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(LA Times)   Jeremy Lin forgives racist ESPN headline, suggests it wasn't even intentional   (latimes.com) divider line 375
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2012-02-20 02:44:52 PM  

Fade2black: Because Asians take the high road and make racism beneath them. While black people and white guilt liberals love to play the victim card instead.
I figured we already knew this?


THIS
 
2012-02-20 02:45:03 PM  

meanmutton: GoodyearPimp: I must be missing something. "Chink in the armor" has nothing to do with race.

When it's posted under the picture of an Asian American? Really?


Remember these are the same type of people who don't think it is racist to make a comment about Obama eating fried chicken and watermelon and drinking 40's, even though it is a very common and old racist stereotype of black people, because all people eat fried chicken and watermelon and drink 40's in college.
 
2012-02-20 02:45:06 PM  

rkiller1: He knew what he was doing? Really? Ladies and gentlemen, we've found a mind-reader.


If this guy didn't know what he was doing, he's too farking stupid to work in media. Either way, adios.
 
2012-02-20 02:45:28 PM  

vudukungfu: I had a guy teaching a class I had to take who has CP.


Why didn't you call the police?
 
2012-02-20 02:45:47 PM  
i don't get it. Basketball players don't wear anything resembling armor.
 
2012-02-20 02:45:54 PM  

Crewmannumber6: What a douche! Has he no righteous LIN-dignation?


FTFY.
 
2012-02-20 02:46:26 PM  

tricycleracer: If this guy didn't know what he was doing, he's too farking stupid to work in media.


When he said he didn't know that word was an ethnic slur against the Chinese to begin with, I knew we was being trolled.....
 
2012-02-20 02:47:48 PM  
Goodness, the trolls and idiots are out in force tonight.

You can use the phrase "chink in the armour" to represent a weakness in something that is otherwise strong and not be accused of racism if (and I want to make this perfectly clear) and ONLY IF you are not also using it to allude to a person of Chinese ancestry.

Similarly you can use the headline "Faggots prepared for Christmas" in a story about wood-gathering in the local farming community, but eyebrows would be raised if you used that headline in a story relating to the only gay farmers in the area collecting bundles of kindling.

Context is everything.
 
2012-02-20 02:48:33 PM  

brigid_fitch: Forgot_my_password_again: I don't get it, chink in the armor has been around for centuries in a non-racist way.

bunch of pussies getting their sandy vaginas panties in a wad.

I know this is a troll but ESPN could have easily gone with the non-racially toned "Achilles' Heel" headline and not change the meaning. There's no way in hell NOBODY saw that headline and didn't think, "Umm, should we be going with 'Chink'?"


And offend the Greeks? No way. See liberals, this is what happens when you show the power of overplaying race in any minor statement an opponent makes.
 
2012-02-20 02:48:46 PM  
I use to work with this asian kid once, he was very cool and he worked with a lot of other asians. One day, he said, 'i'm t.g. around here, you know what t.g. is?" I go, 'no', and he says, 'top gook.' The other asians around him started laughing. I wasn't sure how to take it, but everybody from time to time makes fun of their own race.
 
2012-02-20 02:48:48 PM  
Yellow journalism.
 
2012-02-20 02:49:38 PM  

nopokerface: tricycleracer: If this guy didn't know what he was doing, he's too farking stupid to work in media.

When he said he didn't know that word was an ethnic slur against the Chinese to begin with, I knew we was being trolled.....


If the writer was a 20 year old intern and wrote the headline "Nipped in the Bud" about a Japanese player, I might believe he didn't know it was inappropriate since "nip" is pretty old-school. "Chink" isn't very obscure.
 
2012-02-20 02:50:12 PM  

ha-ha-guy: It does kind of open the question of at what point would be say "Hey the younger generation doesn't even know it was racist, maybe it was used without malice or realization of the term.".


The best possible illustration of this phenomenon is in Grand Torino when Clint calls some black kids "spooks". They have a general sense that they should be pissed off, but have never actually heard the term.

lin-ky (new window)

tons of high quality confusing racism in this one.
 
2012-02-20 02:50:32 PM  

tricycleracer: If the writer was a 20 year old intern and wrote the headline "Nipped in the Bud" about a Japanese player, I might believe he didn't know it was inappropriate since "nip" is pretty old-school. "Chink" isn't very obscure.


Exactly. The real sad part about this is just how stupid journalists believe the public to be.
 
2012-02-20 02:50:51 PM  
Kobe nubianrd in 4th - takes final 11 shots in loss to the Spurs.

/film at 11
 
2012-02-20 02:51:28 PM  

Fade2black: Because Asians take the high road and make racism beneath them. While black people and white guilt liberals love to play the victim card instead.

I figured we already knew this?


It has nothing to do with white guilt, liberals, or any other idiocy you farking retard.

It has to do with a company firing an idiotic employee. Regardless of how unjust you think it is, some words in certain context offend segments of the populace and for most companies it is usually intelligent to avoid alienating your consumer.

Seriously, why is it so hard for right wing derpers to understand this basic free market principle? I guess, like Christians, they like to spout off about how truly oppressed they are...
 
2012-02-20 02:51:35 PM  
Newsflash for the clueless and/or trolls: CONTEXT can make certain otherwise innocuous words/phrases racist.
 
2012-02-20 02:52:27 PM  
Chink in the armor - not racist

Using the term chink in the armor while referring to someone who is Chinese (or just Asian) - not racist

Using the term chink in the armor BECAUSE someone is Chinese (or just Asian) - yeah, that's racist.

Remember, this is a sportswriter. These people get a hard-on for puns and double entendres. Let's not pretend the guy accidentally stumbled on to it. So while the term itself is not racist, deliberately evoking the double meaning of the word is most definitely racist.
 
2012-02-20 02:52:51 PM  

calbert: he really should open his eyes to how racist that was.


I see what you did there.

/Eyes wide open, cause I'm white.
 
2012-02-20 02:53:11 PM  
What a nubianrdly response.

/Anyone remember the furor over that?
 
2012-02-20 02:53:28 PM  

brigid_fitch: Forgot_my_password_again: I don't get it, chink in the armor has been around for centuries in a non-racist way.

bunch of pussies getting their sandy vaginas panties in a wad.

I know this is a troll but ESPN could have easily gone with the non-racially toned "Achilles' Heel" headline and not change the meaning. There's no way in hell NOBODY saw that headline and didn't think, "Umm, should we be going with 'Chink'?"


I hate over application of political correctness, and I am going to have to agree with you on this one. It was a poor decision.
 
2012-02-20 02:53:51 PM  

fireclown: The best possible illustration of this phenomenon is in Grand Torino when Clint calls some black kids "spooks"


Yeah, I didn't get that....and neither does the BBC:

Link (new window)

Having said that, in Grosse Point Blank I'm sure that they mention "two spooks and a ghoul" to refer to two secret agents and an assassin, so presumably "spook" is relatively acceptable in the US?
 
2012-02-20 02:53:57 PM  
It's FRIED RICE, you PLICK ;)
 
2012-02-20 02:54:11 PM  

numbone: Yellow journalism.


ohyou.jpg
 
2012-02-20 02:54:16 PM  

nopokerface: Exactly. The real sad part about this is just how stupid journalists believe the public to be.


This is all down to the age-old sports journalism crutch of spouting out hackneyed cliches at every opportunity. They are damn near worse than country music with their incessant and poorly-crafted puns.
 
2012-02-20 02:55:15 PM  

nopokerface: tricycleracer: If the writer was a 20 year old intern and wrote the headline "Nipped in the Bud" about a Japanese player, I might believe he didn't know it was inappropriate since "nip" is pretty old-school. "Chink" isn't very obscure.

Exactly. The real sad part about this is just how stupid journalists believe the public to be.


I don't know...don't we spend a lot of time around here commenting on how stupid journalists are? I'm having an easier time thinking that either a) the journalist honestly didn't know it was racist, or b) thought it was just "funny" and didn't think anyone would take it so seriously.

I don't really believe for a second it was some kind of evil racist slur he tried to slip past us all nyah-hah-hah.
 
2012-02-20 02:55:25 PM  

Pert: fireclown: The best possible illustration of this phenomenon is in Grand Torino when Clint calls some black kids "spooks"

Yeah, I didn't get that....and neither does the BBC:

Link (new window)

Having said that, in Grosse Point Blank I'm sure that they mention "two spooks and a ghoul" to refer to two secret agents and an assassin, so presumably "spook" is relatively acceptable in the US?


Once again it is context. Spooks can either be slang for government agents (although that is kinda dated) or a racist term for black people (also kind of dated by hardly obscure).
 
2012-02-20 02:56:35 PM  
If ESPN was comfortable with this particular slant on the story, then they were headed down a slippery slope. It's good that they nipped this in the bud before they end up with egg or something other kind of gook on their faces.
 
2012-02-20 02:56:50 PM  

Gyrfalcon: I don't really believe for a second it was some kind of evil racist slur he tried to slip past us all nyah-hah-hah.


I think you are very likely right with (b), and that still makes him a dick. It's just not an acceptable avenue for humor.
 
2012-02-20 02:57:11 PM  

lecavalier: Meanwhile, he isn't even Chinese.


Details, details.
Actual facts are no solution to perceptual butthurt.

Racism is like farts, he who felt it is the racist.

/or something like that, Georgie, help me out here
 
2012-02-20 02:57:22 PM  
SUPPLIES!
 
2012-02-20 02:57:30 PM  
The comments section of the article is much more interesting than the actual article.

The one about ebonics is especially funny.
 
2012-02-20 02:57:48 PM  

tricycleracer: rkiller1: He knew what he was doing? Really? Ladies and gentlemen, we've found a mind-reader.

If this guy didn't know what he was doing, he's too farking stupid to work in media. Either way, adios.


QFT. And yet the concept of "too stupid to work in media" is terrifying, because that is a *low* bar.
 
2012-02-20 02:58:19 PM  

Fade2black: Because Asians take the high road and make racism beneath them. While black people and white guilt liberals love to play the victim card instead.

I figured we already knew this?


So one Asian person blows it off and all Asians "take the high road and make racism beneath them"? I know plenty of Asians that were pissed off at this and get pissed off when people make racist remarks about them thinking that because they are Asian they won't do or say anything about it. But use Lin choosing to ignore this as just another way for you to take a swipe at black people, even though we all know you are not racist.
 
2012-02-20 02:58:58 PM  

Fade2black: Because Asians take the high road and make racism beneath them. While black people and white guilt liberals love to play the victim card instead.

I figured we already knew this?


Hey, stop stereotyping Asians like that! There are plenty of racist Asians!
 
2012-02-20 02:59:15 PM  

nopokerface: tricycleracer: If the writer was a 20 year old intern and wrote the headline "Nipped in the Bud" about a Japanese player, I might believe he didn't know it was inappropriate since "nip" is pretty old-school. "Chink" isn't very obscure.

Exactly. The real sad part about this is just how stupid journalists believe the public to be.


Can you blame them?
 
2012-02-20 02:59:32 PM  
Does anyone remember when Shaq uttered gibberish Chinese about Yao Ming? I believe nothing became of it and it was no big deal. People are just too sensitive.
 
2012-02-20 02:59:32 PM  

brigid_fitch: I know this is a troll but ESPN could have easily gone with the non-racially toned "Achilles' Heel" headline and not change the meaning.


I get it, the acceptance of racism against Greeks is part of the bailout agreement.
 
2012-02-20 02:59:37 PM  

Braindeath: Some people's hobby is looking for things to be offended by. My hobby is porn in case anyone was wondering.


I don't now how that could be offensive, but if you find anything that offends me, please to hook a brother up.
 
2012-02-20 02:59:48 PM  
gothamist.com
 
2012-02-20 02:59:53 PM  
I don't know... Yeah, 'chink in armor' is a phrase that has been around a long time, and yes, 'chink' is obviously a racial slur, but I can totally and completely understand this being a simple mistake. I think ESPN overreacted. I don't consider this 'PC getting out of control' like some people do. Racism has no place in a civilized society, so I can at least understand the concern. ESPN should have just addressed this differently.
 
2012-02-20 02:59:56 PM  

Fade2black: Because Asians take the high road and make racism beneath them


You know how I know you have never been to Asia?
 
2012-02-20 02:59:57 PM  
Subby Jeremy Lin forgives racist ESPN headline, suggests it wasn't even Lintentional

Fixed that for you subby/hack sports writers.
 
2012-02-20 03:00:09 PM  
I think it was intentional AND hillarious. Does that make me racist?
 
2012-02-20 03:00:24 PM  

fireclown: ha-ha-guy: It does kind of open the question of at what point would be say "Hey the younger generation doesn't even know it was racist, maybe it was used without malice or realization of the term.".

The best possible illustration of this phenomenon is in Grand Torino when Clint calls some black kids "spooks". They have a general sense that they should be pissed off, but have never actually heard the term.

lin-ky (new window)

tons of high quality confusing racism in this one.


That's also basically the plot of Philip Roth's "The Human Stain". 70-year old professor refers to two perennially-absent black kids as "spooks". Unemployedarity ensues.
 
2012-02-20 03:00:31 PM  
We have to be careful. We can't let one questionable phrase pass through and then jump on the next. Next thing we know, we're sliding down a slippery attractive and well-lubricated Asian-American.
 
2012-02-20 03:00:36 PM  

rebelyell2006: ...some people would see racism in it.


Some people see racism in everything.
 
2012-02-20 03:01:07 PM  

Mikey1969: I don't know... Yeah, 'chink in armor' is a phrase that has been around a long time, and yes, 'chink' is obviously a racial slur, but I can totally and completely understand this being a simple mistake. I think ESPN overreacted. I don't consider this 'PC getting out of control' like some people do. Racism has no place in a civilized society, so I can at least understand the concern. ESPN should have just addressed this differently.


Why, do you think there are so few journalists in the world that retarded ones shouldn't be fired?
 
2012-02-20 03:01:09 PM  
The ESPN headline writer has got to be a Farker.
 
2012-02-20 03:01:15 PM  

GoodyearPimp: I must be missing something. "Chink in the armor" has nothing to do with race.


But the people who freaked out thought that they were using 'Chink' as a double meaning thing. As I said in my post, I can understand why people got upset, but I can also see this as being a completely innocent mistake.
 
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