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(Huffington Post)   Chain saw suicide attempts at hospital linked to Rick Santorum- Well, that's what the headline SAYS, doesn't it?   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 102
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2012-02-21 03:07:17 PM
Is nothing below that monster?

/Probably not.
 
2012-02-21 03:32:28 PM
All that matters is that Rick's daughter gets all the care she needs.
 
2012-02-21 03:48:33 PM
wait, woah, hold on there. He really used his 3 year old's illness in a speech about Obama's health care reform? He's a farking scumbag!
 
2012-02-21 03:52:40 PM
I really, really want to ask him what he would have done if his family was uninsured and his child needed to be hospitalized for pneumonia.
 
2012-02-21 04:00:41 PM

ManateeGag: wait, woah, hold on there. He really used his 3 year old's illness in a speech about Obama's health care reform? He's a farking scumbag!


Taking a page out of the Palin playbook.
 
2012-02-21 05:38:40 PM
Came here to see just what the hell kind of mental health facility would allow patients access to chain saws. Leaving disappointed.

/CTRL+F "chain saw" - only found in headline
//still not voting for Santorum
 
2012-02-21 05:42:14 PM

ManateeGag: wait, woah, hold on there. He really used his 3 year old's illness in a speech about Obama's health care reform? He's a farking scumbag!


Its not unusual for politicians to use family members to score political points. What is sad, however is to use the child to lie.
 
2012-02-21 05:43:04 PM

MasterThief: Came here to see just what the hell kind of mental health facility would allow patients access to chain saws. Leaving disappointed.

/CTRL+F "chain saw" - only found in headline
//still not voting for Santorum


Apparently suicide by chainsaw does happen: Link (new window)
 
2012-02-21 05:48:37 PM
FTA: "We need a health care system that provides consumers the best choices for the best care available. These choices should not be left in the hands of bureaucrats to judge an individual's value. Instead we should place that choice in the hands of the consumer -- the children and the parents -- who can make the best choices for their individual circumstance."

"Put simply, a patient should be the decision-maker in their care -- not a government or bureaucrat."


Unfortunately, the alternative being offered isn't to put the choice in the hands of the consumer, but whether to leave the choice in the hands of corporate bureaucrats rather than government bureaucrats.

/and +1 to subby for a well-spotted headline
 
2012-02-21 05:55:52 PM
"In top-down,government run systems,patients become commodities,and their value is based on their usefulness to society,"

Yeah, because the healthcare industry is in it to make sure the patient is the priority
 
2012-02-21 06:06:36 PM
That is *so* how Milo would twist words around while working at the newspaper in Bloom County.
 
2012-02-21 06:13:20 PM
"In top-down,government run systems,patients become commodities,and their value is based on their usefulness to society,"

So that's how the VA works. I was wondering about that.
 
2012-02-21 06:18:28 PM
So he's opposed to insurance company paper pushers making decisions then too?
 
2012-02-21 06:22:07 PM
"In top-down,government run systems,patients become commodities,and their value is based on their usefulness to society,"

As opposed to a system in which patients become commodities, and their value is based on how much profit they provide to the insurance corporation. Good to know, Rick.
 
2012-02-21 06:27:43 PM

propasaurus: All that matters is that Rick's daughter gets all the care she needs.


As long as she never needs birth control for any reason.
 
2012-02-21 06:33:17 PM
Both sides are bad. Vote Leatherface.
 
2012-02-21 06:33:45 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: That is *so* how Milo would twist words around while working at the newspaper in Bloom County.


Have you ever heard of a book called "Dwarf Rapes Nun, Flees in UFO?" The whole story, set in the newsroom of a paper acquired by a Rupert Murdoch-like villain, builds up to an explanation of the title. It's hilarious.
 
2012-02-21 06:34:00 PM
With Rick being big on the whole "Abortion for me, but not for thee" with respect to the "me" being his wife, this is really no surprise. He's a gigantic hypocrite.
 
2012-02-21 06:38:50 PM
I got distracted (before I even got to the headline) by the "Reclaim 2012" banner. What is Huffpo trying to reclaim, and from whom? Are they trying to reclaim the narrative from the GOP, who are dominating it thanks to the trainwreck primaries? Or are they trying to entice right wing readers by making them think that they agree that the White House has been usurped and needs to be reclaimed?

As for the article, Santorum being on the board of a company that's done the things UHS is alleged to have done doesn't really surprise me, which I find sad.
 
2012-02-21 06:41:14 PM
You know, I bet at this point Huntsman is kicking himself for dropping out.
 
2012-02-21 06:42:06 PM
i wish the best for the little girl.

/sadface
 
2012-02-21 06:43:52 PM

ManateeGag: wait, woah, hold on there. He really used his 3 year old's illness in a speech about Obama's health care reform? He's a farking scumbag!


I think a more accurate term is "complete and total sociopath".
 
2012-02-21 06:44:48 PM

skyotter: i wish the best for the little girl.


I want for someone who is in the same position but without the same means to show up at a town hall or debate and ask Rick just what he plans on doing to help them, given they don't have the means he has.
 
2012-02-21 06:45:07 PM
"In top-down, government run systems, patients become commodities, and their value is based on their usefulness to society," Santorum elaborated to The Huffington Post. "Often times, those with special needs are not viewed as 'useful' by society's standards -- and far too many like our little girl have been forced to receive inadequate care and in many instances no care at all."

This is an outrageous lie, a slur on the good names of millions of health-care workers around the world, a disgusting and vile canard. In public healthcare systems, people with special needs are assessed on the basis of their needs. Never ever has a person's 'usefulness' been taken into account when assessing people's treatment and care in a system like the NHS for example. In your perverse system they are assessed primarily on the basis of their parent's wallets. how the shiatTING fark is that more moral?
 
2012-02-21 06:46:40 PM
It's all about the money, and keeping it flowing
 
2012-02-21 06:47:33 PM
Call me naive, but how can hospitals like this exist?
 
2012-02-21 06:47:34 PM
Came wondering where on the political dial this story rested.

/left puzzled without a dial
 
2012-02-21 06:47:57 PM
Well, I for one, am disappointed the article failed to regale me with tales of chainsaw suicides.
 
2012-02-21 06:50:05 PM

WhyteRaven74: skyotter: i wish the best for the little girl.

I want for someone who is in the same position but without the same means to show up at a town hall or debate and ask Rick just what he plans on doing to help them, given they don't have the means he has.


They'd be tased and pepper sprayed back to the stone age.
 
2012-02-21 06:50:26 PM
Can we be sure they were suicides?

shittymovienight.com
 
2012-02-21 06:51:15 PM

WhyteRaven74: skyotter: i wish the best for the little girl.

I want for someone who is in the same position but without the same means to show up at a town hall or debate and ask Rick just what he plans on doing to help them, given they don't have the means he has.


Nothing. Is their fault for being poor.

He'll just dress it up infancier words, but that's what he'd say.
 
2012-02-21 06:51:28 PM
"In top-down, government run systems, patients become commodities, and their value is based on their usefulness to society,"

You mean as opposed to the altruism and philanthropy displayed to patients by for-profit insurance companies?
 
2012-02-21 06:51:59 PM

The 4chan Psychiatrist: Well, I for one, am disappointed the article failed to regale me with tales of chainsaw suicides.


Ya gotta be galed before you can be re-galed
 
2012-02-21 06:53:12 PM
If you've ever seen
What chainsaws can do
You know what it's like
To wish the chainsawing was through
And don't it seem like a long time
Seem like a long time
Seems like a long long time
 
2012-02-21 06:53:18 PM
I would be willing to consider removing government from healthcare if no healthcare company were allowed to make a single cent of profit.
 
2012-02-21 06:53:19 PM

muck4doo: MasterThief: Came here to see just what the hell kind of mental health facility would allow patients access to chain saws. Leaving disappointed.

/CTRL+F "chain saw" - only found in headline
//still not voting for Santorum

Apparently suicide by chainsaw does happen: Link (new window)


If you think that's nuts, you should read up on the several people that have built their own guillotines to commit suicide. One of them took place only about 15 minutes from my work. One guy in the UK even used a complex electromechanical timing device to release the blade and a second one to shut off the power after the deed was done. Seriously, if you're that determined to end your life, it's guaranteed that you're going to find a way to do it at some point. Still, I don't understand the headline given that there's no mention of a chainsaw in the article.
 
2012-02-21 06:54:29 PM

SilentStrider: He'll just dress it up infancier words, but that's what he'd say.


Exactly. Thing is though, people with sick children don't exactly take kindly to being talked down to or being bullshiat and they'd let Rick know what they think of his ideas.
 
2012-02-21 06:54:43 PM
I am actually more concerned with the stuff in rest of the article than with the chain saw in the headline.

Are these 19th century for profit 'care' institutions for children really so common. Is there really an industry out there that profits from having children with behaviour problems institutionalized in inhumane conditions? I always thought that phrases like "runs on forsaken orphans" were just metaphorical, but it appears to be a valid business model in America.

\ Will you walk away from Omelas?
 
2012-02-21 06:56:40 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: I would be willing to consider removing government from healthcare if no healthcare company were allowed to make a single cent of profit.


My healthcare company is such a one. The CEO, me, takes all the excess cash at the end of the year as his salary. Ergo...no profit. Income = expenses.
 
2012-02-21 06:57:14 PM
Too bad he doesn't live in the UK where his daughter would actually get the care she needs, instead of whatever is the best deal for Santorum's HMO.
 
2012-02-21 06:57:16 PM

wandererobtm101: propasaurus: All that matters is that Rick's daughter gets all the care she needs.

As long as she never needs birth control for any reason.


Pfffttt.. you know if she did, she'd get it.
 
2012-02-21 06:57:20 PM

Counter_Intelligent: Call me naive, but how can hospitals like this exist?


Not enough money/people to enforce regulations. Thus, government sucks.
 
2012-02-21 06:58:03 PM
Speaking of chainsaws: Please don't ever (never!) Google "Mexican cartel chainsaw execution video".

It will seriously fark your mind up.
 
2012-02-21 06:58:46 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: I would be willing to consider removing government from healthcare if no healthcare company were allowed to make a single cent of profit.


I'd like to see doctors stop being such bloodsuckers.

/ old enough to remember when my doctor lived in a house that was the same size as all the other middle-class houses in town.
 
2012-02-21 07:00:09 PM

Loki-L: I am actually more concerned with the stuff in rest of the article than with the chain saw in the headline.

Are these 19th century for profit 'care' institutions for children really so common. Is there really an industry out there that profits from having children with behaviour problems institutionalized in inhumane conditions? I always thought that phrases like "runs on forsaken orphans" were just metaphorical, but it appears to be a valid business model in America.

\ Will you walk away from Omelas?


Yes, and then it continues when the kids reach adulthood and end up in the for-profit prison industry...
 
2012-02-21 07:00:57 PM

SilentStrider: He'll just dress it up infancier words, but that's what he'd say.


This.

"I would do anything I could to make sure that my children and family have adequate health coverage, I've worked hard my entire life to provide for my family as a responsible man of the house. If a bla- If some people don't want to do that, the responsibility shouldn't fall on my shoulders; I shouldn't have to work to take care of my family and someone else's. That may be Obama's idea, to provide for those who choose not to provide for themselves, but that's not the Real America™ I know and love, and want to return to."

Etc. etc. etc.
 
2012-02-21 07:01:42 PM

SilentStrider: WhyteRaven74: skyotter: i wish the best for the little girl.

I want for someone who is in the same position but without the same means to show up at a town hall or debate and ask Rick just what he plans on doing to help them, given they don't have the means he has.

Nothing. Is their fault for being poor.

He'll just dress it up infancier words, but that's what he'd say.


"Buy an iPad, kid."

Seriously, fark you Santorum. fark you, you worthless, despicable shiatstain of a human being.
 
2012-02-21 07:04:31 PM
There once was a guy named Santorum
dressed in fine sweater vest decorum

One day he thought it would be good to be king
As Dick-tatorship is a godly and wonderful thing

Alas when he opened his holy and divine mouth
seems his brain had clearly gone south

But fear not as all is not lost
for the GOP there will be a great cost

much to their chagrin
Obama will win, again.

Ha
 
2012-02-21 07:08:17 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: That is *so* how Milo would twist words around while working at the newspaper in Bloom County.


I was so looking forward to the chainsaw suicides...
 
2012-02-21 07:09:08 PM

Loki-L: \ Will you walk away from Omelas?


I love that story.
 
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