Lawsuits make bad parents feel better.

So, why was this 13 year old out in the first place?

How did the kid get his hands on it in the first place?

Sounds like poor parenting to me.

Why was a 13 year old driving?

Jake Havechek: Sounds like poor parenting to me.

But but but ENERGY DRINKS!!

Jake Havechek: Sounds like poor parenting to me.

Yes, because a parent has to be there at ALL TIMES in case their snowflake does something dangerous.

Though I agree that being an advocate against energy drinks is not exactly the conclusion I would have come up with. Hell, when I was in high school, we had to contend with Zima and wine coolers.

Another Government Employee: So, why was this 13 year old out in the first place?

soupafi: How did the kid get his hands on it in the first place?

Jake Havechek: Sounds like poor parenting to me.

rjakobi: Why was a 13 year old driving?

Looks like we're done here. Last one out, get the lights.

So.. let's see... it's illegal to consume under 21, illegal for someone to give it to you under 21, the product itself has been banned already and mom only finds fault with the drink?

There are energy drinks laced with alcohol? Where, perchance, may I find these wonders? And here I have been thinking I had to mix them myself.

Ummm...no 13 year old needs any kind of energy drink. Now by 15 when dragging your tuchas in to school starts getting hard a cup or two of good healthy coffee or tea in the morning is fine. But, no bouncing-off-the-wall 13 year old needs caffeine.

IamPatSajak: So.. let's see... it's illegal to consume under 21, illegal for someone to give it to you under 21, the product itself has been banned already and mom only finds fault with the drink?

Two words: Lawsuit lottery.

There's no money in suing whoever supplied the booze, after all.

laced is an odd choice of words, I would have went with spiked. Or does laced sound more sinister?

IamPatSajak: So.. let's see... it's illegal to consume under 21, illegal for someone to give it to you under 21, the product itself has been banned already and mom only finds fault with the drink?

Yes, because I am certain that her thoughts and feelings, in their entirety, appear in this poorly written article. I'm not defending the mom. I'm just saying that you should think a little bit.

kid dies because mom was irresponsible-no charges against her because she is suffering and mourning the loss of the child she brought into this world
kid dies and dad was irresponsible-lynch him

Is this the Mom?

Wodan11: There are energy drinks laced with alcohol? Where, perchance, may I find these wonders? And here I have been thinking I had to mix them myself.

This. I have *heard* of Four Loko repeatedly in the press, but I've yet to actually be in a store that ever sold it.

If only there was a simple, yet effective device that would keep people from falling out of a car!

zomega: Wodan11: There are energy drinks laced with alcohol? Where, perchance, may I find these wonders? And here I have been thinking I had to mix them myself.

This. I have *heard* of Four Loko repeatedly in the press, but I've yet to actually be in a store that ever sold it.

All the ghetto min marts have an amazing array of those drinks, and nitrous multi packs.

zomega: Wodan11: There are energy drinks laced with alcohol? Where, perchance, may I find these wonders? And here I have been thinking I had to mix them myself.

This. I have *heard* of Four Loko repeatedly in the press, but I've yet to actually be in a store that ever sold it.

gas stations usually have it, especially if they are independently owned, but it might depend if they were made illegal in your state. they taste like bad cough syrup usually. it's usually better to make your own mix of caffeine and alcohol, tastes better.

/13 year old was a rookie, should have moved up to liquor by that age!

How does one lace an energy drink? I always thought that laced implied that it was placed there during production without the knowledge of the consumer. Ass opposed to Sparks, Joose, etc, which clearly state on the can that they're packing energy and booze. And I thought I had to mix these myself.

/Her son sounds like an informed consumer.
//13 is really young to be out driving and getting farked up.
///Mom is obviously up for parent of the year.

Well it looks like his Truluck... ran out.

Yeah!!!!

/[caffeine+booze]/13 years == poor parenting

Road_Kill: If only there was a simple, yet effective device that would keep people from falling out of a car!

Those don't help when you're in the grips of booze fueled energy drinks!

I wondered how he fell out and who was driving.

Four Loko is a BIG issue around here (AA County/Baltimore County), and they've been trying to ban it for a while. The fault here seems to be with whoever was letting the 13-year-old go off with his friends and drink the stuff (according to another news report, that's how he got it), as well as whoever gave him an age-restricted substance. And with the kid for drinking it.

Reviews of "alcohol-laced" energy drinks.

According to the NY Daily News, the kid was riding shotgun.

Which means he wasn't driving drunk, so he and his mom have that going for them, which is nice.

This happened less than 1/4 mile from my house. I suspect many lawsuits coming. Who supplied the alchoal, probably some other kid. Who was driving.

/I have never been drunk enough to consider opening a car door going around a corner a good idea.
//I though 4loco tasted like crap.

This happened down the street from my house.

I ran into this accident scene about 5 minutes after it happened (trying to get some $5 footlongs). Looked pretty bad from about 50ft away. Ambulance comes screaming down the street. Asked a girl at the Subway what happened and she said some teenager got hit by a car and was dead, but they were still working on him. Right before Christmas another teen boy was killed right around the corner when he was hit by two cars, so I'm thinking "Great, another one."

So of course Mrs. Jest starts checking FB to see if someone knows who it was. Find out the kids name but don't know him. (One of my daughters goes to the same school) But some friends know him, and their kids are upset, lost a friend, etc. Then another friend says oh yeah, that's the same boy who jumped by son in the bathroom at school and beat him up. Then the details start to come out. Drinking Four Loco in the park, get sick, call mom for a ride. Mom's boyfriend shows up to pick up boys at Auto parts store parking lot. As they pull out of the lot, boy opens door to puke, falls out into oncoming traffic, and gets hit by car.

There is some much DUMASSery going on here, it hurts to think about it.

He wasn't a good kid, he wasn't smart, he wasn't lucky. I feel bad that he's dead, but this was completely avoidable.

He is dead because he made poor choices.

\\Blood stains asphalt
\\\not pretty

rjakobi: Jake Havechek: Sounds like poor parenting to me.

Yes, because a parent has to be there at ALL TIMES in case their snowflake does something dangerous.

Though I agree that being an advocate against energy drinks is not exactly the conclusion I would have come up with. Hell, when I was in high school, we had to contend with Zima and wine coolers.

I like my zima with grenadine and 2 packets of sweet and low.

Why would someone open the DOOR to puke out of a car? I've had my moments of vomiting out of a car (...making my parents proud, I'm sure), but it's always out the window.

I guess being shiatfaced at 13 doesn't really equal making logical decisions.

Surly U. Jest: This happened down the street from my house.

I ran into this accident scene about 5 minutes after it happened (trying to get some $5 footlongs). Looked pretty bad from about 50ft away. Ambulance comes screaming down the street. Asked a girl at the Subway what happened and she said some teenager got hit by a car and was dead, but they were still working on him. Right before Christmas another teen boy was killed right around the corner when he was hit by two cars, so I'm thinking "Great, another one."

So of course Mrs. Jest starts checking FB to see if someone knows who it was. Find out the kids name but don't know him. (One of my daughters goes to the same school) But some friends know him, and their kids are upset, lost a friend, etc. Then another friend says oh yeah, that's the same boy who jumped by son in the bathroom at school and beat him up. Then the details start to come out. Drinking Four Loco in the park, get sick, call mom for a ride. Mom's boyfriend shows up to pick up boys at Auto parts store parking lot. As they pull out of the lot, boy opens door to puke, falls out into oncoming traffic, and gets hit by car.

There is some much DUMASSery going on here, it hurts to think about it.

He wasn't a good kid, he wasn't smart, he wasn't lucky. I feel bad that he's dead, but this was completely avoidable.

He is dead because he made poor choices.

\\Blood stains asphalt
\\\not pretty

Sounds like this kid buying the farm saved the taxpayers from his future incarceration costs.

Banning crap like Four Loko is a good response to stuff like this.

Because if there's one thing I know about 13 year olds who would get drunk in a park and then die after being hit by a car while falling out of a car whose door he opened to puke, it's that he probably wouldn't have just gotten drunk off of something else and had the exact same thing. Four Loko is the reason this kid isn't an honor student!

I thought they banned Four Loko over the summer, but kids were just mixing energy drinks and booze anyways. And its the Baltimore area they should be drinking Natty Bo anyways.
The important lesson here kids is roll down the window to puke and dont open the door.

STFU and be a better parent, lady.

zomega: Wodan11: There are energy drinks laced with alcohol? Where, perchance, may I find these wonders? And here I have been thinking I had to mix them myself.

This. I have *heard* of Four Loko repeatedly in the press, but I've yet to actually be in a store that ever sold it.

I've seen it at Walmart near me (Portland, OR) but I don't think it has caffeine in it like I've always heard. At least it doesn't say it does on the can anywhere.

rjakobi: Jake Havechek: Sounds like poor parenting to me.

Yes, because a parent has to be there at ALL TIMES in case their snowflake does something dangerous.


Except that this isn't some 16 or 17 year old having some beers at a party and breaking a lamp. This is a freakin' 13 year old getting shiatfaced and dying. Yes, poor parenting was involved. This was a child, a 13 year old child. You should know what your 13 year old is up to. Second... If you have to "be there at ALL TIMES" to make sure that your 13 isn't getting shiatfaced then you've failed as a parent.

So yeah. Shiatty parenting.

Surly U. Jest: This happened down the street from my house.

He is dead because he made poor choices.

\\Blood stains asphalt
\\\not pretty

But how were the $5 foot longs?
I can't get those here.

Were they good/ what did you get put on them?

I tried Four Loko before they took out the caffeine, and there were a couple flavors that tasted alright. Now that they took out the caffeine the taste is pretty bad.

/govt intervention ruins everything

So what exactly was he drinking? I'd like to get my hands on it because it sounds like a party.

They've already reformulated Four Loko and taken out the caffeine. They may have even lowered the alcohol.

/they brew it in my town