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2012-02-21 10:26:22 AM
mekki: elffster: I can't believe I ate the whole Jesus!

I don't think Southern Baptists do Communion. That's more of a Catholic thing. But, hey, we now have a new name for Catholics. Good job.


We sort of have it. It's called the "Lord's Supper". It's usually done on special occasions but it can be called at anytime by the church pastor. It's also done with crackers and grape juice instead of bread and wine. No belief that it's actually Christ's flesh either.

As for the name change it seems kind of stupid. I personally wish the history would be owned up to and learned from. Of course I'm the idiot who still attends a Southern Baptist church in hopes that I can change people's minds about their more backwards attitudes.

Fun fact though: the Southern Baptist convention doesn't have any power to do anything in the actual churches. Really it's just a church association that the actual churches can choose to be a part of or not. Basically they take in money from the churches (which the churches choose the amount as a donation) and then use it for mission projects etc. They don't dictate doctrine or appoint ministers or anything like that. All of those decisions are left at the church level. About the only thing they can do is ask a church to leave if the church's doctrine is too far from their own statement of belief.

Anyway all that's to say that any name change is basically meaningless.
 
2012-02-21 10:26:48 AM
Dunkin' give your Dough Nuts
 
2012-02-21 10:26:57 AM
SuperTramp: elffster: I can't believe I ate the whole Jesus!


mekki: I don't think Southern Baptists do Communion. That's more of a Catholic thing. But, hey, we now have a new name for Catholics. Good job.

They most certainly do Communion, just like Methodists, Presbyterians, etc. It's Christian thing.


Hello, most do not. I have three siblings who are baptist. We, generally, didn't go to church growing up, but for one year we went to a Southern Baptist Church and the four girls in the family joined the Baptist version of Girl Scouts. I think it was called Girls in Action or some such. We visited nursing homes, made crafts, learned to cook a couple of things. I still remember how to make chili and fried plantains, but I can't remember how to make the dinner mints.

The first time I saw anyone take communion, I was maybe 16, it freaked me the hell out. I don't know why. It just did.
 
2012-02-21 10:27:37 AM
Defiant Bajoran: xiaodown: Racist Baptist.

You idiots do realize that the current president of the SBC is Black, right?


This guy? (new window)

www.sbc.net

He's right, though; the SBC is changing on race (if a lot of individual congregations are still backward as hell). The first vice president is a black pastor from New Orleans, and he's expected to be elected president this year.
 
2012-02-21 10:28:14 AM
United Bank of Christ the Redneck

/this is fun, we're all going to heaven to be with the FUNDIES
//which if of course the real punishment..
 
2012-02-21 10:28:52 AM
The Fellowship of the Potluck
 
2012-02-21 10:29:01 AM
Drowners for Jesus
 
2012-02-21 10:29:16 AM
mbillips: mekki: elffster: I can't believe I ate the whole Jesus!

I don't think Southern Baptists do Communion. That's more of a Catholic thing. But, hey, we now have a new name for Catholics. Good job.

All Christians do communion. A lot of Protestant denominations use little unleavened oyster-cracker things for the bread, and grape juice for the wine, and only at Christmas and Easter services, but they do communion.


No, all Christians do not do communion. In addition to the quite common number of Baptist churches who do not do communion, the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) do not do communion. But thanks for speaking for everyone.
 
2012-02-21 10:29:18 AM
t2.gstatic.com

Miserable Fat Baptist Bastards
 
2012-02-21 10:29:49 AM
No, bsimmons, this is the white guys. The African American SBC isn't really Southern Baptist. We just let them call themselves that to keep 'em quiet. Besides, it doesn't affect property values in the neighborhood quite as bad as an AME church sign.

My personal favorite is Malevalent Bigots. It's a shame you can't reference Jesus and come up with an acronym that spells DICKHEADS.
 
2012-02-21 10:29:52 AM
SuperTramp: houginator
The church of the divine potluck. Only denomination I have met that even has a potluck after funerals.

Done out of love and respect for the family of the deceased, so that they have food (since they may be grieving to much to feel like preparing food) and to be with them and give support after the funeral.

/arggghhhh, why am I doing this?
//raised Southern Baptist


It's a trap!

Raised American Baptist, though the affiliation was kind of iffy, being a little farm church of maybe 50-60 people. It's one less thing you have to worry about when you're making arrangements, etc.
 
2012-02-21 10:30:32 AM
Bag of Hammers: Fat Belgian Bastards

We fat Belgian bastards are not amused. Don't go conflating us with those nut crackers.
 
2012-02-21 10:31:07 AM
Southern Atheists. No wait, really. Oregon has an "Independent Party" now which people unwittingly register for when they think they're independent. By changing their name to the "Southern Atheists," they will accidentally recruit a bunch more people, and profit.
 
2012-02-21 10:31:13 AM
xiaodown: Racist Baptist.

No, no, hear me out.

Know how the United Methodist Church is "united"? It's because, before the Civil War, they split into a Northern and Southern contingent, because of the issue of slavery. After the war (some time after), the Methodist church re-united to form the United Methodists.

The Baptists did the same thing. Northern Baptists didn't think that man should enslave other man; Southern Baptists found ways to justify their pro-slavery stance using passages from the Bible. The Southern Baptist Church has never reunited with the churches that split before the Civil War, remaining estranged over, originally, the issue of whether slavery is Biblical.

Racist Baptist Church.


And yet, today, there are millions of Black Southern Baptists. A white Baptist may not invite a black one home for Sunday dinner after church, but as long as they tithe, they are welcome. From the Black side, THEY choose to segregate themselves. This isn't due to racism, but history. Black churches have always been a focus for the Black community. They don't want the white folks interfering with this.

As whacked as they seem, the Southern Baptists are one of the least noxious of the evangelical sects. Their biggest problem is that they have allowed their religion to become politicized, which is why former president Jimmy Carter severed his association with the denomination. To my thinking, if a minister is preaching politics from the pulpit, the church should lose its tax-exempt status.
 
2012-02-21 10:31:57 AM
United Church of Krystal Burger
 
2012-02-21 10:33:31 AM
Fundi-Mental-Cases
 
2012-02-21 10:33:42 AM
American Taliban
 
2012-02-21 10:34:08 AM
The Aristocrats
 
2012-02-21 10:35:35 AM
Dominionist Evangelical Religious Party, or DERP for short.
 
2012-02-21 10:35:53 AM
Racist Cracker Church?
 
2012-02-21 10:36:14 AM
North
American
Sociopathic
Christians
And
Republicans
 
2012-02-21 10:36:23 AM

Raging Thespian [TotalFark]

bossuniversalAA: the church of the willfully ignorant

That would imply that their sect has the monopoly on willful ignorance.



point taken
 
2012-02-21 10:36:47 AM
Fred's Abortionist & Gay Slayers
 
2012-02-21 10:36:57 AM
Confraternity of Christian Confederates.
 
2012-02-21 10:38:04 AM
Universal Fundimental Iculcation of America.
 
2012-02-21 10:38:12 AM
JackieRabbit: xiaodown: Racist Baptist.

No, no, hear me out.

Know how the United Methodist Church is "united"? It's because, before the Civil War, they split into a Northern and Southern contingent, because of the issue of slavery. After the war (some time after), the Methodist church re-united to form the United Methodists.

The Baptists did the same thing. Northern Baptists didn't think that man should enslave other man; Southern Baptists found ways to justify their pro-slavery stance using passages from the Bible. The Southern Baptist Church has never reunited with the churches that split before the Civil War, remaining estranged over, originally, the issue of whether slavery is Biblical.

Racist Baptist Church.

And yet, today, there are millions of Black Southern Baptists. A white Baptist may not invite a black one home for Sunday dinner after church, but as long as they tithe, they are welcome. From the Black side, THEY choose to segregate themselves. This isn't due to racism, but history. Black churches have always been a focus for the Black community. They don't want the white folks interfering with this.

As whacked as they seem, the Southern Baptists are one of the least noxious of the evangelical sects. Their biggest problem is that they have allowed their religion to become politicized, which is why former president Jimmy Carter severed his association with the denomination. To my thinking, if a minister is preaching politics from the pulpit, the church should lose its tax-exempt status.


I didn't know Jimmy had severed his association with the denomination. We stopped attending the particular Baptist church we went to when I was a kid because the Minister resigned due to loud-mouths trying to turn the church into a right-wing political force. Now, I have one sibling who attends a non-denominational congregation, three who attend Baptist churches, and I attend a Friends meeting. We all attend mixed race congregations, but mine is the only congregation that supports gay marriage and has gay couples who attend. All, but one of my siblings hope to see that kind of progress in their own congregations someday. The last one laments that he and his wife "have got to find another church".
 
2012-02-21 10:39:15 AM
Belgians.

/because someone already said Hypocritical Assholes
 
2012-02-21 10:39:27 AM
www.disnology.com

/hot
 
2012-02-21 10:40:57 AM
cfreak: About the only thing they can do is ask a church to leave if the church's doctrine is too far from their own statement of belief.

Two churches near where I live were kicked out of the convention a few years ago. One of them accepted a gay couple into their membership. The other stood in solidarity with them. Though I'm not gay nor a member of either of the churches, it was the beginning of my de-conversion. I eventually called the church that I was a member and asked them to remove me from the roll.
 
2012-02-21 10:41:02 AM
Sir Arthur Streeb-Greebling
Fred's Abortionist & Gay Slayers

Fred Phelps' church is not a member of the Southern Baptist Convention, and not affiliated with them in any way. The leaders of the SBC have publicly denounced him and his tactics.

/the more you know
 
2012-02-21 10:41:17 AM
Zombie Worshipping Idiots That Pray To A Stick.
 
2012-02-21 10:41:46 AM
S.outhern
C.hristian
U.nited
B.aptists
of
A.merica
 
2012-02-21 10:43:49 AM
wellreadneck: North
American
Sociopathic
Christians
And
Republicans


I like you.
 
2012-02-21 10:44:40 AM
Th Church of Save the Fetuses So We Can Execute Them Later
 
2012-02-21 10:44:48 AM
SuperTramp: elffster: I can't believe I ate the whole Jesus!


mekki: I don't think Southern Baptists do Communion. That's more of a Catholic thing. But, hey, we now have a new name for Catholics. Good job.

They most certainly do Communion, just like Methodists, Presbyterians, etc. It's Christian thing.


It wasn't until I left the SoBap church (the minute I was able to) that I found out that other churches use wine instead of Welches grape juice. Who knew?
 
2012-02-21 10:44:54 AM
Jesus Stole My Hot Rod NASCAR Baptists.
 
2012-02-21 10:45:05 AM
The RIWW southern division

Racist Invisable Wizard Worshippers
 
2012-02-21 10:45:25 AM
Attack of the White Pointy Steeples

/church steeples in the distance sometimes remind me of shark dorsal fins breaking the water's surface
//Not that I feel very threatened by white pointy buildings
///except when skydiving
 
2012-02-21 10:46:26 AM
Australis Submergents?

Anti-Polar Non-Floaters?

Rebel Dowsers?

Wet Rednecks?
 
2012-02-21 10:47:40 AM
FatherDale

It wasn't until I left the SoBap church (the minute I was able to) that I found out that other churches use wine instead of Welches grape juice. Who knew?

Hah, me too. But you know, that demon liquor.....
 
2012-02-21 10:48:33 AM
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: National Association of Missionary Baptists and Laity of America

elffster: I can't believe I ate the whole Jesus!

Wouldn't that be reserved for the Cat'licks?
 
2012-02-21 10:50:06 AM
Republican Party- Southern Branch
 
2012-02-21 10:50:31 AM
The New Prohibitionists
 
2012-02-21 10:50:53 AM
mekki: elffster: I can't believe I ate the whole Jesus!

I don't think Southern Baptists do Communion. That's more of a Catholic thing. But, hey, we now have a new name for Catholics. Good job.


They have communion, they just don't believe they are eating Jesus, like the Catholics do.
 
2012-02-21 10:51:08 AM
Not all southern Baptists are Southern Baptists. It's not quite Sunni and Shia, but there's often no love lost between some Baptists in the south. It's just easier to villify all of them around election time. Last time, they scapegoated the ragheads, this time, it's the redneck's turn. Turn-about's fair play.
 
2012-02-21 10:51:41 AM
Brother Stair and The Overcomer Ministry
 
2012-02-21 10:53:35 AM
Deatheaters
 
2012-02-21 10:54:04 AM
Random Discord: houginator: The church of the divine potluck. Only denomination I have met that even has a potluck after funerals.

Too true.

Fire, Brimstone, and Potluck


Well, you wouldn't want a cold potluck; that would just be gross.

/grew up Southern Baptist
//In my experience the Baptist Missionary Association of America (yes it's real) has a greater ratio of potlucks per capita that the SBC.
 
2012-02-21 10:54:10 AM
Jesus rode a dinosaur-ists
 
2012-02-21 10:57:31 AM
Lunaville: I didn't know Jimmy had severed his association with the denomination. We stopped attending the particular Baptist church we went to when I was a kid because the Minister resigned due to loud-mouths trying to turn the church into a right-wing political force. Now, I have one sibling who attends a non-denominational congregation, three who attend Baptist churches, and I attend a Friends meeting. We all attend mixed race congregations, but mine is the only congregation that supports gay marriage and has gay couples who attend. All, but one of my siblings hope to see that kind of progress in their own congregations someday. The last one laments that he and his wife "have got to find another church".

Yes, Carter did this about five years ago, I think. It's a shame, because he was a deacon in his church. He is living proof that the SBC weren't always politicized and that they did instill wholesome values.

One of the problems that the Baptists have is that congregations hire their ministers. Many Protestant mainline denominations assign their ministers to their churches and the congregation has little to nothing to say about it unless they can show wrong-doing on the part of their minister. They also dictate doctrine, but usually allow laypeople to participate in this process. This insures uniformity and prevents politicization.

I refuse to bash Baptists. While I think they have some problems with their theology and doctrine, I know a lot of very devote and sane Baptists, who live their religion. But they simply must get politics out of their pulpits. THey need to take a lesson form the New Testament and understand why, when Simon attempted to get Jesus to join the zealot movement, Jesus refused.
 
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