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2012-02-22 03:27:42 PM

snuffydaman: The thing that raises my eyebrow is she can't deploy because of her age; then why the fark are they letting her in the Army?


Where'd you get this? We were deploying soldiers several years older than this in Iraq and Afghanistan. I friend of mine went and he was 55. This may be a reg on the books, but during time of war, the Army will gladly rescind any reg that gets in its way.
 
2012-02-22 03:43:15 PM
I printed the article because a few days ago I sat in on a meeting of an organization whose primary purpose of existence is supposed to be opposition to war/promoting peace and listened to some dingbat advocate for U.S. military intervention in Syria.

I normally can't attend such meetings, but if it happens again; I hope to have the article with me. I intend to whip it out and offer to escort her to the closest recruiting office.
 
2012-02-22 04:23:47 PM

I'll try to say this without being snarky, so please understand I'm asking seriously. Have you ever been on an Army post? I mean a full sized one with a motor pool that could fill a few football fields, hospital that is the tallest building on post, and acres and acres of supply depots? Army still needs quartermasters, mechanics, office workers, doctors/nurses/radiation techs, etc. Plus with all the bases we have around the world she may not 'deploy' but she could end up in Germany, Japan, whatever. I DNRTFA, but depending what she chose for her MOS she could be sorely needed in a job we'd never hire a local civilian for over seas, like overseeing ammunition and firearms or other sensitive items.

As I always understood it, all Army soldiers train with weapons and the other physical stuff because you could end up anywhere in the world and you never know when your HQ could get overrun, so its not so much about chances of deployment, it's prudence. That and it instills discipline in a lot of people who've never had it.


No problem, I have been in the Army for 16 years, deployed, served overseas, etc.
I understand that not every Soldier kicks in doors for a living and chases Tommy Taliban up the mountainside.

All that being said, I still think it is waste of time to enlist a Soldier as a SGT who has no Army experience, is over 50 and from what I read in the article is not going to deploy.

There is going to be a tremendous finnancial liability that you and I as tax payers will incur should she get hurt or become ill; and the fact is at 50+ it is probably more likely than not.

FTA: "Coast will not serve in active duty situations, due to her age, but instead serve with a virtual unit that works by phone and internet"

Sounds like she is a "Virtual Soldier"
 
2012-02-22 04:24:40 PM

JackieRabbit: snuffydaman: The thing that raises my eyebrow is she can't deploy because of her age; then why the fark are they letting her in the Army?

Where'd you get this? We were deploying soldiers several years older than this in Iraq and Afghanistan. I friend of mine went and he was 55. This may be a reg on the books, but during time of war, the Army will gladly rescind any reg that gets in its way.


FTA: "Coast will not serve in active duty situations, due to her age, but instead serve with a virtual unit that works by phone and internet"
 
2012-02-22 04:45:38 PM

snuffydaman:

There is going to be a tremendous finnancial liability that you and I as tax payers will incur should she get hurt or become ill; and the fact is at 50+ it is probably more likely than not.



While that is certainly a possibility, approximately half of my last Reserves unit was over 50 and most of them had deployed over the last 10 years - mostly to Leonardwood, because they were an engineer training unit, but at least a few when to Iraq and Afghanistan. Some of them were still out and about on deployments when I ETSed last spring. So really that logic would have to apply to all of them as well...
 
2012-02-22 05:31:58 PM
Triple Yowza, also Semper Fi since she's also a Marine Mom! Who cares if she won't be deployed, Army still needs Admin Types which is what she'll almost certainly be. You Rock, New Sgt!!! Tnx vy much for your additional service!
 
2012-02-22 05:40:13 PM
Work at a "virtual" Military site? What B.S. The military is in the process of actively discharging good men and women who got hurt serving their country - what job is she going to do that a soldier that lost his legs couldn't do? This is "feel good" PC garbage.
 
2012-02-22 06:09:32 PM

snuffydaman: Nurglitch: trekkiecougar: cryinoutloud: Mateorocks: The basic training PT test passing thresholds for a 51-year-old woman must be pretty funny.
10 push ups in two minutes?
10 sit ups in two minutes?
2 mile run in under an hour?


51 Year Old Female
Minimum Run time 2 miles: 24 minutes
Minimum Push-Ups: 10
Minimum Sit-ups: 32


The thing that raises my eyebrow is she can't deploy because of her age; then why the fark are they letting her in the Army? Why have her qualify with her weapon? I mean she isn't going out to meet the enemy; sounds like her job should be done by a civilian.

No worries though, we will just keep sending the same Soldiers over and over again. Thanks for the help "Marine Mom"



During 90s they turned the military into a job corps for single parents and basic training for all the services into a co-ed summer camp experience (Except for the Marine Corps and the combat arms OUST for the Army)

I think that pregnant service memebers and single parents have done more harm to military readiness than the gheys ever will.

I do not believe that motherhood and being a professional military person are compatible; either the children or the military suffers. Or more often both suffer. Pick one or the other women because the military is one place where you really canot have it all.

One of these days the social engineering crowd wil realize that the military is not like a 9-5 job at Whole Foods or and assembly line job at GM but a special social organization as well as profession with uniques demands placed upon those who wish to be a part of it. There is a reason it has its own justice system.
 
2012-02-22 07:01:24 PM

Iknhaton: vudukungfu: fappomatic: Being close to her age, I am very interested in her lawn, subby.

yeah, I'm 55, so is she hot? Does she trim the hedges?

Vudu, I just checked out Cabin46. Some good stuff there!


Tha's me with the sword, pistol, guitar, tamborine, mink coat, wearing a wig, with the nachakus.
 
2012-02-22 07:03:59 PM
Smashing the guitar, in the leather jacket, etc.
 
2012-02-22 07:04:44 PM
donated my hair since then and took off 13 #
 
2012-02-22 08:07:07 PM

ladyfortuna: snuffydaman:

There is going to be a tremendous finnancial liability that you and I as tax payers will incur should she get hurt or become ill; and the fact is at 50+ it is probably more likely than not.



While that is certainly a possibility, approximately half of my last Reserves unit was over 50 and most of them had deployed over the last 10 years - mostly to Leonardwood, because they were an engineer training unit, but at least a few when to Iraq and Afghanistan. Some of them were still out and about on deployments when I ETSed last spring. So really that logic would have to apply to all of them as well...


I don't think we should be applying the same standard to Soldiers who have continuous service records. If we did that we would lose valuable senior leaders whose experience and mentorship help shape our future Soldiers. This 51 year old possesses neither the Combat or Army experience to lead, educate and mentor her subordinates with first hand knowledge. If non of those items are of concern for her duty position, then why is it a military position and not filled by a civilian?

To be clear I am saying that the Army should not be enlisting 51 year old's when the job they are slotted to fill could possibly be filled with Combat wounded/injured Soldiers.

I also have an issue with enlisting her as a SGT with no previous Army experience. We have SPC's and below with multiple combat tours who could be promoted into those positions.

Just so I am not being totally negative here, she has done more than I would have expected.She Soldiered up and did what the Army asked; I have seen people half her age balk at the idea of going back to basic training.(they were prior service Navy and Air Force).

I wish her a long and successful career, I just think that the risks aren't worth the benefits of bringing her into the Army.
 
2012-02-23 01:31:55 AM
First letting gays in the military, letting women into combat situations, and now this: "Coast will not serve in active duty situations, due to her age, but instead serve with a virtual unit that works by phone and internet"

Thank you Obama, you rock!
 
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