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2012-02-22 01:50:25 AM
5 votes:
The dudes inside were friendly enough, but the guys sitting at the bar were very startled when it came out that I was 100% straight.

There are a number of reasons your story is complete bullshiat but the most prominent one is that you are requiring us to believe that all these gay dudes couldn't spot you were straight the split second you sat down.
2012-02-22 02:04:34 AM
4 votes:
but the guys sitting at the bar were very startled when it came out that I was 100% straight.

I can't tell you how many "100% straight" guys I've met at the gay bar and within 10 minutes I'm fondling him under the table and we end up blowing each other in the parking lot.
wee [TotalFark]
2012-02-22 12:33:46 AM
4 votes:
My first time in San Francisco visiting my brother was like that. I was walking all over the city, it was pretty warm, it was right there, I figured fark it, I'm going to get a beer.

The dudes inside were friendly enough, but the guys sitting at the bar were very startled when it came out that I was 100% straight. A guy sat down next to me, started chatting me up, and it became obvious pretty quick that I played for the other team. There was a record needle coming off the record sort of moment, and then an older black dude asked, after I explained that I just wanted a cold beer, "Son... didn't you see all them colored flags hanging up outside? You do know what they mean, right?"

It kind of caught me off guard, so I replied, "Yeah, I saw them. Do they mean you don't serve beer to straight dudes in here or something?" Everyone agreed that the flags didn't in fact mean that a random straight dude couldn't enter their bar and drink a beer, and although it was a somewhat rare occurrence, it was perfectly acceptable.

So then me and the guy opposite the older fellow played a couple games of pool after which I resumed my trek better hydrated than when I began, with no hanky-panky involved in the interim.

/yes, yes, very csb...
2012-02-22 05:35:03 AM
3 votes:
So he doesn't apologize for leaving the scene of an accident - but he *does* defend himself from being teh ghey ? Sounds like somebody's got more troubles than one.
2012-02-22 04:14:05 AM
3 votes:

Tigger: The dudes inside were friendly enough, but the guys sitting at the bar were very startled when it came out that I was 100% straight.

There are a number of reasons your story is complete bullshiat but the most prominent one is that you are requiring us to believe that all these gay dudes couldn't spot you were straight the split second you sat down.


You know, for every flamboyant or overtly gay person, there's one that seems every bit as straight as you act.
2012-02-22 09:05:31 AM
2 votes:

SlothB77: I love how it isn't controversial for homosexuals to go to so-called 'straight bars' (or just non-gay bars), but it is sooo controversial for a heterosexual person to go to a gay bar. the best karaoke selection can be found at a gay bar near me and there are hot straight woman that go there. people will figure out i am straight pretty quickly, so what is so bad about going there?


Do you often demonize gay people on the radio?
2012-02-22 08:59:10 AM
2 votes:

SlothB77: people will figure out i am straight pretty quickly, so what is so bad about going there?


When you openly denounce gays on the radio and engage in hate speech towards them, it's hypocritical to go to a gay bar, and it's wonderful schadenfreude for me when you get caught in the act.

If you really can't understand why his situation is different from yours, there's nothing more for any of us to say to you.
2012-02-22 08:30:27 AM
2 votes:
That must be that personal responsibility that they rail on about so much. Poor and black, it's your own damn fault. Prison for minor offenses (especially drugs). Wealthy and white, then please by all means, carry on. Don't worry about that hit and run, we'll take care of that for you.
2012-02-22 08:00:23 AM
2 votes:
Imagine how much nicer republicans would be if those that are closet gays would just admit it to themselves instead of projecting their self loathing and hatred onto everyone else.
2012-02-22 06:08:30 AM
2 votes:

fatimcgee: Well, in his defense, I've done the same thing.


Are you a homophobic right-wing commentator who makes a living through spreading hate speech??

If not, then there's no comparison.
2012-02-22 05:54:02 AM
2 votes:
Oh so going to a gay bar, drinking a beer and then cramming as much drag queen cock into every orifice makes you GAY now? What a pass we have come to. Soon you won't be able to have an oiled Turkish youth plunge a rubber fist into your anus whilst you trombone his friend without the gay mafia bandying around their vile slander.
2012-02-22 05:36:52 AM
2 votes:

wee: Everyone agreed that the flags didn't in fact mean that a random straight dude couldn't enter their bar and drink a beer, and although it was a somewhat rare occurrence, it was perfectly acceptable.


Wow, aren't you the gay activist straight guy. So happy that you set the record straight with those close-minded bigots.
2012-02-22 02:47:46 AM
2 votes:
Sure, he's not gay. He just fled he scene because he thought it might look bad. Though there's no reason anyone should think it might look bad, 'cause he was just a dude goin out for a beer at just a regular bar, NTTAWWT, etc etc.

LULZ

"I went into a bar," he told his audience today. "There were gay people inside. You know why I went in to a bar? Let me confess. Because there was cold beer waiting inside. Is that a crime? The fact that I'm not afraid of the fact that some of the people inside may be gay makes it a bad thing? Would it have been better if I was at a strip club, or a Hooters? Well if it would then maybe you should now know, I don't hate gays. I don't fear gays. I don't need to bash gays."

Berry, who's famous for his racist and anti-Muslim rants, called Houston's KPRC-TV a "fourth-place station" and threatened retaliation. "You will not smear my name and me go down without a fight."

He also said his presence at the gay bar, which was staging a drag show at the time of his 11 p.m. visit, was not hypocritical, because he's not a homophobe.
2012-02-21 11:05:33 PM
2 votes:
The Harris County District Attorney's office refuses to charge him in the hit-and-run incident, despite his allegedly causing $1,500 in damage to the car owned by the bar's bouncer, who witnessed the entire incident.

I wonder why. Because he used to be on council? Or what?

And this has to be the worst defense I've ever seen. Seriously. Like there aren't other bars, probably with cheaper beer. Or better beer. (Gay bars are notorious for overcharging for bad drinks.) I can;t wait until the sexting scandal with his lover makes the papers. And we all know, it's only a matter of time.
2012-02-22 11:00:21 AM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: I'm not sure what's worse. the fact that anybody seems to care that the guy was in a gay bar, or that people seem to care more about him being in a gay bar than they do about him causing an accident while leaving a bar, then fleeing the scene...


Maybe we just find it amusing to talk about it. Fark isn't exactly The McNeil-Lehrer Report.

vudukungfu: The Harris County District Attorney's office refuses to charge him in the hit-and-run incident, despite his allegedly causing $1,500 in damage to the car owned by the bar's bouncer, who witnessed the entire incident.


Hope the DA has a good defense attorney.
DA's are professional assholes, but not pressing DUI charges against a sloppy drunk when there is an eye witness, that's a whole new level.


There may be details we're unaware of, counsellor.

rudemix: No charges after all that? I bet this guy has dirt on the DA and by 'dirt' I mean santorum and by 'on the' I mean covering his peener.


So what are you trying to say?

vudukungfu: I was in full drag in a bar in 1977 in Albuquerque


It's getting awfully deep in here.

Infinite Monkeys In Front Of A Computer: markfara: All gay Republicans are either seriously clueless or outright assholes.

What if they agree with a majority of the Republican platform but disagree with their stance on gay rights? Not every gay person has to be some designated advocate for the advancement of gay rights. The most clueless voters are single issue voters.


That's why I still give money to the Salvation Army, even though they backed Prop. 8.

O wait, I don't do that. Turns out that there are almost always other groups that do good works, without also working against my civil rights or someone else's.

I can understand agreeing with a lot of GOP platform positions and being gay. What I can't understand is visibly and materially supporting a group that actively works against one's own self-interests. But of course, there's always the example of Kansas, so I must accept that this is a widespread phenomenon.
2012-02-22 10:48:48 AM
1 votes:
Let's get something straight, he's an asshole because:

He is a racist Islamaphobe and committed hit and run.


If he isn't a homophobe I dont care if he went into a gay bar. It is nice to see a conservative saying that they have no problem with gay people.

/at least theyre not muslim, right?
2012-02-22 10:34:19 AM
1 votes:

lohphat: What about the Republican platform isn't a bunch of packaged lies and bigotry? Smaller government? States rights? Fiscal responsibility? Reproductive freedom? Every action of the GOP over the last 45 years belie those marketing soundbites.


I think you're missing my point. I'm not a Republican. Never have been, likely never will be. So if you're asking me to defend their politics, you're asking the wrong person. I've voted mostly Democratic with a few Independent and Green Party votes in local elections. But just because I vote Democratic does not mean I support their platform 100%. In fact, I'd say a disagree with a large part of their platform, but their policies are more inline with my beliefs than that of any other party.

My point is, there are gay people who are actually indifferent to things like DOMA and DADT, and that does not make them bigots. They may vote Republican for a myriad of other reasons.
2012-02-22 10:29:15 AM
1 votes:

Infinite Monkeys In Front Of A Computer: markfara: No, the most clueless voters are those who support a party that detests who they are as human beings. That pretty much trumps lower taxes or whatever.

And what if they support Log Cabin Republicans over Democrats that support DOMA or were against the repeal of DADT?


Support for DOMA and DADT are not part of the Democratic party platform. That's the difference.
2012-02-22 10:21:18 AM
1 votes:

Infinite Monkeys In Front Of A Computer: markfara: All gay Republicans are either seriously clueless or outright assholes.

What if they agree with a majority of the Republican platform but disagree with their stance on gay rights? Not every gay person has to be some designated advocate for the advancement of gay rights. The most clueless voters are single issue voters.


What about the Republican platform isn't a bunch of packaged lies and bigotry? Smaller government? States rights? Fiscal responsibility? Reproductive freedom? Every action of the GOP over the last 45 years belie those marketing soundbites.
2012-02-22 10:05:11 AM
1 votes:

Infinite Monkeys In Front Of A Computer: What if they agree with a majority of the Republican platform but disagree with their stance on gay rights? Not every gay person has to be some designated advocate for the advancement of gay rights. The most clueless voters are single issue voters.


If you'd vote for a candidate or party that says they believe you are an abomination and that every aspect of your sexuality and relationship with your partner is disgusting and should be illegal, simply because you like their fiscal policy, you're a sell-out.

An Aunt Tom, if you will.
2012-02-22 09:42:33 AM
1 votes:

That Magnificent Bastard!: So What? I know plenty of gay conservative people.

The real bigots are the people who categorize others based on a single outward characteristic.

All conservatives are ...
All Asians are ...
Al gays are ...
All blacks are...

Open your eyes and perhaps your minds.


Good point, let's narrow down said outward characteristic a bit:

All gay Republicans are either seriously clueless or outright assholes.

Check back with me when Republicans drop their anti-gay agenda, and I'll reconsider my bigoted position.
2012-02-22 09:32:33 AM
1 votes:

Jackpot777: isn't it funny: the people that see nothing hypocritical here are the ones that couldn't tell the gayness of Foley, Sandford, Craig... gaydar's completely on the fritz.


As much as I hate coming to his defense again, I'd really be interested to hear what he's said that is "anti-gay" before I call him a hypocrite. From what I've found, he's overtly racist towards Muslims, but haven't been able to dig up any of his anti-gay ramblings. Anyone?
2012-02-22 09:30:09 AM
1 votes:
So What? I know plenty of gay conservative people.

The real bigots are the people who categorize others based on a single outward characteristic.

All conservatives are ...
All Asians are ...
Al gays are ...
All blacks are...

Open your eyes and perhaps your minds.
2012-02-22 09:19:51 AM
1 votes:

Infinite Monkeys In Front Of A Computer: HotWingConspiracy: Do you often demonize gay people on the radio?

Has he? I don't really want to come to the defense of a right wing "blow-hard" but I'm curious what he's actually said on his show that was anti-gay. My Google-Fu is weak at finding anything beyond this article.


Someone in the thread mentioned they've heard the show, and he does apparently get in to anti-gay rhetoric. Obviously anecdotal, but good enough for me. I honestly can't imagine a right wing radio host putting together a four hour show without getting in an anti-gay segment.
2012-02-22 09:11:29 AM
1 votes:

wee: My first time in San Francisco visiting my brother was like that. I was walking all over the city, it was pretty warm, it was right there, I figured fark it, I'm going to get a beer.

The dudes inside were friendly enough, but the guys sitting at the bar were very startled when it came out that I was 100% straight. A guy sat down next to me, started chatting me up, and it became obvious pretty quick that I played for the other team. There was a record needle coming off the record sort of moment, and then an older black dude asked, after I explained that I just wanted a cold beer, "Son... didn't you see all them colored flags hanging up outside? You do know what they mean, right?"

It kind of caught me off guard, so I replied, "Yeah, I saw them. Do they mean you don't serve beer to straight dudes in here or something?" Everyone agreed that the flags didn't in fact mean that a random straight dude couldn't enter their bar and drink a beer, and although it was a somewhat rare occurrence, it was perfectly acceptable.

So then me and the guy opposite the older fellow played a couple games of pool after which I resumed my trek better hydrated than when I began, with no hanky-panky involved in the interim.

/yes, yes, very csb...


Beer is a diuretic, the effects kick in after 20 minutes (new window). You would not have been better hydrated, unless you were drinking something else in the bar.

Stayed in their long enough to 'play a couple of games of pool', huh. Is that like 'friend of Dorothy'?
2012-02-22 08:58:01 AM
1 votes:
The Harris County District Attorney's office refuses to charge him in the hit-and-run incident, despite his allegedly causing $1,500 in damage to the car owned by the bar's bouncer, who witnessed the entire incident.


Hope the DA has a good defense attorney.
DA's are professional assholes, but not pressing DUI charges against a sloppy drunk when there is an eye witness, that's a whole new level.
2012-02-22 08:35:55 AM
1 votes:
The Harris County District Attorney's office refuses to charge him in the hit-and-run incident

What a queer thing to do, unless something personal about the DA's office may come out.
2012-02-22 08:30:29 AM
1 votes:

cajunns: He causes $1500 damage to a car and flees the scene.....and he's not facing multiple charges
WTF kind of justice is that ?


Conservatives usually have pig cops and judges on their payroll.
2012-02-22 08:26:09 AM
1 votes:
He causes $1500 damage to a car and flees the scene.....and he's not facing multiple charges
WTF kind of justice is that ?
2012-02-22 08:13:41 AM
1 votes:
One other thing, if he is out looking for strange (orientation notwithstanding) then he is an asshole as he is married. Straight or gay, you're an asshole if you're a cheater, in my book.
2012-02-22 08:09:19 AM
1 votes:

sillydragon: Even if getting some cock was the very last thing on this guy's mind..WTF was he thinking? I


I will have to agree with this.........
2012-02-22 08:06:52 AM
1 votes:
He also said his presence at the gay bar, which was staging a drag show at the time of his 11 p.m. visit, was not hypocritical, because he's not a homophobe.

I wonder if he has stopped to consider his choice in career and the people he caters to.
2012-02-22 08:05:50 AM
1 votes:

MadMonk: Imagine how much nicer republicans would be if those that are closet gays would just admit it to themselves instead of projecting their self loathing and hatred onto everyone else.


Won't happen. They know that doing so would cost them the support of the feeble-minded. They'd have to speak intelligently on real issues, and that's a LOT of work!
2012-02-22 08:05:40 AM
1 votes:
It tells you somthing about Wisconsin that he's in more trouble for going to the gay bar than for leaving the scene of an accident that he (may have) caused.
2012-02-22 07:53:39 AM
1 votes:
ITT: people who think it's best to "stick with their own kind".

Gay bars are just another kind of bar, like hip-hop clubs, biker bars, dives and hotel bars. If you've ever seen a drag show, you know about 20% of the audience are straight couples having a laugh.

This dude's probably gay if he went alone, though.

/try Craigslist next time, dummy
2012-02-22 07:44:05 AM
1 votes:
"He also said his presence at the gay bar, which was staging a drag show at the time of his 11 p.m. visit, was not hypocritical, because he's not a homophobe."

Not being a listener of right-wing radio, I'm not familiar with this guy or his show, but if he doesn't say anything bad about gays, then he's right. It's not hypocritical. If he wants to visit a gay bar, then, that's his business and nobody elses'.

Hit-and-run, though, is one of the more douchebaggy things you can do.
2012-02-22 07:16:55 AM
1 votes:

kokomo61: ...and I only go to Hooters for the food.


If someone is gay, let 'em be. With the Arizona sheriff outing still in the news, we still haven't gotten to the point where it isn't a big deal, and people are still trying to hide it. With Zachary Quinto and comedian Todd Glass coming out, eventually it'll get to the point where someone will announce that they're gay....and nobody will care. We're not there yet.

I have more of a problem with what he does on the radio than who he does when he's off.

NTTAWWT.


I don't think there's anything wrong with being gay. I do think there's something wrong with being gay while aligning yourself with those who oppress gays. I was on Townhall.com the other day reading the comments about the Arizona sheriff thing. Apparently (and I did not realize this), libturds are hypocrites when they out gay right-wingers because WE'RE the ones who think that gays shouldn't be persecuted for their preferences. And yet, there we are persecuting gays. See what hypocrites we are? Santorum in 2012!
2012-02-22 06:48:41 AM
1 votes:

fatimcgee: Well, in his defense, I've done the same thing.


You wouldn't expose yourself to criminal liability by fleeing the scene of an accident at a gay bar, because if you were in an accident at a gay bar, you would have no reason to panic like this jackhole did.

He's a right-wing conservative. And he's gay. By now, this should surprise no one.
2012-02-22 06:40:34 AM
1 votes:
So he's not trying to deny committing the crime of hit and run, only the non-issue of being gay? Even if we believed him, how does it make it better that he just ran away from a scene of a crime for no reason?
2012-02-22 06:12:53 AM
1 votes:

fatimcgee: Well, in his defense, I've done the same thing.

\Multiple friends from HS are gay/lesbian
\\Wasn't right that we only went to straight bars
\\\Started going with them to the gay bar
\\Never has so much damn fun in my life
\$1 drinks...STRONG drinks
\\No shortage of good w33d on the patio
\SLASHIES!

CSB, I know...


Gay bars rarely have fights (ironically the butch lesbian bars do), only specific known ones with specific reputations have "action", otherwise the people are friendly and not judgemental, the drinks are cheap and strong, and have better music playing.

My part-time house mate is gay (he's a flight attendant who lives elsewhere with his partner but is based at SFO) and I occasionally join him for a drink after work. The Castro in SF is tame. It's mostly past its prime and is filled with young wanna-be hipsters. The "action bars" are down on Folsom Street.

When I visit Hawaii I bunk on his couch and he took me to a place called Hula's which is a riot. $5 pint Mai-tais. I took my best friend and her army husband and his colleagues there when we were the for a convention and they loved it and one guy who came up to the table to chat us up (he didn't get far other than a "thanks but no thanks"). After he moved on one of the married army guys said "I think he's from my unit!". They were all cool with the bar too and this was long before DADT was repealed. They knew they had gay guys in their unit and didn't care.

Anyway.

If your straight, you're not going to get raped in a gay bar, the drinks are cheap and strong, and you'll earn some street cred.

Remember, 14% of gay men were born that way....the rest were sucked into it.

/NTTAWWT
2012-02-22 06:04:28 AM
1 votes:
The fact that this fellow was in a gay bay is only a distraction to the real issue. Of course this guy wants to have the discussion centered on why he was having a beer there. Being in a gay bar has no bearing on this guy's sexuality and more importantly has no bearing on whether he is guilty of the crime. The only thing that really matters is that he was involved in a hit and run.
/Although being a right-wing radio host is pretty queer; I guess he only does that for the beer too.
2012-02-22 05:52:38 AM
1 votes:
Strangely relevant (new window).

The dude's probably gay, and who really cares, but really this is potentially a win-win situation.

Either the ardent homophobes in his listening audience a) don't believe him and destroy whatever credibility he has, or b) believe that the homosexual community isn't so bad if their magic talking box buddy goes to gay bars for ice cold manly-in-a-straight-way beer and find a different segment of the population to demonize (I'm hoping they go after masturbators next since life begins at the tip of a man's penis).

Of course, there's a c), d), and e) here too revolving around a lot of "LALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING" or conspiracy theories, but I'm an optimist.
2012-02-22 05:38:11 AM
1 votes:
I walked into a bar one day to get a beer. As I walked in I noticed "Born to be Wild" blaring on the jukebox and everyone decked out in leather (women and men) and relaized that I had walked into a biker bar. I sat down and drank a pither of beer even though I was decked out in jeans, flanel shirt and cowboy boots. That didnt make me a biker. I think you actually have to ride a bike to be a biker and to be gay you have to ride...well....

...that is all...

However, not charging the guy for a hit and run is bullshiat.
2012-02-22 02:20:25 AM
1 votes:

Tigger: The dudes inside were friendly enough, but the guys sitting at the bar were very startled when it came out that I was 100% straight.

There are a number of reasons your story is complete bullshiat but the most prominent one is that you are requiring us to believe that all these gay dudes couldn't spot you were straight the split second you sat down.


That's true. My friend used to be a bartender at a gay bar, so I often stopped by for a free beer or two, or eight. My gaydar is pretty good, but it's no match for those guys' straight-dar.
2012-02-21 11:43:06 PM
1 votes:
I only like the smell of cocaine.
2012-02-21 11:30:19 PM
1 votes:
I only read Playboy for the articles.
2012-02-21 11:21:30 PM
1 votes:
liveradiostreams.com

He is hot.
2012-02-21 09:29:05 PM
1 votes:
Cheap beer. I said use the Cheap Beer Defence. Some Farkers just don't read very well.
 
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