SlothB77: Christie is right. Buffett is all about other people giving the government more money. Instead, maybe Buffett could mind his own business. If he thinks the government needs more money, he can write them a personal check. No one is stopping him. He can afford it.

Not everyone wants to do that though, and it isn't Buffett's business to force them. Buffett can stop talking about his secretary, etc, and start writing checks. And if he thinks his secretary pays too much in taxes, he can pay her more.


I see you're as ignorant as Christie.

Warren Buffett is not asking others to pay more, but not himself. That would be hypocritical. Nor is he voluntarily giving more all by himself. That would accomplish nothing. You see, he's neither hypocritical nor stupid. He is advocating a change that will actually do something.

As for your second "point," Buffett isn't in a position to force anyone to do anything. He's a private citizen. All he's doing is expressing an opinion. It always flabbergasts me when self-proclaimed patriots get their panties in a bunch simply because someone has the temerity to exercise their right to free speech. You want Buffett to shut up? Why? Who is allowed to speak in the United States of your fantasies? Only people who agree with you?

Warren Buffett is a man who lives in a country that at least on the surface claims to be a democracy with certain rights, one of which is free speech. He is exercising that right. He is asking for a change. The rest of us can agree or disagree. If the lawmakers like Buffett's idea but you do not, you can vote them out. This is all in accordance with how things are supposed to work in this country. Why does that bother you so much?

If Christie believes the wealthiest people are paying too much taxes, he should cut them a check and shut up.

SlothB77: Christie is right. Buffett is all about other people giving the government more money. Instead, maybe Buffett could mind his own business. If he thinks the government needs more money, he can write them a personal check. No one is stopping him. He can afford it.

Not everyone wants to do that though, and it isn't Buffett's business to force them. Buffett can stop talking about his secretary, etc, and start writing checks. And if he thinks his secretary pays too much in taxes, he can pay her more.

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Ok, I will be one of the idiots who bite. It is his business, in a Democracy it is everybody's business and everybody has a right to say whatever the Fark they want.

/Like it or not

timujin: so, if someone thinks that taxes are too low, they should just pay more? But if someone thinks taxes are too high, they should spend a shiat ton of money trying to get them lower? Like this guy did?

In fact, I think all taxes should be voluntary. If you like things like education and crappy tap water and giving stuff to poor people then you should just shut up and you pay for it. I already got mine.

""I'm so tired of talking about Warren Buffett," Christie said. "What are you going to bring up next, his secretary?""

Umm, yeah Chris. That's still a glaring unfairness in our "progressive" tax code. Just because you've heard it a bunch of times doesn't mean it is no longer applicable

skullkrusher: yes, that's when I responded that you should condescend less when being this stupid. Which is all the time... maybe no more condescension for you?

Seems unlikely. I mean really, look at your posts. You're not actually having a real discussion here. We're just farkin around with each other. Just look:

skullkrusher: I think Buffett's can what?

You absolutely could have figured out what that post meant.

skullkrusher: It has a negligible impact on the national level.
lennavan: So you think Buffett can?

It doesn't take a super genius to figure out what I was referring to. But you're pretending not to. Rather than have an actual discussion, we're just farkin around with each other. This was just your turn. Well done being a douche by the way.

This is why you and I have that running gag "you'll figure it out." It's a pattern with you. When you want to be a douche, you pretend to not understand someone. To which I enjoy replying with a reference to "you'll figure it out."

skullkrusher: ah, I thought his focus was to help the poor?

Well done sir. You baited the goalposts at Buffett paying money to the government. So when I pulled out government deficit numbers, you switched the goalposts with a completely different set! I just barely caught it!

skullkrusher: he stated his blah blah blah

None of this addresses the point I was making. You know this, you went on a pedantic rant about how we don't know A_I's exact income. Your projecting your pedantic bullshiat on me, SK. Well done again, good sir, combining multiple methods into one post. Pedantic bullshiat and projection.

So in one post:

1) you pretended to not understand what I wrote, even though it was amazingly clear.
2) you shifted your goalposts
3) you ignored my reply and instead came out with some irrelevant, pedantic bullshiat and projected it on to me

I mean, you don't actually wonder why people call you a troll, do you?

skullkrusher: and he'd rather keep his money than do his part to pay down the deficit

According to the federal government he is doing his part.

skullkrusher: as long as doing that part is voluntary

And he has demonstrated just how well keeping it voluntary will be. What you're asking for is a stupid symbolic gesture. What Buffett is asking for is meaningful change.

skullkrusher: A_I isn't advocating for higher taxes. In fact

You missed the point. Just like you suggested to A_I that his money is better spent at a charity, Buffett clearly feels the same way. Why should Buffett volunteer to pay higher taxes, helping everyone out, when he feels his money is better spent sent to charities to help just the poor out?

That's the point, call it class warfare if you like, Buffett doesn't want to help everyone, he only wants to help out the lower classes.

Satan pays a 0% tax rate.

YOU CANT EXPLAIN THAT

skullkrusher: Buffett should send some extra money to the government if he believes that is the right thing to do while encouraging an increase in the mandated tax levies. Not sure what he's waiting for. Every little bit helps.

Even the super wealthy who support higher taxes won't volunteer to pay more so what we should do is give tax cuts for the rich and continue to raise taxes on the middle class.

soy_bomb: Any reason that Berkshire Hathaway can't pay its back taxes Mr. Buffett?

Berkshire Hathaway is a corporation.

A corporation is a person.

Take it up with that person, not Mr. Buffett.

And, as far as back taxes...you apparently have no farking idea how corporate taxes work. They can drag that shiat out for a LOOOONG time.

domenad: Derpy Farker: Warren Buffet is so right about millionaires! They should pay more taxes!Me: Okay, then he should write a check and pay more.Derpy Farker: What a stupid argument!Makes perfect sense to me.I'M SIMPLE AND I LIKE IT!!!

tenpoundsofcheese: SlothB77: Christie is right. Buffett is all about other people giving the government more money. Instead, maybe Buffett could mind his own business. If he thinks the government needs more money, he can write them a personal check. No one is stopping him. He can afford it.

Not everyone wants to do that though, and it isn't Buffett's business to force them. Buffett can stop talking about his secretary, etc, and start writing checks. And if he thinks his secretary pays too much in taxes, he can pay her more.

The secretary thing is a farce. She is either sitting on a bunch of stock or sold a bunch of stock that got taxed at the capital gains rate. Or do people think that she has just been paid a straight salary for the last 20-30 years?

Why do you assume he's had the same secretary for 20-30 years? Considering the size of the probable workload, he probably has 2-3 at a time, and has rotated through quite a few over the decades.

Christ, his secretary probably makes a good living, that's not the farking point. The point is that it's unfair to tax income from wages differently than income from investments because of the disparity between who can benefit from these types of income.

Hear hear. If Buffet feels he isn't paying enough, instead of raising taxes or biatching that he isn't being taxed enough he should just STFU and head over to:

http://www.fms.treas.gov/faq/moretopics_gifts.html

The federal government is waiting.

Oh hey Warren, any news about how your rating agency contributed to the housing crash by not doing their due diligence on those default swaps?

I didn't really expect Governor Harkonnen to be terribly sympathetic on the whole wealth disparity thing.

Can both STFU?

I didn't see Warren giving away any money until he owned the whole damn monopoly board. Just write a check and STFU about your millionaire secretary.

Christ Christie. One of the biggest pieces of shiat in New Jersey, and that's really saying something.

Saying that Buffet should just write a check shows that Christie either doesn't know about, or doesn't care about, the entire arguement... that the government, by way of disparity in taxing income from work versus income from investment, disincentivizes work. The Republican party claims they want more people to work instead of living off the government dole... if that's the case, why is it the only tax hike they've been trying to push the last 8 years is a payroll tax hike? They talk about the value of hard work when all they want to do is tax away any reward you might get so they can give your money back to your employer.

Minimally Hairy Beer-Powered Simian: Christie is likeable enough, and if I lived in NJ I might be inclined to vote for him.....but on this issue he's a giant, bloated prick.

Only this issue? Not gay marriage, too?

Minimally Hairy Beer-Powered Simian: Christie is likeable enough, and if I lived in NJ I might be inclined to vote for him.....but on this issue he's a giant, bloated prick.

You are correct. Mr. Christie is also a "giant, bloated prick" regarding rights for same-sex couples and regarding civilian firearm ownership rights.

Upon what issues is Mr. Christie not a "giant, bloated prick"?

Oh, Chris. You're so tough. You're such a bad boy. You don't care whose toes you step on. You are totally in our face!