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(Chicago Sun-Times)   Couple gets electric bill for $108,000 saying they used 1.6 million kilowatt hours in a month   (suntimes.com) divider line 104
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2012-02-21 08:51:07 PM
How many jigawatts was that?
 
2012-02-21 08:58:28 PM

AtticusFinchEsq: How many jigawatts was that?


1.6 I believe.
 
2012-02-21 09:02:00 PM

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: AtticusFinchEsq: How many jigawatts was that?

1.6 I believe.


Great Scott.
 
2012-02-21 09:04:22 PM
Grow-op...
 
2012-02-21 09:06:21 PM
Another reason not to use the automatic deduction method when paying bills.
 
2012-02-21 09:13:48 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Another reason not to use the automatic deduction method when paying bills.


A very good reason.
 
2012-02-21 09:17:48 PM
The crop is coming along quite nicely, though
 
2012-02-21 09:21:06 PM

bojon: Bathia_Mapes: Another reason not to use the automatic deduction method when paying bills.

A very good reason.


Indeed.

We've used the automatic deduction method for bill paying in the past, but stopped after one of the companies "accidently" took a double payment. We had to fight them to get the money credited back to our bank account.
 
2012-02-22 12:32:10 AM
I'm more alarmed that their "normal" bill was almost $300.
 
2012-02-22 12:36:44 AM
The pot is not gonna grow itself you know.

/+1 for proper use of plug tag, subby
 
2012-02-22 01:00:27 AM

AtticusFinchEsq: How many jigawatts was that?


.16
 
2012-02-22 01:08:23 AM
So they're worried the overdraft protection will kick in on their bank account, and instead of doing something about it, they simply call the power company and ask 'please don't screw up'. Sitting there and taking, 'If we feel like it. meh.'
The hell?


Listen, titwizard; go to your bank, cancel the overdraft protection, withdraw any excess money above and beyond your regular payments, and see if it's not too late to cancel the autodebit. It is a minor inconvenience if you actually bothered to do anything at ALL about it, instead of sitting there, living through an episode of goddam Fawlty Towers.
Sheesh.
 
2012-02-22 02:22:42 AM
That's alot of weed.
 
2012-02-22 02:23:08 AM
We have always powered a small city.
 
2012-02-22 02:23:20 AM
You know else likes Oak Park? Authors who like shotguns and Architects.
 
2012-02-22 02:24:35 AM

AtticusFinchEsq: How many jigawatts was that?


Jigawatts are a measurement of power; gigawatt-hours are a measurement of energy. Like the Delorian, they're not convertible.
 
2012-02-22 02:27:45 AM
Never, never, never permit an agency to pull funds for bill payment, always push payments.

Lesson learned.
 
2012-02-22 02:29:18 AM

Bathia_Mapes: bojon: Bathia_Mapes: Another reason not to use the automatic deduction method when paying bills.

A very good reason.

Indeed.

We've used the automatic deduction method for bill paying in the past, but stopped after one of the companies "accidently" took a double payment. We had to fight them to get the money credited back to our bank account.


This is why I would have dropped Verizon if they'd gone through with that ludicrous fee for NOT using auto pay. I don't trust any corporate billing dept. to have unfettered access to my money and since auto pay is supposed to save money over hard copy bills... suck it up, V and friends.
 
2012-02-22 02:30:06 AM

jaylectricity: I'm more alarmed that their "normal" bill was almost $300.


THIS. My bill was less than $70 last month. Even during last year's Snowpacalypse where we set the all time record for snow in 24 hrs my bill was about $160.
 
2012-02-22 02:32:57 AM

Sim Tree: So they're worried the overdraft protection will kick in on their bank account, and instead of doing something about it, they simply call the power company and ask 'please don't screw up'. Sitting there and taking, 'If we feel like it. meh.'
The hell?


Listen, titwizard; go to your bank, cancel the overdraft protection, withdraw any excess money above and beyond your regular payments, and see if it's not too late to cancel the autodebit. It is a minor inconvenience if you actually bothered to do anything at ALL about it, instead of sitting there, living through an episode of goddam Fawlty Towers.
Sheesh.


I'm trying to feel the rage, but...

the scheduled deduction has been canceled.

A ComEd spokesman Tuesday said the company could not tell on short notice of exactly how the mistake occurred, but hoped to know soon. In the meantime the utility said the Rajters' electric bill has been zeroed out, and apologized for any inconvenience.


it sounds like the company is admitting they screwed, up and until they figure out how much they actually owe they're not charging them anything. It would be better if they never screwed up at all, but aside from that I don't know what else you could expect. This sounds like more of a WTF moment than corporate malfeasance.
 
2012-02-22 02:33:15 AM

Sim Tree: So they're worried the overdraft protection will kick in on their bank account, and instead of doing something about it, they simply call the power company and ask 'please don't screw up'. Sitting there and taking, 'If we feel like it. meh.'
The hell?


Listen, titwizard; go to your bank, cancel the overdraft protection, withdraw any excess money above and beyond your regular payments, and see if it's not too late to cancel the autodebit. It is a minor inconvenience if you actually bothered to do anything at ALL about it, instead of sitting there, living through an episode of goddam Fawlty Towers.
Sheesh.


Someone didn't completely read the article, guess how we know?
 
2012-02-22 02:33:38 AM
Well I 'm glad she trusts com-ed to straighten this out
 
2012-02-22 02:33:44 AM
Nevada Energy would've tried to make those poor people pay that bill.
 
2012-02-22 02:35:07 AM

Enigmamf: AtticusFinchEsq: How many jigawatts was that?

Jigawatts are a measurement of power; gigawatt-hours are a measurement of energy. Like the Delorian, they're not convertible.


I looked this one up... oddly enough, Doc Brown was right. Wiki: Giga- (new window)

"In English, the initial g of giga can be pronounced /ɡ/ (a hard g as in giggle), or /dʒ/ (a soft g as in giant, which shares its Greek root).[3]
This latter pronunciation was formalized within the United States in the 1960s and 1980s with the issue by the US National Bureau of Standards of pronunciation guides for the metric prefixes.[4] A prominent example is found in the pronunciation of gigawatts in the 1985 movie Back to the Future."

It was coined in 1947. But based the same as "giant", you don't say "gee-ant". The "jiga" pronunciation makes sense... and is in the official pronunciation guide.
 
2012-02-22 02:35:56 AM

Ow! That was my feelings!: That's alot of weed.


a lot
 
2012-02-22 02:36:15 AM
Sounds to me like when the new company took over, they didn't bring forward the existing meter reading and set the previous reading to zero and then took the difference between that and the current reading as the amount of electricity used.

And yes, never do auto-drafts.
 
2012-02-22 02:36:51 AM
i20.photobucket.com

Guess they'll be coming for the TV.
 
2012-02-22 02:37:18 AM

Bathia_Mapes: We've used the automatic deduction method for bill paying in the past, but stopped after one of the companies "accidently" took a double payment. We had to fight them to get the money credited back to our bank account.


I had a great little episode with American Express, that was fueled by a combination of my own idiocy and unexpected behavior of their systems, and of my credit union's:

I scheduled an auto-pay from my savings account. Unfortunately I had left my money in checking (I transfer most of it to an online savings account), and overdraft protection only works one way. D'oh! Overdraft fee from credit union, insufficient funds fee from credit card.

So I transfer the money from checking to savings, and schedule a new transaction. And two days later, I see: A successful transaction, and two more failed transactions! More overdraft fees, more insufficient funds fees!

What happened? Well, it turns out that Amex re-tries failed ACH transfers every day. So, they re-tried the first payment, which succeeded - clearing out the funds before the second payment could be attempted. That went by another day before I got things under control.

In the end, both sides were very understanding - since obviously I had the funds to cover the bill and did actually get it paid within 24 hours of the failure. The credit union reversed the fees, AMEX credited my account to cover their fees and the bank fees.
 
2012-02-22 02:37:54 AM
yafh.com
 
2012-02-22 02:39:10 AM

buckler: [i20.photobucket.com image 420x233]

Guess they'll be coming for the TV.


John Big Balls agrees.
 
2012-02-22 02:39:39 AM

Oznog: Enigmamf: AtticusFinchEsq: How many jigawatts was that?

Jigawatts are a measurement of power; gigawatt-hours are a measurement of energy. Like the Delorian, they're not convertible.

I looked this one up... oddly enough, Doc Brown was right. Wiki: Giga- (new window)


I wasn't arguing pronunciation, I don't care how you say or spell it.

I do have a problem with confusioning energy and power, however.
 
2012-02-22 02:39:56 AM

Fista-Phobia: buckler: [i20.photobucket.com image 420x233]

Guess they'll be coming for the TV.

John Big Balls agrees.


As does John Smallberries.

/Shut up, John Big-Booty. You are the weakest being I have ever been knowing!
 
2012-02-22 02:40:00 AM

aevert: Ow! That was my feelings!: That's alot of weed.

a lot


thanks allot for pointing that out.
 
2012-02-22 02:42:07 AM

aevert: Ow! That was my feelings!: That's alot of weed.

a lot


i222.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-22 02:42:14 AM
Should have just bought some plutonium at the corner drug store.
 
2012-02-22 02:45:09 AM
All I had to see was COMED involvement.
I hate them so
 
2012-02-22 02:45:18 AM
After programming for 15 years (five of which I spent doing code quality reviews) I don't trust automated anything.

Even if the code is good and proper, hardware issues can still derail an 'automatic' process.
 
2012-02-22 02:46:55 AM

Harry_Seldon: Should have just bought some plutonium at the corner drug store.


sounds nuclear, Iran over to the drug store.
 
2012-02-22 02:46:59 AM

Fista-Phobia: aevert: Ow! That was my feelings!: That's alot of weed.

a lot

[i222.photobucket.com image 400x300]


that's not alot of weed, this is alot of weed....
farm1.static.flickr.com
 
2012-02-22 02:47:54 AM
Might have been a mis-read of a mechanical meter. I had it happen once when the actual reading was something like "25998" and the guy read the 2nd digit as a "6" rather than a "5".
 
2012-02-22 02:56:50 AM
This is exactly why I only have auto-withdrawal on three, smallish accounts, Fark being one of them. The dollar amounts are small enough that if there is a screw up, it won't wipe out my bank account.

I learned that the hard way thirty some years ago when I got talked into doing that for my life and auto insurance policies. Gaadam Mutual of Omaha and Norwest Bank kept screwing it up, taking out double payments in a month, never at the times they had agreed to take out just the one payment and then getting all pissy with me when I called them on it. Of course, it always happened late on a Friday, so that I had to wait until Monday to get it straightened out. I finally put an end to it by closing my account at Norwest and sending registered letters to all parties on it. Mutt of O still didn't get it and went all crazy when they found they couldn't get their unauthorised withdrawals, even though I had informed at least two people there by phone and by letter that this was going to happen and why. It was further compounded by the fact I worked for Mutt of O in claims at the time.

Seriously, do not ever trust those bastards to get it right.
 
2012-02-22 02:57:12 AM
There are alot of grammatical errors in this thread.
 
2012-02-22 02:58:17 AM

Ivo Shandor: There are alot of grammatical errors in this thread.


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2012-02-22 03:02:51 AM

7th Son of a 7th Son: jaylectricity: I'm more alarmed that their "normal" bill was almost $300.

THIS. My bill was less than $70 last month. Even during last year's Snowpacalypse where we set the all time record for snow in 24 hrs my bill was about $160.


$300.00 a month is a good month for me in the winter.

/Cold and dark.

//electric rates are brutal here
 
2012-02-22 03:03:17 AM

jaylectricity: I'm more alarmed that their "normal" bill was almost $300.


Well that isn't unusual in Oak Park because the home are pretty big and electricity in the Chicago area is pretty expensive.
 
2012-02-22 03:11:10 AM

7th Son of a 7th Son: jaylectricity: I'm more alarmed that their "normal" bill was almost $300.

THIS. My bill was less than $70 last month. Even during last year's Snowpacalypse where we set the all time record for snow in 24 hrs my bill was about $160.


Dude, you're in Oklahoma. Your "Snowpacalypse" was Chicago's "dusting".
 
2012-02-22 03:20:28 AM

IlGreven: 7th Son of a 7th Son: jaylectricity: I'm more alarmed that their "normal" bill was almost $300.

THIS. My bill was less than $70 last month. Even during last year's Snowpacalypse where we set the all time record for snow in 24 hrs my bill was about $160.

Dude, you're in Oklahoma. Your "Snowpacalypse" was Chicago's "dusting".


17" pretty much brought the city to a halt. Chicago's much better equipped to handle snow like that.
 
2012-02-22 03:22:19 AM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Ivo Shandor: There are alot of grammatical errors in this thread.

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D! D! D!!!

/That is my final answer!
 
2012-02-22 03:29:55 AM
$16.75

That's my average monthly electric bill.

/Half of that is taxes.

//At least living in a temperate climate area does sometimes have its advantages.

///Did I mention my monthly gasoline bill (car, not home) is less than $20.00 a month?

////If not, my monthly gasoline bill (car, not home) is less than $20.00 a month.
 
2012-02-22 03:33:43 AM

What???? What the heck???

Mucho, mucho, MUCHO thanks to L.C.M. for the TF subscription!!!!

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