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(AZCentral)   Man goes into Walmart bathroom stall, sits down, drops his revolver, the revolver shoots a bullet, the bullet goes through the stall door, hits a wall, ricochets into a ceiling light, back onto the floor toward a man standing at a urinal. Ta-da   (azcentral.com) divider line 136
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2012-02-21 02:07:39 AM
I refuse to believe this story.

If there's one thing I've learned from Fark's gun nuts fans, it's that guns are safer than the MSM makes them out to be, and do not simply go off when dropped.
 
2012-02-21 02:22:16 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Am I wrong to be so skeptical? Do firearms "just fire" on a regular basis when bumped?


With a modern firearm, no. It can be a concern on some dated designs that lack a firing pin disconnect, hammer block, or transfer bar safety. Anything manufactured after 1968 should be drop safe.

A single action revolver (or a really dated DA) might have this problem, which is why the approved old-school way of carrying a wheelgun is with an empty chamber under the hammer. Classic single-action autos can have the same problem, which is why you never carry a 1911 or Browning Hi-Power variant in Condition 2 (hammer down on a loaded chamber).

More likely scenario is someone didn't keep his booger hook off the bang switch.
 
2012-02-21 02:25:29 AM
HEY DREW!

How 'bout a WALMART tag already???
 
2012-02-21 03:08:20 AM

Kell Bartok: HEY DREW!

How 'bout a WALMART tag already???


Trademark issues.
 
2012-02-21 03:55:01 AM
I think it's pretty fair to warn you that I swing a pretty fast shootin' iron myself. See that church bell over there? I'll carom a shot off of it, then off the water-tower, through the bottle on this here bar, then part your hair right down the middle.

i1130.photobucket.com
 
2012-02-21 05:13:12 AM

TKM: Every Hole on this thread who doesn't understand guns is going straight to Ignore Hell.

AMF.


All I know is if you get a pistol to protect against yourself against bears, you should file down the sight. Otherwise its going to hurt even more when the bear shoves that gun up your ass.

/paraphrased from something.... i don't remebember what
 
2012-02-21 05:58:53 AM
www.tigriffith.com

Deep shiat, Epstein.
 
2012-02-21 06:25:36 AM
"drop a revolver".
Quick - to the euphemism-mobile!
 
2012-02-21 06:33:18 AM
Why the hell would you feel the need to take a gun to Wal-mart? Something was wrong with this man long before he shot a random stranger.
 
2012-02-21 06:53:42 AM

jbuist: Which brings me to another point: For all the yammering we hear about training requirements to get a carry permit not one state, to my knowledge, requires that you demonstrate the ability to take a crap while carrying a gun.


This is an outrage!
 
2012-02-21 08:20:41 AM

Fista-Phobia: retrograde: Gun porn thread?

"You know if had cross-checked the hexi-dermiturge and filed down the drezzle valve regulator on the multi-cross dingle gauge at least three hours before ratcheting the wang nozzle points everything would have been just fine."

Sure. Shot a friend's SCAR heavy with an ACOG. Good times. GIS for this configuration:

[farm7.static.flickr.com image 500x334]


This is an old thread but I have to comment.

I was at the range Sunday and this fat nerdy looking dude next to us had a SCAR. When we were leaving I used the scope to see his target. Just what I thought, looked like he used a shotgun and still missed.

If you're going to spend that kind of money on a firearm, you should probably learn basic marksmanship first.
 
2012-02-21 08:21:11 AM

SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn1.google.com image 247x204]

This is a fun little powerhouse.


picturearchive.gunauction.com
THIS is a fun BIG powerhouse.

/A couple of hood rats were popping off a Hi-point .45 at the range, thought they were the shiat. Until I fired this. If you use Magtech ammo, it creates a wonderful fireball.
 
2012-02-21 09:01:51 AM

redTiburon: a Glock or other modern handgun would not have done that. Rugers are for guys who want to play cowboy.


What about those of use who actually ARE cowboys??
 
2012-02-21 09:14:59 AM

pisceandreamer: OK, someone tell me why Arizona doesn't have a tag yet?


It's because it would diminish Florida as the joke of a state that it is. I've lived in Arizona and I've spent way too much time in Florida. They both share a significant portion of population of people who are snowbirds. They live up north during the summer and flee the snow for warmer climates during the winter months.

But - and I'm just pulling this out of my ass because I don't really know - in Florida old people actually move there permanently. My grandparents did that but at least they had 2 daughters living there - in mobile homes. One was in a trailer park and she yelled at the TV when football came on. The other had 2 double-wides stitched together and an above ground pool and a free-standing garage on a plot of land 3 times bigger than my parents ranch-style home back in the 'burbs of Houston.

But I digress. Florida is very different from Arizona because Florida is a stupid place to want to live. It's hot, it's humid and you have the threat of hurricanes every farking year. It's all basically swampland and you shouldn't be surprised if your cute little puppy goes missing because an alligator probably ate it.

Arizona, OTOH, is actually a very beautiful place. If you've never been to the desert you really need to check it out. It's not just barren sand. It is hot and the cloudless sunny days do get sort of monotonous, but it's not humid so it isn't a big deal.

They do have more than their fair share of crazies though. First off, there's the people in Phoenix and surrounding cities who keep farking voting Joe Arpaio into office. I think most of them are actually from places like Idaho and Wyoming and probably register their cars there too because it's cheaper and they have no qualms about voting in both states.

And then you've got the Mormons. There are a few Mormon communities in AZ and these are the Mormons who actually practice polygamy. They mostly keep to themselves, but they also run the towns they've settled in.

And there are skinheads and neo-nazis too but any time any of them rears their ugly head they pretty much get more press than they deserve.

And then there's all them Mexicans. Of course, a lot of them are actually Americans and have lived in Arizona for generations. And some of them are so anti-illegal immigration that they'd be called racists by some people on Fark.

And there's also crazy new-agers. They mostly live up in Sedona though. Hippies love Arizona for some reason. I guess it's not as crowded or expensive as California or Eugene.
 
2012-02-21 09:18:14 AM

JesseL:

Let's see:
Location: Manhattan

What a surprise. Please stay there.


One of the nice things about living in Manhattan is it is highly unlikely some idiot is going to shoot you through the door of a men's room stall.
 
2012-02-21 09:22:56 AM

MythDragon: SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn1.google.com image 247x204]

This is a fun little powerhouse.

[picturearchive.gunauction.com image 640x480]
THIS is a fun BIG powerhouse.

/A couple of hood rats were popping off a Hi-point .45 at the range, thought they were the shiat. Until I fired this. If you use Magtech ammo, it creates a wonderful fireball.


You get the same effect from the 2" barrel, only you have to watch yourself a little because your hand isn't too terribly far from the flame burst. Honestly, I walked into a range with mine once and folks were firing off shotguns that were quieter than the Rhino.
 
2012-02-21 09:32:23 AM

SN1987a goes boom: MythDragon: SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn1.google.com image 247x204]

This is a fun little powerhouse.

[picturearchive.gunauction.com image 640x480]
THIS is a fun BIG powerhouse.

/A couple of hood rats were popping off a Hi-point .45 at the range, thought they were the shiat. Until I fired this. If you use Magtech ammo, it creates a wonderful fireball.

You get the same effect from the 2" barrel, only you have to watch yourself a little because your hand isn't too terribly far from the flame burst. Honestly, I walked into a range with mine once and folks were firing off shotguns that were quieter than the Rhino.


I've heard (second hand) of people having trouble with the Rhino. How do you like yours? Worth the price?
 
2012-02-21 10:01:58 AM

T.M.S.: JesseL:

Let's see:
Location: Manhattan

What a surprise. Please stay there.

One of the nice things about living in Manhattan is it is highly unlikely some idiot is going to shoot you through the door of a men's room stall.


Not with a gun anyway. The meat missile on the other hand...
 
2012-02-21 10:10:07 AM

lostcat: If there's one thing I've learned from Fark's gun nuts fans, it's that guns are safer than the MSM makes them out to be, and do not simply go off when dropped.


An unmodified gun straight from the factory, maybe...

A gun that's been 'customized' by somebody who reads too many tough guy magazines and uses the bathroom in Walmart? Not so much.
 
2012-02-21 10:12:50 AM

MythDragon: SN1987a goes boom: MythDragon: SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn1.google.com image 247x204]

This is a fun little powerhouse.

[picturearchive.gunauction.com image 640x480]
THIS is a fun BIG powerhouse.

/A couple of hood rats were popping off a Hi-point .45 at the range, thought they were the shiat. Until I fired this. If you use Magtech ammo, it creates a wonderful fireball.

You get the same effect from the 2" barrel, only you have to watch yourself a little because your hand isn't too terribly far from the flame burst. Honestly, I walked into a range with mine once and folks were firing off shotguns that were quieter than the Rhino.

I've heard (second hand) of people having trouble with the Rhino. How do you like yours? Worth the price?


Just don't take it apart without taking pictures along the way. The grip is full of little moving parts.

www.gunsholstersandgear.com

Aside from the tendency of every reviewer to point out how strange it is, I haven't read a bad one.
 
2012-02-21 10:13:53 AM

FuturePastNow: Why the hell would you feel the need to take a gun to Wal-mart? Something was wrong with this man long before he shot a random stranger.


Maybe he was buying bullets and he wanted to make sure they fit properly...
 
2012-02-21 10:43:15 AM
A shame the gun did not hit the floor and shoot him in the ass or the nuts.....that would have been poetic justice.....Then again, if it grazed him as he went to stand up, the heat of the bullet would have cleaned him and taught him...got to be something inspirational there don't you think?
 
2012-02-21 10:55:04 AM

Joce678: FuturePastNow: Why the hell would you feel the need to take a gun to Wal-mart? Something was wrong with this man long before he shot a random stranger.

Maybe he was buying bullets and he wanted to make sure they fit properly...


1. The thing about carrying a gun is that you have to have it on you to carry it. It doesn't magically disappear when you go somewhere 'safe' (Though I wouldn't call the freakshow that is Walmart 'safe') and reappear when you are walking through the parking lot to your car. And if you carry a gun for protection, well then it doesn't do much good to not carry it, does it? When I carry a gun, I am not carrying a gun to Food Lion or to the mall I am carrying a gun because I am out. I'm not thinking I need a gun to safely see me through the hockey equipment aisle at Dick's, I am carrying it have protection throughout my day.
2. The random stranger wasn't shot. Just probably scared shiatless. Which is a good thing that he was in the bathroom.
3. The guy was an idiot who probably grabbed the bang switch. Most people can carry responsibly.
 
2012-02-21 11:05:37 AM

Bucky Katt: Stupid people shouldn't be allowed to carry guns.


I disagree, I'm pretty sure we should give stupid people more guns until there are far less stupid people.
 
2012-02-21 11:18:37 AM
Arizona is working awfully hard to get their own tag.
 
2012-02-21 11:25:04 AM
And this is why, while I am all for the right to keep and bear arms, I am not all for the right to carry them in public.
 
2012-02-21 11:56:43 AM

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: FTFA:Andrew Seals entered a bathroom stall about 1 p.m., at a Walmart at McKellips and Greenfield roads, and began to sit down when his Ruger .357-caliber Western-style revolver fell out of its holster and fired a round around, Mesa police Sgt. Ed Wessing said.

FTFY

Jesus, it's like they don't even have copy editors.


No, they had it right the first time.
 
2012-02-21 12:41:28 PM

jbuist: TwistedIvory:
Which brings me to another point: For all the yammering we hear about training requirements to get a carry permit not one state, to my knowledge, requires that you demonstrate the ability to take a crap while carrying a gun. For 99.9% of concealed carry holders (a stat pulled from my butt) this will be the most complicated and most dangerous thing you do. But we never certify for it. Everybody's worried about Joe Bob's ability to hit a target when he draws his pistol, which will probably never happen, but I guarantee he's going to have to poop some day with a pistol on his belt.


Hah, so true

/There's always the coat hook on the door
 
2012-02-21 12:44:48 PM
I'm gonna go with he attended the Plaxico NYC school of concealed carry.
 
2012-02-21 12:48:53 PM

ArcadianRefugee: TwistedIvory: This was a revolver. Revolvers generally don't have external safeties; instead, the common practice is to use a transfer bar. The transfer bar slides between the firing pin and the primer only when the trigger is in the fully-rearward position (i.e. shot fired); otherwise, in case of a drop/fumble/hammer slap, the firing pin will not contact the primer and the round will not discharge.

Revolvers are almost always carried in "Condition 1." It sounds like this one was of poor design.

Or, you know, you could leave one chamber empty and keep the hammer resting there so there is nothing to strike, should the gun be "bumped".

Pretty sure this used to be common practice by people who lived with/by the gun.


The legend/joke/old wive's tale was that you would carry enough money in the empty chamber to pay for your burial if you had to use your gun and things ended badly for yourself.
 
2012-02-21 12:50:44 PM

2wolves: cplares: Get a good holster. Something the properly holds your gun. Its not that hard. Don't buy the cheap uncle mikes crap.

My carry rig: Smith and Wesson M&P in a Tucker Answer

[lh3.googleusercontent.com image 402x227]

What's the question?


Leather or Kydex.....
 
2012-02-21 01:19:29 PM

MythDragon: SN1987a goes boom: MythDragon: SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn1.google.com image 247x204]

This is a fun little powerhouse.

[picturearchive.gunauction.com image 640x480]
THIS is a fun BIG powerhouse.

/A couple of hood rats were popping off a Hi-point .45 at the range, thought they were the shiat. Until I fired this. If you use Magtech ammo, it creates a wonderful fireball.

You get the same effect from the 2" barrel, only you have to watch yourself a little because your hand isn't too terribly far from the flame burst. Honestly, I walked into a range with mine once and folks were firing off shotguns that were quieter than the Rhino.

I've heard (second hand) of people having trouble with the Rhino. How do you like yours? Worth the price?


I think so. Its definitely a different feel than other revolvers, but I think that makes it more interesting.
 
2012-02-21 02:19:54 PM

jafiwam: MythDragon: SN1987a goes boom: MythDragon: SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn1.google.com image 247x204]

This is a fun little powerhouse.

[picturearchive.gunauction.com image 640x480]
THIS is a fun BIG powerhouse.

/A couple of hood rats were popping off a Hi-point .45 at the range, thought they were the shiat. Until I fired this. If you use Magtech ammo, it creates a wonderful fireball.

You get the same effect from the 2" barrel, only you have to watch yourself a little because your hand isn't too terribly far from the flame burst. Honestly, I walked into a range with mine once and folks were firing off shotguns that were quieter than the Rhino.

I've heard (second hand) of people having trouble with the Rhino. How do you like yours? Worth the price?

Just don't take it apart without taking pictures along the way. The grip is full of little moving parts.

[www.gunsholstersandgear.com image 525x484]

Aside from the tendency of every reviewer to point out how strange it is, I haven't read a bad one.


Wow that looks kinda like my watch. Neat.
 
2012-02-21 04:15:11 PM

SN1987a goes boom: MythDragon: SN1987a goes boom: MythDragon: SN1987a goes boom: [encrypted-tbn1.google.com image 247x204]

This is a fun little powerhouse.

[picturearchive.gunauction.com image 640x480]
THIS is a fun BIG powerhouse.

/A couple of hood rats were popping off a Hi-point .45 at the range, thought they were the shiat. Until I fired this. If you use Magtech ammo, it creates a wonderful fireball.

You get the same effect from the 2" barrel, only you have to watch yourself a little because your hand isn't too terribly far from the flame burst. Honestly, I walked into a range with mine once and folks were firing off shotguns that were quieter than the Rhino.

I've heard (second hand) of people having trouble with the Rhino. How do you like yours? Worth the price?

I think so. Its definitely a different feel than other revolvers, but I think that makes it more interesting.


Well then you'd probably like the Mateba. Avaliable (if you can find one, and stomach the price, that is) in sizes 3"-8" and in .357 .44 or .454.
Like the Rhino, it fires from the bottom cylinder resulting in less barrel rise. Unlike the Rhino, the Mateba is semi-auto. Every shot locks the hamemr back and rotates the cylinder.

I bought my about 4 years ago for $1400. They are now going for about $3500.
 
2012-02-24 03:31:50 AM

MythDragon: THIS is a fun BIG powerhouse.


Ohh... A Mateba. Me likey.

I'd love to get one if they weren't so damn expensive.
 
2012-02-24 03:58:40 AM

Fista-Phobia: Sure. Shot a friend's SCAR heavy with an ACOG. Good times. GIS for this configuration:


Pretty gun, but I'm automatically skeptical of any AR-based design.

I'm partial to Garand-based actions (have an M1-A and a Mini-30), but I wouldn't hesitate to trust my life to an AK.
 
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