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Degenerate Monkey		2012-02-20 05:38:22 PM

4 votes:

Also the full quote was

"Let me start from a simple premise that Oklahomans will understand: you cannot put a gun rack in a Volt."

That's pretty farking insulting to Oklahomans in general.

Englebert Slaptyback		2012-02-20 05:14:31 PM

4 votes:

Merkin Ball

You are obviously confusing the intelligent redneck for the unintelligent redneck.

Wait. Volt... Intelligent Redneck...

V=IR

MaudlinMutantMollusk		2012-02-20 04:57:07 PM

4 votes:

Handguns don't need racks

Le Bomb Suprize		2012-02-20 05:35:06 PM

3 votes:

Hold on people, I speak Newtese.

"You can't put a gun rack on a Volt" is translated to Tea Party speak as follows:

GM was bailed out by Obama.
GM sells Volts.
More Volts mean less gun racks.
Less gun racks mean fewer guns.
Obama is trying to take away your guns!

tennyson		2012-02-20 05:21:13 PM

3 votes:

It's bizarre and unsettling watching conservatives hate on an American technology just because Democrats like it.

Electric cars should be a win-win. An American company is at the forefront of the technology. It uses sources of energy America has in abundance (coal, gas, hydro, nuclear) and less on stuff we have to import from countries who hate us (oil).

Watching Republicans hate GM... what the hell? Do you really hate Democrats so much that anything they like must automatically be a bad thing? At least use the Nissan as an example, rather than the GM.

CapnBlues		2012-02-20 05:16:17 PM

3 votes:

I don't even own AH gun, let alone MANY guns, which would necessitate A GUN RACK.

phaseolus		2012-02-20 06:43:25 PM

2 votes:

KarmicDisaster: Audi, Subaru, Honda (and maybe others, I don't know) have "all wheel drive" electric cars and the future is probably individual wheel drive where each wheel has a motor (even better than 4WD or AWD).

Kinda like John Deere does with this diesel electric hybrid loader:

www.powersys.com

It's too big to turn into a true hybrid with batteries 'n shiat, but the one motor per wheel thing lends itself to mining equipment where it's nice to control each wheel's speed and torque individually and take advantage of DC motors' full torque at zero speed thing. They're still able to recoup some of the energy otherwise lost to braking and use it to power other systems on the loader, so fuel economy's improved somewhat, too.

teto85		2012-02-20 06:30:58 PM

2 votes:

Newt might be a pompous bag of used douche and santorum, but I do have to admit, he is a pathologically lying serial adulterer with messianic delusions of grandeur.

Twitch Boy		2012-02-20 06:15:19 PM

2 votes:

theMagni: Twitch Boy: My problem with the Volt is that it gets 0 MPG when it's spun into a 6 foot snow embankment.

I'm all for alternative fuels, electric, whatever. Just why do none of them have 4WD or AWD and some ride height? Especially considering diesel and electric make the most torque at the low end, which is exactly what you want on a 4WD.

That's a really good point. The torque curve on an electric motor is ideal for 4WD, so why aren't we seeing that?

From what I understand, with electric as you get into the larger vehicles you need to add too many more and larger batteries. They'd take up too much space and add too much extra weight to be practical. Also, if you put them at the wheels they add boatloads of unsprung weight. So it's not quite there yet, but getting there.

Still, an alternative fuel/hybrid/diesel/whatever medium 4-seater pickup (like an F-150) that got, say, 30 city and 35 highway? I'd buy that tomorrow. It would do basically everything you could ask for an automobile to do: equal/better fuel economy than most passenger cars, seat the family, highway, towing, off-road/inclement weather, safe in a crash, not TOO big for the city...it'd probably cost quite a bit, though. Get it around $50K and you might see some decent sales from the masses.

clambam		2012-02-20 06:14:29 PM

2 votes:

This was what Newt talked about last week: "Those who, you know, live in high-rise apartment buildings writing for fancy newspapers in the middle of town after they ride the metro, who don't understand that for most Americans the ability to buy a home, to have their own property, to have a sense of belonging is one of the greatest achievements of their life, and it makes them feel like they are good solid citizens."

The fact that Newt Gingrich thinks riding the subway is an act of elitism (as opposed to what it is, a social step below taking the bus) shows precisely how out-of-touch he is with regular people. Those newspaper writer types all own refrigerators too, I understand.

KarmicDisaster		2012-02-20 06:05:38 PM

2 votes:

theMagni		2012-02-20 05:56:11 PM

2 votes:

Doc Daneeka		2012-02-20 05:42:26 PM

2 votes:

IMO, it should be incredibly farking easy to sell energy-efficient vehicles as a patriotic thing.

Hey middle-American rednecks: You hate Islamic terrorism? You hate the fact that you tax dollars are going to maintaining a massive American military presence in the Middle East? You hate that we have to kowtow to backwards theocratic dictators like the Saudi royal family? Then support American energy independence by supporting alternative fuels research and fuel efficient vehicles.

I don't understand why energy efficiency and alternative fuels is not framed and emphasized as a national security issue (energy independence) all the time.

Fett56		2012-02-20 05:40:03 PM

2 votes:

So it's bad because it's better for the environment? That's the Republican angle now?

Ow! That was my feelings!		2012-02-20 05:39:13 PM

2 votes:

TehNacho: First of all, yes, you could certainly produce a gun rack for mounting in a Volt. The interior is surely quite cramped, but where there is a will, there is a way. I used to own a two door Yaris, and you could CRAM that interior with guns and ammunition. And as light as the car was, you could take on mild snow and dirt roads just fine. I remember taking trips to the range with three mosin nagant rifles, an AK, 2,000 rounds of mixed rifle and pistol ammunition, a passenger, range gear, and targets, with no issue at all.

Secondly; it's usually not a good idea to advertise that there is currently a weapon in your unsupervised vehicle by mounting a gun rack in the first place.

Truck gun racks are not intended for basic storage or transport. They are to allow a rancher/farmer quick access to a rifle if they came across a predator while doing their jobs.

Mikey1969		2012-02-20 05:38:28 PM

2 votes:

What a douche... At this point, he's not even attacking policies, he's basically insulting everyone in the country who might be interested in getting better gas mileage. Whether it's a Volt, some kind of hybrid, a natural gas vehicle, you name it, basically Newt just called you stupid. If you don't drive a full sized pickup, you must be un-American.

What a cock-knocker. Can we just fast forward to past the election? The Republicans aren't going to find a person who can both count to potato and manage a successful campaign, so can we just gift this one to Obama? They did it in '04 for Bush. I think the Dems learned from that one, you put a cardboard cutout up against an incumbent, the incumbent is gonna win.

Curious		2012-02-20 05:36:27 PM

2 votes:

tennyson: Watching Republicans hate GM... what the hell?

two key issues; 1) bailout, got to hate on that. 2) unions. it's all their fault somehow.

the farking republicans are drowning in far right koolaid and their leaders can't lead them. did you see ed gillespie on meet the press (new window) yesterday? he and paul ryan were just ladling out the koolaid by the bucket. to ryan's credit he actually seems to believe some of it. yeah i'm giving him credit for being dumb as a rock but honest about it. gillespie however can't really believe the majority of what he said since it's inconsistent with earlier republican positions.

SFSailor		2012-02-20 05:32:18 PM

2 votes:

Twitch Boy: I'm all for alternative fuels, electric, whatever. Just why do none of them have 4WD or AWD and some ride height? Especially considering diesel and electric make the most torque at the low end, which is exactly what you want on a 4WD.

Aren't there at least a couple hybrid SUVs/Pickups from Chevy, and maybe Toyota? And friends with one tell me the Ford Escape is nice, but its not AWD as a hybrid.

But, fundamentally, you have a very, very good point -- making high-fuel-consumption vehicles like SUVs and trucks more efficient is a -very- good idea. Taking a land barge from 12mpg to 20mpg does *much* more to reduce fuel consumption over the life of the truck than taking an econobox from 35 to 50.

/ I'd rather have the Leaf as a two-door roadster, myself (and would consider buying one if they sold one at a decent price), but electric/hybrid/Volt-y trucks would make a bigger impact on the environment than an electric Miata-replacement

Degenerate Monkey		2012-02-20 05:27:50 PM

2 votes:

Why in the Jesus Christ Hell would I want a gun rack in any compact car?

If I want to drive around with a gun rack, I'll buy a truck. And hopefully some day it'll be an electric truck.

Twitch Boy		2012-02-20 05:25:05 PM

2 votes:

My problem with the Volt is that it gets 0 MPG when it's spun into a 6 foot snow embankment.

I'm all for alternative fuels, electric, whatever. Just why do none of them have 4WD or AWD and some ride height? Especially considering diesel and electric make the most torque at the low end, which is exactly what you want on a 4WD.

I'd buy the Euro diesel Wrangler in a heartbeat if they ever released it in the US. Which won't happen, because our emissions laws are effed in the head.

Dr.Zom		2012-02-20 05:19:59 PM

2 votes:

"~~Let me start from a simple premise that Oklahomans will understand~~ You people are morons so let me dumb it down for you: you cannot put a gun rack in a Volt," Gingrich said.

KarmicDisaster		2012-02-20 05:18:25 PM

2 votes:

markie_farkie: muck4doo: Do people even use gun racks in trucks anymore? I haven't seen one of those in years, and I'm in TX.

Same here.. Standard cab pickups are less than 1% of sales, making the gun rack useless for a quick-grab varmint kill.

Better off keeping a 410 snakecharmer under the front seat if you really need a weapon while driving around.

At least in Wisconsin, which has some of the most liberal gun laws now (er, wait, are we allowed to say liberal? Conservative gun laws, but wait, they are liberal in that they have more freedom, uh.. anyway), you still have to have your long gun in a case in the car. So I don't know what good a gun rack would be. Although I have a gun case that is really nothing but a cloth sleeve, and that meets the requirements as far as I know. Plus, if your gun is just sitting there in sight someone might try to steal it.

Lumpmoose		2012-02-20 05:18:14 PM

2 votes:

Didn't conservatives used to love Chevrolet? The Volt is their signature attempt to modernize. Obama's ability to make Republicans hate American car companies is one of the better political trolls in recent memory.

FlashHarry		2012-02-20 04:30:40 PM

2 votes:

you'd think that when a pudgy millionaire wonk like newt says shiat like that, your average redneck would smell a rat straight away. sadly, i'm guessing they bought it hook, line and sinker.

dittybopper		2012-02-21 12:08:59 PM

1 votes:

Hickory-smoked: dittybopper: heinekenftw:
But that ruins the Obama Will Take our Guns polices. I mean here's a list of all the gun control laws he's put in place:

Hell, we just took him at his word:

Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent. - Change.gov Urban Policy Agenda page.

It's not our fault it turned out to be an empty campaign promise.

I read that statement twice, I don't see anything about taking guns from law-abiding citizens or forcing anyone into an electric car.

Maybe it wasn't so much of an empty campaign promise on his part as a delusional paranoid complex on yours.

I'll break it down for you:

Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade.

The Tiahrt Amendment doesn't prevent traces of guns for bona-fide criminal investigations. It prevents the data on gun traces from being released to anyone other than law enforcement or prosecutors, you know, the people actually responsible for enforcing the law. It does prevent them from being used in civil suits, which was a back-door way of trying to put gun manufacturers out of business after gun control legislation stalled in the 1990's.

Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals.

Like what? Did you support the 'commonsense measures that respect Fourth Amendment rights of citizens, while identifying terrorist activity' known as the Patriot Act? Do you not see how loaded that kind of phrasing can be?

They support closing the gun show loophole

There is no gun show loophole. The exact same federal and state laws apply inside a gun show as outside. Period.

and making guns in this country childproof.

This one is pretty scary. Especially when you consider that in 2007 there were only 51 accidental firearms deaths of children age 12 and under (source: CDC WISQARS Injury Mortality Reports), and some of those were undoubtedly due to careless handling by an adult. To put it in perspective, that same year and age group, there were 63 bicycle related deaths.

So we can see that it's not a serious problem from a health perspective because the odds are literally less than 1 in a million (51 in a population of 53 million).

So how would you make them childproof enough that a 10 year old couldn't operate one, but a slightly built adult female could?

They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.

This was the big one that got people nervous. The AWB was a massive failure, yet he wanted to reenact it, and make it permanent. That means certain things would be unavailable: New standard capacity magazines, new guns with certain cosmetic features that don't effect their actual function, etc. One gun with certain features would be OK because it was grandfathered, but an *IDENTICAL* gun would be illegal because it was manufactured after a certain date.

Maybe those things sound reasonable to you, because they don't really effect you. That doesn't mean they make sense, or that they are a good idea.

I mean, Obama used racist code to allay the fears of white sportsmen ("what works in Chicago might not work in Cheyenne"), but it was plain that he felt it necessary to at least make noises like he was going to do something on the gun control front, hence the statement I quoted. Of course, for his first term, he'd have been stupid to actually go through with it. Politically, he has nothing to gain from pushing for more gun control: He won't gain any votes by pushing for it, and he stands to lose some if he pushes for it (mainly blue collar Democrats). That's why it wasn't an issue that they raised in the campaign. How that will play out if he wins a second term, and thus doesn't have to worry about reelection, remains to be seen.

DarwiOdrade		2012-02-21 12:55:39 AM

1 votes:

Yes, you can. (new window)

KarmicDisaster		2012-02-21 12:29:03 AM

1 votes:

Dwight_Yeast: KarmicDisaster: WELL YOU CAN"T PUT A GUN RACK ON A MOON BUGGY!

You can. The problem is the results you get when you fire a gun on the Moon.

Should work OK, unless you get some Moon Dust in it. If you were worried about the bullet circling around and killing you, you would have to fire it at 5500 fps, not too many guns standard could make that, but the bullet sure could go a long way and probably hit someone on MoonBase Newt One by accident.

Dwight_Yeast		2012-02-21 12:17:26 AM

1 votes:

KarmicDisaster: WELL YOU CAN"T PUT A GUN RACK ON A MOON BUGGY!

You can. The problem is the results you get when you fire a gun on the Moon.

cryinoutloud		2012-02-21 12:05:45 AM

1 votes:

thamike: It's almost as if he's implying Okies cling to their guns or something.

And then adds that none of them are smart enough to desire good gas mileage, either.

heinekenftw		2012-02-20 10:54:28 PM

1 votes:

12349876: Twitch Boy: My problem with the Volt is that it gets 0 MPG when it's spun into a 6 foot snow embankment.

Most non-Alaskans don't have to worry about that.

Aside from this years winter, most New Englanders have to worry about snow too. Maybe not six feet, but even six inches can get hairy.

Hell I lost control of my subaru outback two months ago due to a patch of ice on a sunny day with hardly any snow on the ground, long after the plows had done their job. It was barely freezing too.

FuturePastNow		2012-02-20 10:41:50 PM

1 votes:

Twitch Boy: My problem with the Volt is that it gets 0 MPG when it's spun into a 6 foot snow embankment.

I'm all for alternative fuels, electric, whatever. Just why do none of them have 4WD or AWD and some ride height? Especially considering diesel and electric make the most torque at the low end, which is exactly what you want on a 4WD.

I'd buy the Euro diesel Wrangler in a heartbeat if they ever released it in the US. Which won't happen, because our emissions laws are effed in the head.

4WD isn't going to do a damn thing to keep you out of a ditch in snowy weather. When all four wheels are on ice, it doesn't matter at all how many of them you're spinning.

Gunny Walker		2012-02-20 10:08:32 PM

1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Handguns don't need racks

No, but occasionally it's nice when they show up together.

quatchi		2012-02-20 09:41:03 PM

1 votes:

LectertheChef: Someone should tell Newt to try Google.

Gun rack in a Volt. (new window)

Nice find.

But, of course, Newt's soundbites aren't about making sense. They are about reflexively tossing out the red meat these teatards love to chew on. In this case Newt got off a crack that at once confirmed his NRA cred and backhanded environmentalism all in one nine word bumper sticker sound bite. This actually helps convince RWers that he is "the smart one". Reading the headline instantly put me in mind of an old quote from the Game On episode of West Wing.

There it is. That's the ten word answer my staff's been looking for for two weeks. There it is. Ten-word answers can kill you in political campaigns. They're the tip of the sword. Here's my question: What are the next ten words of your answer? Your taxes are too high? So are mine. Give me the next ten words. How are we going to do it? Give me ten after that, I'll drop out of the race right now. Every once in a while... every once in a while, there's a day with an absolute right and an absolute wrong, but those days almost always include body counts. Other than that, there aren't very many unnuanced moments in leading a country that's way too big for ten words. I'm the President of the United States, not the President of the people who agree with me. And by the way, if the left has a problem with that, they should vote for somebody else.

dittybopper		2012-02-20 09:00:45 PM

1 votes:

Quasar: Wow, that's hilariously condescending.

"Let me start from a simple premise that Oklahomans will understand: you cannot put a gun rack in a Volt," Gingrich said.

Why stop there? "BLACK MAN BAD. ME GOOD."

It's no worse than "I know that what works in Chicago may not work in Cheyenne," You know who said that, right?

For the record, Chicago is 37% Black, and Cheyenne is 2.8% Black.

Paul Baumer		2012-02-20 08:47:13 PM

1 votes:

Late to the thread, but as no one else seems to have pointed it out - this is coming from the guy who wants moon colonies. How can this not be interpreted as rank condescending pandering by even the dullest observer? Jesus.

Gyrfalcon		2012-02-20 08:31:13 PM

1 votes:

Bloody William: Own a gun rack and enough guns to fill 'er up, you're a real American catered to by an entire political party.

Own a closet full of swords, you're a "nerdy freak" who "coworkers think will stab them."

I don't get it.

Own a closet full of coworkers, and you're really in trouble.

Sabyen91		2012-02-20 08:30:36 PM

1 votes:

Newt can't pull of redneck. It is almost as ridiculous and Romney trying to pull of human.

Bloody William		2012-02-20 08:12:59 PM

1 votes:

Own a gun rack and enough guns to fill 'er up, you're a real American catered to by an entire political party.

Own a closet full of swords, you're a "nerdy freak" who "coworkers think will stab them."

I don't get it.

LectertheChef		2012-02-20 08:11:09 PM

1 votes:

Someone should tell Newt to try Google.

Gun rack in a Volt. (new window)

undflickertail		2012-02-20 08:04:16 PM

1 votes:

Doc Daneeka: IMO, it should be incredibly farking easy to sell energy-efficient vehicles as a patriotic thing.

Hey middle-American rednecks: You hate Islamic terrorism? You hate the fact that you tax dollars are going to maintaining a massive American military presence in the Middle East? You hate that we have to kowtow to backwards theocratic dictators like the Saudi royal family? Then support American energy independence by supporting alternative fuels research and fuel efficient vehicles.

I don't understand why energy efficiency and alternative fuels is not framed and emphasized as a national security issue (energy independence) all the time.
Three words: Carter, Hostages, Iran.

mcsmiley		2012-02-20 07:29:08 PM

1 votes:

Well, you could go the whole shebang and go with an all electric SUV that should be be coming out next year. http://www.teslamotors.com/modelx Note that it is an american company. iIt has a 300 mile range on the top end, and accelerates faster than a 911. 0-60 in 4.4 seconds. and it's all wheel drive to boot.

blorpenster		2012-02-20 07:26:27 PM

1 votes:

"Let me start from a simple premise that Oklahomans will understand: you cannot put a gun rack in a Volt," Gingrich said.

lol. Not sure if meant to be an insult or just another insensitive comment by Newt. He makes them sound like drooling, bible-thumping, gun-crazy simpletons.....

/ ;)

Animatronik		2012-02-20 07:11:26 PM

1 votes:

Mimic_Octopus: Animatronik: And she yells down "I ain't cosigning the note on an ee-lectric car from government

now that there is a funny close to teh subthread. good one.

To be honest, I probably wouldnt buy a volt either, but I hope it works out for GM.

I seriously considered the prius until someone in a movie called it a vagina, and then I realized that I might need something else more.

Mimic_Octopus		2012-02-20 07:06:45 PM

1 votes:

Animatronik: And she yells down "I ain't cosigning the note on an ee-lectric car from government

now that there is a funny close to teh subthread. good one.

dumbobruni		2012-02-20 07:01:47 PM

1 votes:

phaseolus: KarmicDisaster: Audi, Subaru, Honda (and maybe others, I don't know) have "all wheel drive" electric cars and the future is probably individual wheel drive where each wheel has a motor (even better than 4WD or AWD).

Kinda like John Deere does with this diesel electric hybrid loader:

[www.powersys.com image 400x300]

It's too big to turn into a true hybrid with batteries 'n shiat, but the one motor per wheel thing lends itself to mining equipment where it's nice to control each wheel's speed and torque individually and take advantage of DC motors' full torque at zero speed thing. They're still able to recoup some of the energy otherwise lost to braking and use it to power other systems on the loader, so fuel economy's improved somewhat, too.

all wheel drive diesel hybrids are already in production...in France. diesel engine powers the front wheels, electric motor powers the rear wheels.

farking cheese eating surrender monkeys!

Link (new window)

Animatronik		2012-02-20 06:58:33 PM

1 votes:

Mimic_Octopus: Animatronik: Mimic_Octopus: jake3988: ...

So, now I'm probably gonna get what I originally wanted to get, a honda fit, just to piss her off.

I dont get it. why the heck are you discussing your car selection with your mother ? Are you in one of those just off the boat families where like 4 generations live under the same roof ? If i get a new car my mom doesnt know about it until i show up for dinner afew weeks down the road. /3rd generation...

Do you really need to ask these questions of a farker?

oh. heh, yeah, you just yell up the stairwell to the kitchen : "hey ma, what do you think of the Volt ?!?!"

And she yells down "I ain't cosigning the note on an ee-lectric car from government motors!"

And so you go back to your cheeto-stained keyboard and rail against mommies favorite candidate.

Gyrfalcon		2012-02-20 06:52:47 PM

1 votes:

NewportBarGuy: Kumana Wanalaia: Gun rack? We don't need no stinking gun rack.

You're why I love America. God bless you.

Where can I get one of these?

Merkin Ball		2012-02-20 06:48:03 PM

1 votes:

Englebert Slaptyback: Merkin Ball

You are obviously confusing the intelligent redneck for the unintelligent redneck.

Wait. Volt... Intelligent Redneck...

V=IR

You win!

/Love me some EE jokes

Gyrfalcon		2012-02-20 06:44:21 PM

1 votes:

maniacbastard		2012-02-20 06:40:45 PM

1 votes:

There are lots of ways to put a gun rack in a sedan. Cops drive sedans asshole.

www.discountramps.com

Newt is a friggin tubby clown

Guntram Shatterhand		2012-02-20 06:40:31 PM

1 votes:

positronica: In such a situation, Gingrich could put Romney over the top if he threw the support of his delegates in Romney's direction. In exchange he could demand a cabinet level position or something. It's not like Newt has a senate or congressman position to fall back on. If he drops out, he has to go back to the private sector. As long as a brokered convention is a possibility, it means there's also a possibility for him to get his way back into government. Even if he has to start running his campaign on the cheap, I don't see him dropping outright.

Plus, at this point, Newt has nothing left to lose. He was already on the outs with the Party before this, and his continued influence isn't really doing much. The way he's dropping, he has to hope that Santorum flares out soon and that Gingrich can take advantage of it. At this point, there are no other people for the social conservative Base to go to unless they start looking outside of the primary pool. Which, sadly, may very well happen.

It makes you wonder how this will play out. I doubt Romney's backers are going to go for the figurehead model that sunk the party from 2000-2008, and I doubt they're going to empowered a similar idiot to become another Palin to deal with. Right now, I imagine the big money has something on both Gingrich and Santorum that they will pull out in a few months if Romney hasn't been selected.

That said, Gingrich is so desperate that it's funny as hell. He has so much contempt for his own voter base that he's assuming they're all stupid rednecks. I'm sure that might rile a few people into staying home out of spite.

Kumana Wanalaia		2012-02-20 06:34:19 PM

1 votes:

Gun rack? We don't need no stinking gun rack.

Mimic_Octopus		2012-02-20 06:30:14 PM

1 votes:

jake3988: ...

So, now I'm probably gonna get what I originally wanted to get, a honda fit, just to piss her off.

I dont get it. why the heck are you discussing your car selection with your mother ? Are you in one of those just off the boat families where like 4 generations live under the same roof ? If i get a new car my mom doesnt know about it until i show up for dinner afew weeks down the road. /3rd generation...

watson.t.hamster		2012-02-20 06:26:23 PM

1 votes:

Twitch Boy: My problem with the Volt is that it gets 0 MPG when it's spun into a 6 foot snow embankment.

I'm all for alternative fuels, electric, whatever. Just why do none of them have 4WD or AWD and some ride height? Especially considering diesel and electric make the most torque at the low end, which is exactly what you want on a 4WD.

I'd buy the Euro diesel Wrangler in a heartbeat if they ever released it in the US. Which won't happen, because our emissions laws are effed in the head.

The market for electric cars in the US is small enough. And pretty much limited to the major cities.

mander		2012-02-20 06:22:10 PM

1 votes:

DeltaPunch: "Let me start from a simple premise that you simple Oklahomans will understand: Obama want takie-takie your guns." Gingrich said.

"Let me start from a simple premise that you ignorant Oklahomans will understand: you can't hang trucknutz on a Volt." Gingrich said.

"Let me start from a simple premise that even you uneducated Oklahomans will understand: you can't play Billie Ray Cyrus tapes in a Volt." Gingrich said.

"Let me start from a simple premise that even you backwater, sister-f*cking, toothless, shoe-sh*tting, drunk-ass, chicken-f*cking, dumbass Oklahomans will understand: scary black man go boogah boogah!" Gingrich said.

Ladies and gentlemen, your thread winner

DeltaPunch		2012-02-20 06:17:57 PM

1 votes:

"Let me start from a simple premise that you simple Oklahomans will understand: Obama want takie-takie your guns." Gingrich said.

"Let me start from a simple premise that you ignorant Oklahomans will understand: you can't hang trucknutz on a Volt." Gingrich said.

"Let me start from a simple premise that even you uneducated Oklahomans will understand: you can't play Billie Ray Cyrus tapes in a Volt." Gingrich said.

"Let me start from a simple premise that even you backwater, sister-f*cking, toothless, shoe-sh*tting, drunk-ass, chicken-f*cking, dumbass Oklahomans will understand: scary black man go boogah boogah!" Gingrich said.

The_Sponge		2012-02-20 06:16:39 PM

1 votes:

Lumpmoose: The Volt is their signature attempt to modernize.

Yes, and that attempt churned out a bunch of lemons.

thamike		2012-02-20 06:07:51 PM

1 votes:

rockradio1: [www.entertainmentworlds.com image 160x160]

Everytime a lib says the word "teabagger", the Chairman winks and smiles.

"Everytime?"

/spam account is spammy

markie_farkie		2012-02-20 06:07:09 PM

1 votes:

Fark It: God, his wife is so farking creepy.

You ain't kidding...

media.npr.org

More Here: "The hair sends a very grown-up signal. It's very fixed. It's very traditional," Cottle tells guest host of weekends on All Things Considered Mary Louise Kelly. "But on the other hand, we are talking about a woman who's best known as the 'other woman.' She's not his second wife. She's his third wife and the wife he spent six years having an affair with before they actually got together. So it's very important for the Gingriches to convey the sense of traditional family life." (new window)

dumbobruni		2012-02-20 06:06:18 PM

1 votes:

Twitch Boy: My problem with the Volt is that it gets 0 MPG when it's spun into a 6 foot snow embankment.

I'm all for alternative fuels, electric, whatever. Just why do none of them have 4WD or AWD and some ride height? Especially considering diesel and electric make the most torque at the low end, which is exactly what you want on a 4WD.

I'd buy the Euro diesel Wrangler in a heartbeat if they ever released it in the US. Which won't happen, because our emissions laws are effed in the head.

ford escape, toyota highlander, and lexus rx300 have hybrid options; porsche cayenne will soon.

there was a jeep grand cherokee diesel available a couple of years ago. trouble was, no one bought it.

thamike		2012-02-20 06:05:16 PM

1 votes:

It's almost as if he's implying Okies cling to their guns or something.

Fark It		2012-02-20 06:02:54 PM

1 votes:

AntiNerd: Why does the word psychopath come to mind?

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/hotlinked

God, his wife is so farking creepy.

AntiNerd		2012-02-20 05:58:56 PM

1 votes:

Why does the word psychopath come to mind?

25.media.tumblr.com

/hotlinked

gibbon1		2012-02-20 05:58:48 PM

1 votes:

macross87: Who drives a Volt?

Someone who's using it to do short errands over well maintained roads?

I have to say as an engineer the butthurt I see over electric and hybrid cars is mystifying. They're both technological marvels. Maybe it's just that a 60's era gas hog was simple enough for the average redneck to comprehend. (I vaguely remember similar butthurt over fuel injection and O2 sensors so maybe they'll get over it.)

Sticky Hands		2012-02-20 05:57:47 PM

1 votes:

Why hate GM? Because Pontiac GTO! That's why!

syrynxx		2012-02-20 05:57:14 PM

1 votes:

Doc Daneeka: I don't understand why energy efficiency and alternative fuels is not framed and emphasized as a national security issue (energy independence) all the time.

Great point. A car which runs on Middle-East oil or a car which runs on American coal/nuclear electricity. Ah, but politics is all about the spin.

LabGrrl		2012-02-20 05:56:59 PM

1 votes:

Wow. Gun rack on a volt would be awesome. Then I could afford to visit the inlaws AND bag a few turkeys while it charged.

Fark It		2012-02-20 05:55:34 PM

1 votes:

Tiny cars have no problem transporting long guns

/yes, Tennessee isn't Oklahoma
//yes, it's a Smart Car, not a Volt

wellreadneck		2012-02-20 05:49:47 PM

1 votes:

Degenerate Monkey: Why in the Jesus Christ Hell would I want a gun rack in any compact car?

If I want to drive around with a gun rack, I'll buy a truck. And hopefully some day it'll be an electric truck.

I"ll wait until they make a model with a back-up generator fueled by ambeer, piss and coonhound shiat.

jake3988		2012-02-20 05:49:35 PM

1 votes:

umpmoose * * Smartest * * Funniest * [ ] Smartest [ ] Funniest 2012-02-20 05:18:14 PM Didn't conservatives used to love Chevrolet? The Volt is their signature attempt to modernize. Obama's ability to make Republicans hate American car companies is one of the better political trolls in recent memory.
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Not anymore, with the bailout, all GM brands are HATED by conservatives. The only company they will buy from (or at least claim to) now is Ford. That's it.

I told my mother (who, like most of the rest of my family is insanely conservative) that I was thinking of buying a Cruze, as they seem pretty good and are made like 15 miles from where I grew up/where she lives. I figured she might be really happy I was considering an 'american' car. Nope. 'Screw chevy. Buy ford, they didn't get bailed out!'.

So, now I'm probably gonna get what I originally wanted to get, a honda fit, just to piss her off.

instantwin		2012-02-20 05:46:50 PM

1 votes:

"You cannot put a ~~gun~~ rack in a Volt"

Not true, a smaller model will fit:

s16.postimage.org

theorellior		2012-02-20 05:42:21 PM

1 votes:

FlashHarry: i was more impressed by the ad on the page. poor rick perry.

I forgot to reply to this: no, fark Rick Perry. Dumbass deserves to choke on all of those unsold T-shirts.

MrEricSir		2012-02-20 05:42:10 PM

1 votes:

culebra: Well how the hell am I supposed to go skeet surfin'?

Unfortunately, even the largest surfboard sinks once Val Kilmer gets on it these days.

MrEricSir		2012-02-20 05:40:56 PM

1 votes:

I'm guessing there are more Volt owners than Newt voters.

AcneVulgaris		2012-02-20 05:39:18 PM

1 votes:

Lumpmoose: Didn't conservatives used to love Chevrolet? The Volt is their signature attempt to modernize. Obama's ability to make Republicans hate American car companies is one of the better political trolls in recent memory.

Electric vehicles deny you the ability to conspicuously burn fossil fuel, and thereby deny global warming and the finite nature of fossil fuels.

culebra		2012-02-20 05:35:50 PM

1 votes:

Well how the hell am I supposed to go skeet surfin'?

beefoe		2012-02-20 05:33:59 PM

1 votes:

tennyson: Watching Republicans hate GM... what the hell? Do you really hate Democrats so much that anything they like must automatically be a bad thing? At least use the Nissan as an example, rather than the G

Republicans have pretty much always hated the car companies, well at least from the 1960's on. They represent weak management and unconstrained unions. in 1980 Carter bailed out Chrysler and it was an issue that Reagan used against him. The argument at the time was that each job saved cost consumers $100K. Then again Reagan did support "voluntary" export restraints in 1981 which meant that good gas mileage, well built Japanese cars became much more expensive for a couple years.

TehNacho		2012-02-20 05:32:26 PM

1 votes:

First of all, yes, you could certainly produce a gun rack for mounting in a Volt. The interior is surely quite cramped, but where there is a will, there is a way. I used to own a two door Yaris, and you could CRAM that interior with guns and ammunition. And as light as the car was, you could take on mild snow and dirt roads just fine. I remember taking trips to the range with three mosin nagant rifles, an AK, 2,000 rounds of mixed rifle and pistol ammunition, a passenger, range gear, and targets, with no issue at all.

Secondly; it's usually not a good idea to advertise that there is currently a weapon in your unsupervised vehicle by mounting a gun rack in the first place.

Rann Xerox		2012-02-20 05:31:31 PM

1 votes:

FlashHarry: you'd think that when a pudgy millionaire wonk like newt says shiat like that, your average redneck would smell a rat straight away. sadly, i'm guessing they bought it hook, line and sinker.

On dry land.

ringersol		2012-02-20 05:29:32 PM

1 votes:

macross87: "Who drives a Volt?"

No-one. Trick is:
1. It's fashionable to hate on GM right now; it brings the 'evil bailout' into mind.
2. "Prius" is a minefield. Pronounce it wrong and you're an idiot. Pronounce it right and the intended audience *knows* you're a rat.

Sticky Hands		2012-02-20 05:28:58 PM

1 votes:

Electric cars can kick a lot of ass
i42.tinypic.com

Quasar		2012-02-20 05:27:49 PM

1 votes:

Ignore feature is such a lovely thing sometimes.

Ow! That was my feelings!		2012-02-20 05:27:24 PM

1 votes:

Since most trucks today are extended cab/quad cab, the old school gun racks would be pointless. It is now 'ceiling' racks.

www.outofsightgunracks.com

Thisbymaster		2012-02-20 05:24:52 PM

1 votes:

Wait where have a I heard this before.I know

"What did you expect? "Welcome, sonny"? "Make yourself at home"? "Marry my daughter"? You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons."

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7wolf		2012-02-20 05:24:47 PM

1 votes:

Why would you want a gun rack on a volt? It would get stuck in the mud going anyplace worthy of a gun rack, unless you just felt like showing it off at a shooting range or something.

KrispyKritter		2012-02-20 05:24:24 PM

1 votes:

hotlink

Englebert Slaptyback		2012-02-20 05:24:11 PM

1 votes:

Antidamascus

It's the reverse of "stupid people think a smart person sounds like this".

But mention "gun rack", "banjo", or "NASCAR" and people will probably picture a certain distinct type of person for each one.

doyner		2012-02-20 05:23:40 PM

1 votes:

JasonOfOrillia: Englebert Slaptyback: Merkin Ball

You are obviously confusing the intelligent redneck for the unintelligent redneck.

Wait. Volt... Intelligent Redneck...

V=IR

Nicely done.

It would appear that the Volt's use as political fodder is equal to the current derp levels multiplied by the GOP's resistance to change.

NewportBarGuy		2012-02-20 05:21:41 PM

1 votes:

In MY America, some guy in the Shenandoah Valley will mount quad 50s to the f*cking thing and go turkey shooting.

How dare you question my faith in America, Newtbag!

SFSailor		2012-02-20 05:21:17 PM

1 votes:

ghare: Isn't an intelligent redneck just "country?"

Naw; intelligence and redneckitude are orthogonal. I've known some pretty smart rednecks with as many yard couches as "project" trucks that don't run. And I've -certainly- known some cosmopolitan, tux-owning, symphony-attending morans.

I'm trying to figure out if the bigger insult is the assumption that conservative, Newt supportin' types would automatically want a gun rack (and that they'd have no interest in Volts and, thus, ironically?, -conserving-), or that Volt owners would not have any interest in guns....

Diogenes		2012-02-20 05:19:41 PM

1 votes:

Newt Gingrich hates American ingenuity.

Chinchillazilla		2012-02-20 05:19:03 PM

1 votes:

muck4doo: Do people even use gun racks in trucks anymore? I haven't seen one of those in years, and I'm in TX.

See them from time to time in Kentucky, although I can't remember the last time I saw an actual gun in one.

Arkanaut		2012-02-20 05:14:12 PM

1 votes:

You can't hug children with nuclear arms!

markie_farkie		2012-02-20 05:10:25 PM

1 votes:

muck4doo: Do people even use gun racks in trucks anymore? I haven't seen one of those in years, and I'm in TX.

Same here.. Standard cab pickups are less than 1% of sales, making the gun rack useless for a quick-grab varmint kill.

Better off keeping a 410 snakecharmer under the front seat if you really need a weapon while driving around.

SilentStrider		2012-02-20 05:05:10 PM

1 votes:

So who's going to be the first person to say "Challenge Accepted"?

Osomatic		2012-02-20 04:57:45 PM

1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Merkin Ball: FlashHarry: you'd think that when a pudgy millionaire wonk like newt says shiat like that, your average redneck would smell a rat straight away. sadly, i'm guessing they bought it hook, line and sinker.

You are obviously confusing the intelligent redneck for the unintelligent redneck.

Both of whom prefer gun racks to Volts. But I do wonder - why cant you put a gun rack in a Volt?

Actually I think you could - most of these look like they'd work: http://www.tufloc.com/tufloc-vehicle-weapon-racks.html

Of course, then you're not displaying your guns on the back of your pickup truck and all, which for the average Newt fan is the important part.

muck4doo		2012-02-20 04:56:20 PM

1 votes:

Do people even use gun racks in trucks anymore? I haven't seen one of those in years, and I'm in TX.

Benevolent Misanthrope		2012-02-20 04:43:20 PM

1 votes:

Merkin Ball: FlashHarry: you'd think that when a pudgy millionaire wonk like newt says shiat like that, your average redneck would smell a rat straight away. sadly, i'm guessing they bought it hook, line and sinker.

You are obviously confusing the intelligent redneck for the unintelligent redneck.

Both of whom prefer gun racks to Volts. But I do wonder - why cant you put a gun rack in a Volt?

Merkin Ball		2012-02-20 04:40:47 PM

1 votes:

jbuist		2012-02-20 04:39:20 PM

1 votes:

New, this is America. Yes we can.

Quasar		2012-02-20 04:38:21 PM

1 votes:

Wow, that's hilariously condescending.

"Let me start from a simple premise that Oklahomans will understand: you cannot put a gun rack in a Volt," Gingrich said.

Why stop there? "BLACK MAN BAD. ME GOOD."