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2012-02-22 11:46:43 AM  
Being close to her age, I am very interested in her lawn, subby.
 
2012-02-22 11:46:53 AM  
Old news.. next you will tell me she's dating Ashton Kutcher...
 
2012-02-22 11:47:12 AM  
MILF?
 
2012-02-22 11:50:04 AM  
I was thirty one when I went through boot camp, and I was older than all of the drill sargeants. When I was being picked up from boot camp, during the Christmas break..called the Exodus, my now ex-wife who was 10 years older than me came to Fort Jackson to pick me up. Some young sargeant gets who she's looking for, and yells out in a crowded room, W*** (my last name), YOUR MOTHER'S HERE! To tell, it wasn't a good ride back down to Flawiduh.
 
2012-02-22 11:50:51 AM  

fappomatic: Being close to her age, I am very interested in her lawn, subby.


I'm sure there's grass on it.
 
2012-02-22 11:51:34 AM  
I thought there was age limits.
 
2012-02-22 11:52:35 AM  

s1ugg0: I thought there was age limits.


FTFA: Coast served in the Navy from 1982 to 1993, so she was allowed to enter military service at her age, whereas most civilians would not be eligible.
 
2012-02-22 11:52:54 AM  
FTFA: "Everybody in the world thinks I am a total nutcase," she told AFPS.

Lady, most people in the world don't give a fark what you do.
 
2012-02-22 11:53:15 AM  

s1ugg0: I thought there was age limits.


FTFA: Coast served in the Navy from 1982 to 1993, so she was allowed to enter military service at her age, whereas most civilians would not be eligible.
 
2012-02-22 11:54:33 AM  
Crap, too slow. Sorry, Tom. I think it's great that she's signing up again. I wonder why the huge gap though from her Navy service until her Army service?
 
2012-02-22 11:55:57 AM  

s1ugg0: I thought there was age limits.


Weight limits, RTFA
 
2012-02-22 11:56:33 AM  

fappomatic: Being close to her age, I am very interested in her lawn, subby.


yeah, I'm 55, so is she hot? Does she trim the hedges?
 
2012-02-22 11:56:47 AM  
51 isn't even considered old anymore.
 
2012-02-22 11:58:10 AM  
She had served previously so she was able to go through boot camp. I want to go through boot camp but since I'm just a civilian aged 47 I'm not eligible

/in pretty damn good shape now from lifting weights and running (have run the Army Ten Miler 3 times and am training for a marathon
//my Warrior (and love of my life), a retired Army Special Forces dude and current Pentagon drone, says that if I had entered the Army back when he did I'd be a General by now
 
2012-02-22 12:00:21 PM  
See! It's true that Ron Paul would make a Great President.
 
2012-02-22 12:01:10 PM  

s1ugg0: I thought there was age limits.


there use to be, but they have dropped the requirements greatly. go-fasters instead of boots etc...
/back in my day we had to hump it up hill both ways
/get off her lawn
 
2012-02-22 12:02:19 PM  
WHAR PICS WHAR
 
2012-02-22 12:03:38 PM  
She had to apply three times and she had to put up with a ton of shiat, but when she threatened to resign, they gave it to her. The next youngest girl in her class was half her age. They must have thought she was some far-out old woman humping it over that course. I did it when I was 19 and it damn near wasted me. A tough motherfarker. She finished. She could have gone for Admiral, but she went for herself instead.
 
2012-02-22 12:06:53 PM  
The basic training PT test passing thresholds for a 51-year-old woman must be pretty funny.

10 push ups in two minutes?
10 sit ups in two minutes?
2 mile run in under an hour?
 
2012-02-22 12:07:53 PM  
someone care to explain how she will serve in the virtual army and/or internet. does she get paid? accrue benefits? kick ass at games of war 3?
 
2012-02-22 12:10:55 PM  

vudukungfu: fappomatic: Being close to her age, I am very interested in her lawn, subby.

yeah, I'm 55, so is she hot? Does she trim the hedges?


Vudu, I just checked out Cabin46. Some good stuff there!
 
2012-02-22 12:12:37 PM  
Hey, it's a job. They must have changed the rules since I served. I changed branches and the Army didn't make me go through boot again. But this gal has been out for a while. It was probably a god idea to make her do it. Good for her. I sure wouldn't want to have to go through boot again.
 
2012-02-22 12:13:43 PM  
Pictures. (new window)
 
2012-02-22 12:14:03 PM  
downloads.thedaily.com
 
2012-02-22 12:14:42 PM  
Approves:

t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-02-22 12:15:30 PM  

Mateorocks: The basic training PT test passing thresholds for a 51-year-old woman must be pretty funny.
10 push ups in two minutes?
10 sit ups in two minutes?
2 mile run in under an hour?


I'm probably in better shape than you are, junior. But keep pounding on that keyboard if it makes you feel better.
 
2012-02-22 12:21:10 PM  

fappomatic: Being close to her age, I am very interested in her lawn, subby.

 
2012-02-22 12:23:18 PM  
Well, obviously she wasn't raped enough.

/bravo, grannie.
 
2012-02-22 12:28:29 PM  
I assume the lawn is camouflaged, probably in mossy oak.
 
2012-02-22 12:30:00 PM  

HallasHell: [downloads.thedaily.com image 640x491]


/ My interest
 
2012-02-22 12:31:44 PM  

cryinoutloud: Mateorocks: The basic training PT test passing thresholds for a 51-year-old woman must be pretty funny.
10 push ups in two minutes?
10 sit ups in two minutes?
2 mile run in under an hour?

I'm probably in better shape than you are, junior. But keep pounding on that keyboard if it makes you feel better.


I don't think my time in Benning in 1990 exactly makes me a junior, grandpa. I'm pointing out that the physical fitness test requirements in the army are far different for men and women, just as they are for teenagers and AARP members.

And yes, I'm in terrible shape right now.
 
2012-02-22 12:31:48 PM  
I have a cousin who loves camouflage. He'd buy everything if it came in Mossy Oak.

I assume he thinks it is slimming. Personally, I don't see it.
 
2012-02-22 12:32:46 PM  

cryinoutloud: Mateorocks: The basic training PT test passing thresholds for a 51-year-old woman must be pretty funny.
10 push ups in two minutes?
10 sit ups in two minutes?
2 mile run in under an hour?

I'm probably in better shape than you are, junior. But keep pounding on that keyboard if it makes you feel better.


I second that, cryinoutloud!

I've been seriously running for 4 years now. My average mile time is 11 mins 47 secs (my short runs are 6 - 8 miles and my long runs are 10-14 miles). Most mornings I do 50 sit-ups and 40 pushups (takes about 3 -4 minutes for all).

/yeah get off my lawn
//47 year old geezer
///old geezers unite!!!
 
2012-02-22 12:37:36 PM  

trekkiecougar: cryinoutloud: Mateorocks: The basic training PT test passing thresholds for a 51-year-old woman must be pretty funny.
10 push ups in two minutes?
10 sit ups in two minutes?
2 mile run in under an hour?

I'm probably in better shape than you are, junior. But keep pounding on that keyboard if it makes you feel better.

I second that, cryinoutloud!

I've been seriously running for 4 years now. My average mile time is 11 mins 47 secs (my short runs are 6 - 8 miles and my long runs are 10-14 miles). Most mornings I do 50 sit-ups and 40 pushups (takes about 3 -4 minutes for all).

/yeah get off my lawn
//47 year old geezer
///old geezers unite!!!


To be fair, a cougar that gets out of shape will starve to death if it can't run down its prey.
 
2012-02-22 12:39:42 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: fappomatic: Being close to her age, I am very interested in her lawn, subby.


Lawn or bush?
 
2012-02-22 12:41:03 PM  
Is she one of those "dino bots" from the earlier article?
 
2012-02-22 12:42:47 PM  
Did she have to wear the pregnancy-belly so she could better understand what it is like for pregnant women to do PT?
 
2012-02-22 12:47:16 PM  

howdyyall9999: She had to apply three times and she had to put up with a ton of shiat, but when she threatened to resign, they gave it to her. The next youngest girl in her class was half her age. They must have thought she was some far-out old woman humping it over that course. I did it when I was 19 and it damn near wasted me. A tough motherfarker. She finished. She could have gone for Admiral, but she went for herself instead.


Came to see this; leaving satisfied.
 
2012-02-22 01:14:22 PM  

trekkiecougar: cryinoutloud: Mateorocks: The basic training PT test passing thresholds for a 51-year-old woman must be pretty funny.
10 push ups in two minutes?
10 sit ups in two minutes?
2 mile run in under an hour?

I'm probably in better shape than you are, junior. But keep pounding on that keyboard if it makes you feel better.

I second that, cryinoutloud!

I've been seriously running for 4 years now. My average mile time is 11 mins 47 secs (my short runs are 6 - 8 miles and my long runs are 10-14 miles). Most mornings I do 50 sit-ups and 40 pushups (takes about 3 -4 minutes for all).

/yeah get off my lawn
//47 year old geezer
///old geezers unite!!!


@35 I maxed my final basic training PT test again.
2miles under 13min
80+pushups
100+sit ups
56yr old now
12min mile on eliptical these days

/amazed at how fast I once was
//yes,they called me "pops"
 
2012-02-22 01:17:33 PM  
Just making it obvious that troops =/= combat troops; just like relaxin' Jackson =/= Benning or even Leonard Wood.

It is actually 10 pushups yes, 9 next year. When they say outscored they do not mean outperformed.

Lets all embrace diversity. Credibility and effectiveness aren't that important.
 
2012-02-22 01:20:33 PM  

Nurglitch: trekkiecougar: cryinoutloud: Mateorocks: The basic training PT test passing thresholds for a 51-year-old woman must be pretty funny.
10 push ups in two minutes?
10 sit ups in two minutes?
2 mile run in under an hour?


51 Year Old Female
Minimum Run time 2 miles: 24 minutes
Minimum Push-Ups: 10
Minimum Sit-ups: 32


The thing that raises my eyebrow is she can't deploy because of her age; then why the fark are they letting her in the Army? Why have her qualify with her weapon? I mean she isn't going out to meet the enemy; sounds like her job should be done by a civilian.

No worries though, we will just keep sending the same Soldiers over and over again. Thanks for the help "Marine Mom"
 
2012-02-22 01:20:34 PM  
All that matters is that she is a tail-end boomer; that she has ruined your chances for happiness and should quit the army in order that some younger person should have an opportunity to kill. She burned too much oil and caused the national debt and is personally responsible for the right-wing facsist male agenda, because birthdate = evil.
 
2012-02-22 01:44:21 PM  
"The thing that raises my eyebrow is she can't deploy because of her age; then why the fark are they letting her in the Army? Why have her qualify with her weapon? I mean she isn't going out to meet the enemy; sounds like her job should be done by a civilian."

Regulations, no doubt, require she have weapon skills. There's nothing wrong with recruiting for people to do office work. I suspect a member of the services is cheaper than a civilian and has already proven her willingness and ability to get up early, show up on time, follow orders, and get the job done without a lot of whingeing.
 
2012-02-22 01:58:28 PM  
Granny don't need no stinkin' magazine
 
2012-02-22 02:08:58 PM  

snuffydaman: Nurglitch: trekkiecougar: cryinoutloud: Mateorocks:

The thing that raises my eyebrow is she can't deploy because of her age; then why the fark are they letting her in the Army? Why have her qualify with her weapon? I mean she isn't going out to meet the enemy; sounds like her job should be done by a civilian.


I'll try to say this without being snarky, so please understand I'm asking seriously. Have you ever been on an Army post? I mean a full sized one with a motor pool that could fill a few football fields, hospital that is the tallest building on post, and acres and acres of supply depots? Army still needs quartermasters, mechanics, office workers, doctors/nurses/radiation techs, etc. Plus with all the bases we have around the world she may not 'deploy' but she could end up in Germany, Japan, whatever. I DNRTFA, but depending what she chose for her MOS she could be sorely needed in a job we'd never hire a local civilian for over seas, like overseeing ammunition and firearms or other sensitive items.

As I always understood it, all Army soldiers train with weapons and the other physical stuff because you could end up anywhere in the world and you never know when your HQ could get overrun, so its not so much about chances of deployment, it's prudence. That and it instills discipline in a lot of people who've never had it.
 
2012-02-22 02:12:46 PM  

brantgoose: I have a cousin who loves camouflage. He'd buy everything if it came in Mossy Oak.

I assume he thinks it is slimming. Personally, I don't see it.


Oh, that's bad. That's bad. Slow golf clap to you.
 
2012-02-22 02:15:28 PM  
My mother turned 65 while she was serving in Iraq so I am getting kick out of this thread.
 
2012-02-22 02:18:18 PM  

Mateorocks: The basic training PT test passing thresholds for a 51-year-old woman must be pretty funny.

10 push ups in two minutes?
10 sit ups in two minutes?
2 mile run in under an hour?


Came in here to note that...my platoon leader at Ft. Stewart was female and very likely close in age to this NCO...I distinctly remember her jogging...well, speed walking (if that) for the 2 mile APFT test and she passed easily. She also couldn't do a proper push up to save her life.

Now, if this lady got the highest marks in the platoon on the 18-21 scale, I'd be impressed.

My personal best was 92 pushups, 103 situps, 12ish on the 2 mile. Can't recall the final APFT score but it was enough to have a patch. pretty sure it was over 290 to get one...

Honestly, not sure how they score the APFT now or if it's been modified (went through basic in late '95, got out in mid 99).
 
2012-02-22 02:26:28 PM  

strudelhausen: Just making it obvious that troops =/= combat troops; just like relaxin' Jackson =/= Benning or even Leonard Wood.

It is actually 10 pushups yes, 9 next year. When they say outscored they do not mean outperformed.

Lets all embrace diversity. Credibility and effectiveness aren't that important.


Yeah, my wife and I were both Army, she went to Camp Snoopy (Ft. Jackson) for basic, I went to Ft. Knox. Apparently there are some massive differences between places with male/female basic (Ft. Jackson) and all male (Knox, at the time...). Sure, the printed standards may be the same, but sheesh...I mentioned forced hydration coontil the DS witnessed you vomiting into the saw dust pit) and she seemed amazed...and yes, we'd get smoked in teh same sawdust after puking in it. Good times.
 
2012-02-22 02:29:48 PM  
Bravo for her. If I went back through Basic now it'd probably kill me.
 
2012-02-22 03:27:42 PM  

snuffydaman: The thing that raises my eyebrow is she can't deploy because of her age; then why the fark are they letting her in the Army?


Where'd you get this? We were deploying soldiers several years older than this in Iraq and Afghanistan. I friend of mine went and he was 55. This may be a reg on the books, but during time of war, the Army will gladly rescind any reg that gets in its way.
 
2012-02-22 03:43:15 PM  
I printed the article because a few days ago I sat in on a meeting of an organization whose primary purpose of existence is supposed to be opposition to war/promoting peace and listened to some dingbat advocate for U.S. military intervention in Syria.

I normally can't attend such meetings, but if it happens again; I hope to have the article with me. I intend to whip it out and offer to escort her to the closest recruiting office.
 
2012-02-22 04:23:47 PM  

I'll try to say this without being snarky, so please understand I'm asking seriously. Have you ever been on an Army post? I mean a full sized one with a motor pool that could fill a few football fields, hospital that is the tallest building on post, and acres and acres of supply depots? Army still needs quartermasters, mechanics, office workers, doctors/nurses/radiation techs, etc. Plus with all the bases we have around the world she may not 'deploy' but she could end up in Germany, Japan, whatever. I DNRTFA, but depending what she chose for her MOS she could be sorely needed in a job we'd never hire a local civilian for over seas, like overseeing ammunition and firearms or other sensitive items.

As I always understood it, all Army soldiers train with weapons and the other physical stuff because you could end up anywhere in the world and you never know when your HQ could get overrun, so its not so much about chances of deployment, it's prudence. That and it instills discipline in a lot of people who've never had it.


No problem, I have been in the Army for 16 years, deployed, served overseas, etc.
I understand that not every Soldier kicks in doors for a living and chases Tommy Taliban up the mountainside.

All that being said, I still think it is waste of time to enlist a Soldier as a SGT who has no Army experience, is over 50 and from what I read in the article is not going to deploy.

There is going to be a tremendous finnancial liability that you and I as tax payers will incur should she get hurt or become ill; and the fact is at 50+ it is probably more likely than not.

FTA: "Coast will not serve in active duty situations, due to her age, but instead serve with a virtual unit that works by phone and internet"

Sounds like she is a "Virtual Soldier"
 
2012-02-22 04:24:40 PM  

JackieRabbit: snuffydaman: The thing that raises my eyebrow is she can't deploy because of her age; then why the fark are they letting her in the Army?

Where'd you get this? We were deploying soldiers several years older than this in Iraq and Afghanistan. I friend of mine went and he was 55. This may be a reg on the books, but during time of war, the Army will gladly rescind any reg that gets in its way.


FTA: "Coast will not serve in active duty situations, due to her age, but instead serve with a virtual unit that works by phone and internet"
 
2012-02-22 04:45:38 PM  

snuffydaman:

There is going to be a tremendous finnancial liability that you and I as tax payers will incur should she get hurt or become ill; and the fact is at 50+ it is probably more likely than not.



While that is certainly a possibility, approximately half of my last Reserves unit was over 50 and most of them had deployed over the last 10 years - mostly to Leonardwood, because they were an engineer training unit, but at least a few when to Iraq and Afghanistan. Some of them were still out and about on deployments when I ETSed last spring. So really that logic would have to apply to all of them as well...
 
2012-02-22 05:31:58 PM  
Triple Yowza, also Semper Fi since she's also a Marine Mom! Who cares if she won't be deployed, Army still needs Admin Types which is what she'll almost certainly be. You Rock, New Sgt!!! Tnx vy much for your additional service!
 
2012-02-22 05:40:13 PM  
Work at a "virtual" Military site? What B.S. The military is in the process of actively discharging good men and women who got hurt serving their country - what job is she going to do that a soldier that lost his legs couldn't do? This is "feel good" PC garbage.
 
2012-02-22 06:09:32 PM  

snuffydaman: Nurglitch: trekkiecougar: cryinoutloud: Mateorocks: The basic training PT test passing thresholds for a 51-year-old woman must be pretty funny.
10 push ups in two minutes?
10 sit ups in two minutes?
2 mile run in under an hour?


51 Year Old Female
Minimum Run time 2 miles: 24 minutes
Minimum Push-Ups: 10
Minimum Sit-ups: 32


The thing that raises my eyebrow is she can't deploy because of her age; then why the fark are they letting her in the Army? Why have her qualify with her weapon? I mean she isn't going out to meet the enemy; sounds like her job should be done by a civilian.

No worries though, we will just keep sending the same Soldiers over and over again. Thanks for the help "Marine Mom"



During 90s they turned the military into a job corps for single parents and basic training for all the services into a co-ed summer camp experience (Except for the Marine Corps and the combat arms OUST for the Army)

I think that pregnant service memebers and single parents have done more harm to military readiness than the gheys ever will.

I do not believe that motherhood and being a professional military person are compatible; either the children or the military suffers. Or more often both suffer. Pick one or the other women because the military is one place where you really canot have it all.

One of these days the social engineering crowd wil realize that the military is not like a 9-5 job at Whole Foods or and assembly line job at GM but a special social organization as well as profession with uniques demands placed upon those who wish to be a part of it. There is a reason it has its own justice system.
 
2012-02-22 07:01:24 PM  

Iknhaton: vudukungfu: fappomatic: Being close to her age, I am very interested in her lawn, subby.

yeah, I'm 55, so is she hot? Does she trim the hedges?

Vudu, I just checked out Cabin46. Some good stuff there!


Tha's me with the sword, pistol, guitar, tamborine, mink coat, wearing a wig, with the nachakus.
 
2012-02-22 07:03:59 PM  
Smashing the guitar, in the leather jacket, etc.
 
2012-02-22 07:04:44 PM  
donated my hair since then and took off 13 #
 
2012-02-22 08:07:07 PM  

ladyfortuna: snuffydaman:

There is going to be a tremendous finnancial liability that you and I as tax payers will incur should she get hurt or become ill; and the fact is at 50+ it is probably more likely than not.

While that is certainly a possibility, approximately half of my last Reserves unit was over 50 and most of them had deployed over the last 10 years - mostly to Leonardwood, because they were an engineer training unit, but at least a few when to Iraq and Afghanistan. Some of them were still out and about on deployments when I ETSed last spring. So really that logic would have to apply to all of them as well...


I don't think we should be applying the same standard to Soldiers who have continuous service records. If we did that we would lose valuable senior leaders whose experience and mentorship help shape our future Soldiers. This 51 year old possesses neither the Combat or Army experience to lead, educate and mentor her subordinates with first hand knowledge. If non of those items are of concern for her duty position, then why is it a military position and not filled by a civilian?

To be clear I am saying that the Army should not be enlisting 51 year old's when the job they are slotted to fill could possibly be filled with Combat wounded/injured Soldiers.

I also have an issue with enlisting her as a SGT with no previous Army experience. We have SPC's and below with multiple combat tours who could be promoted into those positions.

Just so I am not being totally negative here, she has done more than I would have expected.She Soldiered up and did what the Army asked; I have seen people half her age balk at the idea of going back to basic training.(they were prior service Navy and Air Force).

I wish her a long and successful career, I just think that the risks aren't worth the benefits of bringing her into the Army.
 
2012-02-23 01:31:55 AM  
First letting gays in the military, letting women into combat situations, and now this: "Coast will not serve in active duty situations, due to her age, but instead serve with a virtual unit that works by phone and internet"

Thank you Obama, you rock!
 
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