Ask James Marsden about what moonlighting in a Superman reboot will do for your Marvel career.

Mugato: Bill Murray had actually headbutted (McG) on the set of Charlie's Angels

Is there any possible way that Bill could be more of a pimp? I don't think so.


The act of headbutting McG should put Bill Murray on the Nobel Prize shortlist, as far as I'm concerned.

Mugato: How do you get Bill Murray in an action comedy and give him nothing to do? "McG" (I mean really? He's neither a rapper nor a 12 year old) was lucky to get away with a head butting.

It's messed up all the way around, stupid name and all.

In any event, I'd also like to think of it as a preemptive headbutt for Terminator: Salvation. Cripes and a half.

Any actor who's cast in a McG project should have written into their contract the privilege of punching McG in the face at least once a day.

is it gay of me to say, as a committed, thoroughly hetero male, that RDJ is quite possibly one the sexiest men in the universe?

fusillade762: The McG hate is strong in this thread. Stupid name notwithstanding, the guy gets a pass from me for "Chuck".

TV McG, passable.

Movie McG, godawful.


fusillade762: That movie wasn't THAT bad.

We're gonna have to agree to disagree there, amigo.


fusillade762: The biggest thing that bugged me was when Reese springs SkyNet's carefully planned trap (I'll let TVTropes sum it up for me):

SkyNet successfully lures a completely unsuspecting John Connor into a well-planned trap of its own design, and instead of greeting him with a bomb, nerve gas, or even an army of robots, it sends one terminator to kill him (and doesn't even bother to give it a gun!). SkyNet also doesn't send the T-800 any backup even after it becomes obvious the plan isn't going quite as intended. The Terminator does terribly, batting John around like a kitty with a ball of yarn rather than snapping his neck. You'd think SkyNet would take absolutely no chances given the amount of effort it spends on killing Connor later on (multiple time travel attempts, etc.)

Yeah, there were more than a few logical problems with T4, but I'm just gonna leapfrog all of that and say "DAMN YOU, McG!!!" while shaking a defeated fist at the sky.

You lost me at McG.

mitchcumstein1: fusillade762: The McG hate is strong in this thread. Stupid name notwithstanding, the guy gets a pass from me for "Chuck".

And Supernatural. And Human Target. And The OC...screw you, the first season was awesome.

Maybe he should just stick to TV.

Hm. Yes. He has not made a single film that I have enjoyed, but all of those shows, save The OC, I enjoy very much (I haven't seen the OC, so that's not a knock against it).

I mean, i get the double entendré... but srsly, its misanthrope; "get it right or pay the price!"

Terminator Salvation was a good, well-made movie...

The entire canon of 'Terminator', on the other hand, is retarded through and through.

McG is a stupid name, but the guy can make a great film.

/looking forward to the new Superman

OK - for eleventybillionth time: STOP REBOOTING shiat.

One reboot worked brilliantly. The rest suck ass. It's time for Hollywood to come up with original ideas.

Seriously - do they want to be like the damn theatre where 1/2 the plays are about how funny Catholic school was the 1/2 pomo Shakespeare drivel?

Suddenly I want to see a movie where Bill Murray plays a superhero.

fusillade762: The McG hate is strong in this thread. Stupid name notwithstanding, the guy gets a pass from me for "Chuck".

Yes the show that became the Subway/car ad Hour instead of getting canceled and leaving with dignity intact and the audience wanting more.

Ithanks to a boldly different take from screenwriter J.J. Abrams, would have made wholesale changes to the origins of Superman, his home planet Krypton, and his main nemesis Lex Luthor.

That would have been awesome. He could have pissed off the comic book nerds as well as the Star Trek nerds.

Mugato: Bill Murray had actually headbutted (McG) on the set of Charlie's Angels

Is there any possible way that Bill could be more of a pimp? I don't think so.

I didn't think it possible to like Bill Murray more than I already did. I have been proven wrong.

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener:
Yeah, there were more than a few logical problems with T4, but I'm just gonna leapfrog all of that and say "DAMN YOU, McG!!!" while shaking a defeated fist at the sky.

He didn't write the damn thing. At least try and justify an illogical hatred for the right reasons.

And the Charlie's Angels films are the very definition of guilty pleasures. Besides, they're more Drew Barrymore's vision than his.

/yeah, I said it.
//opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one and most of them stink

sure haven't: Terminator Salvation was a good, well-made movie...

The entire canon of 'Terminator', on the other hand, is retarded through and through.

McG is a stupid name, but the guy can make a great film.

/looking forward to the new Superman

Pretty much this. Loved T4. Then again, I'm a guy who loves Michael Bay movies, so...

buttery_shame_cave: is it gay of me to say, as a committed, thoroughly hetero male, that RDJ is quite possibly one the sexiest men in the universe?

Yes.

Orgasmatron138: Ask James Marsden about what moonlighting in a Superman reboot will do for your Marvel career.

Hey, he still got more screen time in the 3rd movie than Alan Cumming did.

mitchcumstein1: fusillade762: The McG hate is strong in this thread. Stupid name notwithstanding, the guy gets a pass from me for "Chuck".

And Supernatural. And Human Target. And The OC...screw you, the first season was awesome.

Maybe he should just stick to TV.

The fourth season was better. The OC is one of the most startlingly amazing TV series ever. Probably the most character development over the course of the series other than maybe Lost.

buttery_shame_cave: is it gay of me to say, as a committed, thoroughly hetero male, that RDJ is quite possibly one the sexiest men in the universe?

As I recall, in the JJ Abrams script Lex Luthor was secretly an undercover Kryptonian spy, a reveal that would act as a cliffhanger for the sequel. Other proposed changes pulled from memory include Krypton not being destroyed (so they could have a super-powered Kryptonian civil war) and that Superman's powers come from his suit. My memory may be fuzzy on this.

On the plus side, he didn't fight any polar bears.

jocutus: As I recall, in the JJ Abrams script Lex Luthor was secretly an undercover Kryptonian spy, a reveal that would act as a cliffhanger for the sequel. Other proposed changes pulled from memory include Krypton not being destroyed (so they could have a super-powered Kryptonian civil war) and that Superman's powers come from his suit. My memory may be fuzzy on this.

On the plus side, he didn't fight any polar bears.

Right, that had the dialogue "IT WAS MINE!" in reference to a second Kryptonian,ship, yes?

There's no way Robert Downey Jr. has a billion dollars.

Let's see.

Lex Luthor: Brilliant but Troubled... check; but he's not *actually* recovering from anything. So, no. RDJ can't play him.

Their is no better Lex Luthor than Michael Rosenbaum .. yes Smallville was crap but Michael elevated it to watchable

salvador.hardin: There's no way Robert Downey Jr. has a billion dollars.

Doubtful. Given all the trouble he was in during the 90s, I wouldn't be surprised his defense lawyer got most of that Iron Man money.

Dealers and Betty Ford took the rest.

Inigo_Montoya: buttery_shame_cave: is it gay of me to say, as a committed, thoroughly hetero male, that RDJ is quite possibly one the sexiest men in the universe?

Yes.


But not wrong...

How did McG get the Superman movie? McG's movies are for people who think Michael Bay is too highbrow.

ManateeGag: Um...No.

RDJr. is the perfect Tony Stark. He'd be a shiat Luthor. You don't just need smarm and self love, you need someone who could never admit to being wrong. Think bald Donald Trump (redundant, i know)

Thus why Kevin Spacey was perfect on the last reboot. Shame that Lois Lane was played by a vapid twat.

sure haven't: Terminator Salvation was a good, well-made movie...

The entire canon of 'Terminator', on the other hand, is retarded through and through.

McG is a stupid name, but the guy can make a great film.

/looking forward to the new Superman

Everything you said is wrong except "McG is a stupid name", so thanks for the 'avoid watching Superman' tip.

fusillade762: The McG hate is strong in this thread. Stupid name notwithstanding, the guy gets a pass from me for "Chuck".

He had exactly farkall to do with anything with regards to Chuck after the pilot episode. They just left the credits as having him be executive producer because, fark it, who cares. He didn't write for the show, he didn't give creative input after the pilot, or anything like that.

Good thing, too, because if he had, he probably would have turned Chuck into the same gods-awful trash he tried to turn the American Spaced into before the suits said "fark this" and pulled the plug.

/fark McG

LincolnLogolas: ManateeGag: Um...No.

RDJr. is the perfect Tony Stark. He'd be a shiat Luthor. You don't just need smarm and self love, you need someone who could never admit to being wrong. Think bald Donald Trump (redundant, i know)

Thus why Kevin Spacey was perfect on the last reboot. Shame that Lois Lane was played by a vapid twat.

I find Kevin Spacy irritating and that Superman movie did not change my opinion at all

salvador.hardin: There's no way Robert Downey Jr. has a billion dollars.

Someone hasn't seen the Avengers trailer (new window), perhaps?

fusillade762: Vaguely Racist Lawn Ornament: American Spaced

There was an American attempt at Spaced???

Sort of.

McG took the premise and tried to run with it, without actually contacting Edgar Wright, Simon Pegg, or Jessica Hynes. He got the funds to do a pilot, but nothing ever came of it, because McG's a hack and needs to be kicked in the teeth.

Vaguely Racist Lawn Ornament: McG took the premise and tried to run with it, without actually contacting Edgar Wright, Simon Pegg, or Jessica Hynes. He got the funds to do a pilot, but nothing ever came of it, because McG's a hack and needs to be kicked in the teeth.

Something tells me he stole your girlfriend or something.

/internet rage is amusing

buttery_shame_cave: is it gay of me to say, as a committed, thoroughly hetero male, that RDJ is quite possibly one the sexiest men in the universe?

Maybe. Doesn't make the fact any less true, though.