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2012-02-20 07:01:22 PM

lilplatinum: RexTalionis: The First Four Katy Perry Albums: These aren't the guys who built the railroads.

No, of course not. Those guys weren't allowed to bring women to the US due to exclusion acts and died mostly as bachelor men, or were lynched and murdered by anti-Chinese mobs, or driven back to China from a country hostile to them.

You need to watch more movies..


But Netflix has nothing interesting on, so I'm just watching some documentary series on the Biblical history of the Israelites.
 
2012-02-20 07:02:37 PM

zippolight2002: And furthermore, guess what race's jokes are the MOST acceptable? White race jokes. But you don't see the majority of white's up in arms against Chris Rock or any other black comedians when they do white jokes on TV.


Louis CK pretty much explains why this is:

". If you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole. It is great and I'm a man. How many advantages can one person have? I'm a white man, you can't even hurt my feelings. What can you really call a white man that really digs deep? Hey cracker ... oh ruined my day. Boy shouldn't have called me a cracker, bringing me back to owning land and people what a drag."
 
2012-02-20 07:03:25 PM

downtownkid: jutm543: The worst part is that the headline writer is married to an Asian woman (so I'm going out on a limb and declaring him not racist), and got fired because OTHER PEOPLE are big freaking racists.


Uh, no. Read the stories again and get back to us, Sparky. It wasn't the writer of the headline who is married to an Asian woman, nor would any enlightened people consider that a free pass anyway. Try to keep up here, the adults are talking.


I didn't read this article, I read earlier articles today and remembered that someone was married to an Asian woman. My post still holds water, simply replace the words "headline writer" and "fired" with "anchor" and "suspended", respectively. Way to put words into my mouth, too, because my point was totally that you get to make slanty-eyes jokes as long as you take a chinawoman down to the justice of the peace, hurr durr!
 
2012-02-20 07:08:16 PM

dittybopper: ongbok: Newsflash. People don't like racism or to be associated with it.

...even when it doesn't exist. So they overreact.


Piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. Try using the term "chink in the armor" IRL when addressing an East Asian person right beside you, and tell me you won't feel like a douche. You weren't being racist. But you would still feel stupid using it. So you'd either be a jackass, a racist, or someone who has absolutely no sense of what it takes to function in society.

I am tired of white people telling entire peoples what they should be or not be offended by. The same mouth-breathers who wonder why black people can say N word and others can't. Is not saying chink that big of a burden to white people? It reminds me of that Colbert sketch about Glenn Beck complaining how he can't live anymore because there is a tax on soda. I am sure you'll live.
 
2012-02-20 07:09:26 PM

lilplatinum: zippolight2002: And furthermore, guess what race's jokes are the MOST acceptable? White race jokes. But you don't see the majority of white's up in arms against Chris Rock or any other black comedians when they do white jokes on TV.

Louis CK pretty much explains why this is:

". If you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole. It is great and I'm a man. How many advantages can one person have? I'm a white man, you can't even hurt my feelings. What can you really call a white man that really digs deep? Hey cracker ... oh ruined my day. Boy shouldn't have called me a cracker, bringing me back to owning land and people what a drag."


So....if a black person grew up in a successful home and now is a multi-millionare, I can call him the "n" word? He's got more opportunities than the majority of white people in this country at that point.
 
2012-02-20 07:11:26 PM

zippolight2002: zippolight2002: FireZs: zippolight2002:
If those jokes offend you, I highly suggest you never...ever... go to 4chan.org /b

Neither is ok. But do you see the problem? Those jokes ARE racist. But somehow you don't think so.That's what I mean when I say that racism against Asians is more accepted.

What makes you think people that laugh at racist Asian jokes, don't also laugh at racist black jokes?

And furthermore, guess what race's jokes are the MOST acceptable? White race jokes. But you don't see the majority of white's up in arms against Chris Rock or any other black comedians when they do white jokes on TV.


Yeah, someone needs to read up on white privilege. And once again, that's still besides the point. How many threads involving white people have racist white joke image macros?
 
2012-02-20 07:12:41 PM
"My wife is Asian, would never intentionally say anything to disrespect her and that community,"

Dudes, why do people even say this? "I have black friends!"
 
2012-02-20 07:12:54 PM

zippolight2002: So....if a black person grew up in a successful home and now is a multi-millionare, I can call him the "n" word? He's got more opportunities than the majority of white people in this country at that point.


I'm pretty sure a black rich kid faces more racial discrimination in his life than some white trash trailer park kid.

The point of Louis CK (A comedian that you are taking a bit too seriously) made is that there is pretty much nothing offensive you can say about white people and the people (in this thread and elsewhere) who always act like being white is somehow a disadvantage in America need to get a farking reality check.
 
2012-02-20 07:14:10 PM

FireZs: Yeah, someone needs to read up on white privilege. And once again, that's still besides the point. How many threads involving white people have racist white joke image macros?


When there is actually a funny racist white joke maybe that will happen... I've yet to hear one and I consider myself a connoisseur of all sorts of humorous bigotry.
 
2012-02-20 07:14:34 PM

jutm543: downtownkid: jutm543: The worst part is that the headline writer is married to an Asian woman (so I'm going out on a limb and declaring him not racist), and got fired because OTHER PEOPLE are big freaking racists.


Uh, no. Read the stories again and get back to us, Sparky. It wasn't the writer of the headline who is married to an Asian woman, nor would any enlightened people consider that a free pass anyway. Try to keep up here, the adults are talking.

I didn't read this article, I read earlier articles today and remembered that someone was married to an Asian woman. My post still holds water, simply replace the words "headline writer" and "fired" with "anchor" and "suspended", respectively. Way to put words into my mouth, too, because my point was totally that you get to make slanty-eyes jokes as long as you take a chinawoman down to the justice of the peace, hurr durr!



So, you still don't get it? At least you were cool about admitting your ignorance. That's nice.
 
2012-02-20 07:15:27 PM

HoityToity: Class act.

Tebow of the NBA.


Seriously?

That is so disingenuous I can't hardly stand it.

Wait, yer serious?

Wait, wut?

*cue fruit*

P.S. Try educated, D.A.
 
2012-02-20 07:17:26 PM

Indubitably: HoityToity: Class act.

Tebow of the NBA.

Seriously?

That is so disingenuous I can't hardly stand it.

Wait, yer serious?

Wait, wut?

*cue fruit*

P.S. Try educated, D.A.


P.P.S. There's yer us and them in the postmodernist-socio-historical context. ;)(

P.P.P.S. Learn On!
 
2012-02-20 07:26:50 PM

zippolight2002: So....if a black person grew up in a successful home and now is a multi-millionare, I can call him the "n" word? He's got more opportunities than the majority of white people in this country at that point.


No. Because what you'd be saying is "you may be successful, but remember that once upon a time your people were property, and there are people like me in this country who would love to murder you and your family for not knowing your proper place." At least, that's what the rich black person you called the n-word would hear.
 
2012-02-20 07:30:58 PM
 
2012-02-20 07:39:42 PM
I thought everyone (especially middle-aged white guys) knew that subtle racism was only okay if you hide behind the internet. To think you could say that without it coming back to bite you is just insane.
 
2012-02-20 07:39:48 PM

FireZs: zippolight2002: So....if a black person grew up in a successful home and now is a multi-millionare, I can call him the "n" word? He's got more opportunities than the majority of white people in this country at that point.

No. Because what you'd be saying is "you may be successful, but remember that once upon a time your people were property, and there are people like me in this country who would love to murder you and your family for not knowing your proper place." At least, that's what the rich black person you called the n-word would hear.


You know people use the n word for different reasons. If you use the n word, it doesn't necessarily mean you want to murder someone because they "don't know they're place". There's a difference between being black and being the n word.
 
2012-02-20 07:43:33 PM

zippolight2002: You know people use the n word for different reasons. If you use the n word, it doesn't necessarily mean you want to murder someone because they "don't know they're place". There's a difference between being black and being the n word.


Well, I suggest you try it then, go to alpine NJ and call a rich black person the n-word. No matter how friendly you deliver it, that's how it's going to be taken. Remember, you specifically said "call him the n-word," not "discuss the usage and impact of the n-word in the 19th century."
 
2012-02-20 07:52:52 PM
Well, I for one thought it was hilarious.
 
2012-02-20 07:52:54 PM

FireZs: zippolight2002: You know people use the n word for different reasons. If you use the n word, it doesn't necessarily mean you want to murder someone because they "don't know they're place". There's a difference between being black and being the n word.

Well, I suggest you try it then, go to alpine NJ and call a rich black person the n-word. No matter how friendly you deliver it, that's how it's going to be taken. Remember, you specifically said "call him the n-word," not "discuss the usage and impact of the n-word in the 19th century."


Very true, but that's the problem. The definition hasn't changed over time like it should. As far as I'm concerned that word is reserved for those people that progress the black stereotype. The farking pants around the knees, acting 'thugish', even though they've never stepped foot inside of a real ghetto, blaring music all hours of the day because....hell even I don't know why they do it. Maybe I'm a bit more selective because I grew up right outside of Detroit and if you've never had to have a gun sitting in the passenger seat while driving through a town, you've never known a true ghetto and have no business trying to pretend like you're from one.
 
2012-02-20 07:55:33 PM
And I'm not really sure whats worse NOW. Being called out as a group of people that were property at one point but stood together and overcame tremendous obstacles, gain your rights and freedoms, and to get where you are today. Or the group of people that almost an entire race despises because of what you're ancestors did.
 
2012-02-20 07:55:48 PM

zippolight2002: The definition hasn't changed over time like it should. As far as I'm concerned that word is reserved for those people that progress the black stereotype.


Sorry, you don't get to be your own lexicographer. This ain't the USPTO.
 
2012-02-20 07:59:36 PM

zippolight2002: And I'm not really sure whats worse NOW. Being called out as a group of people that were property at one point but stood together and overcame tremendous obstacles, gain your rights and freedoms, and to get where you are today. Or the group of people that almost an entire race despises because of what you're ancestors did.


What's worse is a clueless guy who thinks that an entire race hates him and his people. It's not all about you.

/Seriously, is there anything whinier than somebody who loves to play the victim card like you're doing?
 
2012-02-20 08:00:47 PM

RexTalionis: zippolight2002: The definition hasn't changed over time like it should. As far as I'm concerned that word is reserved for those people that progress the black stereotype.

Sorry, you don't get to be your own lexicographer. This ain't the USPTO.


So then why does "chink in the armor" automatically throw out the actual definition of chink simply because it was used to describe someone's flaws who just so happened to also be asian? If you want to go by the book that's fine, but you can't have it both ways. .
 
2012-02-20 08:02:37 PM

zippolight2002: RexTalionis: zippolight2002: The definition hasn't changed over time like it should. As far as I'm concerned that word is reserved for those people that progress the black stereotype.

Sorry, you don't get to be your own lexicographer. This ain't the USPTO.

So then why does "chink in the armor" automatically throw out the actual definition of chink simply because it was used to describe someone's flaws who just so happened to also be asian? If you want to go by the book that's fine, but you can't have it both ways. .


Because words have multiple meanings, unlike your situation, where you'd prefer to substitute your own definition for the commonly-accepted one.

That's not too fine a distinction, is it?
 
2012-02-20 08:03:34 PM

lilplatinum: colon_pow: We need more people like you around to tell us what words we can use and how to use them.

No one is telling you what words you can use or how to use them, you are free to be racist as much as you want.

However when you are employed by a company to write headlines for the public, that company is perfectly within their rights to tell it's employee what words they can use and how to use them.


Well if "this company" is so worried about it, maybe they should hire an editor.
 
2012-02-20 08:03:52 PM

RexTalionis: zippolight2002: And I'm not really sure whats worse NOW. Being called out as a group of people that were property at one point but stood together and overcame tremendous obstacles, gain your rights and freedoms, and to get where you are today. Or the group of people that almost an entire race despises because of what you're ancestors did.

What's worse is a clueless guy who thinks that an entire race hates him and his people. It's not all about you.

/Seriously, is there anything whinier than somebody who loves to play the victim card like you're doing?


I didn't say entire, I said "almost". And yah, the victim card does sound whiny. However, I don't know about you but, I'm pretty tired of the NAACP and Sharpton jumping on everything and anyone that could even be remotely determined as racist.
 
2012-02-20 08:04:52 PM

zippolight2002: I didn't say entire, I said "almost". And yah, the victim card does sound whiny. However, I don't know about you but, I'm pretty tired of the NAACP and Sharpton jumping on everything and anyone that could even be remotely determined as racist.


Right, by doing the same thing. Impressive logic, chief. I can see that you're quite the intellectual giant.
 
2012-02-20 08:06:23 PM

RexTalionis: zippolight2002: RexTalionis: zippolight2002: The definition hasn't changed over time like it should. As far as I'm concerned that word is reserved for those people that progress the black stereotype.

Sorry, you don't get to be your own lexicographer. This ain't the USPTO.

So then why does "chink in the armor" automatically throw out the actual definition of chink simply because it was used to describe someone's flaws who just so happened to also be asian? If you want to go by the book that's fine, but you can't have it both ways. .

Because words have multiple meanings, unlike your situation, where you'd prefer to substitute your own definition for the commonly-accepted one.

That's not too fine a distinction, is it?


I didn't know "chink in the armor"'s commonly-accepted definition was that of a racial defamation.
 
2012-02-20 08:07:21 PM

zippolight2002: RexTalionis: zippolight2002: RexTalionis: zippolight2002: The definition hasn't changed over time like it should. As far as I'm concerned that word is reserved for those people that progress the black stereotype.

Sorry, you don't get to be your own lexicographer. This ain't the USPTO.

So then why does "chink in the armor" automatically throw out the actual definition of chink simply because it was used to describe someone's flaws who just so happened to also be asian? If you want to go by the book that's fine, but you can't have it both ways. .

Because words have multiple meanings, unlike your situation, where you'd prefer to substitute your own definition for the commonly-accepted one.

That's not too fine a distinction, is it?

I didn't know "chink in the armor"'s commonly-accepted definition was that of a racial defamation.


It's almost as if phrases are unitary entities onto themselves, rather than also being comprised of words.
 
2012-02-20 08:08:41 PM

RexTalionis: zippolight2002: I didn't say entire, I said "almost". And yah, the victim card does sound whiny. However, I don't know about you but, I'm pretty tired of the NAACP and Sharpton jumping on everything and anyone that could even be remotely determined as racist.

Right, by doing the same thing. Impressive logic, chief. I can see that you're quite the intellectual giant.


What exactly am I doing that mimics the NAACP and Sharpton?
 
2012-02-20 08:09:38 PM

RexTalionis: zippolight2002: RexTalionis: zippolight2002: RexTalionis: zippolight2002: The definition hasn't changed over time like it should. As far as I'm concerned that word is reserved for those people that progress the black stereotype.

Sorry, you don't get to be your own lexicographer. This ain't the USPTO.

So then why does "chink in the armor" automatically throw out the actual definition of chink simply because it was used to describe someone's flaws who just so happened to also be asian? If you want to go by the book that's fine, but you can't have it both ways. .

Because words have multiple meanings, unlike your situation, where you'd prefer to substitute your own definition for the commonly-accepted one.

That's not too fine a distinction, is it?

I didn't know "chink in the armor"'s commonly-accepted definition was that of a racial defamation.

It's almost as if phrases are unitary entities onto themselves, rather than also being comprised of words.


Who knew that words meanings change with context? Holy shiat.
 
2012-02-20 08:09:51 PM

zippolight2002: RexTalionis: zippolight2002: I didn't say entire, I said "almost". And yah, the victim card does sound whiny. However, I don't know about you but, I'm pretty tired of the NAACP and Sharpton jumping on everything and anyone that could even be remotely determined as racist.

Right, by doing the same thing. Impressive logic, chief. I can see that you're quite the intellectual giant.

What exactly am I doing that mimics the NAACP and Sharpton?


zippolight2002: Or the group of people that almost an entire race despises because of what you're ancestors did.

 
2012-02-20 08:10:49 PM

RexTalionis: zippolight2002: RexTalionis: zippolight2002: I didn't say entire, I said "almost". And yah, the victim card does sound whiny. However, I don't know about you but, I'm pretty tired of the NAACP and Sharpton jumping on everything and anyone that could even be remotely determined as racist.

Right, by doing the same thing. Impressive logic, chief. I can see that you're quite the intellectual giant.

What exactly am I doing that mimics the NAACP and Sharpton?

zippolight2002: Or the group of people that almost an entire race despises because of what you're ancestors did.


Hmm.. well played sir. Should a chosen my words better.
 
2012-02-20 08:11:20 PM

zippolight2002: Who knew that words meanings change with context? Holy shiat.


Good job. Now that we got you to accept that word meanings change with context, doesn't using those words while you're talking about an Asian guy constitute "context"?
 
2012-02-20 08:14:15 PM

Twice Banned: McDougal: I lost my racism rule book. If we are not Asian, are we allowed to have an opinion on this topic?

tricycleracer: Drew apparently has a problem with it since that word get filterpwned no matter the context.

What piece of script would you use?


The one that differentiates between the spelling of the racial slur (which is never appropriate) and the word that means stingy or miserly.

The slur is spelled with an "e," the word that means stingy or miserly is spelled with an "a."

They are homophones and do not both mean "nubian." One has a justifiable use within the English language, one has no justifiable use outside of literature.
 
2012-02-20 08:14:34 PM

RexTalionis: zippolight2002: Who knew that words meanings change with context? Holy shiat.

Good job. Now that we got you to accept that word meanings change with context, doesn't using those words while you're talking about an Asian guy constitute "context"?


Doesn't using those words, which have been a completely acceptable phrase that's been used forever, with the writing having absolutely no history of racism also constitute "context"?
 
2012-02-20 08:15:48 PM

zippolight2002: RexTalionis: zippolight2002: Who knew that words meanings change with context? Holy shiat.

Good job. Now that we got you to accept that word meanings change with context, doesn't using those words while you're talking about an Asian guy constitute "context"?

Doesn't using those words, which have been a completely acceptable phrase that's been used forever, with the writer having absolutely no history of racism also constitute "context"?


FTFM
 
2012-02-20 08:20:22 PM

zippolight2002: RexTalionis: zippolight2002: Who knew that words meanings change with context? Holy shiat.

Good job. Now that we got you to accept that word meanings change with context, doesn't using those words while you're talking about an Asian guy constitute "context"?

Doesn't using those words, which have been a completely acceptable phrase that's been used forever, with the writing having absolutely no history of racism also constitute "context"?


If I say "hoe," which is a completely acceptable word that's been used forever, then that's one context.

If I say the same word while pointing at a trashily-dressed woman, then it's an insult.

Ain't context fun?
 
2012-02-20 08:20:35 PM

lecavalier: Meanwhile, he isn't even Chinese.


He's Hakka?
 
2012-02-20 08:20:46 PM

Aigoo: Twice Banned: McDougal: I lost my racism rule book. If we are not Asian, are we allowed to have an opinion on this topic?

tricycleracer: Drew apparently has a problem with it since that word get filterpwned no matter the context.

What piece of script would you use?

The one that differentiates between the spelling of the racial slur (which is never appropriate) and the word that means stingy or miserly.

The slur is spelled with an "e," the word that means stingy or miserly is spelled with an "a."

They are homophones and do not both mean "nubian." One has a justifiable use within the English language, one has no justifiable use outside of literature.


I like you suddenly. However, the whole time I read yer script, I kept saying the words in my mind, both the historical and the mean, and I kept wanting to say them out loud for their lyrical madness. Old habits die hard, no?

Haters gotta learn new language, yo.

Let's teach them, friend.

;)

;)
 
2012-02-20 08:21:40 PM

Indubitably: Aigoo: Twice Banned: McDougal: I lost my racism rule book. If we are not Asian, are we allowed to have an opinion on this topic?

tricycleracer: Drew apparently has a problem with it since that word get filterpwned no matter the context.

What piece of script would you use?

The one that differentiates between the spelling of the racial slur (which is never appropriate) and the word that means stingy or miserly.

The slur is spelled with an "e," the word that means stingy or miserly is spelled with an "a."

They are homophones and do not both mean "nubian." One has a justifiable use within the English language, one has no justifiable use outside of literature.

I like you suddenly. However, the whole time I read yer script, I kept saying the words in my mind, both the historical and the mean, and I kept wanting to say them out loud for their lyrical madness. Old habits die hard, no?

Haters gotta learn new language, yo.

Let's teach them, friend.

;)

;)


Here we go again.
 
2012-02-20 08:22:14 PM

RexTalionis: zippolight2002: RexTalionis: zippolight2002: Who knew that words meanings change with context? Holy shiat.

Good job. Now that we got you to accept that word meanings change with context, doesn't using those words while you're talking about an Asian guy constitute "context"?

Doesn't using those words, which have been a completely acceptable phrase that's been used forever, with the writing having absolutely no history of racism also constitute "context"?

If I say "hoe," which is a completely acceptable word that's been used forever, then that's one context.

If I say the same word while pointing at a trashily-dressed woman, then it's an insult.

Ain't context fun?


But there is absolutely no other definition that would fit that situation. So the intent AND context is obvious.
 
2012-02-20 08:31:49 PM

colon_pow: nicoffeine: If you don't get that the word "chink," when talking about a person of Chinese(or even east-asian) descent, might have some sort of overtones, you're godamned idiot who deserves to lose their job.

We need more people like you around to tell us what words we can use and how to use them.


Once again: if you don't understand that certain words have certain common connotations that might offend others -- whether you actually intend it to be offensive or not -- then you're foolish and don't have sufficient command or understanding of language to be writing articles or headlines. Nobody is telling you what words you can or can't use, they're pointing out that you're displaying ignorance of what those words mean or imply. Words don't get to mean whatever you want them to, language is built by consensus.
 
2012-02-20 08:35:21 PM

Nemo's Brother: HoityToity: Class act.

Tebow of the NBA.

He has more class and common sense than the uber liberal PC police. This 'outraged' was caused because of the mind set shared by the Total-Fark Hivemind


YOU NAILED IT. /\
 
2012-02-20 08:36:18 PM
There is no context for the n-word that means anything other than a racial slur.

Chink as a radial slur is very rare compared to chink's normal meaning. And I don't ever recall it being used as a slur in conjunction with armor. Heck I don't think have heard chink being used as a slur in many years. There are far more common terms used by prejudiced creeps.

There are still plenty of racists in our society -- far more than many are willing to admit. But this headline is worthless as evidence of racism. Just as racists are still common, there are also those too quick to yell "racism" on the most flimsy of evidence.
 
2012-02-20 08:40:29 PM

FireZs: Look at all the white people in this thread being butthurt over potentially losing the last race they can racially abuse, and then thanking Lin for what they think is giving them permission to use chink as much as they want, and post racist image macros in any fark thread about asians.


Wrong, the only race that can be made fun of without fear is Caucasian.
 
2012-02-20 08:40:55 PM

LivefromGA: Nemo's Brother: HoityToity: Class act.

Tebow of the NBA.

He has more class and common sense than the uber liberal PC police. This 'outraged' was caused because of the mind set shared by the Total-Fark Hivemind

YOU NAILED IT. /\


Here's my fav for the eons: religion points a finger at others re: "Hivemind"...

*cough-cough*

Seriously?

Choke on mind, yo.

;)
 
2012-02-20 08:44:02 PM

Rude Turnip: nicoffeine: Rude Turnip: rebelyell2006: Mose: Xcott: Of course it's not racist. Why would a racist get a job writing sports headlines? Every sports story is about minorities completely dominating white men in every conceivable athletic endeavor.

It would be like a tea partier getting a job writing for Mother Jones magazine.

Hockey?

Are Slavs really 'white people'?

As someone of slavic descent, I would say the answer is no. Racial categories are arbitrary social constructs. Based upon portrayals of so-called white people in mainstream media, including both visual and print media, I would limit the category generally to people of western European descent (French, German, English, Scandinavians, etc.).

You're mistaking ethnicity with race. Is Estonia in Northern or Western Europe?

For the record, I don't really care where anyone*, or their ancestors, come from, it's all so stupid to me.

/*I don't know what it is about the San Joaquin valley, but I really haven't met anyone from there I can tolerate for more than five minutes at a time.

My point is that those ethnic groups are portrayed as "white" in the popular media. I think the whole thing is silly, but it's just a curious observation I've made over time.


That's because those ethnic groups are white. Slavs, Berbers (for the most part), semitic peoples, etc....
 
2012-02-20 08:46:33 PM

redmid17: Rude Turnip: nicoffeine: Rude Turnip: rebelyell2006: Mose: Xcott: Of course it's not racist. Why would a racist get a job writing sports headlines? Every sports story is about minorities completely dominating white men in every conceivable athletic endeavor.

It would be like a tea partier getting a job writing for Mother Jones magazine.

Hockey?

Are Slavs really 'white people'?

As someone of slavic descent, I would say the answer is no. Racial categories are arbitrary social constructs. Based upon portrayals of so-called white people in mainstream media, including both visual and print media, I would limit the category generally to people of western European descent (French, German, English, Scandinavians, etc.).

You're mistaking ethnicity with race. Is Estonia in Northern or Western Europe?

For the record, I don't really care where anyone*, or their ancestors, come from, it's all so stupid to me.

/*I don't know what it is about the San Joaquin valley, but I really haven't met anyone from there I can tolerate for more than five minutes at a time.

My point is that those ethnic groups are portrayed as "white" in the popular media. I think the whole thing is silly, but it's just a curious observation I've made over time.

That's because those ethnic groups are white. Slavs, Berbers (for the most part), semitic peoples, etc....


Melanin is melanin, man.

Culture is another entity entirely...

Heh.

;)
 
2012-02-20 08:47:00 PM

lilplatinum: zippolight2002: So....if a black person grew up in a successful home and now is a multi-millionare, I can call him the "n" word? He's got more opportunities than the majority of white people in this country at that point.

I'm pretty sure a black rich kid faces more racial discrimination in his life than some white trash trailer park kid.


Hilarious.
 
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