2012-02-22 04:53:32 PM  
1 votes:

gerrymander: The Agriculture Committee addresses state government concerns over livestock and animal byproducts -- milk, cheese, bull semen, whatever. It's all well and good to say "a fetus isn't a person" -- but that still presents the problem of what the fetus is, legally. And if it comes from a human but isn't a human, there's only one legal category it can fit under -- the same one which would contain breast milk and wig hair: agriculture.


Interesting point. Hadn't thought of it that way.
2012-02-22 03:36:55 PM  
1 votes:

gerrymander: And if it comes from a human but isn't a human, there's only one legal category it can fit under -- the same one which would contain breast milk and wig hair: agriculture.


Or a body part, like a donated kidney or liver...
2012-02-22 03:26:37 PM  
1 votes:

Blink: Antimatter: It's basically a shaming method. The conservative think that if the woman is forced to see the ultrasound, she'll be shamed out of getting the abortion.

Now, If I were a democrat, I'd require congress to view disturbing, and very graphic war footage before, and during any conflict we engage in.

I was thinking that we should be forced to see every elected official sans clothing before we're allowed to vote for them.

/why shouldn't you see the person who is going to be making governmental decisions without all those concealing clothes?
//transparency is good


Yes, thank you for your opinion Mr. Goodchild. :P
2012-02-22 03:24:34 PM  
1 votes:
Just think of what conservatives could get done if they were, y'know, concerned with actual governing and not this sort of ridiculous junk.

/pretty sure these morons don't even know the history of when abortions were allowed in the western world
//hint: abortions were not uncommon and in most times could legally be done until the woman felt the fetus move
2012-02-22 03:09:38 PM  
1 votes:

Arkanaut: gerrymander: Rep. Deborah Mell, a Chicago Democrat, was one of the two members voting against the bills and criticized the assignment to a committee that generally handles farming issues.

"We're not talking about abortions for cows and pigs, right? We're talking about women?" she said.

Sweetie, anytime you want to reclassify a fetus as a person, be my guest. Until then, welcome to living by the rules you demanded, even when you're not smart enough to work out the full ramifications beforehand.

Actually, wouldn't you have to reclassify a fetus as livestock for it to be relevant to the business of the Agriculture Committee?


The Agriculture Committee addresses state government concerns over livestock and animal byproducts -- milk, cheese, bull semen, whatever. It's all well and good to say "a fetus isn't a person" -- but that still presents the problem of what the fetus is, legally. And if it comes from a human but isn't a human, there's only one legal category it can fit under -- the same one which would contain breast milk and wig hair: agriculture.
2012-02-22 03:02:17 PM  
1 votes:

Antimatter: Now, If I were a democrat, I'd require congress to view disturbing, and very graphic war footage before, and during any conflict we engage in.


I suspect a near-majority of Congress would masturbate to that. Blood lust is required to become a Republican and a non-issue for (elected) Democrats.
2012-02-22 02:59:20 PM  
1 votes:

bigpeeler: FloydA: bigpeeler: Why wouldn't they want to see an ultrasound?

Why would they want to?


Yeah, I guess you're right. Out of sight, out of mind.


So no answer? You just snipped the question because you can't answer it.
That's pathetic.
2012-02-22 02:59:16 PM  
1 votes:

Blink: FTA:
That includes requiring changes to regulate that corridors in the clinics to be eight feet, rather than the current five feet standard and having electrical outlets on every wall.

WTFISS?

Is this a way of forcing current clinics to shut down?


Yes. Interesting gambit, isn't it? Can't wait to see what happens.
2012-02-22 02:58:02 PM  
1 votes:

bigpeeler: Why wouldn't they want to see an ultrasound?


I don't know. I do know that it's none of my business and none of yours.

Keep f*cking that chicken, ag committee.
2012-02-22 02:55:45 PM  
1 votes:

Blink: FTA:
That includes requiring changes to regulate that corridors in the clinics to be eight feet, rather than the current five feet standard and having electrical outlets on every wall.

WTFISS?

Is this a way of forcing current clinics to shut down?


Yes, that's exactly what it is. Those sorts of bills have been showing up everywhere lately, and it's all they are.
2012-02-22 02:55:43 PM  
1 votes:
The true irony? If Republicans would have gotten more abortions in the past, the world wouldn't be so farked up right now.
2012-02-22 02:54:39 PM  
1 votes:
Is there something in the water? Are people's brains being scrambled by alien transmissions? What the hell is going on in the states? Every bit of this stuff seems universally reviled except by the crazies on the right.

Is it a bandwagon thing? Oo.. we better get our bills in before the voters throw us all out? What is it? Every day is like being required to view the timecube.
2012-02-22 02:52:47 PM  
1 votes:

bigpeeler: Yeah, I guess you're right. Out of sight, out of mind.


You do have a point. I'm sure a woman considering abortion isn't, you know, considering abortion. She's probably forgotten why her legs are in the stirrups because she can't see fetus.
2012-02-22 02:52:44 PM  
1 votes:
There's a shiat-storm brewing, Randy...these shiat-asses are really stirring the shiatpot, and when the shiat hits the fan...we're in for some shiat.
2012-02-22 02:52:25 PM  
1 votes:

gerrymander: Rep. Deborah Mell, a Chicago Democrat, was one of the two members voting against the bills and criticized the assignment to a committee that generally handles farming issues.

"We're not talking about abortions for cows and pigs, right? We're talking about women?" she said.

Sweetie, anytime you want to reclassify a fetus as a person, be my guest. Until then, welcome to living by the rules you demanded, even when you're not smart enough to work out the full ramifications beforehand.


Actually, wouldn't you have to reclassify a fetus as livestock for it to be relevant to the business of the Agriculture Committee?

/Don't try the veal.
2012-02-22 02:52:11 PM  
1 votes:

gerrymander: Rep. Deborah Mell, a Chicago Democrat, was one of the two members voting against the bills and criticized the assignment to a committee that generally handles farming issues.

"We're not talking about abortions for cows and pigs, right? We're talking about women?" she said.

Sweetie, anytime you want to reclassify a fetus as a person, be my guest. Until then, welcome to living by the rules you demanded, even when you're not smart enough to work out the full ramifications beforehand.


Um, no. The woman involved in the procedure is a person, the fetus is not. We don't pass legislation about cancer therapy through an agriculture committee just because we don't classify a tumor as a person.

Go FAIL somewhere else.
2012-02-22 02:51:15 PM  
1 votes:

gerrymander: Rep. Deborah Mell, a Chicago Democrat, was one of the two members voting against the bills and criticized the assignment to a committee that generally handles farming issues.

"We're not talking about abortions for cows and pigs, right? We're talking about women?" she said.

Sweetie, anytime you want to reclassify a fetus as a person, be my guest. Until then, welcome to living by the rules you demanded, even when you're not smart enough to work out the full ramifications beforehand.


Perhaps she's classifying women as people, as opposed to livestock. Which, apparently, you don't.

/annoyed at Dems who do this shiat. Just switch parties and have done with it so people can vote in real liberals...
2012-02-22 02:49:41 PM  
1 votes:

Relatively Obscure: Vodka Zombie: Yeah. But, it was shuttled over to the conservative-heavy Ag Committee for passage.

That hardly excuses the sponsor.


I'm not saying that does. I just think that it's kind of telling in that in order to get this little slice of crazy out there, he had to buddy up to the lunatics.
2012-02-22 01:42:37 PM  
1 votes:
State Rep. Joseph Lyons, D-Chicago, sponsored the bill that would require medical professionals to ask if a patient wants to see the ultrasound before an abortion, if an ultrasound was performed.

Well then.
2012-02-22 01:22:12 PM  
1 votes:
There are a lot of D's mentioned in the article subby, stupidity knows no party-affiliation
 
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