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2012-02-21 02:51:21 PM
Fluorescent Testicle: Pollexter: Texted mommy instead of calling 911...? Riiight. She's in a motel 4 blocks from home doing meth and banging her 28 boyfriend.

In a row?


Lying about your abduction so you can bang your 28 boyfriends simultaneously isn't normal, but on meth it is.

/dropped a "y/o", yo
 
2012-02-21 02:51:25 PM
NightOwl2255: Bruxellensis: mooseyfate: Has anybody mentioned glow in the dark handles yet?

/because glow in the dark handles are what you pull in this situation

I think we got that covered for now. We will quiz you later.

What do I pull? I do not want to get this part wrong.


Hold on, I'll have to look back at my notes. It's in here somewhere.
 
2012-02-21 02:51:32 PM
AFKobel: Timmy the Tumor: Kidnapping and rape victims don't always think clearly...if she had enough focus to text someone for help, she's a hero not a "lying attention whore."

A hero? For thinking of using her phone after being kidnapped?

Wow. No one is limbo-ing under that bar.




You must not have kids. I've got two teenagers, and some of their friends wouldn't think to douse themselves in water if they burst into flame.
 
2012-02-21 02:51:57 PM
kimwim: AFKobel: Pollexter: Texted mommy instead of calling 911...? Riiight. She's in a motel 4 blocks from home doing meth and banging her 28 boyfriend.

How many boyfriends?

28


That's as many as four sevens.
And that's terrible
 
2012-02-21 02:52:06 PM
Hopefully the kidnapper doesn't like lunch-time rape.
 
2012-02-21 02:52:10 PM
Whatthefark: Something doesn't sit right with me here. Why call mommy first? Why not call the police and leave the phone on so they could triangulate her location?

It's probably her first time being kidnapped...I'm sure she'll get it right next time.
 
2012-02-21 02:52:31 PM
Wait a minute, it's a hoax and I can prove it.

Vans don't have trunks.
 
2012-02-21 02:52:53 PM
I've seen the handles in the back of the trunk and have wondered just how useful the glow in the dark part would really be. Most glow in the dark stuff has to have a good amount of light before the glow is worthwhile.
On one hand, opening the trunk and throwing someone in it wouldn't "charge" it up to get much, if any glow.
On the other hand if it is pitch black in the trunk you might not need much glow to see it. Of course, if there is any outside light your eyes would have to take time to adjust to the dark and see the glow and the glow might not last that long.
On the Gripping Hand, if you are thrown in the trunk at night you are screwed.

/no I haven't thought much about this scenario, why do you ask?
 
2012-02-21 02:53:13 PM
<shakes fist> Damn you, theorellior!
 
2012-02-21 02:53:23 PM
Benevolent Misanthrope: That's as many as four sevens.
And that's terrible


: P
 
2012-02-21 02:53:29 PM
ManateeGag: cig-mkr: Abby, on NCIS would have triangulated her location within minutes.
Oh, wait that's not real life.

F' Her. Penelope on Criminal Minds would tell you the make and model of the car and what the unsub had for breakfast that morning.


Arrrgggg, I forgot about Penelope ! And she would call you babycakes too.
Timmy "on it boss" McGee may have had a shot and would know the unsub's financials too.
 
2012-02-21 02:54:41 PM
Bruxellensis: Hold on, I'll have to look back at my notes. It's in here somewhere.

Never mind, I've already pulled it, repeatedly.
 
2012-02-21 02:55:26 PM
So, have they tried texting her back and telling her to call 911 so they can trace the phone?
 
2012-02-21 02:55:55 PM
Timmy the Tumor: Kidnapping and rape victims don't always think clearly...if she had enough focus to text someone for help, she's a hero not a "lying attention whore."

Where exactly is the line between resistant victim and hero?
 
2012-02-21 02:56:02 PM
NightOwl2255: Bruxellensis: Hold on, I'll have to look back at my notes. It's in here somewhere.

Never mind, I've already pulled it, repeatedly.


Did you ever find the glow-in-the-dark handle?
 
2012-02-21 02:56:35 PM
I know, they should call Romney in to help with this. He's had some experience finding lost daughters. It's not like he's got anything else going on.
 
2012-02-21 02:56:37 PM
Shenanigans!: Whatthefark: Something doesn't sit right with me here. Why call mommy first? Why not call the police and leave the phone on so they could triangulate her location?

It's probably her first time being kidnapped...I'm sure she'll get it right next time.


Farking n00bs. Always messing things up.
 
2012-02-21 02:56:41 PM
Benevolent Misanthrope: So, have they tried texting her back and telling her to call 911 so they can trace the phone?

THE CALL WAS COMING FROM INSIDE THE TRUNK!
 
2012-02-21 02:57:01 PM
Those little glow in the dark trunk escape handles are very easy to remove, so there's no guarantee it was even there.
 
2012-02-21 02:58:27 PM
Iceman_Cometh: I've seen the handles in the back of the trunk and have wondered just how useful the glow in the dark part would really be. Most glow in the dark stuff has to have a good amount of light before the glow is worthwhile.
On one hand, opening the trunk and throwing someone in it wouldn't "charge" it up to get much, if any glow.
On the other hand if it is pitch black in the trunk you might not need much glow to see it. Of course, if there is any outside light your eyes would have to take time to adjust to the dark and see the glow and the glow might not last that long.
On the Gripping Hand, if you are thrown in the trunk at night you are screwed.

/no I haven't thought much about this scenario, why do you ask?


She could access the Flashlight App on her phone to charge the glow light.
/kidding
 
2012-02-21 02:58:34 PM
I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those meddling kids!
 
2012-02-21 02:59:50 PM
BurnShrike: This is what's wrong with the world today. She had a cell phone. She didn't phone the police, or 911. She texted her mommy

Actually, some cellphones have a *siren* that goes off if you call 911. I know my old one did: I found that out when I dialed 911 after someone went from standing to falling into my back and sliding unconcious to the floor.
(Turns out she had narcolepsy, but seeing as I didn't know that and no one else was doing anything-)

The phone went "WOOP WOOP WOOP" to alert me that I'd dialed 911, to.. I guess prevent pocket-dials of 911 or something?

But, had I been in a situation where I was trying to dial 911 *discretely*, that, uh, would have screwed me.
 
2012-02-21 03:00:23 PM
kimwim: AFKobel: Pollexter: Texted mommy instead of calling 911...? Riiight. She's in a motel 4 blocks from home doing meth and banging her 28 boyfriend.

How many boyfriends?

28


In a row?
 
2012-02-21 03:00:28 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Those little glow in the dark trunk escape handles are very easy to remove, so there's no guarantee it was even there.

I'm betting that if a kidnapper lets his victim keep her cell phone... he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, and probably didn't think to remove the victim-escape-device located in the trunk.

Hell, he probably forgot his gun in there too.
 
2012-02-21 03:01:09 PM
Whatthefark: Something doesn't sit right with me here. Why call mommy first? Why not call the police and leave the phone on so they could triangulate her location?

I truly hope she is OK, but I can't help thinking that we'll see a follow up in a couple of days saying the girl lied and was getting back at mommy for some reason.


Making a call using your voice which my be heard by the freak who kidnapped you and expedite your murder.
 
2012-02-21 03:01:12 PM
Protip: when getting kidnapped, try at least to remember the color of car when you are being thrown into said car's trunk. Make of car at the very least would also be helpful. As you are tossed over the transom, try and glance at the license plate; you'd be surprised, even a few number/letter combinations can clue the police into an accurate model/make and owner.

Finally, while saving precious rollover minutes by texting instead of calling is practical and budget conscious, a situation like this calls for a phone call to an easily remembered number with only 3 digits. 911 911 911. And just stay on the line, burn those minutes, who cares, they may be the last minutes, and the last hope, you ever have.
 
2012-02-21 03:02:05 PM
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2012-02-21 03:02:24 PM
I guess she didn't have a smart phone and couldn't just see where she was with google maps and tell the police that =\

Hope they find the poor girl.
 
2012-02-21 03:03:03 PM
AFKobel: theorellior: BurnShrike: This is what's wrong with the world today. She had a cell phone. She didn't phone the police, or 911. She texted her mommy

Well, texting is quieter than calling 911. You can't really text the police.

Isn't that an NWA song?


"Text da Police, don't call the authorities
'Cause a teen without unlimited text is a minority"
 
2012-02-21 03:03:38 PM
 
2012-02-21 03:03:45 PM
I would make a 4 square kidnapped badge in the shape of a van but I am too lazy.
 
2012-02-21 03:04:36 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Those little glow in the dark trunk escape handles are very easy to remove, so there's no guarantee it was even there.

Speaking from experience?
 
2012-02-21 03:04:41 PM
cgraves67: Timmy the Tumor: Kidnapping and rape victims don't always think clearly...if she had enough focus to text someone for help, she's a hero not a "lying attention whore."

Where exactly is the line between resistant victim and hero?


well, I'd say "anyone who survives a kidnapping and or rape" whose actions result in that person being arrested so they can't do it to someone else is a "hero."

Where do you draw the line?
 
2012-02-21 03:07:50 PM
Manfred J. Hattan: That she found it
Appropriate to text her mother rather than
Warn her friends or call the
Authorities tells me she
Needs not rescuing but an
Asskicking.


/hope I'm right.


The Reverend Al sees what you did there...
 
2012-02-21 03:08:03 PM
Tainted1: I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those meddling kids!

What, the kidnapping and rape of a 100-lb high school student?

Man, Scooby-Doo has taken a dark turn lately.


/Michael Bay reboot?
// could be worse... could be a Tim Burton reboot.
 
2012-02-21 03:08:49 PM
BurnShrike: This is what's wrong with the world today. She had a cell phone. She didn't phone the police, or 911. She texted her mommy

Came here to say this, and to make a remark about her updating her Tweeter/FB status, but those remarks have been made already.
 
2012-02-21 03:09:23 PM
Timmy the Tumor: cgraves67: Timmy the Tumor: Kidnapping and rape victims don't always think clearly...if she had enough focus to text someone for help, she's a hero not a "lying attention whore."

Where exactly is the line between resistant victim and hero?

well, I'd say "anyone who survives a kidnapping and or rape" whose actions result in that person being arrested so they can't do it to someone else is a "hero."

Where do you draw the line?


Well, by your definition you jumped the gun a little on tagging her hero then... didn't ya?
 
2012-02-21 03:09:27 PM
cig-mkr: Abby, on NCIS would have triangulated her location within minutes.
Oh, wait that's not real life.


"Find My iPhone" takes about 30 seconds...
 
2012-02-21 03:11:21 PM
NightOwl2255: Bruxellensis: Hold on, I'll have to look back at my notes. It's in here somewhere.

Never mind, I've already pulled it, repeatedly.


But, how were you able to find the handle in the dark?
 
2012-02-21 03:12:27 PM
Tainted1: Whatthefark: Something doesn't sit right with me here. Why call mommy first? Why not call the police and leave the phone on so they could triangulate her location?

I truly hope she is OK, but I can't help thinking that we'll see a follow up in a couple of days saying the girl lied and was getting back at mommy for some reason.

Making a call using your voice which my be heard by the freak who kidnapped you and expedite your murder.


Or you could just whisper. Tell them your being kidnapped and leave the line open for them to triangulate it.
 
2012-02-21 03:14:20 PM
GeekTheMighty: Tainted1: I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those meddling kids!

What, the kidnapping and rape of a 100-lb high school student?

Man, Scooby-Doo has taken a dark turn lately.


/Michael Bay reboot?
// could be worse... could be a Tim Burton reboot.


It could be a lot worse. Poor Tabitha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BIZ79atT14
 
2012-02-21 03:14:37 PM
Pollexter: Texted mommy instead of calling 911...? Riiight. She's in a motel 4 blocks from home doing meth and banging her 28 boyfriend.

In a row?
 
2012-02-21 03:14:50 PM
Wow....what a jaded crowd we have here today.
 
2012-02-21 03:15:38 PM
AFKobel: Timmy the Tumor: cgraves67: Timmy the Tumor: Kidnapping and rape victims don't always think clearly...if she had enough focus to text someone for help, she's a hero not a "lying attention whore."

Where exactly is the line between resistant victim and hero?

well, I'd say "anyone who survives a kidnapping and or rape" whose actions result in that person being arrested so they can't do it to someone else is a "hero."

Where do you draw the line?

Well, by your definition you jumped the gun a little on tagging her hero then... didn't ya?




According to news updates, the SWAT team has a suspect pinned down in a house nearby the victim's.

If she hadn't contacted her mother, it could be another 24-48 hours before a missing persons report was filed and any action taken.

The family doesn't look like they have ridiculous amounts of money, so this was someone who was taking her to a secondary location. That almost ALWAYS turns into something really, really bad.

Should she be fitted for a cape? No. Should she be commended for surviving (which I hope she has)? I vote yes, YMMV
 
2012-02-21 03:16:44 PM
Timmy the Tumor: cgraves67: Timmy the Tumor: Kidnapping and rape victims don't always think clearly...if she had enough focus to text someone for help, she's a hero not a "lying attention whore."

Where exactly is the line between resistant victim and hero?

well, I'd say "anyone who survives a kidnapping and or rape" whose actions result in that person being arrested so they can't do it to someone else is a "hero."

Where do you draw the line?


A lot closer to "personally subduing the villain for the benefit of society".

In the old silent films villians tied damsels to railroad tracks. The damsels screamed for help till the hero rescued them. Screaming for help didn't make them heroes, just damsels in distress. Texting your mommy makes you a damsel in distress not a hero.

Surviving something terrible demonstrates resilience and is admirable, granted, but not heroic. Grouping victims in with heroes tends to weaken the meaning of a hero.
 
2012-02-21 03:17:46 PM
I'll agree to the commendation.

No to the cape.

NO CAPES!
 
2012-02-21 03:18:17 PM
I'm wondering if any modern car part will emit a glow when deprived of light. Any thoughts?
 
2012-02-21 03:18:37 PM
Yikes...hate to say it, but this probably won't end well. If they haven't been able to trace her phone signal yet or something, they probably won't find her.

that's gotta blow for the parents big time...just no knowing. Oh and the girl too...
 
2012-02-21 03:22:17 PM
Timmy the Tumor: AFKobel: Timmy the Tumor: cgraves67: Timmy the Tumor: Kidnapping and rape victims don't always think clearly...if she had enough focus to text someone for help, she's a hero not a "lying attention whore."

Where exactly is the line between resistant victim and hero?

well, I'd say "anyone who survives a kidnapping and or rape" whose actions result in that person being arrested so they can't do it to someone else is a "hero."

Where do you draw the line?

Well, by your definition you jumped the gun a little on tagging her hero then... didn't ya?



According to news updates, the SWAT team has a suspect pinned down in a house nearby the victim's.

If she hadn't contacted her mother, it could be another 24-48 hours before a missing persons report was filed and any action taken.

The family doesn't look like they have ridiculous amounts of money, so this was someone who was taking her to a secondary location. That almost ALWAYS turns into something really, really bad.

Should she be fitted for a cape? No. Should she be commended for surviving (which I hope she has)? I vote yes, YMMV


BTW, that SWAT action you're speaking of seems to be unrelated to the kidnapping.
 
2012-02-21 03:22:28 PM
ihatedumbpeople:
that's gotta blow for the parents big time...just no knowing. Oh and the girl too...


I have a feeling it is not the parents or girl that is getting blown.
 
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