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2012-02-22 08:57:05 AM  
I agree with the conclusion of this article: GO BUY MASS EFFECT 3, DUMMY! It's not news...
 
2012-02-22 08:57:14 AM  
I reject the premise of the article. The entire Mass Effect series is built around the premise of "these other races can't get the job done, if you want it done right, you have to get a Human to do it". The other races are portrayed as weak, fearful or misguided. They need Humanity to save them (literally, at the end of ME1). Or, you can let them all die, in which case, hey, now you guys have Humans ruling things, the way it should have been.

As real humans, this isn't surprising, but it's also not the "Humans are just one more race, and a not really accepted one" that the author is trying to suggest.
 
2012-02-22 08:57:44 AM  

FlashHarry: i've done a lot of voice over work with jennifer. she's awesome.


i759.photobucket.com
Where? When? What?
Define 'voice over work'. Does that mean you did a voice in MGS4, Star Wars:KOTOR, and The Tick? Or where you a sound techician? Or did you bring her sammiches from your cart?

And most importantly....do you have her phone number? Because I want to see if she is interested in a game of "Dock the Normandy" (Normandy SR-2 that is....twice the size of the Normandy SR-1)
 
2012-02-22 08:58:08 AM  
I guess I'm getting out of touch with gaming, I've never heard of Mass Effect.
 
2012-02-22 08:59:14 AM  
The Shepard / Wrex meme always cracks me up
 
2012-02-22 08:59:51 AM  

Pochas: I just don't understand their decision making process on this. Who spoils the biggest event in their epic 3-installment series? What was the point of that?


The original came out five years ago. Aside from the fact that any form of entertainment can only be "spoiled" if it really wasn't very good to begin with (HARRY POTTER), there's a statute of limitations on "spoiling" the central plot theme of the entire freaking game.

/the entitlement generation demands the right to keep themselves in ignorance, for fear of spoiling the magical world of stupid
//then we wonder why all our accomplishments are being rolled back, and we can't even put people on the moon any more
 
2012-02-22 09:04:06 AM  
As far as "actual opinions on the game" goes I liked ME1 better than ME2. Yeah, the inventory was coded by the lazy intern, but otherwise ME1 was a pretty healthy blend of the RPG/3rdPersonShooter. Combine that with the epic story and enjoyable characters and it's a pretty good game. ME2 added a little too much of Gears to the game at the expense of the RPG, but it wasn't bad. The characters didn't feel as polished as a whole though, although some were pretty excellent (Mordin :D). The story was the dull part. The loyalty missions wouldn't have felt like such a chore if I actually cared about all the characters (I didn't), and there just wasn't enough story missions to keep me interested. =( At least the suicide mission was cool, but it's a pretty long game for only a few good parts.

That being said, I'd take ME2 any day over what Dead Space 2 did to Dead Space 1. Why did you make the main character talk, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy....
 
2012-02-22 09:05:41 AM  

Tatterdemalian: Pochas: I just don't understand their decision making process on this. Who spoils the biggest event in their epic 3-installment series? What was the point of that?

The original came out five years ago. Aside from the fact that any form of entertainment can only be "spoiled" if it really wasn't very good to begin with (HARRY POTTER), there's a statute of limitations on "spoiling" the central plot theme of the entire freaking game.

/the entitlement generation demands the right to keep themselves in ignorance, for fear of spoiling the magical world of stupid
//then we wonder why all our accomplishments are being rolled back, and we can't even put people on the moon any more


The poster you responded to believes that the fact the reapers appear on earth in the upcoming game is the biggest plot point. I disagree but I got the point he was making. You on the other hand wanted to rant about 'kids these days' and started talking about a statute of limitations for a game that hasn't been released yet.

/The problem with the older generation is they fail at reading comprehension.
 
2012-02-22 09:06:08 AM  
Yeah an amazing profound future where the elevators are slower than they were in the 20th century.
 
2012-02-22 09:07:52 AM  

untaken_name: So...it's the best universe evar because diversity? O....k....
This isn't a commentary on the game, since I've never played any ME game, but the article reads like it was written by a Liberal Arts major who's still a year or two away from graduation. Hey, maybe there will be a left-handed lesbian midget albino in ME3 so it will have an EVEN BESTESTER universe.


Left handed, no. So sinister lefties in the mass effect universe.
Lesbian. There is a whole race of monogendered aliens that look like blue women. I think it has lesbianism covered.
Midget, no. Humans have standardized heights. The closest would be the volus, a race of being about three feet tall who breath methane and live in pressure suits so they don't explode in our thinner atmospheres.
Albino, maybe. I haven't played around that much with the character customization options, so maybe you can create someone with albinism. Not sure about the red eyes, though.

And that's Bestertester, Fester Bestertester to you.
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2012-02-22 09:07:55 AM  

secularsage: In short, I'd argue that Mass Effect's universe is compelling and interesting. But it's hardly the second coming of Star Wars. Rather, it's derivative of it.


I love Mass Effect and think the universe is excellent, but yeah. It's Star Wars without lightsabers.
 
2012-02-22 09:09:15 AM  

kemosabe: Mass Effect is teh awesome.

Still need to replay ME2. I accidentally got 1 person killed at the end. Oooops! No one gets left behind, dammit!


I'm a little stuck there myself. I've replayed the final mission 3 or 4 times now and keep having at least one fatality. I'm going at that a few more times befor 3/6 to see if I can get out clean.
 
2012-02-22 09:11:24 AM  
Mass Effect is what I imagined Star Control II part 2 to be like.
 
2012-02-22 09:11:59 AM  
The most important science fiction universe of our generation? Is the author high? Seriously this farker must not read a lot of science fiction, I maintain Mass Effect is Sci-fi for those who don't like Sci-fi.

It is good, but nothing that has not been tread over by a lot of different authors, it just puts it together in an accessible way to the retards who won't read. It is entertaining, fun, and brings a lot to the table, but it is not new and certainly not that important.
 
2012-02-22 09:13:13 AM  

Ambivalence: That was a remarkable article. I've played ME and ME2 and never really gave much thought to the concepts surrounding it. They were just really GOOD games.


ME was a shiat game. The story was banal, the game play was mediocre: the combat lacked a visceral feel, the inventory system "works" like it was rejected from KOTOR, the vehicle sections were pointless and the levels were small and just an endless copy/paste of every other level(this in a game that was billed as being huge and diverse). Plus having the game dump a short novel into your journalcodex every time you look at a person/plant/screen/speck-of-dust is a fairly stupid way of constructing a setting that feels complete and natural. In short ME1 feels like Bioware wasted the development budget on writers and then slapped together the rest of the game on a shoestring.

/haven't played the second one, don't intend to.
 
2012-02-22 09:13:33 AM  
I played ME1 for a while. It seemed like just another shooter to me. With all the things that are possible in the video game world, my tolerance for shooters has gotten pretty low. II'l try ME3 when it comes out, but as with all new games, if the main action of the gameplay is pewpewpewpewpew, it will be an hour or two and I'm done for good. In an infinite universe of possible play styles, I'm just sick to death of the lazy unoriginality of shooters. Look at games like Portal 2, Little Big Planet, Blur, Mario Galaxy...there is so much that hasn't even been done yet. Hell, even Monopoly Streets is wildly creative compared to the next "new" shooter.
 
2012-02-22 09:14:52 AM  
My daughter started with ME2 on the 360. She was frustrated b/c of some story lines that were assumed based off of the first one.
I got her ME2 for the PS3 for Christmas b/c it has a comic book thing at the beginning that one can change to make the story line they want.

Her ME3 is for the PS3.
 
2012-02-22 09:17:21 AM  

untaken_name: N7: The fact that people can plug a huge set of traits into the character and see them behave exactly the same means that

Missed this section. Doesn't it mean that the programmers believe that a black gay male will always behave just like a white straight female? How is that a celebration of diversity rather than merely lip service to it? If your character always acts exactly the same no matter what traits you give it, what the fark is the point of having different traits? Cosmetics? And how is that "important"? It seems more like shoehorning everyone into one set of behavioral traits which doesn't seem all that diverse to me.


You choose how they act. They don't have to act X way just because they are white or black, straight or gay, male or female.
 
2012-02-22 09:18:10 AM  

Halli: Erm no. FTL travel isn't the same as a mass relay.


This
 
2012-02-22 09:18:49 AM  

TeddyBallGame: I'm a little stuck there myself. I've replayed the final mission 3 or 4 times now and keep having at least one fatality. I'm going at that a few more times befor 3/6 to see if I can get out clean.


Seriously? I managed it on the first play through without a guide. At least in ME2 you don't have to let a crewmate die.

/begintecniquespoiler
Do everyone's loyalty mission, send someone technical through the vents (Tali is a good choice), use a strong biotic (not Miranda) for that part and send Mordin's squishy ass back to the ship. Having Zaheed and Grunt hold the line should give you a clean victory.
/endtechniquespolier
 
2012-02-22 09:21:03 AM  

Counter_Intelligent: Halli: Erm no. FTL travel isn't the same as a mass relay.

This


Yes it is. It just isn't a faster than light propulsion system. Teleportation=ftl.
 
2012-02-22 09:22:09 AM  

TeddyBallGame: kemosabe: Mass Effect is teh awesome.

Still need to replay ME2. I accidentally got 1 person killed at the end. Oooops! No one gets left behind, dammit!

I'm a little stuck there myself. I've replayed the final mission 3 or 4 times now and keep having at least one fatality. I'm going at that a few more times befor 3/6 to see if I can get out clean.


Some gaming mag did a flowchart for crew survival. You have to have done all their bonus missions, have all the upgrades and use the correct person for each task.

The big problem is at some point Jacko and Miss Cerebus get into some random scuffle you get the choice on how to break up but unless you've grinded a bunch of I think Paragon conversation points you end up having to choose one or the other and miss out on the others bonus mission. Basically their lives come down to how you decide to keep them from having a random cat fight.
 
2012-02-22 09:27:16 AM  
This "most important science fiction universe," while quite enjoyable, could have used a bit more depth in developing Shepard. Shepard went from being the initiate Spectre with something to prove to Invincible Space Cowboy. Where's the psychological development? The effects of war and the pressures of being the Greatest Soldier of Man? John Steakley's Armor, anyone?
 
2012-02-22 09:27:42 AM  

MythDragon: Where? When? What?
Define 'voice over work'.


i produce TV and radio commercials. i've used jennifer for a ton of spots, from health insurance to computers to doing boring phone tree stuff. she's always great to work with - though i always do it over the phone--thanks to modern technology, all she needs is an ISDN box and a good mic, and we can record her. i even got her to cut a :30 spot while she was on vacation in new zealand one time.
 
2012-02-22 09:27:42 AM  
No love for the Knights of the Old Republic universe? It's pretty distinct from the normal Star Wars IP and pretty well-beloved. Sort of what SW would have been were it actually well-written, as it were.

//A "generation" is a range defined by how long it takes a kid to grow up and have his own kids, i.e. 20-25 years or so for first-world humans. So the "generation" of people in their mid-twenties (the target audience for video games) would include everyone from their teens to their mid-30s, and the latter group would have likely been playing video games in the early 2000s if not earlier.
 
2012-02-22 09:30:27 AM  

Jim_Callahan: No love for the Knights of the Old Republic universe?


i would say that's the best-written and realized sci-fi gaming universe out there. i wish to hell they'd do a KOTOR III for xbox 360. but like i said above, ME2 is virtually identical to KOTOR in the way the game develops and plays -- especially in squad selection and how you assemble your team.
 
2012-02-22 09:35:02 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Ambivalence: That was a remarkable article. I've played ME and ME2 and never really gave much thought to the concepts surrounding it. They were just really GOOD games.

A good game doesn't put you at the start of an unskippable cutscene when you die. A good game also doesn't change your party formation right after a cutscene so that your defensable positon gets changed to everybody out in the open.


Wrong on both counts. A good game doesn't have cutscenes.
 
2012-02-22 09:37:02 AM  
Need more femshep.

i53.tinypic.com

This game's writing and game play has ruined me for other RPGs.

Even Dragon Age is dissatisfying.
 
2012-02-22 09:37:56 AM  

untaken_name: So...it's the best universe evar because diversity? O....k....
This isn't a commentary on the game, since I've never played any ME game, but the article reads like it was written by a Liberal Arts major who's still a year or two away from graduation. Hey, maybe there will be a left-handed lesbian midget albino in ME3 so it will have an EVEN BESTESTER universe.


Now I understand some of ya don't know Sarah Jean...

But she's a a lesbian left-handed midget albino ESKIMO. You know, she started the left-handed lesbian midget eskimo albino student union after all. And 400 people signed up! 400 left-handed lesbian midget eskimo albinos...
 
2012-02-22 09:39:05 AM  

boobsrgood: I played ME1 for a while. It seemed like just another shooter to me. With all the things that are possible in the video game world, my tolerance for shooters has gotten pretty low.


The gameplay of ME1 was extremely lackluster, and ME2 simplified a lot of it into more of a run/gun/cover game (for the better, IMO). It's one of those weird games where the universe is much better than the story, which is in turn much better than the gameplay.
 
2012-02-22 09:40:02 AM  
This "most important science fiction universe," while quite enjoyable, could have used a bit more depth in developing Shepard. Shepard went from being the initiate Spectre with something to prove to Invincible Space Cowboy. Where's the psychological development? The effects of war and the pressures of being the Greatest Soldier of Man? John Steakley's Armor, anyone?

Yes. Does he have father issues? What is his secret pain? This is vitally important to my enjoyment of his battles against space zombies and giant sentient robot squid ships.
 
2012-02-22 09:40:30 AM  
Anyone who agrees with that fanboy article needs more Dick in their life.

/READ
//and I know Dick is not part of this discussion, he's just better at the whole sci-fi thing.
///so sick of space-opera....
 
2012-02-22 09:43:20 AM  

kwame: secularsage: In short, I'd argue that Mass Effect's universe is compelling and interesting. But it's hardly the second coming of Star Wars. Rather, it's derivative of it.

I love Mass Effect and think the universe is excellent, but yeah. It's Star Wars without lightsabers.


Nope. You are incorrect. Its just not "star wars without light sabers". Its a completely different genre.



Star Wars is science fantasy. Star Wars is about telling a story without explaining the science and fiction behind it. Star Wars doesn't need to tell you why/how a hyperdrive works. You, the reader, don't care.


ME and Star Trek (for that matter) are science fiction. The "fiction" goes to great lengths to explain the details and intricacies of the mass relay, the guns, the aliens, the hardware, etc. There are pages upon pages of details in the ME universe. They attempt to at least ground the technology in science.

In Star Wars light sabers just work because they do.

In ME, weapons sheer off slugs from solid blocks of ammo and they accelerated like a rail run.

Complete different universes and story telling.

ME is not derivative of Star Wars in any way, shape or form.
 
2012-02-22 09:44:20 AM  

Jim_Callahan: No love for the Knights of the Old Republic universe? It's pretty distinct from the normal Star Wars IP and pretty well-beloved. Sort of what SW would have been were it actually well-written, as it were.


Plus the Old Republic universe has some of the coolest names in fiction:

Exar Kun
Ulic Qel-Droma
Freedom Nadd
Satal Keto (and Aleema)
Revan
 
2012-02-22 09:45:57 AM  

imashark: Jim_Callahan: No love for the Knights of the Old Republic universe? It's pretty distinct from the normal Star Wars IP and pretty well-beloved. Sort of what SW would have been were it actually well-written, as it were.

Plus the Old Republic universe has some of the coolest names in fiction:

Exar Kun
Ulic Qel-Droma
Freedom Nadd
Satal Keto (and Aleema)
Revan


Darth Buttfart. The Emperor. Aluminum Falcon.
 
2012-02-22 09:46:06 AM  

Plant Rights Activist: The big problem is at some point Jacko and Miss Cerebus get into some random scuffle you get the choice on how to break up but unless you've grinded a bunch of I think Paragon conversation points you end up having to choose one or the other and miss out on the others bonus mission. Basically their lives come down to how you decide to keep them from having a random cat fight.


If you have enough Paragon or Renegade points, you can "win" the conversation such that both walk away loyal (and not as openly hostile to each other). Same thing with Tali/Legion. No need to choose.
 
2012-02-22 09:46:40 AM  

enforcerpsu: kwame: secularsage: In short, I'd argue that Mass Effect's universe is compelling and interesting. But it's hardly the second coming of Star Wars. Rather, it's derivative of it.

I love Mass Effect and think the universe is excellent, but yeah. It's Star Wars without lightsabers.

Nope. You are incorrect. Its just not "star wars without light sabers". Its a completely different genre.



Star Wars is science fantasy. Star Wars is about telling a story without explaining the science and fiction behind it. Star Wars doesn't need to tell you why/how a hyperdrive works. You, the reader, don't care.


ME and Star Trek (for that matter) are science fiction. The "fiction" goes to great lengths to explain the details and intricacies of the mass relay, the guns, the aliens, the hardware, etc. There are pages upon pages of details in the ME universe. They attempt to at least ground the technology in science.

In Star Wars light sabers just work because they do.

In ME, weapons sheer off slugs from solid blocks of ammo and they accelerated like a rail run.

Complete different universes and story telling.

ME is not derivative of Star Wars in any way, shape or form.


Yeah, ME is actually Revelation Space vs. Star Trek.
 
2012-02-22 09:48:09 AM  
182 comments and no one complained about this?

There even a few other non-Citadel species with more respect than humans. Events that shaped the civilization of the galaxy, like the turians leveraging the krogan in the Rachni Wars (Enders Game meets Starship Troopers) and the quarian civil war with the geth (aka the Cylons won), were happening when humans still thought the Earth revolved around the Sun.

Did I miss something huge, like the discovery that the sun actually did revolve around the Earth these days, or is the writer just wrong?

/Liked ME1, would have liked some more customizable weapons in ME2.
 
2012-02-22 09:49:31 AM  

enforcerpsu: Star Wars is science fantasy. Star Wars is about telling a story without explaining the science and fiction behind it. Star Wars doesn't need to tell you why/how a hyperdrive works. You, the reader, don't care.


ME and Star Trek (for that matter) are science fiction. The "fiction" goes to great lengths to explain the details and intricacies of the mass relay, the guns, the aliens, the hardware, etc. There are pages upon pages of details in the ME universe. They attempt to at least ground the technology in science.

In Star Wars light sabers just work because they do.

In ME, weapons sheer off slugs from solid blocks of ammo and they accelerated like a rail run.

Complete different universes and story telling.

ME is not derivative of Star Wars in any way, shape or form


Sorry but if explain the technology or not is the big difference, then they are still very similiar.
 
2012-02-22 09:50:04 AM  

Pochas: Halli: Pochas: Because of Shepard's actions in the first (and to a lesser extent the second game), the reapers are not even supposed to be able to enter the galaxy.

Why do people think this? They were always coming but the citadel relay would have made it a lot more faster.

Cause it's correct. The reapers are outside the galaxy. If the shots of them looking at the galaxy are to be believed, then they are hundreds of thousands of light years outside the galaxy. Without FTL travel, (which Shepard denied them that was the whole point of the first game) they would take >100,000 to get to the galaxy. If those shots couldn't be believed, then they are at least a few hundred or thousand lightyears outside of the galaxy (otherwise you wouldn't call it being "outside" the galaxy as the galaxy is over 100,000 lightyears across.) The fact that they were even able to get into the galaxy is a huge plot point that they spoiled far too early.

I just don't understand their decision making process on this. Who spoils the biggest event in their epic 3-installment series? What was the point of that?


The point is marketing people are very, very stupid.
 
2012-02-22 09:50:18 AM  

DrgnMech: ME2 had one major flaw. NOT ENOUGH WREX.

/Shepard...
//...Wrex


The part with Wrex, small as it was, represents why I liked ME2 in spite of it being more focused on "the squad" rather than "the mission." ME2 starts off really grim, and finding out that pretty much everyone from the first game doesn't seem to care you're back from the dead, has moved on, or outright considers you a traitor bummed the shiat out of me. So the way things were going, I figured upon seeing Wrex on Tuchanka, he was either going to rip Shepard's head off or make Shep fight in an arena just to get an audience.

Instead, Wrex jumps up from his throne, barrels through his honor guard and rushes up to shake Shepard's hand. And it wasn't a set up, a trick, or anything.

94.100.118.33

Hell yeah.

The game is absolutely chocked full of little moments like that, and for me, they made the game.
 
2012-02-22 09:53:30 AM  

liam76: enforcerpsu: Star Wars is science fantasy. Star Wars is about telling a story without explaining the science and fiction behind it. Star Wars doesn't need to tell you why/how a hyperdrive works. You, the reader, don't care.


ME and Star Trek (for that matter) are science fiction. The "fiction" goes to great lengths to explain the details and intricacies of the mass relay, the guns, the aliens, the hardware, etc. There are pages upon pages of details in the ME universe. They attempt to at least ground the technology in science.

In Star Wars light sabers just work because they do.

In ME, weapons sheer off slugs from solid blocks of ammo and they accelerated like a rail run.

Complete different universes and story telling.

ME is not derivative of Star Wars in any way, shape or form

Sorry but if explain the technology or not is the big difference, then they are still very similiar.


Sorry, they aren't. They are commonly accepted as two completely different genres. You can't just say ME is Star Wars without light sabers. They aren't even similar.

Are they both "in space" and "pretend"? YES. But that's any story, anytime, in space.
 
2012-02-22 09:54:31 AM  

heypete: Plant Rights Activist: The big problem is at some point Jacko and Miss Cerebus get into some random scuffle you get the choice on how to break up but unless you've grinded a bunch of I think Paragon conversation points you end up having to choose one or the other and miss out on the others bonus mission. Basically their lives come down to how you decide to keep them from having a random cat fight.

If you have enough Paragon or Renegade points, you can "win" the conversation such that both walk away loyal (and not as openly hostile to each other). Same thing with Tali/Legion. No need to choose


This annoys me.

one or the other fine.
 
2012-02-22 09:54:31 AM  

Blacksmithking: This "most important science fiction universe," while quite enjoyable, could have used a bit more depth in developing Shepard. Shepard went from being the initiate Spectre with something to prove to Invincible Space Cowboy. Where's the psychological development? The effects of war and the pressures of being the Greatest Soldier of Man? John Steakley's Armor, anyone?

Yes. Does he have father issues? What is his secret pain? This is vitally important to my enjoyment of his battles against space zombies and giant sentient robot squid ships.


I'm just pointing out that the article indicates Mass Effect's importance in the pantheon of Sci Fi universes, including books like Ender's Game. For it to be included, I think it does need some real character development (which was sorely lacking in the second game). Is that development important to my enjoyment of headshotting Cerberus operatives with a Carnifex pistol? Absolutely not.
 
2012-02-22 09:55:56 AM  
ME1 was good. Repetitive set pieces, but at least there was some out-doorsy elements that kept it from feeling like one was going from one box to the next with no end in sight. The universe was well developed and fleshed out.

ME2 was good. Some elements of gameplay were improved, others cut out in ways I didn't agree with, and that God-Awful resource gathering system put in. The narrative was far more 'human centric' overall and it didn't seem to include much of the wider universe that had been put forth in ME1.

ME3 looks like it'll be engaging, but at the same time, why have the Reapers up front? Sure, have it be the 'obvious' plot device with more interesting elements behind it, but don't be quite so blatant about it. That, and if the Reapers are indeed such raging badasses, a few dozen of them ought to be able to squash Earth flat in a matter of days. Given how much time would be spent cruising the galaxy to build up allies... not sure if I believe the human race would exist once that is all said and done.

/Firefly, Star Trek, Star Wars, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica, Stargate... love em all. This is just another to enjoy
 
2012-02-22 09:56:28 AM  

amd1433: DrgnMech: ME2 had one major flaw. NOT ENOUGH WREX.

/Shepard...
//...Wrex

The part with Wrex, small as it was, represents why I liked ME2 in spite of it being more focused on "the squad" rather than "the mission." ME2 starts off really grim, and finding out that pretty much everyone from the first game doesn't seem to care you're back from the dead, has moved on, or outright considers you a traitor bummed the shiat out of me. So the way things were going, I figured upon seeing Wrex on Tuchanka, he was either going to rip Shepard's head off or make Shep fight in an arena just to get an audience.

Instead, Wrex jumps up from his throne, barrels through his honor guard and rushes up to shake Shepard's hand. And it wasn't a set up, a trick, or anything.

[94.100.118.33 image 640x480]

Hell yeah.

The game is absolutely chocked full of little moments like that, and for me, they made the game.



I am still waiting for the occurrence of this scene.
 
2012-02-22 09:56:41 AM  
I, for one, enjoyed the article and am a huge fan of the series. The demo for ME3 was superlative.

TFA actually made me see a few new layers to ME that I hadn't considered before, which is always good. Definitely think Mass Effect holds its own against Star Wars or Trek - even if it does feel like a combination of the two at times.

It's powerful sci-fi. It addresses a lot of "the big questions" (as mentioned in the article) and doesn't necessarily provide any kind of definitive answer. That's pretty damn special if you ask me.

CSB time - recently told a female friend of mine who is a bit of an anti-gamer about Tali's story arc and her romance with Shep and left my friend absolutely captivated. She wanted to know if Tali was OK after hooking up with Shepard due to her immune system. She said she had no idea that story telling in games could be so involving and so immersive and got all all "squee" on me.
If the story can be that captivating simply through word of mouth, then it says a lot for how involving the actual gameplay can be.

/And I don't even really like Tali.
//Liara FTW!
 
2012-02-22 09:57:21 AM  
I thoroughly enjoy the ME games and universe. But if the author thinks ME is the most important Sci-fi universe, they need to do some serious catch-up reading.

Dune, Known Space (Ringworld) and Foundation top my list. Although maybe the author is one of those yoots who doesn't consider those to be modern enough and needs to get the fark off my lawn.
 
2012-02-22 09:59:59 AM  

Pochas: My only substantial complaint about Mass Effect is that they spoiled the single most significant event in the storyline (as of the time that it happens) over a year before ME3 came out. I am referring of course to the reaper invasion. Because of Shepard's actions in the first (and to a lesser extent the second game), the reapers are not even supposed to be able to enter the galaxy. But Bioware released pics like this:

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over a year before ME3 comes out, thereby spoiling the most signiifcant event in a story arc spanning 3 epic games....well over a year before the game was out. That was both badong and terribad, boo bioware.


Pretty sure the Citadel was a shortcut for the Reapers, bringing all of them instantly to the hub of the universe to start the genocide. With that avenue closed, they just start the long trek across deep space. If I remember right that's what the Arrival DLC was about, too. Reapers are about to enter the universe via a different Mass Relay in a remote but local-ish galaxy, Shepard can stop them by blowing it up but doing so would kill a lot of Batarians...

I've always gotten the impression that the Reapers have always been on the way, and so seeing that they arrive isn't much of a spoiler. If anything it amps up my expectations for 3, since this one is actually about fighting them.
 
2012-02-22 10:00:59 AM  

Cinaed: ME3 looks like it'll be engaging, but at the same time, why have the Reapers up front?


The Reapers should be at the forefront of Mass Effect 3. Unfortunately, the main story of Mass Effect 2 failed to adequately advance the overall story of the series, thus their sudden appearance in the third game feels less appropriate.
 
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