There's a line somewhere, between sexually abusing minors, and paying people to do completely weird, off the wall stuff that you find arousing. I think it's probably a very blurry line.

But say, you're paying a kid to eat pizza, because you think for some reason that that's the best thing evar, and the kid gets pizza and cash.... is there a crime, so long as nobody got touched inappropriately?

TsarTom: brap: A friend of mine used to make extra money selling jars of urine to a creep when she was a teenager.

Nice work if you can get it.

Was she hot?

like fresh urine

phlegmmo: During the trial Hersel's lawyer, Ron Bamieh, admitted the 41-year old paid more than a dozen teenagers to do those acts, but said the acts were not for sexual gratification.

If not for that, for what?

sh*ts and spittles

If they start criminalising some of the weirder fetishes they get some shocks. What if I cum in my pants by getting a woman to swear?

At least he got a charge out of it

If the guy wasn't doing it for sexual gratification, what was his point?

There was this wealthy older man in Philly some years ago who would pay young guys for similar services. Fast Eddie? Fast Steve? Can't remember his name, but it made a big splash (pun intended) in the papers at the time. I remember it because the newspaper stories went into great detail how he'd store feces, underwear etc etc in pizza boxes at his storage unit, and the boxes came from a pizzeria that I used to frequent.

Jamieboy: he'd store feces, underwear etc etc in pizza boxes at his storage unit, and the boxes came from a pizzeria that I used to frequent.

Maybe the feces and underwear came from the pizzeria you used to frequent too.

What is the correct way to spell ewwwww...?

Jamieboy: If the guy wasn't doing it for sexual gratification, what was his point?

There was this wealthy older man in Philly some years ago who would pay young guys for similar services. Fast Eddie? Fast Steve? Can't remember his name, but it made a big splash (pun intended) in the papers at the time. I remember it because the newspaper stories went into great detail how he'd store feces, underwear etc etc in pizza boxes at his storage unit, and the boxes came from a pizzeria that I used to frequent.

His name was Fast Eddie, and damn! He has a wikepedia page: Link (new window)

BurnShrike: Jamieboy: he'd store feces, underwear etc etc in pizza boxes at his storage unit, and the boxes came from a pizzeria that I used to frequent.

Maybe the feces and underwear came from the pizzeria you used to frequent too.

Oh christ, you would have to go there.

whew, what a relief this is. fantastic news.
ummmmm i mean i really don't care. i have to be at the teenage hangout in 26 minutes and i need to stop at the bank for dollar bills.

TsarTom: brap: A friend of mine used to make extra money selling jars of urine to a creep when she was a teenager.

Nice work if you can get it.

Was she hot?

Steaming!

Seems appropriate (new window)

Was this his lawyer?

poop thread!

Ah, I see. What we are prosecuting is thought crime...

So, all the guys on the sex offender registry for public urination get pardoned now?

Hersel was charged with four counts of annoying...

Wait, that is a crime? I am hear-by filing suit against anyone who ever Rick-rolled me.

Jamieboy: His name was Fast Eddie, and damn! He has a wikepedia page: Link (new window)

Woah. That guy was messed up, and not only that he probably gave a bunch of young boys HIV in the days when that was a rapid death sentence.

It says on wikipedia that he was an actuary, but I'd say he was actuary an immoral, criminal pervert.


/here all week, try the veal

phlegmmo: During the trial Hersel's lawyer, Ron Bamieh, admitted the 41-year old paid more than a dozen teenagers to do those acts, but said the acts were not for sexual gratification.

If not for that, for what?

If what he's paying them to do is legal, why does he have to justify his motivation to anybody?

Ok, I get the whole molesting kids is bad thing, but are these 17 and 20o day olds? Also since when is "annoying a child" a crime? My son hates the song "surfing bird", so I play it in the car. Will I be charged with annoying him?

Call me old-fashioned, but I think it's romantic

violentsalvation: I see no victims. Hock a loogie, hell, fling some poo. If only all sexually offending deviants were so accommodating to our desires for them. But hopefully before he escalates he develops a self-inflicted bullet to the brain fetish.

I think that must be what happened here, the jury saw no victims, either.

Does this mean anything done to you that causes you to have sexual gratification is a sexual offense now? What if you paid a teen to just stand there and stare at you. Nothing exposed, no touching, just stare at you for a couple of minutes until you orgasm in your pants, is that still molestation/rape?