I really love how the Republicans are so bent on dragging us back socially about a hundred years.

It really is refreshing. And exciting.

SN1987a goes boom: Ever notice how pro-life politicians tend to have kids that are more genetically screwed up? I mean they seem to have an umbalance of birth disorders when compared to the other side.

/I hate the life for the sake of life argument.

Other than Santorum and Palin, what other evidence do you have.

But wouldn't it naturally follow that pro-life people, who have an aversion to abortion, would have a greater percentage of genetically disabled kids? The pro-choice people have a choice if they find out about a birth defect, pro-lifers dont.

SN1987a goes boom: Ever notice how pro-life politicians tend to have kids that are more genetically screwed up?

It's like the chicken and the egg question...except the chicken is a fundie and the egg is genetically mutated and short a handful of chromosomes.

This is a better article. Shows one example of the miracle of prenatal testing. Babies that had the opposite type of blood than the mother (positive/negative) almost always died soon after being born, but now with prenatal testing almost all survive.

SANTORUM'S POLICIES WOULD HAVE KILLED MY DAUGHTER (new window)

Is all of this really happening? I'm not sure...
Did I fall into some alternate parallel reality where potential leaders of the free world are trying to drive public policy back in time?
I can't believe this is being said out loud.

Nadie_AZ: Diane knows how to interview. Too bad her voice is shot to sh*t.

These. Excellent interviewer, but I always think of Dana Carvey doing his Katherine Hepburn impression.

Does this asshole know that women can vote?

Why the fark are morons like this clown allowed anywhere near any kind of power? This farktard shouldn't be running a goddamn lemonade stand.

My question is this: On the off chance that Santorum wins the election, how would I go about seeking political asylum in another country? I speak Spanish and English. Most of South America is right out and Canada is too cold. I enjoy England. I know Spain is going through some turmoil right now but they have good food and make some dynamite cinema so that's an option.

/Rick Santorum's stupid... it hurts!!!

don't understand: Does this asshole know that women can vote?

He knows. He hates that they can, but he knows.

don't understand: Does this asshole know that women can vote?

That's tomorrow's issue.

If Santorum were, for some inexplicable reason, to win the presidency, at least the United States would have it's first gay president.

quickdraw: Diogenes: Weaver95: As Santorum noted, studies show that in the vast majority of cases where amniocentesis reveals Down syndrome, women decide on abortion.

I still don't get why this is a problem...?

Eugenics!!!!!

That's my guess.

He's counting on marshalling a vast army of troops with Downs to march on major US cities to combat sin.

With their super Downs Strength, we won't stand a chance!

Dictatorial_Flair: Why the fark are morons like this clown allowed anywhere near any kind of power? This farktard shouldn't be running a goddamn lemonade stand.

Because all the smart people have abortions, or are too busy, disinterested to vote.

Weaver95: As Santorum noted, studies show that in the vast majority of cases where amniocentesis reveals Down syndrome, women decide on abortion.

I still don't get why this is a problem...?

Because we're going to run out of capable GOP leaders.

germ78: Are these stories repeats or is Santorum going double-down on full retard?

/I can't tell anymore

Double down? He went "all in" about 2006.

Lionel Mandrake: I have a question for "pro-lifers" in re pre-natal screenings.

If you could tell early - or at any time, really - that an embryo had a terrible disorder (which then became a fetus with a terrible disorder, which then became a baby with a terrible disorder), yet you insist that it be carried to term in accordance with your "pro-life" views, how do you justify letting embryos with, say, Tay-Sachs Disease develop and come into the world?

FYI: Tay-Sachs is a degenerative disorder that systematically destroys all physical and cognitive abilities. Most afflicted die before their fourth birthday. Most of the preceding time was "lived" with respirators, feeding tubes (having lost the ability to swallow or breathe). Sufferers are often doped into a coma to avoid the excruciating pain of their condition.

Very, very few live beyond four years, and most of those years are spent heavily drugged and on life-support.

If you could tell, from pre-natal screening, that your child-to-be was affected with T-S and would live a short life of constant pain, then die before he was four, would it be moral to carry that fetus to term?

Tay-Sachs only affects heebs, so it's not something that is problematic or contradictory to Rick Santorum or his followers. They probably see it as a divine punishment for our role in killing Christ.

mrshowrules: In fairness to the GOP, more downs syndrome births today means more potential GOP voters tomorrow.

If my currently unborn niece ends up voting GOP, I'm going to cry.

don't understand: Does this asshole know that women can vote?

He's working on that too, I'm sure.

blackminded: Nadie_AZ: Diane knows how to interview. Too bad her voice is shot to sh*t.

These. Excellent interviewer, but I always think of Dana Carvey doing his Katherine Hepburn impression.

I love her show, but damn is she isn't difficult to listen to. Is it widely known why her voice is so weak?

Let's be honest, there are some babies so defective they should not be born. It is cruel to parent(s) and child to make that baby be born. Prenatal testing is a godsend...for when god makes tiny little mistakes in his calculations. Like too many or few chromosomes, too few heads, or the absence of a soul. But enough about Gingers...

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Tay-Sachs only affects heebs, so it's not something that is problematic or contradictory to Rick Santorum or his followers. They probably see it as a divine punishment for our role in killing Christ.

I had to Google this. I like it when white people teach me new racial slurs.

CaptainCliche: Is it widely known why her voice is so weak?

Yep (new window). Basically palsy of the vocal cords. I heard her discussing it last year sometime.

I truly hope he gets the Republican nomination. I hope that the higher powers of the Republican Party get to harvest all of the fruits from the tree that they've planted and truly know that what they have created and nurtured over the last few years has bloomed, produced fruit and is ready for picking. I look forward to them eating that fruit, biting and savoring every piece as they taste all of the greed, cynicism, hypocrisy, and hate that they poured into it all these years, and ultimately, the loss they'll have to endure due to their own drive to win at all costs. I hope that as they have their faces buried in that fruit, with it smeared on their faces and dribbling down their chins, they say to themselves, "fark me, this tastes like Santorum."

"Santorum charges that the law requiring insurers to cover the tests is a way to encourage more women to have abortions that will "cull the ranks of the disabled in our society." "

No, Rick, but it is certainly a way to get women to pay for things they might not ever have a chance of needing or want so that's pretty sweet.

I wish people would stop their war on women and just remove their choice in these matters like decent folks.

Maybe Santorum needs an excommunication from the church he's exploiting.


He'd bolt to Pat Robertson's "evangelicals" as fast as you could write a check.

It's not just his views - it's the fact that he likes to play doctor. (Mindbleach, sorry). I meant that he tosses completely erroneous medical information around like fact. In this case, his assertion that amniocentisis actually causes abortions in some mythical majority of cases. Even Bachmann didn't go that far in the quest for the perfection of the absolute untruth.

Oh man. That headline made me think of the pro-wrestling episode of South Park.
"I've just become.. addicted to abortions. My body, my choice."

skullkrusher: "Santorum charges that the law requiring insurers to cover the tests is a way to encourage more women to have abortions that will "cull the ranks of the disabled in our society." "

No, Rick, but it is certainly a way to get women to pay for things they might not ever have a chance of needing or want so that's pretty sweet.

I wish people would stop their war on women and just remove their choice in these matters like decent folks.

So now you are against the idea of health insurance entirely?

Gotta share this one:
Sh*t Santorum Says

JimbobMcClan: quickdraw: Diogenes: Weaver95: As Santorum noted, studies show that in the vast majority of cases where amniocentesis reveals Down syndrome, women decide on abortion.

I still don't get why this is a problem...?

Eugenics!!!!!

That's my guess.

He's counting on marshalling a vast army of troops with Downs to march on major US cities to combat sin.

With their super Downs Strength, we won't stand a chance!

I really want to post a picture of Bradley from Workaholics in his cop uniform in response to this, but a GIS comes up negative.

Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: "Santorum charges that the law requiring insurers to cover the tests is a way to encourage more women to have abortions that will "cull the ranks of the disabled in our society." "

No, Rick, but it is certainly a way to get women to pay for things they might not ever have a chance of needing or want so that's pretty sweet.

I wish people would stop their war on women and just remove their choice in these matters like decent folks.

So now you are against the idea of health insurance entirely?

no, why would you say that?

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: skullkrusher: "Santorum charges that the law requiring insurers to cover the tests is a way to encourage more women to have abortions that will "cull the ranks of the disabled in our society." "

No, Rick, but it is certainly a way to get women to pay for things they might not ever have a chance of needing or want so that's pretty sweet.

I wish people would stop their war on women and just remove their choice in these matters like decent folks.

So now you are against the idea of health insurance entirely?

no, why would you say that?

If the line I bolded was meant to be snarky, it seems that anything covered by health insurance would come under the category of "pay(ing) for things they might not ever have a chance of needing or want ".

War on women? Nice try subby.

Women shouldn't fight in war.

Diogenes: One miscarriage and one kid with a fatal genetic disorder.

That's all there is to say really.

That guy has some major psychological issues. Textbook.

Philip Francis Queeg: If the line I bolded was meant to be snarky, it seems that anything covered by health insurance would come under the category of "pay(ing) for things they might not ever have a chance of needing or want ".

not ever have a chance of needing. A women who has had a hysterectomy will never have a chance of needing prenatal testing. A woman past menopause - no need for prenatal testing. A woman who has no plans to have children, has had her tubes tied, infertility, would abort immediately whatever... much less likely to become pregnant and perhaps paying the extra for the prenatal testing coverage makes no sense. A woman who would not want prenatal testing regardless of the circumstances... why must they pay the extra because the insurance company has been ordered to provide her with something she may not want. Want to make a law that says that insurance has to make it available as an option? Most of my issues go away.

For someone who's wife had the freedom to CHOOSE to have an abortion, he certainly wants to take that choice away from everyone else

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: If the line I bolded was meant to be snarky, it seems that anything covered by health insurance would come under the category of "pay(ing) for things they might not ever have a chance of needing or want ".

not ever have a chance of needing. A women who has had a hysterectomy will never have a chance of needing prenatal testing. A woman past menopause - no need for prenatal testing. A woman who has no plans to have children, has had her tubes tied, infertility, would abort immediately whatever... much less likely to become pregnant and perhaps paying the extra for the prenatal testing coverage makes no sense. A woman who would not want prenatal testing regardless of the circumstances... why must they pay the extra because the insurance company has been ordered to provide her with something she may not want. Want to make a law that says that insurance has to make it available as an option? Most of my issues go away.

Good point. Why should you have to pay for coverage for testicular cancer when you might have been castrated? Let your insurance company charge you extra for that if you want that sort of luxury coverage.

SN1987a goes boom: Ever notice how pro-life politicians tend to have kids that are more genetically screwed up?

Probably because when they find out about the defect, they dont abort (bieng pro-life and all).

It'd be interesting to see who aborts and who doesnt if and when homosexuality (or a strong tendency for it at least) becomes detectable in the womb.

blackminded: Bill_Wick's_Friend: Tay-Sachs only affects heebs, so it's not something that is problematic or contradictory to Rick Santorum or his followers. They probably see it as a divine punishment for our role in killing Christ.

I had to Google this. I like it when white people teach me new racial slurs.

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Not a NOFX fan then huh?

Diogenes: One miscarriageabortion and one kid with a fatal genetic disorder.

That's all there is to say really.

The fetus was too early to be viable and his extremely ill wife was given a labor-inducing drug.

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: If the line I bolded was meant to be snarky, it seems that anything covered by health insurance would come under the category of "pay(ing) for things they might not ever have a chance of needing or want ".

not ever have a chance of needing. A women who has had a hysterectomy will never have a chance of needing prenatal testing. A woman past menopause - no need for prenatal testing. A woman who has no plans to have children, has had her tubes tied, infertility, would abort immediately whatever... much less likely to become pregnant and perhaps paying the extra for the prenatal testing coverage makes no sense. A woman who would not want prenatal testing regardless of the circumstances... why must they pay the extra because the insurance company has been ordered to provide her with something she may not want. Want to make a law that says that insurance has to make it available as an option? Most of my issues go away.

I'm confused. Does insurance in the US operate on some principle other than risk pooling?

apoptotic: I'm confused. Does insurance in the US operate on some principle other than risk pooling?

sure it does. We are also not required to buy auto insurance if we don't drive. Doesn't stop the risk from being pooled for those who do though

FTA:
"Santorum charges that the law requiring insurers to cover the tests is a way to encourage more women to have abortions that will "cull the ranks of the disabled in our society." "

Sweet Jesus in a sidecar, I sure wish someone had done SOMETHING to cull the ranks of the Santorums in our society roughly 53 1/2 years ago...

apoptotic: skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: If the line I bolded was meant to be snarky, it seems that anything covered by health insurance would come under the category of "pay(ing) for things they might not ever have a chance of needing or want ".

not ever have a chance of needing. A women who has had a hysterectomy will never have a chance of needing prenatal testing. A woman past menopause - no need for prenatal testing. A woman who has no plans to have children, has had her tubes tied, infertility, would abort immediately whatever... much less likely to become pregnant and perhaps paying the extra for the prenatal testing coverage makes no sense. A woman who would not want prenatal testing regardless of the circumstances... why must they pay the extra because the insurance company has been ordered to provide her with something she may not want. Want to make a law that says that insurance has to make it available as an option? Most of my issues go away.

I'm confused. Does insurance in the US operate on some principle other than risk pooling?

Some people really don't understand how insurance underwriting works.