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City sued for not approving a new IHOP. They take their pancakes pretty damn seriously down south
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AverageAmericanGuy
2012-02-22 07:16:09 AM
That's the IHOP developer's right, and it's the right way to handle a dispute like this.
I hope he gets thrown out on his ass by the judge, but at least he's using the appropriate venue for this kind of thing.
Jake Havechek
2012-02-22 09:39:11 AM
Gaear Grimsrud: Where is pancakes house?
Carl Showalter: What?
Gaear Grimsrud: We stop at pancakes house.
Carl Showalter: ...what're you nuts? We had pancakes for breakfast. Gotta go to a place I can get a shot and a beer, steak, maybe, not more farkin' pancakes, c'mon.
Oh, come on, man! Okay, here's an idea; we can stop outside of Brainerd, I know a place there we can get laid. Whaddya think?
Gaear Grimsrud: I'm farking hungry now, you know!
FeFiFoFark
2012-02-22 09:43:14 AM
The Waffle House makes IHOP look "international"
wildcardjack
2012-02-22 09:47:50 AM
Hmm... Comment in the article
I believe that side of Gunbarrel Road is not zoned for restaurants. If you look from Igou Gap Road down to E. Brainerd Road there isn't a single restaurant for a reason. All restaurants are on the other side. If that is what the zoning is there shouldn't be a dispute and Mr. Issa shouldn't be surprised. If he wanted to put a restaurant there he should have checked into it before he purchased the property.
I bet there a civil engineering reason here. I bet the large bore sewer and water lines are on the other side of the road.
CruJones
2012-02-22 09:47:59 AM
AverageAmericanGuy
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That's the IHOP developer's right, and it's the right way to handle a dispute like this.
I hope he gets thrown out on his ass by the judge, but at least he's using the appropriate venue for this kind of thing.
Considering there's a Target across the street, I don't think rezoning as commercial seems that out of bounds. I would bet the councilman has a house a street or two away. Seriously though, an Ihop isn't going to affect traffic, etc. in a significant way if it's right across from a Target and Earth Fare.
ScouserDuck
2012-02-22 09:56:16 AM
Anybody else think it awesome that there is a "Gunbarrel Road".
/easily amused
ihatedumbpeople
2012-02-22 10:02:08 AM
Sounds like someone is butthurt he bought a piece of land with that intent knowing it wasn't zoned properly ahead of time.
kvinesknows
2012-02-22 10:07:44 AM
CruJones
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AverageAmericanGuy: That's the IHOP developer's right, and it's the right way to handle a dispute like this.
I hope he gets thrown out on his ass by the judge, but at least he's using the appropriate venue for this kind of thing.
Considering there's a Target across the street, I don't think rezoning as commercial seems that out of bounds. I would bet the councilman has a house a street or two away. Seriously though, an Ihop isn't going to affect traffic, etc. in a significant way if it's right across from a Target and Earth Fare.
but once you rezone it, others will come.
If the city does not want to rezone. then it doesn't, cant get much more simple then that. A judge should NEVER have the power to overturn a councils wishes in regards to zoning. Only the electorate should have that power at election time.
KurtRoedeger
2012-02-22 10:08:01 AM
Developers rarely buy land without having zoning issues figured out. They just put themselves under contract to buy it pending approvals. A re-zoning appeal should look at a lot of factors that are just missing from the article, so I can't really feel strongly for either party. The fact that he's suing says he probably put in an effort to make a decent appeal. If there is a large commercial development on the other side of a fairly major road, it's not out of reason to make that request. There have been council members near me who have tried to stop development simply because they didn't want it, they were sued and lost.
/works for Civil Engineering firm
//first time using slashies
///they're fun
Bermuda59
2012-02-22 10:09:07 AM
The Waffle House lobby is pretty strong down South.
The Irresponsible Captain
2012-02-22 10:09:12 AM
I hope they don't waffle on the issue. It could really fry a man's nerves. I hope it's over easy.
wildcardjack
2012-02-22 10:10:28 AM
ScouserDuck
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Anybody else think it awesome that there is a "Gunbarrel Road".
/easily amused
You'd love it around Dallas then...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gun+barrel+city
(new window)
inflatedKarma
2012-02-22 10:10:44 AM
ScouserDuck
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Anybody else think it awesome that there is a "Gunbarrel Road".
/easily amused
nothing in TN surprises me. when I was a kid there was a street named "Lynching Tree Road" in the small town where I lived. as you probably guessed, it was named for a large tree where they use to lynch black that had spoken to white women or otherwise offended. they eventually renamed it, not because of any political correctness or sense of honor, but because the tree was knocked down by a tornado.
and I am sure everyone who has ever been drunk knows about Lynchburg, TN. it was named after a old beech tree that Thomas Roundtree, the original resident, use to lynch "people".
valkore
2012-02-22 10:11:44 AM
They take their
pancakes
biscuits and gravy
pretty damn seriously down south
FTFY. If you got in between a Southerner and his biscuits and gravy, you would be a dead man. And the court would find him not guilty. Especially if you were black.
BitwiseShift
2012-02-22 10:14:30 AM
Pancake stories are so yesterday.
The Loaf
2012-02-22 10:15:38 AM
wildcardjack
:
Hmm... Comment in the article
I believe that side of Gunbarrel Road is not zoned for restaurants. If you look from Igou Gap Road down to E. Brainerd Road there isn't a single restaurant for a reason. All restaurants are on the other side. If that is what the zoning is there shouldn't be a dispute and Mr. Issa shouldn't be surprised. If he wanted to put a restaurant there he should have checked into it before he purchased the property.
I bet there a civil engineering reason here. I bet the large bore sewer and water lines are on the other side of the road.
There're restaurants the next block up and a Hosipital on the next block down, I'd guess the sewer constraints are just fine for an IHOP.
Looks like there are houses right behind the would be IHOP--its more likely that Mr. Jones over on Faris Dr really doesn't want to deal with an influx of drunken louts in his backyard at 3:00 every morning and called his councilman.
The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves
2012-02-22 10:18:01 AM
It's funny all the fast food places down south have a chicken biscuit on the breakfast menu, but not up north. It would be better than the baconsausageegg biscuits.
ZekeMacNeil
2012-02-22 10:26:26 AM
kvinesknows
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If the city does not want to rezone. then it doesn't, cant get much more simple then that. A judge should NEVER have the power to overturn a councils wishes in regards to zoning. Only the electorate should have that power at election time.
Under Tennessee law, judges actually have wide latitude to overturn zoning ordinances, though in practice they rarely do.
"City Attorney Mike McMahan said Monday the city has a strong position and the courts usually side with the governing body on zoning matters." (
Chattanooga Times
(new window))
It bears mentioning that the East Brainerd district is suffering from a bad case of suburban sprawl and I don't think a whole lot of those residents want even more traffic headaches in this area.
GORDON
2012-02-22 10:26:36 AM
It took forever for Olive Garden to get a license to operate in Jacksonville, NC because they guy who owned the only (incredibly shiatty) Italian restaurant in town was on city council. What a coincidence.
kvinesknows
2012-02-22 10:28:25 AM
Now if the developer had used this video as proof it was something the residents wanted, he would have received his rezoning for almost certain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoKZhaigLQA&feature=player_embedded
I May Be Crazy But...
2012-02-22 10:30:49 AM
ScouserDuck
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Anybody else think it awesome that there is a "Gunbarrel Road".
/easily amused
There's a neighborhood in south Austin suburbia with road names like Shootout, Gatling Gun, Six Gun, Shotgun, etc. A little way off is Whiskey River. A larger road in the area (that's been there a lot longer) is Slaughter Lane, to the north.
Google Maps
(new window)
kvinesknows
2012-02-22 10:31:12 AM
ZekeMacNeil
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kvinesknows: If the city does not want to rezone. then it doesn't, cant get much more simple then that. A judge should NEVER have the power to overturn a councils wishes in regards to zoning. Only the electorate should have that power at election time.
Under Tennessee law, judges actually have wide latitude to overturn zoning ordinances, though in practice they rarely do.
"City Attorney Mike McMahan said Monday the city has a strong position and the courts usually side with the governing body on zoning matters." (Chattanooga Times (new window))
It bears mentioning that the East Brainerd district is suffering from a bad case of suburban sprawl and I don't think a whole lot of those residents want even more traffic headaches in this area.
A judge MIGHT have authority, but they never should have. I might agree with a Judge having authority IF it was that the council wanted to change it, but it was obvious residents did not (say putting industrial in the middle of a neighbourhood) but to overturn a status quo decision? It would have to be quite a substantial issue ( which a pancake house is most certainly not)
Zeno-25
2012-02-22 10:33:49 AM
Anything to keep those shiatty, monotonous chain restaurants down is fine with me.
BohemianGraham
2012-02-22 10:36:40 AM
BitwiseShift
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Pancake stories are so yesterday.
Was just coming in to say this.
Blushing Wall Flower
2012-02-22 10:39:38 AM
inflatedKarma
:
ScouserDuck: Anybody else think it awesome that there is a "Gunbarrel Road".
/easily amused
nothing in TN surprises me. when I was a kid there was a street named "Lynching Tree Road" in the small town where I lived. as you probably guessed, it was named for a large tree where they use to lynch black that had spoken to white women or otherwise offended. they eventually renamed it, not because of any political correctness or sense of honor, but because the tree was knocked down by a tornado.
and I am sure everyone who has ever been drunk knows about Lynchburg, TN. it was named after a old beech tree that Thomas Roundtree, the original resident, use to lynch "people".
Why would you put the word 'people' in quotes??
ToddMU03
2012-02-22 10:41:21 AM
Chattanoogy?!?
Another Government Employee
2012-02-22 11:00:45 AM
ScouserDuck
:
Anybody else think it awesome that there is a "Gunbarrel Road".
/easily amused
IIRC, there was an armament factory in that area around the Civil War. At least until Sherman appropriated all the inventory.
germ78
2012-02-22 11:06:14 AM
I thought as a rule there were no IHOPs south of the Mason-Dixon line?
LadyMech
2012-02-22 11:13:08 AM
Meh. Every IHOP I've ever been in has had something wrong with it. I either get cold pancakes, or it's too dirty, etc. Also, are all IHOPs super small? I don't want to hear about how your Aunt Irene had to have her foot cut off while I'm trying to enjoy some pancakes.
\Cold flapjacks are sad things.
Treetop1000
2012-02-22 11:16:55 AM
germ78
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I thought as a rule there were no IHOPs south of the Mason-Dixon line?
[o.onionstatic.com image 145x80]
There's one in Orlando that I know of.
Critch
2012-02-22 11:22:08 AM
LadyMech
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Meh. Every IHOP I've ever been in has had something wrong with it. I either get cold pancakes, or it's too dirty, etc. Also, are all IHOPs super small? I don't want to hear about how your Aunt Irene had to have her foot cut off while I'm trying to enjoy some pancakes.
\Cold flapjacks are sad things.
Just had one open around Hilliard, Ohio. We have a late night theatre group that's always looking for an alternative to TeeJayes. 2am, always packed. That's fine, we'll wait. We wait. Finally get a table. Everything's fine, then we order, and then an hour goes by before our food ever appears. Most of it's wrong, most of it's cold. Happens 2 months in a row.
The good side is the manager fired the server, and gave us all free food the second time.
germ78
2012-02-22 11:34:31 AM
Treetop1000
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germ78: I thought as a rule there were no IHOPs south of the Mason-Dixon line?
[o.onionstatic.com image 145x80]
There's one in Orlando that I know of.
There's one in Miami just south of the airport as well.
/referencing the onion
The_Sheriff_Is_A_Niiii
2012-02-22 11:43:46 AM
You have not had a real post-bar drunk food experience until you've eaten at a Huddle House.
/IHOP Blows
TheGogmagog
2012-02-22 11:52:51 AM
Have they considered Cox rd or Cox lane? There is an IHOP on Cox in West Chester Ohio, and in in Gastonia, NC.
People at work kept talking about it, I thought they were joking until I was over there. I don't work on Cox so I don't get over there too often.
rogue_L_chick
2012-02-22 12:00:47 PM
Screw IHOP. I prefer the all night diner at the filthy truck stop where I once was offered $20 and a ride to Little Rock to give a beej to a 400 lb truck driver.
The pancakes were delicious.
...and free!
xant
2012-02-22 12:10:03 PM
No self-respectin' southernah uses instant pancake mix.
jbtilley
2012-02-22 01:14:18 PM
The (albeit few) jobs that IHOP would bring to the community just aren't welcome in this economy.
dv-ous
2012-02-22 01:16:15 PM
See... I actually like IHOP. It's grimy, cheap, unpretentious, and my roommate hates it, but the pancakes are alright, and I actually rather like some of the omelettes. Get in, get stuffed, get out.
If only they were still open 24 hours. *weep*
Duke_leto_Atredes
2012-02-22 01:17:33 PM
how about
Another Government Employee
2012-02-22 02:10:12 PM
dv-ous
:
See... I actually like IHOP. It's grimy, cheap, unpretentious, and my roommate hates it, but the pancakes are alright, and I actually rather like some of the omelettes. Get in, get stuffed, get out.
If only they were still open 24 hours. *weep*
I'm pretty sure the one in Buckhead is still 24/7.
groppet
2012-02-22 02:54:17 PM
Bermuda59
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The Waffle House lobby is pretty strong down South.
Damnit you beat me to it!
germ78
:
I thought as a rule there were no IHOPs south of the Mason-Dixon line?
[o.onionstatic.com image 145x80]
They have plenty of them here in MD and Virginia
Cup_O_Jo
2012-02-22 03:28:56 PM
I know why. It is very easy. It's simple. It is called "The Original Pancake House" They have one. With one of those-you do not need an IHOP. No seriously. I drive 10 miles and 3 exits down past 4 IHOPS to go to one.
superfudge73
2012-02-22 06:48:47 PM
This changes
EVERYTHING.
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